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= Attendees =
= Attendees =
* adamw (88)
* kparal (21)
* j_dulaney (21)
* tflink (14)
* jskladan (10)
* brunowolff (8)
* zodbot (6)
* aalam (5)
* dgilmore (3)
* nirik (2)
* Cerlyn (1)
* pschindl (1)


= Agenda =
= Agenda =
* Previous meeting follow-up
* Fedora 17 Beta prep
* Fedora 17 Beta prep
* Upcoming QA events
* Upcoming QA events
* AutoQA update
* AutoQA update
* Open floor
* Open floor
== Previous meeting follow-up ==
* "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, most of the big hits are covered
* "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, please test
* "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - adam didn't get to that one yet
* "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - updates have started rolling again


== Fedora 17 Beta prep ==
== Fedora 17 Beta prep ==
* everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end


== Upcoming QA events ==
== Upcoming QA events ==
* First Test Days due this week - [[Test_Day:2012-03-07|i18n/l10n on 03-07]], [[Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day|OpenStack on 03-08]]
* Still looking for a volunteer to run Friday's blocker review


== AutoQA update ==
== AutoQA update ==
* resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week
* Depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master
* New autoqa release planned in a couple of days
* Some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer


== Open floor ==
== Open floor ==
N/A


== IRC Log ==
== IRC Log ==
{|
|- id="t16:00:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
|| [[#t16:00:06|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Mar  5 16:00:06 2012 UTC.  The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t16:00:06|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t16:00:06|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
|| [[#t16:00:13|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:13"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t16:00:13|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call
|| [[#t16:00:17|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal
|| [[#t16:00:41|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:41"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw kparal
|| [[#t16:00:41|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning folks, it's meeting time
|| [[#t16:00:56|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | who's around?
|| [[#t16:00:59|16:00]]
|- id="t16:01:14"
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff is here
|| [[#t16:01:14|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:20"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t16:01:20|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:27"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan is lurking today
|| [[#t16:01:27|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:37"
| colspan="2" | * tflink is present
|| [[#t16:01:37|16:01]]
|- id="t16:02:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair tflink
|| [[#t16:02:00|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:00"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink
|| [[#t16:02:00|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:01"
| colspan="2" | * kparal pops up
|| [[#t16:02:01|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:01"
| colspan="2" | * Cerlyn is here
|| [[#t16:02:01|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:09"
| colspan="2" | * adamw whacks kparal
|| [[#t16:02:09|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:13"
| colspan="2" | * nirik is lurking
|| [[#t16:02:13|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry....years of highly-trained mole reflexes
|| [[#t16:02:16|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:19"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | .smash adamw
|| [[#t16:02:19|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:26"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | damn, it never works for me
|| [[#t16:02:26|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:40"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | bot, where are you?
|| [[#t16:02:40|16:02]]
|- id="t16:03:06"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | zodbot: .fire zodbot
|| [[#t16:03:06|16:03]]
|- id="t16:03:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | aha! I am unsmashable
|| [[#t16:03:12|16:03]]
|- id="t16:03:19"
| colspan="2" | * adamw fires zodbot
|| [[#t16:03:19|16:03]]
|- id="t16:03:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | I think I'm in a blacklist
|| [[#t16:03:22|16:03]]
|- id="t16:04:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, let's get this crazy show on the road, kids
|| [[#t16:04:20|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:20"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | kparal: you have been fired too many times, I guess :))
|| [[#t16:04:20|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 17 Beta prep
|| [[#t16:04:33|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, uh, if i was any better at this job i'd probably have done some!
|| [[#t16:04:41|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:53"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is here
|| [[#t16:04:53|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, wait a sec
|| [[#t16:04:53|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #undo
|| [[#t16:04:56|16:04]]
|- id="t16:04:56"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Removing item from minutes: &lt;MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x1f930f50&gt;
|| [[#t16:04:56|16:04]]
|- id="t16:05:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic previous meeting follow-up
|| [[#t16:05:02|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | knew I was missing something.
|| [[#t16:05:06|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, i think it has most of the big hits
|| [[#t16:05:43|16:05]]
|- id="t16:06:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, hope people have been testing them
|| [[#t16:06:11|16:06]]
|- id="t16:06:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - didn't get to that one yet
|| [[#t16:06:46|16:06]]
|- id="t16:07:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - I guess you got that done, bruno
|| [[#t16:07:01|16:07]]
|- id="t16:08:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | BRUNO! don't quit on us, bruno!
|| [[#t16:08:15|16:08]]
|- id="t16:08:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | welp, f17 updates got moving again, anyway, so it seems like it happened.
