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=====Feodra 13 Alpha slip by one week=====
=====Fedora 13 Alpha slip by one week=====
[[User:Jkeating|Jesse Keating]] announced<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-February/000581.html</ref> on the basis of the announcement<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-February/000580.html</ref>, "Today at the go / no-go meeting<ref>http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-25/fedora-meeting.2010-02-25-18.59.log.html</ref> we decided to slip the Alpha by one week.  This slip is needed to verify blocker bug fixes and validate new builds of software necessary to fix those bugs.  We are confident that the fixes we have are valid, however we do not have enough time to prove them valid.  We will spend the next few days doing that validation.  In the mean time builds will continue to be pushed to updates-testing for 13, and even to 13 stable, however critical path packages might not be pushed unless they are fixing a release blocking issue.  Once we've validated all the fixes we will do more frequent pushes to 13 stable.
[[User:Jkeating|Jesse Keating]] announced<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-February/000581.html</ref> on the basis of the announcement<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-February/000580.html</ref>, "Today at the go / no-go meeting<ref>http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-25/fedora-meeting.2010-02-25-18.59.log.html</ref> we decided to slip the Alpha by one week.  This slip is needed to verify blocker bug fixes and validate new builds of software necessary to fix those bugs.  We are confident that the fixes we have are valid, however we do not have enough time to prove them valid.  We will spend the next few days doing that validation.  In the mean time builds will continue to be pushed to updates-testing for 13, and even to 13 stable, however critical path packages might not be pushed unless they are fixing a release blocking issue.  Once we've validated all the fixes we will do more frequent pushes to 13 stable.
At this time we are not adjusting later milestone dates, as with no frozen rawhide we are not taking away any developer time."   
At this time we are not adjusting later milestone dates, as with no frozen rawhide we are not taking away any developer time."   
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=====Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting: 2010-03-04 @ 01:00 UTC Recap=====
=====Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting: 2010-03-04 @ 01:00 UTC Recap=====
[[/User:Jlaska|James Laska]] announced<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-March/000585.html</ref> the meeting summary, "Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to review determine whether the Fedora 13 Alpha release criteria<ref>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria</ref> have been met.  The team agreed that the Alpha criteria have been met, and to proceed with releasing F-13-Alpha-RC4.  For additional details, please refer to the attached minutes.
[[User:Jlaska|James Laska]] announced<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-March/000585.html</ref> the meeting summary, "Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to review determine whether the Fedora 13 Alpha release criteria<ref>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria</ref> have been met.  The team agreed that the Alpha criteria have been met, and to proceed with releasing F-13-Alpha-RC4.  For additional details, please refer to the attached minutes.


* '''fedora-meeting: F-13-Alpha engineering readiness meeting'''
* '''fedora-meeting: F-13-Alpha engineering readiness meeting'''

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Fedora Weekly News Issue 216

Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 216[1] for the week ending March 1, 2010. What follows are some highlights from this issue.

In Announcements, we have several development items, including changes for packaging guidelines, a call for F13 translation packages rebuilds, and news on Fedora 13 Alpha RC4 decisions from last week. In news from the Fedora Planet, thoughts on UX collaboration between conferences, how to set up client and server certificates for use with Apache Qpid, and perspectives on why the IIPA's position toward Open Source is problematic and wrong. In Marketing news, an update on last week's Fedora Insight sprint, work on a Communication Matrix for the Marketing team, and detail on the past weekly meeting activities, including decisioning the F13 slogan -- "Rock It!" In Ambassador news, an event report from Dhaka, and updates on the Campus Ambassador program. In Quality Assurance news, next week's Test Day focus on webcams, lots of tasty detail from QA Team weekly meetings, and a new tool, fedora-easy-karma, which greatly asssists in the process of filing feedback on packages in updates-testing via Bodhi. Translation reviews the upcoming Fedora 13 tasks in that area, updates on the Transifex 0.80 upgrade, and new members in the Fedora Localization Project for the Russian, Traditional Chinese and Greek teams. This week's issue closes with security advisory updates from the past week for Fedora 11, 12 and 13. Read on!

