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= Attendees =
= Attendees =
* jlaska (110)
* j_dulaney (25)
* tflink (14)
* athmane (8)
* nphilipp (7)
* zodbot (6)
* nirik (3)
* kparal (3)
* jsmith (2)
* jskladan (1)
* mbouffard (1)
* mkrizek (1)
* robatino (1)
* pschindl (1)


= Agenda =
= Agenda =
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-July/101455.html Proposed meeting agenda]
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-July/101571.html Proposed meeting agenda]
* [http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-25/fedora-qa.2011-07-25-14.59.html MeetBot summary]
* [http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-01/fedora-qa-meeting.2011-08-01-15.10.html MeetBot summary]


== Previous meeting follow-up ==
== Previous meeting follow-up ==
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== F16 Alpha status ==
== F16 Alpha status ==
* Release engineering reported that tree composes were failing due to two OPEN bugs
** 726743 - MODIFIED - gnome-python2-bonobo has missing deps
** 726744 - NEW - at-spi-python has broken deps
* Jlaska noted that halfline volunteered to look into the at-spi-python bug, and he recommends unblocking pyorbit to resolve the compose dependency problem.
* Follow tree compose progress at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4844


== Upcoming QA events ==
== Upcoming QA events ==
* 2011-07-21 - [[Test_Results:Fedora_16_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_3:Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 - images available, testing in progress by twu]]
* 2011-07-21 - [[Test_Results:Fedora_16_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_3|Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 - images available, testing in progress by twu]]
* 2011-07-26 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' - DELAYED
* 2011-07-26 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' - DELAYED
* 2011-07-29 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f16alpha) #3
* 2011-07-29 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f16alpha) #3
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== Next meeting ==
== Next meeting ==
* 2011-08-08 - 15:00 UTC chaired by _____?
* 2011-08-08 - 15:00 UTC chaired by tflink (thank you!)


= Open Discussion - <your topic here> =
= Open Discussion - <your topic here> =
== AutoQA staging hardware status ==
* tflink asked if there were any updates on the AutoQA staging hardware that isn't responding (qa08.qa.fedoraproject.org).  Nirik noted a support ticket was filed, and he would follow-up shortly.


= Action Items =
= Action Items =
# tflink - send Cloud SIG test day announcements
# jlaska - announce blocker review meeting #4