|| [[#t16:08:54|16:08]]
|- id="t16:09:15"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | I am here
|| [[#t16:09:15|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | it's aliiiive
|| [[#t16:09:23|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, nirik - what happened with the ec2 image? do we have one now?
|| [[#t16:09:37|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:42"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | I am multi-tasking though not well.
|| [[#t16:09:42|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:52"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | nirik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | adamw: dunno. dgilmore was working on that.
|| [[#t16:09:52|16:09]]
|- id="t16:10:39"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: I think that we got one but I'm not sure that it worked
|| [[#t16:10:39|16:10]]
|- id="t16:10:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | brunowolff: preach it.
|| [[#t16:10:39|16:10]]
|- id="t16:10:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | what the hell is with people expecting stuff to work around here?
|| [[#t16:10:52|16:10]]
|- id="t16:11:05"
| colspan="2" | * tflink vaguely remembers something about failures for the EC2 image but could be wrong
|| [[#t16:11:05|16:11]]
|- id="t16:11:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | wah, wah, my image doesn't boot, wah, wah, the usb stick ran away with my wife, it's just whine whine whine with you people
|| [[#t16:11:31|16:11]]
|- id="t16:12:09"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: if your wife ran away with the USB stic ... I think you have other issues to deal with :)
|| [[#t16:12:09|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:25"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney thinks someone's about to be fired
|| [[#t16:12:25|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | heh
|| [[#t16:12:26|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:42"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | right, why don't people thank us for that?
|| [[#t16:12:42|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | weird
|| [[#t16:12:44|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:56"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | Bloody VMs
|| [[#t16:12:56|16:12]]
|- id="t16:13:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ookay then
|| [[#t16:13:12|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:15"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney continues the saga of creating VMs whilst drunk that don't work
|| [[#t16:13:15|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic fedora 17 beta prep
|| [[#t16:13:18|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: the problem is clearly that you're not drunk enough
|| [[#t16:13:26|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:39"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney isn't drunk at all right now
|| [[#t16:13:39|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:41"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | dgilmore
| style="color: #97974f" | adamw: no ec2 yet
|| [[#t16:13:41|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ah, okay
|| [[#t16:13:51|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:55"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | dgilmore
| style="color: #97974f" | adamw: i need to sit down and write some appliance-tools code
|| [[#t16:13:55|16:13]]
|- id="t16:14:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, it looks like we're still missing the raid and upgrade tests from alpha
|| [[#t16:14:02|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | those are the two likely hairy areas at beta
|| [[#t16:14:07|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i meant to get the raid tests done but never quite made it
|| [[#t16:14:14|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:35"
| colspan="2" | * tflink did iSCSI BFT and forgot to update the matrix
|| [[#t16:14:35|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:51"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | still haven't done the regular iSCSI test case yet
|| [[#t16:14:51|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | cool, thanks
|| [[#t16:14:52|16:14]]
|- id="t16:15:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so we can try and get some of those done today, but in theory we should have a beta TC1 tomorrow
|| [[#t16:15:17|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore: any idea if we're on track for that? any big compose-blocking issues you know of?
|| [[#t16:15:28|16:15]]
|- id="t16:16:09"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | I'll probably try to wait for the TC1 image before trying the iSCSI tests again - my test machine can't boot alpha and I've been using a custom image
|| [[#t16:16:09|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:15"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | dgilmore
| style="color: #97974f" | adamw: im not aware of anything
|| [[#t16:16:15|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | rats_install today fails at 'bootloader' so that's good, that's just the regular serial failure...it made it all the way through the ret
|| [[#t16:16:39|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | rest
|| [[#t16:16:40|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:52"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | We got a -1 for the pulseaudio update this morning, so that issue may not be resolved.
|| [[#t16:16:52|16:16]]
|- id="t16:17:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | brunowolff: erf. really? it's working here.
|| [[#t16:17:04|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:26"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | Well his case was boot to run level 3, so it might not be the same problem.
|| [[#t16:17:26|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:44"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | And it only was a report of the problem not being fixed, rather than worse.
|| [[#t16:17:44|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, seems like a bad -1.
|| [[#t16:17:53|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:54"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | sound works in runlevel 3?
|| [[#t16:17:54|16:17]]
|- id="t16:18:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: read https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751902
|| [[#t16:18:12|16:18]]