We're also pleased to note the availability of Fedora Audio Weekly News (FAWN), an audio version in Ogg Vorbis format for a few past FWN issues that one of our contributors has begun. Find it on the Internet Archive[2] and have a listen!

If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[3]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list@redhat.com

FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson

Announcements

In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project, including general announcements[1], development announcements[2] and Events[3].

Contributing Writer: Rashadul Islam

Fedora Announcement News

There were no announcements on the announce@lists.fedoraproject.org last week aside from FWN 215 availability.

Fedora Development News

[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines 04/09 - 02/10

Tom "spot" Callaway announced[1] the changes to the Packaging Guidelines 04/09 - 02/10. He said, "It has been almost a year since we announced changes to the Packaging Guidelines, so this will be a long list. In the future, we'll try to be more timely in writing up changes and announcing them to the Fedora Community.

Here are the list of changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: When selecting which source to download from upstream and use in a Fedora package, the smallest available (and Fedora compatible) source should be used:[2]

The Fortran Packaging Guidelines have been updated: [3]

The Ant Sample Spec in the Java Packaging Guidelines has been corrected:[4]

The R Packaging Guidelines have been updated:[5]

The Scrollkeeper scriptlets were removed from the Packaging Guidelines:[6]

The Python Packaging Guidelines were significantly rewritten including changes to address:

  • Python 3
  • PyGTK2 and Numpy

[7]

Dos2unix is no longer forbidden when removing DOS line breaks in a file:[8]

The Packaging Guidelines now contain a lengthy explanation of why Bundled Libraries are not permitted in Fedora: [9]

The Packaging Guideline section on dealing with pre-built libraries has been improved:[10]

Fedora packages no longer need to explicitly define a BuildRoot, as RPM now always defines one:[11]

The Fedora Packaging Guidelines now contain more information on how to deal with Conflicting Files in scenarios involving "common names": [12]

There are now Packaging Guidelines for Wordpress Plugins:[13]

There are now Packaging Guidelines for Globus Toolkit components: [14]

Since RPM now detects pkgconfig dependencies in all Fedora releases, it is no longer necessary for Fedora packages with .pc files to explicitly Require: pkgconfig :[15]

Fedora packages should contain man pages for all included binaries and scripts, and if not present, Fedora packagers should work with upstream to add them: [16]

There are now Packaging Guidelines for MPI packages: [17]

There are now Packaging Guidelines for proper usage of Environment Modules: [18]

There are now Packaging Guidelines for proper usage of Alternatives: [19]

The Packaging Guidelines now have a section covering how to properly handle filtering of Automatic Provides and Requires:[20]

The GConf scriptlets have been rewritten to use macros (and be much simpler): [21]

The Guidelines concerning RPath have been clarified:[22]

The Guidelines concerning File and Directory ownership have been clarified:[23]

The Emacs Packaging Guidelines have been changed:[24]

The PHP Packaging Guidelines have been changed:[25]

The Fedora Packaging Guidelines now contain a section on dealing with Buildtime Macros in Source RPMS: [26]

A clarification note has been added to the SourceURL section, reminding Fedora packagers to use "downloads.sourceforge.net": [27]

These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo.

Many thanks to Pierre-Yves Chibon, Remi Collet, Mattias Ellert, Adam Jackson, Jussi Lehtola, David Malcolm, Till Maas, Bill Nottingham, Orcan Ogetbil, Rahul Sundaram, Alexey Torkhov, Jonathan Underwood, Ivana Varekova, Ian Weller, Chris Weyl and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines.