= IRC Log =
= IRC Log =
{|
|- id="t15:10:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting fedora-qa-meeting
|| [[#t15:10:57|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:57"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Aug  1 15:10:57 2011 UTC.  The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t15:10:57|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:57"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t15:10:57|15:10]]
|- id="t15:11:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa-meeting
|| [[#t15:11:02|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:02"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa-meeting'
|| [[#t15:11:02|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Roll Call
|| [[#t15:11:08|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:16"
| colspan="2" | * kparal present
|| [[#t15:11:16|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:17"
| colspan="2" | * tflink present
|| [[#t15:11:17|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:18"
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek is present
|| [[#t15:11:18|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:21"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney waves from his flying unicorn
|| [[#t15:11:21|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, raise your hand if you are here ... don't raise it if not here
|| [[#t15:11:21|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:23"
| colspan="2" | * athmane is here
|| [[#t15:11:23|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:26"
| colspan="2" | * robatino present
|| [[#t15:11:26|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:39"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t15:11:39|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:49"
| colspan="2" | * jsmith lurks
|| [[#t15:11:49|15:11]]
|- id="t15:12:09"
| colspan="2" | * mbouffard here
|| [[#t15:12:09|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Hello all, thanks for your patience waiting for #startmeeting
|| [[#t15:12:24|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | who are we missing?
|| [[#t15:12:31|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice, jskladan?
|| [[#t15:12:46|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | iirc, adamw may be off today (public holiday)
|| [[#t15:12:55|15:12]]
|- id="t15:13:03"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan is here
|| [[#t15:13:03|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | hey there
|| [[#t15:13:06|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, let's get started ... we have a light agenda so far, so this _may_ be quick
|| [[#t15:13:20|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Previous meeting follow-up
|| [[#t15:13:29|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info j_dulaney - Filing bugs for s-c-* desktop application duplicate names
|| [[#t15:13:42|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: does this still need to be completed, are we still tracking this change?
|| [[#t15:13:58|15:13]]
|- id="t15:14:14"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Bug 727204
|| [[#t15:14:14|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:20"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | .Bug 727204
|| [[#t15:14:20|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:26"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Or was it
|| [[#t15:14:26|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:29"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | @Bug 727204
|| [[#t15:14:29|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | There we go
|| [[#t15:14:38|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | are all the affected packages owned by the same maintainer?
|| [[#t15:14:57|15:14]]
|- id="t15:15:14"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | I believe so
|| [[#t15:15:14|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry if we already discussed, my memory is fuzzy on this ... did we already decide which s-c-* packages needed changes?
|| [[#t15:15:36|15:15]]
|- id="t15:16:20"
| colspan="2" | * jlaska just making sure that nphilipp knows how to proceed with this bug report
|| [[#t15:16:20|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:26"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska, j_dulaney: This would all be really easy if using Name and GenericName is supported in Gnome now. Is it?
|| [[#t15:16:26|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | hey nphilipp!
|| [[#t15:16:37|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:43"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska: Found you!
|| [[#t15:16:43|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:58"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska: was on vacation until the WE
|| [[#t15:16:58|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:58"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | nphilipp:  I think so, yes
|| [[#t15:16:58|15:16]]
|- id="t15:17:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | nphilipp: good question, I'm afraid I don't know ... if we don't have an answer in meeting here, perhaps that's worth a note to desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org
|| [[#t15:17:02|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info nphilipp asked whether Name and GenericName is now supported in GNOME.  j_dulaney indicated it is now supported.
|| [[#t15:17:52|15:17]]
|- id="t15:18:17"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | the reason why these tools have generic names as names is because desktop wanted it this way back in the days. I can easily rename them back if that's what's wanted, and use the GenericName tag for the generic names.
|| [[#t15:18:17|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | That may be the easiest way to handle this
|| [[#t15:18:38|15:18]]
|- id="t15:19:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | nphilipp: I'm not closely following this issue, but that seems like a good plan (and perhaps worth a heads up on desktop@ to avoid any surprises)
|| [[#t15:19:01|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | pong
|| [[#t15:19:20|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | moving on for now...
|| [[#t15:19:54|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info F15 EC2 images - tflink to confirm with rel-eng to see if 8/1 is a reasonable deadline