|- id="t16:18:15"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | So I plan to keeo the update as pending for stable. But we might need another update.
|| [[#t16:18:15|16:18]]
|- id="t16:18:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | brunowolff: from the bug it reads like there's no regression, that bug was reported for f16
|| [[#t16:18:41|16:18]]
|- id="t16:18:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so i'd say just push the update, it's not making anything worse
|| [[#t16:18:48|16:18]]
|- id="t16:19:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | and it's clearly making most things better
|| [[#t16:19:00|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:21"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | +1
|| [[#t16:19:21|16:19]]
|- id="t16:20:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, so, anyway, looks like we're basically on track for tc1 tomorrow
|| [[#t16:20:51|16:20]]
|- id="t16:21:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | and we'll just have to hope upgrades aren't borked too bad.
|| [[#t16:21:10|16:21]]
|- id="t16:21:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | if anyone wants to do some upgrade testing today, of course, go right ahead...
|| [[#t16:21:24|16:21]]
|- id="t16:22:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end
|| [[#t16:22:26|16:22]]
|- id="t16:22:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic upcoming QA events
|| [[#t16:22:33|16:22]]
|- id="t16:22:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so we have tc1 tomorrow as mentioned, and of course a blocker review friday
|| [[#t16:22:43|16:22]]
|- id="t16:23:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | but the big news i guess is the test day cycle kicking in finally - thursday is openstack test day
|| [[#t16:23:17|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:18"
| colspan="2" | * tflink is planning to send out an email to test@ asking for a volunteer to run friday's meeting
|| [[#t16:23:18|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | that's 2012-03-08
|| [[#t16:23:22|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, and wednesday is i18n/l10n test day, i see
|| [[#t16:23:42|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: cool, if no one steps up, i'll do it
|| [[#t16:23:52|16:23]]
|- id="t16:24:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info still looking for a volunteer to run friday's blocker review
|| [[#t16:24:02|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: everything looking good for the two test days? are their pages prepped and so on?
|| [[#t16:24:14|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:25"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | adamw:  Indeed
|| [[#t16:24:25|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:39"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | adamw:  I'll be dropping a blog post today about it
|| [[#t16:24:39|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:58"
! style="background-color: #488888" | brunowolff
| style="color: #488888" | I can't commit to that since work may intervene duiring the meeting. I expect to be at the meeting though.
|| [[#t16:24:58|16:24]]
|- id="t16:26:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: great, also test-announce posts &amp;c
|| [[#t16:26:59|16:26]]
|- id="t16:27:25"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | adamw:  Indeed
|| [[#t16:27:25|16:27]]
|- id="t16:27:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | how do we announce things in the cloud? planes with those jetstream trailer thingies? :)
|| [[#t16:27:33|16:27]]
|- id="t16:29:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway, yeah, those look nicely on track, of course the rest of us can blog about them and so on
|| [[#t16:29:01|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else on upcoming events before we move on?
|| [[#t16:29:07|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:19"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | aalam
| style="color: #9b519b" | adamw: j_dulaney: for l10n test day, it is 2012-03-07, but for i18n test day , i need 2012-03-14
|| [[#t16:29:19|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:25"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | aalam
| style="color: #9b519b" | Is it possible to do
|| [[#t16:29:25|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:29"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | aalam
| style="color: #9b519b" | before beta
|| [[#t16:29:29|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:46"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | aalam:  I see no problem with that
|| [[#t16:29:46|16:29]]
|- id="t16:29:59"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | aalam:  I'll ping you post meeting
|| [[#t16:29:59|16:29]]
|- id="t16:30:05"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | aalam
| style="color: #9b519b" | j_dulaney: thanks
|| [[#t16:30:05|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:21"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | aalam
| style="color: #9b519b" | ok.
|| [[#t16:30:21|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | sure
|| [[#t16:30:56|16:30]]
|- id="t16:31:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty, it's time for everyone's favorite all-action show...
|| [[#t16:31:14|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic autoqa update
|| [[#t16:31:17|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | bring out the big hits, kparal and tflink
|| [[#t16:31:27|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:30"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan *fireworks*
|| [[#t16:31:30|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:39"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | this weeks' star is jskladan
|| [[#t16:31:39|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:43"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | jskladan: bring it on!
|| [[#t16:31:43|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:52"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney shoots fireworks at jskladan
|| [[#t16:31:52|16:31]]
|- id="t16:32:12"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | ok, big fat news: ResultsDB-integration is finally in master
|| [[#t16:32:12|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:35"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | and we (aka kparal) hope to have it on production by the end of the week