As a reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here:[28]

  1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-March/000584.html
  2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/SourceURL#Referencing_Source
  3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Fortran
  4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Java
  5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R
  6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Scrollkeeper
  7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python
  8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Rpmlint_Errors
  9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries
  10. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#No_inclusion_of_pre-built_binaries_or_libraries
  11. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRoot_tag
  12. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts#Conflicting_Files
  13. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:WordPress_plugin_packaging_guidelines
  14. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Globus
  15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingGuidelines#Pkgconfig_Files
  16. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Man_pages
  17. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:MPI
  18. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:EnvironmentModules
  19. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives
  20. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:AutoProvidesAndRequiresFiltering
  21. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#GConf
  22. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Beware_of_Rpath
  23. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#File_and_Directory_Ownership
  24. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs
  25. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:PHP
  26. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Source_RPM_Buildtime_Macros
  27. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL#Sourceforge.net
  28. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure

Build F13 collection packages for all language translators

Noriko Mizumoto announced[1] to the Fedora package maintainers, "This is kind reminder asking you to rebuild your package with latest translation. Localization team has been translating for updated and/or newly added strings since the String is frozen (2010-02-09). To allow translators to review and correct their latest translation in UI, this is essential. This is different from 'Rebuild all translated packages for Beta', this is added entry since Fedora 12[2].

"Build F-13 collection packages for all language translators" is expected between 2010-03-03 to 2010-03-05. Please make sure your build is completed by 2010-03-05, so that a live image to be composed on 2010-03-05.

The packages to be built are:

  • ABRT » master
  • anaconda » master
  • audit-viewer » tip
  • authconfig » tip
  • chkconfig » master
  • comps » HEAD
  • desktop-backgrounds » HEAD
  • desktop-effects » master
  • firstboot » master
  • im-chooser » trunk
  • initscripts » master
  • iok » trunk
  • kexec-tools » HEAD
  • libuser » tip
  • liveusb-creator » master
  • mlocate » tip
  • multimedia-menus » master
  • newt » master
  • passwd » tip
  • policycoreutils » HEAD
  • pykickstart » master
  • python-meh » master
  • readahead » master
  • redhat-menus » HEAD
  • setroubleshoot » tip-framework
  • setroubleshoot » tip-plugins
  • setuptool » master
  • smolt » master
  • smolt » master-smoon
  • sos » trunk
  • switchdesk » HEAD
  • system-config-audit » tip
  • system-config-bind » tip
  • system-config-boot » master
  • system-config-date » master-docs
  • system-config-date » master
  • system-config-date » master-timezones
  • system-config-display » master
  • system-config-firewall » master
  • system-config-httpd » tip
  • system-config-kdump » new
  • system-config-keyboard » trunk
  • system-config-kickstart » master
  • system-config-language » trunk
  • system-config-lvm » master
  • system-config-netboot » trunk
  • system-config-network » master
  • system-config-nfs » master
  • system-config-nfs » master-docs
  • system-config-printer » master
  • system-config-rootpassword » trunk
  • system-config-samba » master
  • system-config-samba » master-docs
  • system-config-services » master
  • system-config-services » master-docs
  • system-config-users » master
  • system-config-users » master-docs
  • system-switch-java » tip
  • system-switch-mail » HEAD
  • usermode » tip"

Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting

Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting RESCHEDULED: 2010-02-25 at 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST)

Adam Williamson announced as an important note[1], "...we are rescheduling the Go/No-Go meeting for Fedora 13 Alpha. Previously scheduled for 2010-02-25 01:00 UTC, it is now scheduled for 2010-02-25 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST, 11:00 PST). This delay is to give sufficient time for the QA team to test the expected RC3 build.

The original announcement, with the new time, is reproduced below for reference.

Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Thursday, February 25, 2010 @ 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST).

"Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting."

"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team."

For more details about this important meeting see: [2]"

Fedora 13 Alpha slip by one week

Jesse Keating announced[1] on the basis of the announcement[2], "Today at the go / no-go meeting[3] we decided to slip the Alpha by one week. This slip is needed to verify blocker bug fixes and validate new builds of software necessary to fix those bugs. We are confident that the fixes we have are valid, however we do not have enough time to prove them valid. We will spend the next few days doing that validation. In the mean time builds will continue to be pushed to updates-testing for 13, and even to 13 stable, however critical path packages might not be pushed unless they are fixing a release blocking issue. Once we've validated all the fixes we will do more frequent pushes to 13 stable. At this time we are not adjusting later milestone dates, as with no frozen rawhide we are not taking away any developer time."

Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting: 2010-03-04 @ 01:00 UTC (2010-03-03 @ 20:00 EST)

Adam Williamson announced[1], "Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. This is Thursday, March 4, 2010 @ 01:00 UTC, which makes it WEDNESDAY EVENING in North America: 20:00 EST, 17:00 PST.

"Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting."

"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team."

For more details about this important meeting see:[2]"

Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting: 2010-03-04 @ 01:00 UTC Recap

James Laska announced[1] the meeting summary, "Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to review determine whether the Fedora 13 Alpha release criteria[2] have been met. The team agreed that the Alpha criteria have been met, and to proceed with releasing F-13-Alpha-RC4. For additional details, please refer to the attached minutes.

  • fedora-meeting: F-13-Alpha engineering readiness meeting

Meeting started by jlaska at 01:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at [3].

Meeting summary

  • Waiting for critical mass . (jlaska, 01:00:25)
  • adamw representing QA (jlaska, 01:03:02)
  • Oxf13 representing Rel-Eng (jlaska, 01:03:07)
  • Oxf13 wearing the notting mask, representing Devel (jlaska,01:03:21)

Why are we here? (jlaska, 01:03:44)

  • The purpose is to decide whether the alpha has met the release criteria (jlaska, 01:03:49)
  • LINK:[4](jlaska, 01:03:54)

Go or No Go? (jlaska, 01:04:57)

  • all desktop and install validation tests for alpha point have been run (jlaska, 01:08:36)
  • only bug blocking alpha is [5] - we have decided it's okay as it has a usable workaround, so we should take it off the list (jlaska, 01:08:52)
  • ACTION: Decided that bug#567346 can be removed from F13Alpha(jlaska, 01:13:10)
  • LINK: [6](jlaska, 01:15:09)
  • IDEA: should KDE Live image be respun to address kpackagekit issue?(jlaska, 01:16:44)
  • source DVD is 5.0G (Oxf13, 01:20:49)
  • IDEA: need to determine how to handle source ISO's for F-13-Final(jlaska, 01:24:01)
  • ACTION: several remaining CommonBugs? needing documentation(jlaska, 01:25:15)
  • AGREED: QA + Rel-Eng + Devel* agreed to proceed with releasing F-13-Alpha-RC4 as the Alpha (jlaska, 01:26:09)

What's next? (jlaska, 01:26:38)

  • ACTION: adamw + jlaska to document remaining CommonBugs? issues(jlaska, 01:28:44)
  • LINK: [7] (Oxf13, 01:32:06)
  • ACTION: jlaska - send out the meeting minutes to devel-announce@test-announce@ and logistics@ (jlaska, 01:33:34)
  • expect to be fully staged for mirrors by tomorrow (Oxf13, 01:34:16)

Open Discussion (jlaska, 01:34:45)

Meeting ended at 01:36:45 UTC.

Action Items

  • Decided that bug#567346 can be removed from F13Alpha
  • several remaining CommonBugs? needing documentation
  • adamw + jlaska to document remaining CommonBugs? issues
  • jlaska - send out the meeting minutes to devel-announce@test-announce@ and logistics@

Action Items, by person

  • adamw
 * adamw + jlaska to document remaining CommonBugs? issues
  • jlaska
 * adamw + jlaska to document remaining CommonBugs? issues
 * jlaska - send out the meeting minutes to devel-announce@
   test-announce@ and logistics@
  • **UNASSIGNED**
 * Decided that bug#567346 can be removed from F13Alpha
 * several remaining CommonBugs? needing documentation

People Present (lines said)

  • jlaska (67)
  • Oxf13 (41)
  • adamw (32)
  • juhp (10)
  • poelcat (6)
  • rhe (4)
  • zodbot (4)
  • skvidal (2)

Fedora Events

Fedora events are the source of marketing, learning and meeting all the fellow community people around you. So, please mark your agenda with the following events to consider attending or volunteering near you!