|| [[#t15:19:56|15:19]]
|- id="t15:20:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink and athmane have been most active in this area, anything either of you wanted to highlight?
|| [[#t15:20:13|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:14"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska, j_dulaney: well, according to https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/CorrectDesktopFiles I should be fine with just doing what we discussed above.
|| [[#t15:20:14|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | nphilipp: perfect!
|| [[#t15:20:21|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:26"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs
|| [[#t15:20:26|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:30"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-04_Cloud_SIG_Fedora_EC2
|| [[#t15:20:30|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs
|| [[#t15:20:41|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:46"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | hopefully, we'll have koji-created AMIs for F16
|| [[#t15:20:46|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:57"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Sweet
|| [[#t15:20:57|15:20]]
|- id="t15:21:02"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | jlaska: just checking, this is meant for F-15 onward?
|| [[#t15:21:02|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:11"
! style="background-color: #854685" | nphilipp
| style="color: #854685" | j_dulaney: ^^
|| [[#t15:21:11|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:20"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | I'll be sending out announcements for the test day today or tomorrow
|| [[#t15:21:20|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | nphilipp: certainly F16, I'm not clear on whether this is appropriate for f15
|| [[#t15:21:32|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: athmane: excellent, thanks for the updates
|| [[#t15:21:40|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | j_dulaney: Bug 727204 Make system-config-* progs that have naming conflicts with other packages not show up in Gnome - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727204
|| [[#t15:21:42|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info athmane to continue work on Ovirt Node validation testing and matrix; next meeting review if the spin makes the freeze deadline
|| [[#t15:21:59|15:21]]
|- id="t15:22:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | I believe this was ACK'd in last weeks meeting?
|| [[#t15:22:10|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:19"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | Ovirt not yet approved by SPIN SIG
|| [[#t15:22:19|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:31"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2011-July/002036.html
|| [[#t15:22:31|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:43"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2011-July/002037.html
|| [[#t15:22:43|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info athmane informed the group that Ovirt is not yet approved by SPIN SIG
|| [[#t15:22:59|15:22]]
|- id="t15:23:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | looks like some debate on the extent/scope of spin-kickstart changes allowed
|| [[#t15:23:33|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for the links athmane
|| [[#t15:23:40|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:53"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | So, the question now becomes will it be since Freeze has passed?
|| [[#t15:23:53|15:23]]
|- id="t15:24:14"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | And, if not, need we support official testing?
|| [[#t15:24:14|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | no, either way
|| [[#t15:24:26|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:33"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | maybe grant an exception
|| [[#t15:24:33|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | the SPIN is responsible for ensuring their spins are tested
|| [[#t15:24:36|15:24]]
|- id="t15:25:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | jlaksa:  Indeed
|| [[#t15:25:00|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | of course, we lend time in helping them structure the testing and doing it in a way consistent with our other plans
|| [[#t15:25:02|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | (thanks to athmane)
|| [[#t15:25:05|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, the only other item I had here was for announcing the blocker meeting last week ... thanks to tflink for that
|| [[#t15:25:29|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Cloud SIG - Fedora 15 on Amazon EC2
|| [[#t15:25:34|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Sounds like we may have updates on this topic already
|| [[#t15:25:48|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | but let's do a quick re-hash for the logs
|| [[#t15:25:56|15:25]]
|- id="t15:26:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs
|| [[#t15:26:08|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-04_Cloud_SIG_Fedora_EC2
|| [[#t15:26:12|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #action tflink - send Cloud SIG test day announcements
|| [[#t15:26:33|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else to discuss on this topic?
|| [[#t15:26:41|15:26]]
|- id="t15:27:02"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | I don't think so
|| [[#t15:27:02|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty ...
|| [[#t15:27:10|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:15"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | nothing I guess, everything was at cloud sig meeting
|| [[#t15:27:15|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for the updates gentlemen
|| [[#t15:27:21|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic F16 Alpha status
|| [[#t15:27:25|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html
|| [[#t15:27:35|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | There has been no Alpha TC1 compose as of yet
|| [[#t15:27:51|15:27]]
|- id="t15:28:12"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | When can one be expected?
