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= Attendees =
= Attendees =
* adamw (73)
* tflink (22)
* jreznik (9)
* kparal (5)
* Viking-Ice (5)
* zodbot (4)
* dgilmore (2)
* jsmith (2)
* mkrizek (1)
* satellit (1)
* pschindl (1)


= Agenda =
= Agenda =
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== Previous meeting follow-up ==
== Previous meeting follow-up ==
* adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production
* ''adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production'' - this was done
* kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan (re kickstart), and let anaconda team know
* ''kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan (re kickstart), and let anaconda team know'' - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified
* tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo
* ''tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo'' - this was done - warning added to [[QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing]]
* ''viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes'' - viking opened [http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885808 a bug]


== Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review ==
== Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review ==
* TC3 planning - shim issues?
* TC2 was done
* fedup media support?
* There was a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we needed to get into a TC3
* Blocker / NTH review
* Blocker list was still considerable, adamw would send out a blocker status mail later
* Agreed to hold daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog
* jreznik was trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods


== Open floor ==
== Open floor ==
N/A
== Action items ==
* viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes


== IRC Log ==
== IRC Log ==
{|
|- id="t16:00:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
|| [[#t16:00:24|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:24"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Dec 17 16:00:24 2012 UTC.  The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t16:00:24|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:24"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t16:00:24|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
|| [[#t16:00:28|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:28"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t16:00:28|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call
|| [[#t16:00:30|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:58"
| colspan="2" | * jsmith is here
|| [[#t16:00:58|16:00]]
|- id="t16:01:08"
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek is here
|| [[#t16:01:08|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:10"
| colspan="2" | * satellit listening
|| [[#t16:01:10|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:22"
| colspan="2" | * kparal around
|| [[#t16:01:22|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:33"
| colspan="2" | * tflink is here
|| [[#t16:01:33|16:01]]
|- id="t16:02:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning all
|| [[#t16:02:21|16:02]]
|- id="t16:03:37"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is here
|| [[#t16:03:37|16:03]]
|- id="t16:05:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic previous meeting follow-up
|| [[#t16:05:01|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal tflink
|| [[#t16:05:06|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink
|| [[#t16:05:06|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:15"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t16:05:15|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo"
|| [[#t16:05:55|16:05]]
|- id="t16:06:04"
| colspan="2" | * adamw doesn't quite recall what that was in relation to, tflink?
|| [[#t16:06:04|16:06]]
|- id="t16:06:46"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | this was people using the siderepo on my fedorapeople account for actual upgrades, not just upgrade testing
|| [[#t16:06:46|16:06]]
|- id="t16:07:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I added a warning to the wiki page containing the url to that repo
|| [[#t16:07:11|16:07]]
|- id="t16:07:35"
! style="background-color: #854685" | kparal
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: which page?
|| [[#t16:07:35|16:07]]
|- id="t16:08:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh right. good
|| [[#t16:08:16|16:08]]
|- id="t16:08:36"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | kparal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing
|| [[#t16:08:36|16:08]]
|- id="t16:08:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo" this was done - warning added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing
|| [[#t16:08:43|16:08]]
|- id="t16:09:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes"
|| [[#t16:09:03|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:05"
! style="background-color: #854685" | kparal
| style="color: #854685" | ah, that's the one I couldn't find today
|| [[#t16:09:05|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:07"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | which is horribly out of date at this point
|| [[#t16:09:07|16:09]]
|- id="t16:09:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we appear to be be short one viking this morning, but lemme check the archives
|| [[#t16:09:17|16:09]]
|- id="t16:10:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't see anything relating to this in the docs list archive
|| [[#t16:10:12|16:10]]
|- id="t16:10:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking-ice not present, no indication in docs list archive that this was done
|| [[#t16:10:45|16:10]]
|- id="t16:10:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | let's roll the action item over for next week
|| [[#t16:10:46|16:10]]
|- id="t16:10:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes
|| [[#t16:10:51|16:10]]
|- id="t16:11:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production"
|| [[#t16:11:02|16:11]]