Upcoming Events (March 2010 to May 2010)

  • North America (NA)[1]
  • Central & South America (LATAM) [2]
  • Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3]
  • India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4]

Past Events

Archive of Past Fedora Events[1]

Additional information

  • Reimbursements -- reimbursement guidelines.
  • Budget -- budget for the current quarter (as distributed by FAMSCo).
  • Sponsorship -- how decisions are made to subsidize travel by community members.
  • Organization -- event organization, budget information, and regional responsibility.
  • Event reports -- guidelines and suggestions.
  • LinuxEvents -- a collection of calendars of Linux events.


Planet Fedora

In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. This edition covers highlights from the past three weeks.

Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin

General

Máirín Duffy asked[1] for a pony but really it was about "how us designers could continue to collaborate after the (London UX) hackfest was over. This has been a recurring issue, as us designers meet every year or so, at GUADEC, at UX hackfests, or at GNOME Boston Summits (or even other FLOSS events like LinuxTag) and we get some great collaborate work done during the events – but it peters off after we get settled in back home after the events." One other post from the hackfest was about a presentation[2] on an icon usability study.

Matthias Clasen created[3] a new dialog for setting a user's password, including visual password strength indicator widget.

Rajith Attapattu wrote[4] about how to set up client and server certificates for use with Apache Qpid.

Richard W.M. Jones benchmarked[5] ext2, ext3 and ext4 with and without LVM. Richard also cataloged[6] all 267 commands that Guestfish now supports. And lastly, Richard introduced[7] "Tech Talk Platinum Supreme Edition!" a new super-simple presentation software application.

Michael Tiemann explained[8] why the IIPA's position toward Open Source is problematic and wrong. "The entire position taken by IIPA is unbalanced. It relies on outdated definitions, special interests and a fear of innovation and new business model opportunities. It blends them together to abuse an outdated mechanism of the US government with a condemnation that applies to the US itself."

Jeroen van Meeuwen experimented[9] with rebuilding all of Enterprise Linus, including updates and Extras "in order to learn from it and take away a couple of notes on the subject". Find out what Jeroen learned.

For anyone interested in making UserDirs (i.e. ~username) work properly in Apache with SELinux enabled, Diego Búrigo Zacarão has [10] your solution.

Marketing

In this section, we cover the happenings for Fedora Marketing Project from 2010-02-27 to 2010-03-05.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing

Contributing Writer: Neville A. Cross

One the most important things that happened on Marketing this week was the Fedora Insight Sprint that took place on February, 28th. As reported[1] by Pascal Calarco there where advances in several areas and some interactive testing. This test included uploading some of beats from Fedora Weekly News to Fedora Insight. Congratulations for all those contributed in this sprint.

Nelson Marques started a document called Comunication Matrix[2] which surely will help us at Marketing in many ways.

On March, 2nd, Marketing held its weekly meeting. You can see the log[3] but the highlight was the slogan for Fedora 13. Later on the slogan was released by Nelson Marques[4] so let's “Rock it!

There was brought up the issue about promoting spins, and Paul Frields made clear that errors were made[5], but we are moving forward and future talking points will include spins[6].

All in all a busy week.

Ambassadors

In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project[1].

Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero

Fedora release party in Dhaka

Rejaul Islam reports on an event Asian University, Dhaka (Uttara Campus), which became a release party for Fedora 12 last month.

Details can be found here: http://maktrix.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/asian-university-dhaka-fedora-12-release-party/

Campus Ambassadors up and running

The Fedora Project's Campus Ambassadors program is up and running, and is looking for participants. If you're a high school or college student who wants to help promote Fedora on your campus, this is the place for you.

For more information, visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors

Fedora 12 is here

With Fedora 12 Constantine now here, this is a reminder that posting an announcement of your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events -- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well.