|| [[#t15:28:12|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | if you want to follow the action, you can monitor the rel-eng ticket for TC1 compose progress - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4844
|| [[#t15:28:14|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: I have no ETA from rel-eng
|| [[#t15:28:23|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Based no feedback from the blocker meeting, I suspect once we have resolution on two deps problems ... the compose should move forward
|| [[#t15:28:46|15:28]]
|- id="t15:29:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | on of the issues is already in MODIFIED (gnome-python2-bonobo)
|| [[#t15:29:14|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 726743
|| [[#t15:29:18|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | jlaska: Bug 726743 gnome-python2-bonobo has missing deps - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726743
|| [[#t15:29:20|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the other compose blocking bug (726744), with help from halfline, may simply involve unblocking a package to allow the compose to proceed
|| [[#t15:29:49|15:29]]
|- id="t15:30:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | so I think we're just waiting on feedback from halfline's comment ... as far as I know
|| [[#t15:30:20|15:30]]
|- id="t15:31:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Since TC1 was expected last Tuesday, and RC1 is expected this Thursday ... if history is any indicator, I expect we'll likely slip the Alpha release due to late discovery of ALpha blockers, or insufficient test feedback in time for the go/no_go
|| [[#t15:31:11|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | it's entirely possible I'm overly skeptical, and when we do get a compose, things will "just work"
|| [[#t15:31:32|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:53"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jsmith
| style="color: #4b904b" | Anything is possible -- it's just software :-p
|| [[#t15:31:53|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | :)
|| [[#t15:31:56|15:31]]
|- id="t15:32:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | There are not a lot of changes to the blocker lists today - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
|| [[#t15:32:07|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | so that's the extent of my knowledge about the Alpha
|| [[#t15:32:48|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone have other updates to share?
|| [[#t15:32:53|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:55"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | I almost wonder if an extra week for Alpha should be added, since we slip by that much anyway
|| [[#t15:32:55|15:32]]
|- id="t15:33:01"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | But that's not for here
|| [[#t15:33:01|15:33]]
|- id="t15:33:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: it's a fair question, I've included this challenge in the QA retrospective for 2 releases now
|| [[#t15:33:35|15:33]]
|- id="t15:34:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | after discussion of RATs and the TC1 milestone, it sounds like adamw has an proposal brewing for adding additional TC milestones earlier in the cycle
|| [[#t15:34:08|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | but more on that from our favorite Canadian after the break
|| [[#t15:34:25|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:30"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | In this case, the bugs are ones that don't seem to be easily found by just running test composes since they block the compose process
|| [[#t15:34:30|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | right
|| [[#t15:34:39|15:34]]
|- id="t15:35:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Upcoming QA events
|| [[#t15:35:02|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Just a quick schedule reminder ...
|| [[#t15:35:07|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 2011-07-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 - images available, testing in progress by twu
|| [[#t15:35:22|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 2011-07-26 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' - DELAYED
|| [[#t15:35:27|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 2011-08-04 - Test Alpha Candidate Compose
|| [[#t15:35:37|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 2011-08-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f16alpha) #4
|| [[#t15:35:40|15:35]]
|- id="t15:36:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | Unless anyone is eager to announce the blocker meeting this week, I'll be glad to do that
|| [[#t15:36:23|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #action jlaska - announce blocker review meeting #4
|| [[#t15:36:40|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Next meeting
|| [[#t15:36:53|15:36]]
|- id="t15:37:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone want to volunteer to #chair this meeting next week?
|| [[#t15:37:15|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | c'mon, not all at once
|| [[#t15:37:43|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:46"
| colspan="2" | * tflink can do it
|| [[#t15:37:46|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:51"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | I could do it &gt;if needed&lt;
|| [[#t15:37:51|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | alright tflink ftw!
|| [[#t15:37:55|15:37]]
|- id="t15:38:01"
| colspan="2" | * jlaska anxious to spread it around
|| [[#t15:38:01|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:08"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | LOL
|| [[#t15:38:08|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't mind doing it at all ... I'm interested in some variety when it comes to meeting style etc...
|| [[#t15:38:28|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:45"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Oy
|| [[#t15:38:45|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: thank you ... gimme a holler if you want to punt back to me in case testing takes up too much time
|| [[#t15:38:47|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:48"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | athmane
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I can do it if it was 18:00
|| [[#t15:38:48|15:38]]