|| [[#t16:32:35|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:47"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | also, the ticket #408
|| [[#t16:32:47|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:57"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | so we will have a results frontend finally
|| [[#t16:32:57|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:57"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | Depcheck - argument list too long
|| [[#t16:32:57|16:32]]
|- id="t16:33:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yaaay, rejoicing
|| [[#t16:33:07|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:19"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | is solved &amp; in master
|| [[#t16:33:19|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week
|| [[#t16:33:27|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:27"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | sooo, not only results frontend
|| [[#t16:33:27|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:34"
! style="background-color: #854685" | jskladan
| style="color: #854685" | but also less CRASHED results :)
|| [[#t16:33:34|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master
|| [[#t16:33:46|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | kickass
|| [[#t16:33:50|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | everything should be prepared for a new autoqa release
|| [[#t16:33:54|16:33]]
|- id="t16:34:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | we will wait one and two more days, I'll upgrade some test clients in the meantime
|| [[#t16:34:11|16:34]]
|- id="t16:34:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | and then we will go production
|| [[#t16:34:24|16:34]]
|- id="t16:35:08"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | anything else, someone?
|| [[#t16:35:08|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info new autoqa release planned in a couple of days
|| [[#t16:35:24|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:29"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | some tests were removed from autoqa for now
|| [[#t16:35:29|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | awesome work folks, thanks for that
|| [[#t16:35:31|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:34"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | ah right
|| [[#t16:35:34|16:35]]
|- id="t16:36:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | we removed some tests we either couldn't maintain (and they were broken) or that we decided are not worth execution ATM
|| [[#t16:36:11|16:36]]
|- id="t16:36:12"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | I'm going to be writing a compose_tree replacement as time allows
|| [[#t16:36:12|16:36]]
|- id="t16:36:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | that is anaconda_* and compose_tree tests
|| [[#t16:36:24|16:36]]
|- id="t16:36:37"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | now every test has a maintainer defined
|| [[#t16:36:37|16:36]]
|- id="t16:36:48"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | and I'm going to insist on that policy :-)
|| [[#t16:36:48|16:36]]
|- id="t16:37:25"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | EOF
|| [[#t16:37:25|16:37]]
|- id="t16:37:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all  tests now have a defined maintainer
|| [[#t16:37:45|16:37]]
|- id="t16:37:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | coolbeans, thanks folks
|| [[#t16:37:49|16:37]]
|- id="t16:37:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic open floor
|| [[#t16:37:54|16:37]]
|- id="t16:37:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, anything else anyone's worried about?
|| [[#t16:37:58|16:37]]
|- id="t16:39:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | or shall we all go eat cake?
|| [[#t16:39:41|16:39]]
|- id="t16:40:10"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | Cake?
|| [[#t16:40:10|16:40]]
|- id="t16:40:16"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | What cake?
|| [[#t16:40:16|16:40]]
|- id="t16:41:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | there is always cake, my student
|| [[#t16:41:12|16:41]]
|- id="t16:41:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | you must learn only to discern it
|| [[#t16:41:22|16:41]]
|- id="t16:41:42"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney looks around, notes absence of cake.
|| [[#t16:41:42|16:41]]
|- id="t16:41:44"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: the cake is a lie
|| [[#t16:41:44|16:41]]
|- id="t16:41:45"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | LIES!
|| [[#t16:41:45|16:41]]
|- id="t16:42:19"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | although, this explains a few things ... adamw's insistance on testing etc.
|| [[#t16:42:19|16:42]]
|- id="t16:42:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i certainly do a lot of cake testing.
|| [[#t16:42:46|16:42]]
|- id="t16:42:47"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | And why he's always firing people
|| [[#t16:42:47|16:42]]
|- id="t16:43:04"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | tflink
| style="color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney: better than tests that commonly result in death
|| [[#t16:43:04|16:43]]
|- id="t16:43:07"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney thinks he fires folks that are too close to finding the truth
|| [[#t16:43:07|16:43]]
|- id="t16:43:32"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4d4d93" | tflink:  Hey, y'all, watch me do *this* test!
|| [[#t16:43:32|16:43]]
|- id="t16:43:51"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney ramps over four burning airliners
|| [[#t16:43:51|16:43]]
|- id="t16:44:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | that seems like a terrible waste of lift capacity.
|| [[#t16:44:20|16:44]]
|- id="t16:45:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty then folks
|| [[#t16:45:11|16:45]]
|- id="t16:45:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for coming
|| [[#t16:45:14|16:45]]
|- id="t16:45:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | everyone get ready for some happy fun beta testing
|| [[#t16:45:21|16:45]]
|- id="t16:45:28"
| colspan="2" | * adamw sets fuse for one minute
|| [[#t16:45:28|16:45]]
|- id="t16:45:35"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney hides from beta testing
|| [[#t16:45:35|16:45]]
|- id="t16:46:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t16:46:17|16:46]]
|}
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Attendees