QualityAssurance

In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1].

Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson

Test Days

Last week's planned Test Day on the use of SSSD by default[1] unfortunately had to be postponed. The new date will be announced in FWN when it is decided.

Next week's Test Day[2] will be on webcams. Well, that's simple! We like webcams. We want them to work. If your webcam works, we would like to know this so we can celebrate and bask in the warm, contented glow. If your webcam does not work, this makes us very sad and we would like to make it work. So, if you have a webcam, please come along, run a few simple tests, and if it doesn't work, we'll do our best to change that! Testing will be very easy and you'll be able to use a live CD or an installed Fedora system to test. The Test Day will run all day on Thursday 2010-03-11 in the #fedora-test-day IRC channel.

If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for the Fedora 13 cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[3].

Weekly meetings

The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2010-03-01. The full logs are available[2]. Adam Miller reported back on his proposal for managing membership of the QA group in FAS. He had created a draft proposal[3] and started a mailing list thread[4] on the topic. James Laska thanked him for his work. Edward Kirk wondered about the mentoring proposal, asking if mentors were already lined up. Adam said that was not yet arranged. He thought that any existing member of the group could be a potential mentor, and new members could be handled on a case-by-case basis. James asked if some groups document mentor responsibilities; Adam replied that he was not sure. They agreed to revisit the topic next week after further follow-up discussion on the mailing list.

James Laska reported that he and Adam Miller had forgotten to contact the sectool team regarding the security spin QA proposal, but would do so immediately following the meeting.

James Laska noted that the fourth Alpha release candidate build was now available for testing, and linked to the test matrices[5] [6]. Adam Miller said he would try to run the desktop tests for Xfce. The group discussed the two potential blocker bugs that testing had so far uncovered, an update installation issue #567346[7] and a traditional CD installer disc swapping issue #569377[8]. They agreed that testing should continue to isolate the conditions that would trigger 567346, and that 569377 should be moved to blocking the Beta. The group also discussed two dependency issues Kamil Paral had noticed during installation validation but had not yet nominated as blockers, and agreed they did not need to block the release as they did not affect the packages on the physical media.

James Laska reviewed a topic from the Bugzappers group, where a decision had been taken to rebase open Rawhide bugs to Fedora 13.

Will Woods and Kamil Paral gave an update on the AutoQA project. Will noted that he had sent some proposed development guidelines to the mailing list, emphasizing the use of git and suggesting small patches be submitted to the list using git-send-email. He also suggesting creating personal branches in the main public repository for anyone wanting to work on large changes. The plan had been broadly accepted, and Will planned to codify it on the AutoQA wiki soon. Will reported no progress on the dependency checker test this week, as he had been working on other things. He recapped that a working depcheck script was already available[9] and just needed some basic testing, but the next step was to work out exactly what the test subjects should be: testing individual updates is not useful, rather some way to discover which group of updates will be pushed as a set is needed so that the set can be tested. He would work on this and report back to the next meeting. Kamil reported that the group had held another design discussion[10] for the planned results database, and he was working on some use cases which would be available[11] later. Josef Skladanka had provided a draft visualization[12] of the system. James Laska noted Liam Li's progress on automated DVD installation[13], using dogtail to pass kernel parameters into the installation. He was also looking into having the automated installation set up the necessary environment for subsequent automated GUI testing.

Kamil Paral asked how a serious bug in an accepted feature[14] should be considered in regard to the release criteria. James Laska did not have a definitive answer, but for now recommended documenting it as a common bug.

No Bugzappers group weekly meeting was held on 2010-03-02 as there were no items needing discussion.

The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2010-03-08 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting. The next Bugzappers weekly meeting will be held (if necessary) on 2010-03-09 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.

Fedora 13 Alpha

Adam Williamson represented QA at the Alpha go/no-go meeting[1] held on 2010-03-04 and also attended by release engineering and development representatives. The group agreed that Alpha RC4 passed the release criteria[2] and could be released as Fedora 13 Alpha.