|- id="t15:39:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 2011-08-08 - 15:00 UTC - tflink volunteered to #chair
|| [[#t15:39:04|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks tflink!
|| [[#t15:39:11|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:12"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | jlaska: ok, shouldn't be a problem
|| [[#t15:39:12|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open Discussion - &lt;your topic here&gt;
|| [[#t15:39:17|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, I promised a brief agenda
|| [[#t15:39:25|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | any #topics folks would like to raise?
|| [[#t15:39:31|15:39]]
|- id="t15:40:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open discussion - AutoQA staging hardware
|| [[#t15:40:08|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: you were asking me before the meeting about qa08.qa.fedoraproject.org hardware status
|| [[#t15:40:22|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:31"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | yep
|| [[#t15:40:31|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | the last update I have was to check back in on Tuesday
|| [[#t15:40:41|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | iirc, nirik has a support ticket opened up
|| [[#t15:40:49|15:40]]
|- id="t15:41:05"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | nirik
| style="color: #4d4d93" | jlaska: yeah, sorry for delay. will try and find something out.
|| [[#t15:41:05|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | and smooge may be visiting the colo, or opening up a can of whoop_ss to figure that out, on Tuesday?
|| [[#t15:41:14|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: no worries, I'm just hoping it's not a hardware problem ... since we've yet to use that system
|| [[#t15:41:41|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | boooo! I  say to that :)
|| [[#t15:41:47|15:41]]
|- id="t15:42:11"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | well, at least we're not depending on that system yet :)
|| [[#t15:42:11|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | right
|| [[#t15:42:16|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | so when that system is available ... do we have a plan to proceed yet
|| [[#t15:42:38|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:41"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | nirik
| style="color: #4d4d93" | yeah, not sure what it's issue is. ;( We will get it fixed up.
|| [[#t15:42:41|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:48"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Where is it physically located?
|| [[#t15:42:48|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:55"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | phx, I assume
|| [[#t15:42:55|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | or should I just set it up to run autoqa straight from master?
|| [[#t15:42:56|15:42]]
|- id="t15:43:04"
| colspan="2" | * nirik nods. phx datacenter
|| [[#t15:43:04|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:17"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Indeed
|| [[#t15:43:17|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:22"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | I have some ideas but haven't finished writing up a proposal yet
|| [[#t15:43:22|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: okay
|| [[#t15:43:29|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:41"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | it would probably be good to just testing 0.6.0 on it for now
|| [[#t15:43:41|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Support ticket opened, nirik will continue investigating
|| [[#t15:43:44|15:43]]
|- id="t15:44:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: testing it manually, or packages I build into the -testing repos?
|| [[#t15:44:08|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:28"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | either way is fine with me
|| [[#t15:44:28|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, we can figure that out later then
|| [[#t15:44:41|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open Discussion - &lt;your topic here&gt;
|| [[#t15:44:50|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:52"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | We should have the mockup infranstructure ready to go shortly
|| [[#t15:44:52|15:44]]
|- id="t15:45:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | any other items to cover today?
|| [[#t15:45:04|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:18"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Magical ponies?
|| [[#t15:45:18|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | heh, are those back on the agenda?
|| [[#t15:45:35|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:42"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | j_dulaney: I didn't know you did much with Django :)
|| [[#t15:45:42|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, if nothing, I'll #endmeeting in 2 minutes
|| [[#t15:45:42|15:45]]
|- id="t15:46:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #818144" | Lulz
|| [[#t15:46:00|15:46]]
|- id="t15:46:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | 1 minute until #endmeeting
|| [[#t15:46:37|15:46]]
|- id="t15:46:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: nothing from Brno today?  you guys must be busy getting this next release out :)
|| [[#t15:46:56|15:46]]
|- id="t15:47:22"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | kparal
| style="color: #97974f" | I don't think we have any good update
|| [[#t15:47:22|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:28"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | kparal
| style="color: #97974f" | just finishing tickets
|| [[#t15:47:28|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | alright folks ... that's it for today
|| [[#t15:47:41|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | I'll follow-up with minutes to the list
|| [[#t15:47:48|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for your time!
|| [[#t15:47:51|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | jlaska
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t15:47:52|15:47]]
|}
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Attendees