  • adamw (88)
  • kparal (21)
  • j_dulaney (21)
  • tflink (14)
  • jskladan (10)
  • brunowolff (8)
  • zodbot (6)
  • aalam (5)
  • dgilmore (3)
  • nirik (2)
  • Cerlyn (1)
  • pschindl (1)

Agenda

  • Previous meeting follow-up
  • Fedora 17 Beta prep
  • Upcoming QA events
  • AutoQA update
  • Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

  • "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, most of the big hits are covered
  • "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, please test
  • "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - adam didn't get to that one yet
  • "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - updates have started rolling again

Fedora 17 Beta prep

  • everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end

Upcoming QA events

AutoQA update

  • resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week
  • Depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master
  • New autoqa release planned in a couple of days
  • Some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer

Open floor

N/A

IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 16:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon Mar 5 16:00:06 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00
adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 16:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 16:00
adamw #topic roll call 16:00
adamw #chair kparal 16:00
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal 16:00
adamw morning folks, it's meeting time 16:00
adamw who's around? 16:00
* brunowolff is here 16:01
* pschindl is here 16:01
* jskladan is lurking today 16:01
* tflink is present 16:01
adamw #chair tflink 16:02
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 16:02
* kparal pops up 16:02
* Cerlyn is here 16:02
* adamw whacks kparal 16:02
* nirik is lurking 16:02
adamw sorry....years of highly-trained mole reflexes 16:02
kparal .smash adamw 16:02
kparal damn, it never works for me 16:02
kparal bot, where are you? 16:02
kparal zodbot: .fire zodbot 16:03
adamw aha! I am unsmashable 16:03
* adamw fires zodbot 16:03
kparal I think I'm in a blacklist 16:03
adamw okay, let's get this crazy show on the road, kids 16:04
jskladan kparal: you have been fired too many times, I guess :)) 16:04
adamw #topic Fedora 17 Beta prep 16:04
adamw so, uh, if i was any better at this job i'd probably have done some! 16:04
* j_dulaney is here 16:04
adamw oh, wait a sec 16:04
adamw #undo 16:04
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adamw #topic previous meeting follow-up 16:05
adamw knew I was missing something. 16:05
adamw #info "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, i think it has most of the big hits 16:05
adamw #info "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, hope people have been testing them 16:06
adamw #info "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - didn't get to that one yet 16:06
adamw #info "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - I guess you got that done, bruno 16:07
adamw BRUNO! don't quit on us, bruno! 16:08
adamw welp, f17 updates got moving again, anyway, so it seems like it happened. 16:08
brunowolff I am here 16:09
adamw it's aliiiive 16:09
adamw oh, nirik - what happened with the ec2 image? do we have one now? 16:09
brunowolff I am multi-tasking though not well. 16:09
nirik adamw: dunno. dgilmore was working on that. 16:09
tflink adamw: I think that we got one but I'm not sure that it worked 16:10
adamw brunowolff: preach it. 16:10
adamw what the hell is with people expecting stuff to work around here? 16:10
* tflink vaguely remembers something about failures for the EC2 image but could be wrong 16:11