Fedora 12 update problems

Matthias Clasen started a discussion[1] about the known PackageKit bug[2] which has caused some Fedora 12 users to have problems attempting to do the first post-install update with PackageKit, asking what could be done to ensure the problem did not occur in Fedora 13. Adam Williamson tried to explain[3] that it was currently difficult to absolutely protect against this type of problem, as there is a catch-22 involved: if PackageKit has a bug which prevents update installation working for some reason, shipping an update for PackageKit cannot resolve the problem as it will be impossible to install the update. Matthias explained[4] that he was in this case considering the symptom rather than the cause, and was asking if potential updates could be tested in batches via AutoQA before being released.

yum-langpack Test Day recap

Rui He posted a recap[1] of the 2010-02-25 yum-langpack Test Day[2], thanking those who had attended and listing the bugs that had been uncovered by the testing. Jens Petersen thanked her[3] for her work on the event.

Updates-testing karma reporting script - fedora-easy-karma

Till Maas announced[1] his new tool fedora-easy-karma[2], which greatly asssists in the process of filing feedback on packages in updates-testing via Bodhi[3]. Many group members thanked Till for the script and reported success in using it. Adam Williamson documented the tool on the QA Tools wiki page[4] and the page on updates-testing[5]. Some testers reported bugs in the script, which Till promptly addressed. Till also noted[6] that he had built a package for the script and filed a review request[7] to have it added to the repositories.

Translation

This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project[1].

Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee

Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks for Translations

In addition to the Final software translation period (including translation and review) that ends on March 23rd 2010), new tasks related to translation would be on track are on schedule for the upcoming week. These include translation of beta release notes (11th March-5th April 2010), coordination with fedora-devel requesting for new builds of all packages that have been translated (16th March-23rd March 2010)[1].

Transifex v 0.8 Release and translate.fp.org Upgrade

FLSCo chair and Transifex developer Dimitris Glezos announced[1] the release of Transifex v.0.8, code named Magneto. This release includes new features like Translation Teams, Translation Reviews, Timeline, advanced Notifications features, Subversion over https etc.

In response to a query regarding the upgradation of the transifex version in use on translate.fedoraproject.org, Dimitris suggested[2] a direct upgrade to v. 0.8 instead of v. 0.7.4 which has been staged and is being tested currently . However, Paul W. Frields voiced his concern[3] that this move may hinder the current upgrade process that is expected to solve most of the reported problems faced by the translation team. This was supported by FLSCo member Noriko Mizumoto[4]. Piotr Drag[5] pointed that the 'Translation Team' feature in v.0.8 is currently not implementable in for transifex instance to be used in translate.fedoraproject.org.

Paul Frields, also suggested that the bugs reported against the staged instance be collected and the blocker bugs be marked to help the Fedora Infrastructure team take decisions for the actual productization[6]. Currently, Fedora Infrastructure is on a freeze for the Fedora 13 Alpha release.

Translated String Missing from gnome-packagekit

In response to a query posted[1] by Danish translator Kris Thomsen about the location of the string 'Add/Remove Software' (System => Administration => Add/Remove Software from the main panel), Domingo Becker pointed out[2] that although the the translation for this string existed in the gnome-packagekit package (hosted in the GNOME repositories), the translated version is not being used on the User Interface. Ville-Pekka Vainio informed[3] that this problem was most likely being caused due to an error in the gnome-packagekit build process, due to which the respective .desktop file is being improperly generated. This has been filed as a bug earlier and has been discussed with the package maintainer Richard Hughes. Currently, the error persists in the development version.

New Members in FLP

Dmitry Drozdov (Russian)[1], Cheng-Chia Tseng (Traditional Chinese)[2], Illias Romanos (Greek)[3] joined the Fedora Localization Project recently.

Security Advisories

In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce.

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce

Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco

Fedora 13 Security Advisories

Fedora 12 Security Advisories

Fedora 11 Security Advisories