  • jlaska (110)
  • j_dulaney (25)
  • tflink (14)
  • athmane (8)
  • nphilipp (7)
  • zodbot (6)
  • nirik (3)
  • kparal (3)
  • jsmith (2)
  • jskladan (1)
  • mbouffard (1)
  • mkrizek (1)
  • robatino (1)
  • pschindl (1)

Agenda

Previous meeting follow-up

  1. Filing bugs for s-c-* desktop application duplicate names - j_dulaney will get this done this week and not slack off again
  2. F15 EC2 images - tflink to confirm with rel-eng to see if 8/1 is a reasonable deadline
  3. athmane_work to continue work on Ovirt Node validation testing and matrix; next meeting review if the spin makes the freeze deadline
  4. tflink to announce blocker meeting #3

Cloud SIG - Fedora 15 on Amazon EC2

F16 Alpha status

  • Release engineering reported that tree composes were failing due to two OPEN bugs
    • 726743 - MODIFIED - gnome-python2-bonobo has missing deps
    • 726744 - NEW - at-spi-python has broken deps
  • Jlaska noted that halfline volunteered to look into the at-spi-python bug, and he recommends unblocking pyorbit to resolve the compose dependency problem.
  • Follow tree compose progress at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4844

Upcoming QA events

Next meeting

  • 2011-08-08 - 15:00 UTC chaired by tflink (thank you!)

Open Discussion - <your topic here>

AutoQA staging hardware status

  • tflink asked if there were any updates on the AutoQA staging hardware that isn't responding (qa08.qa.fedoraproject.org). Nirik noted a support ticket was filed, and he would follow-up shortly.