adamw wah, wah, my image doesn't boot, wah, wah, the usb stick ran away with my wife, it's just whine whine whine with you people 16:11
tflink adamw: if your wife ran away with the USB stic ... I think you have other issues to deal with :) 16:12
* j_dulaney thinks someone's about to be fired 16:12
adamw heh 16:12
kparal right, why don't people thank us for that? 16:12
kparal weird 16:12
j_dulaney Bloody VMs 16:12
adamw ookay then 16:13
* j_dulaney continues the saga of creating VMs whilst drunk that don't work 16:13
adamw #topic fedora 17 beta prep 16:13
adamw j_dulaney: the problem is clearly that you're not drunk enough 16:13
* j_dulaney isn't drunk at all right now 16:13
dgilmore adamw: no ec2 yet 16:13
adamw ah, okay 16:13
dgilmore adamw: i need to sit down and write some appliance-tools code 16:13
adamw so, it looks like we're still missing the raid and upgrade tests from alpha 16:14
adamw those are the two likely hairy areas at beta 16:14
adamw i meant to get the raid tests done but never quite made it 16:14
* tflink did iSCSI BFT and forgot to update the matrix 16:14
tflink still haven't done the regular iSCSI test case yet 16:14
adamw cool, thanks 16:14
adamw so we can try and get some of those done today, but in theory we should have a beta TC1 tomorrow 16:15
adamw dgilmore: any idea if we're on track for that? any big compose-blocking issues you know of? 16:15
tflink I'll probably try to wait for the TC1 image before trying the iSCSI tests again - my test machine can't boot alpha and I've been using a custom image 16:16
dgilmore adamw: im not aware of anything 16:16
adamw rats_install today fails at 'bootloader' so that's good, that's just the regular serial failure...it made it all the way through the ret 16:16
adamw rest 16:16
brunowolff We got a -1 for the pulseaudio update this morning, so that issue may not be resolved. 16:16
adamw brunowolff: erf. really? it's working here. 16:17
brunowolff Well his case was boot to run level 3, so it might not be the same problem. 16:17
brunowolff And it only was a report of the problem not being fixed, rather than worse. 16:17
adamw yeah, seems like a bad -1. 16:17
tflink sound works in runlevel 3? 16:17
adamw tflink: read https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751902 16:18
brunowolff So I plan to keeo the update as pending for stable. But we might need another update. 16:18
adamw brunowolff: from the bug it reads like there's no regression, that bug was reported for f16 16:18
adamw so i'd say just push the update, it's not making anything worse 16:18
adamw and it's clearly making most things better 16:19
j_dulaney +1 16:19
adamw okay, so, anyway, looks like we're basically on track for tc1 tomorrow 16:20
adamw and we'll just have to hope upgrades aren't borked too bad. 16:21
adamw if anyone wants to do some upgrade testing today, of course, go right ahead... 16:21
adamw #info everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end 16:22
adamw #topic upcoming QA events 16:22
adamw so we have tc1 tomorrow as mentioned, and of course a blocker review friday 16:22
adamw but the big news i guess is the test day cycle kicking in finally - thursday is openstack test day 16:23
* tflink is planning to send out an email to test@ asking for a volunteer to run friday's meeting 16:23
adamw that's 2012-03-08 16:23
adamw oh, and wednesday is i18n/l10n test day, i see 16:23
adamw tflink: cool, if no one steps up, i'll do it 16:23
adamw #info still looking for a volunteer to run friday's blocker review 16:24
adamw j_dulaney: everything looking good for the two test days? are their pages prepped and so on? 16:24
j_dulaney adamw: Indeed 16:24
j_dulaney adamw: I'll be dropping a blog post today about it 16:24
brunowolff I can't commit to that since work may intervene duiring the meeting. I expect to be at the meeting though. 16:24