Action Items

  1. tflink - send Cloud SIG test day announcements
  2. jlaska - announce blocker review meeting #4

IRC Log

jlaska #startmeeting fedora-qa-meeting 15:10
zodbot Meeting started Mon Aug 1 15:10:57 2011 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:10
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:10
jlaska #meetingname fedora-qa-meeting 15:11
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa-meeting' 15:11
jlaska #topic Roll Call 15:11
* kparal present 15:11
* tflink present 15:11
* mkrizek is present 15:11
* j_dulaney waves from his flying unicorn 15:11
jlaska okay, raise your hand if you are here ... don't raise it if not here 15:11
* athmane is here 15:11
* robatino present 15:11
* pschindl is here 15:11
* jsmith lurks 15:11
* mbouffard here 15:12
jlaska Hello all, thanks for your patience waiting for #startmeeting 15:12
jlaska who are we missing? 15:12
jlaska Viking-Ice, jskladan? 15:12
jlaska iirc, adamw may be off today (public holiday) 15:12
* jskladan is here 15:13
jlaska hey there 15:13
jlaska okay, let's get started ... we have a light agenda so far, so this _may_ be quick 15:13
jlaska #topic Previous meeting follow-up 15:13
jlaska #info j_dulaney - Filing bugs for s-c-* desktop application duplicate names 15:13
jlaska j_dulaney: does this still need to be completed, are we still tracking this change? 15:13
j_dulaney Bug 727204 15:14
j_dulaney .Bug 727204 15:14
j_dulaney Or was it 15:14
j_dulaney @Bug 727204 15:14
j_dulaney There we go 15:14
jlaska are all the affected packages owned by the same maintainer? 15:14
j_dulaney I believe so 15:15
jlaska sorry if we already discussed, my memory is fuzzy on this ... did we already decide which s-c-* packages needed changes? 15:15
* jlaska just making sure that nphilipp knows how to proceed with this bug report 15:16
nphilipp jlaska, j_dulaney: This would all be really easy if using Name and GenericName is supported in Gnome now. Is it? 15:16
jlaska hey nphilipp! 15:16
nphilipp jlaska: Found you! 15:16
nphilipp jlaska: was on vacation until the WE 15:16
j_dulaney nphilipp: I think so, yes 15:16
jlaska nphilipp: good question, I'm afraid I don't know ... if we don't have an answer in meeting here, perhaps that's worth a note to desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org 15:17
jlaska #info nphilipp asked whether Name and GenericName is now supported in GNOME. j_dulaney indicated it is now supported. 15:17
nphilipp the reason why these tools have generic names as names is because desktop wanted it this way back in the days. I can easily rename them back if that's what's wanted, and use the GenericName tag for the generic names. 15:18
j_dulaney That may be the easiest way to handle this 15:18
jlaska nphilipp: I'm not closely following this issue, but that seems like a good plan (and perhaps worth a heads up on desktop@ to avoid any surprises) 15:19
zodbot pong 15:19
jlaska moving on for now... 15:19
jlaska #info F15 EC2 images - tflink to confirm with rel-eng to see if 8/1 is a reasonable deadline 15:19
jlaska tflink and athmane have been most active in this area, anything either of you wanted to highlight? 15:20
nphilipp jlaska, j_dulaney: well, according to https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/CorrectDesktopFiles I should be fine with just doing what we discussed above. 15:20
jlaska nphilipp: perfect! 15:20
tflink the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs 15:20
athmane #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-04_Cloud_SIG_Fedora_EC2 15:20
jlaska #info the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs 15:20
tflink hopefully, we'll have koji-created AMIs for F16 15:20
j_dulaney Sweet 15:20
nphilipp jlaska: just checking, this is meant for F-15 onward? 15:21
nphilipp j_dulaney: ^^ 15:21
tflink I'll be sending out announcements for the test day today or tomorrow 15:21
jlaska nphilipp: certainly F16, I'm not clear on whether this is appropriate for f15 15:21
jlaska tflink: athmane: excellent, thanks for the updates 15:21
zodbot j_dulaney: Bug 727204 Make system-config-* progs that have naming conflicts with other packages not show up in Gnome - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727204 15:21
jlaska #info athmane to continue work on Ovirt Node validation testing and matrix; next meeting review if the spin makes the freeze deadline 15:21
jlaska I believe this was ACK'd in last weeks meeting? 15:22
athmane Ovirt not yet approved by SPIN SIG 15:22
athmane #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2011-July/002036.html 15:22
athmane #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2011-July/002037.html 15:22
jlaska #info athmane informed the group that Ovirt is not yet approved by SPIN SIG 15:22
jlaska looks like some debate on the extent/scope of spin-kickstart changes allowed 15:23
jlaska thanks for the links athmane 15:23
j_dulaney So, the question now becomes will it be since Freeze has passed? 15:23
j_dulaney And, if not, need we support official testing? 15:24
jlaska no, either way 15:24
athmane maybe grant an exception 15:24
jlaska the SPIN is responsible for ensuring their spins are tested 15:24
j_dulaney jlaksa: Indeed 15:25
jlaska of course, we lend time in helping them structure the testing and doing it in a way consistent with our other plans 15:25
jlaska (thanks to athmane) 15:25
jlaska okay, the only other item I had here was for announcing the blocker meeting last week ... thanks to tflink for that 15:25
jlaska #topic Cloud SIG - Fedora 15 on Amazon EC2 15:25
jlaska Sounds like we may have updates on this topic already 15:25
jlaska but let's do a quick re-hash for the logs 15:25
jlaska #info the cloud sig decided to move forward with the F15 EC2 test day on 8/4 with the BG created AMIs 15:26
jlaska #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-04_Cloud_SIG_Fedora_EC2 15:26
jlaska #action tflink - send Cloud SIG test day announcements 15:26
jlaska anything else to discuss on this topic? 15:26
tflink I don't think so 15:27
jlaska alrighty ... 15:27
athmane nothing I guess, everything was at cloud sig meeting 15:27
jlaska thanks for the updates gentlemen 15:27
jlaska #topic F16 Alpha status 15:27
jlaska #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html 15:27