adamw j_dulaney: great, also test-announce posts &c 16:26
j_dulaney adamw: Indeed 16:27
adamw how do we announce things in the cloud? planes with those jetstream trailer thingies? :) 16:27
adamw anyway, yeah, those look nicely on track, of course the rest of us can blog about them and so on 16:29
adamw anything else on upcoming events before we move on? 16:29
aalam adamw: j_dulaney: for l10n test day, it is 2012-03-07, but for i18n test day , i need 2012-03-14 16:29
aalam Is it possible to do 16:29
aalam before beta 16:29
j_dulaney aalam: I see no problem with that 16:29
j_dulaney aalam: I'll ping you post meeting 16:29
aalam j_dulaney: thanks 16:30
aalam ok. 16:30
adamw sure 16:30
adamw alrighty, it's time for everyone's favorite all-action show... 16:31
adamw #topic autoqa update 16:31
adamw bring out the big hits, kparal and tflink 16:31
* jskladan *fireworks* 16:31
kparal this weeks' star is jskladan 16:31
kparal jskladan: bring it on! 16:31
* j_dulaney shoots fireworks at jskladan 16:31
jskladan ok, big fat news: ResultsDB-integration is finally in master 16:32
jskladan and we (aka kparal) hope to have it on production by the end of the week 16:32
jskladan also, the ticket #408 16:32
kparal so we will have a results frontend finally 16:32
jskladan Depcheck - argument list too long 16:32
adamw yaaay, rejoicing 16:33
jskladan is solved & in master 16:33
adamw #info resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week 16:33
jskladan sooo, not only results frontend 16:33
jskladan but also less CRASHED results :) 16:33
adamw #info depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master 16:33
adamw kickass 16:33
kparal everything should be prepared for a new autoqa release 16:33
kparal we will wait one and two more days, I'll upgrade some test clients in the meantime 16:34
kparal and then we will go production 16:34
kparal anything else, someone? 16:35
adamw #info new autoqa release planned in a couple of days 16:35
tflink some tests were removed from autoqa for now 16:35
adamw awesome work folks, thanks for that 16:35
kparal ah right 16:35
kparal we removed some tests we either couldn't maintain (and they were broken) or that we decided are not worth execution ATM 16:36
tflink I'm going to be writing a compose_tree replacement as time allows 16:36
kparal that is anaconda_* and compose_tree tests 16:36
kparal now every test has a maintainer defined 16:36
kparal and I'm going to insist on that policy :-) 16:36
kparal EOF 16:37
adamw #info some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer 16:37
adamw coolbeans, thanks folks 16:37
adamw #topic open floor 16:37
adamw so, anything else anyone's worried about? 16:37
adamw or shall we all go eat cake? 16:39
j_dulaney Cake? 16:40
j_dulaney What cake? 16:40
adamw there is always cake, my student 16:41
adamw you must learn only to discern it 16:41
* j_dulaney looks around, notes absence of cake. 16:41
tflink adamw: the cake is a lie 16:41
j_dulaney LIES! 16:41
tflink although, this explains a few things ... adamw's insistance on testing etc. 16:42
adamw i certainly do a lot of cake testing. 16:42
j_dulaney And why he's always firing people 16:42
tflink j_dulaney: better than tests that commonly result in death 16:43
* j_dulaney thinks he fires folks that are too close to finding the truth 16:43
j_dulaney tflink: Hey, y'all, watch me do *this* test! 16:43
* j_dulaney ramps over four burning airliners 16:43
adamw that seems like a terrible waste of lift capacity. 16:44
adamw alrighty then folks 16:45
adamw thanks for coming 16:45
adamw everyone get ready for some happy fun beta testing 16:45
* adamw sets fuse for one minute 16:45
* j_dulaney hides from beta testing 16:45
adamw #endmeeting 16:46

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