jlaska There has been no Alpha TC1 compose as of yet 15:27
j_dulaney When can one be expected? 15:28
jlaska if you want to follow the action, you can monitor the rel-eng ticket for TC1 compose progress - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4844 15:28
jlaska j_dulaney: I have no ETA from rel-eng 15:28
jlaska Based no feedback from the blocker meeting, I suspect once we have resolution on two deps problems ... the compose should move forward 15:28
jlaska on of the issues is already in MODIFIED (gnome-python2-bonobo) 15:29
jlaska .bug 726743 15:29
zodbot jlaska: Bug 726743 gnome-python2-bonobo has missing deps - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726743 15:29
jlaska #info the other compose blocking bug (726744), with help from halfline, may simply involve unblocking a package to allow the compose to proceed 15:29
jlaska so I think we're just waiting on feedback from halfline's comment ... as far as I know 15:30
jlaska #info Since TC1 was expected last Tuesday, and RC1 is expected this Thursday ... if history is any indicator, I expect we'll likely slip the Alpha release due to late discovery of ALpha blockers, or insufficient test feedback in time for the go/no_go 15:31
jlaska it's entirely possible I'm overly skeptical, and when we do get a compose, things will "just work" 15:31
jsmith Anything is possible -- it's just software :-p 15:31
jlaska :) 15:31
jlaska There are not a lot of changes to the blocker lists today - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers 15:32
jlaska so that's the extent of my knowledge about the Alpha 15:32
jlaska anyone have other updates to share? 15:32
j_dulaney I almost wonder if an extra week for Alpha should be added, since we slip by that much anyway 15:32
j_dulaney But that's not for here 15:33
jlaska j_dulaney: it's a fair question, I've included this challenge in the QA retrospective for 2 releases now 15:33
jlaska after discussion of RATs and the TC1 milestone, it sounds like adamw has an proposal brewing for adding additional TC milestones earlier in the cycle 15:34
jlaska but more on that from our favorite Canadian after the break 15:34
j_dulaney In this case, the bugs are ones that don't seem to be easily found by just running test composes since they block the compose process 15:34
jlaska right 15:34
jlaska #topic Upcoming QA events 15:35
jlaska Just a quick schedule reminder ... 15:35
jlaska #info 2011-07-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 - images available, testing in progress by twu 15:35
jlaska #info 2011-07-26 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' - DELAYED 15:35
jlaska #info 2011-08-04 - Test Alpha Candidate Compose 15:35
jlaska #info 2011-08-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f16alpha) #4 15:35
jlaska Unless anyone is eager to announce the blocker meeting this week, I'll be glad to do that 15:36
jlaska #action jlaska - announce blocker review meeting #4 15:36
jlaska #topic Next meeting 15:36
jlaska anyone want to volunteer to #chair this meeting next week? 15:37
jlaska c'mon, not all at once 15:37
* tflink can do it 15:37
j_dulaney I could do it >if needed< 15:37
jlaska alright tflink ftw! 15:37
* jlaska anxious to spread it around 15:38
j_dulaney LOL 15:38
jlaska I don't mind doing it at all ... I'm interested in some variety when it comes to meeting style etc... 15:38
j_dulaney Oy 15:38
jlaska tflink: thank you ... gimme a holler if you want to punt back to me in case testing takes up too much time 15:38
athmane I can do it if it was 18:00 15:38
jlaska #info 2011-08-08 - 15:00 UTC - tflink volunteered to #chair 15:39
jlaska thanks tflink! 15:39
tflink jlaska: ok, shouldn't be a problem 15:39
jlaska #topic Open Discussion - <your topic here> 15:39
jlaska okay, I promised a brief agenda 15:39
jlaska any #topics folks would like to raise? 15:39
jlaska #topic Open discussion - AutoQA staging hardware 15:40
jlaska tflink: you were asking me before the meeting about qa08.qa.fedoraproject.org hardware status 15:40
tflink yep 15:40
jlaska the last update I have was to check back in on Tuesday 15:40
jlaska iirc, nirik has a support ticket opened up 15:40
nirik jlaska: yeah, sorry for delay. will try and find something out. 15:41
jlaska and smooge may be visiting the colo, or opening up a can of whoop_ss to figure that out, on Tuesday? 15:41
jlaska nirik: no worries, I'm just hoping it's not a hardware problem ... since we've yet to use that system 15:41
jlaska boooo! I say to that :) 15:41
tflink well, at least we're not depending on that system yet :) 15:42
jlaska right 15:42
jlaska so when that system is available ... do we have a plan to proceed yet 15:42
nirik yeah, not sure what it's issue is. ;( We will get it fixed up. 15:42
j_dulaney Where is it physically located? 15:42
tflink phx, I assume 15:42
jlaska or should I just set it up to run autoqa straight from master? 15:42
* nirik nods. phx datacenter 15:43
j_dulaney Indeed 15:43
tflink I have some ideas but haven't finished writing up a proposal yet 15:43
jlaska tflink: okay 15:43
tflink it would probably be good to just testing 0.6.0 on it for now 15:43
jlaska #info Support ticket opened, nirik will continue investigating 15:43
jlaska tflink: testing it manually, or packages I build into the -testing repos? 15:44
tflink either way is fine with me 15:44
jlaska okay, we can figure that out later then 15:44
jlaska #topic Open Discussion - <your topic here> 15:44
j_dulaney We should have the mockup infranstructure ready to go shortly 15:44
jlaska any other items to cover today? 15:45
j_dulaney Magical ponies? 15:45
jlaska heh, are those back on the agenda? 15:45
tflink j_dulaney: I didn't know you did much with Django :) 15:45
jlaska okay, if nothing, I'll #endmeeting in 2 minutes 15:45
j_dulaney Lulz 15:46
jlaska 1 minute until #endmeeting 15:46
jlaska kparal: nothing from Brno today? you guys must be busy getting this next release out :) 15:46
kparal I don't think we have any good update 15:47
kparal just finishing tickets 15:47
jlaska alright folks ... that's it for today 15:47
jlaska I'll follow-up with minutes to the list 15:47
jlaska thanks for your time! 15:47
jlaska #endmeeting 15:47

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