|- id="t16:11:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | this is done. the pause at the start of the meeting was not IN ANY WAY AT ALL to do with me doing this. *koff*
|| [[#t16:11:22|16:11]]
|- id="t16:11:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production" - this is done
|| [[#t16:11:33|16:11]]
|- id="t16:12:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - i believe this was in relation to kickstart
|| [[#t16:12:24|16:12]]
|- id="t16:12:54"
! style="background-color: #854685" | kparal
| style="color: #854685" | yes, I replied to the test list and I'll revive the thread and notify anaconda-devel once F18 is out
|| [[#t16:12:54|16:12]]
|- id="t16:13:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | coolbeans
|| [[#t16:13:00|16:13]]
|- id="t16:13:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified
|| [[#t16:13:08|16:13]]
|- id="t16:14:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review
|| [[#t16:14:06|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info TC2 is out
|| [[#t16:14:14|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info there is a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we need to get into a TC3 today
|| [[#t16:14:28|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I think that both releng and I had issues getting TC3 (ish) to build
|| [[#t16:14:54|16:14]]
|- id="t16:14:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info blocker list is still considerable, i will send out a blocker status mail later today
|| [[#t16:14:56|16:14]]
|- id="t16:15:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, i know, that's why it didn't happen yet
|| [[#t16:15:03|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | lorax complaining about nothing providing shim even though shim-signed does, right?
|| [[#t16:15:24|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:32"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | ok, I didn't end up figuring out why a smoke build didn't work but it sounded like dgilmore understood what was going on a bit better than I did
|| [[#t16:15:32|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't know why no-one just slapped together a lorax that looked for shim-signed, but hey.
|| [[#t16:15:37|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I haven't looked at it since friday night, don't remember 100% ATM
|| [[#t16:15:44|16:15]]
|- id="t16:15:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so anyway, we'll clear that up today and get rolling
|| [[#t16:15:55|16:15]]
|- id="t16:16:21"
! style="background-color: #488888" | dgilmore
| style="color: #488888" | tflink: i know whats going on should have a fix soon
|| [[#t16:16:21|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore: cool, thanks
|| [[#t16:16:31|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:35"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | dgilmore: awesome to hear
|| [[#t16:16:35|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info dgilmore is on top of tc3 compose problems
|| [[#t16:16:43|16:16]]
|- id="t16:16:59"
! style="background-color: #488888" | dgilmore
| style="color: #488888" | should have it this morning
|| [[#t16:16:59|16:16]]
|- id="t16:17:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we also have concerns about fedup secure/media-based upgrades, though i guess we can kick that to fesco
|| [[#t16:17:32|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I have a subtopic before we move on to blocker review
|| [[#t16:17:38|16:17]]
|- id="t16:17:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#t16:17:41|16:17]]
|- id="t16:18:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | which is blocker/NTH review - I'm starting to wonder if we just need to have daily meetings until we get through them all since we're so close to release
|| [[#t16:18:31|16:18]]
|- id="t16:18:47"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | ... and remove all sharp/dangerous objects from the people in those meetings
|| [[#t16:18:47|16:18]]
|- id="t16:19:02"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | s/from/from around/
|| [[#t16:19:02|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | it's a terrible idea but better than any other terrible idea i can think of.
|| [[#t16:19:09|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we at least need to knock off all the proposed blockers.
|| [[#t16:19:18|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:23"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I don't like it either but I don't have a better solution right now
|| [[#t16:19:23|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:43"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I really don't like the idea that we're not through the list this late
|| [[#t16:19:43|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | btw, a chunk of stuff on the proposed nth list is related, if you didn't catch that - dledford proposed a chunk of bugs related to two updates as nth
|| [[#t16:19:50|16:19]]
|- id="t16:19:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, no, i agree
|| [[#t16:19:55|16:19]]
|- id="t16:20:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone have a less awful idea?
|| [[#t16:20:00|16:20]]
|- id="t16:20:57"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | I don't really understand most of them, though - I assume you're talking about the rdma bugs?
|| [[#t16:20:57|16:20]]
|- id="t16:21:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | ifcfg-ib etc.
|| [[#t16:21:22|16:21]]
|- id="t16:21:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah. we can talk about that when we get to it anyhow, but when we do, we should take 'em as a pack
|| [[#t16:21:42|16:21]]
|- id="t16:23:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | unfortunately, I'm not hearing any counter-proposals :(
|| [[#t16:23:11|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nope, so bureaucracy it is.
|| [[#t16:23:18|16:23]]
|- id="t16:23:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info there will be daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog
|| [[#t16:23:31|16:23]]
|- id="t16:24:01"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | on the bright side, I don't think that many NTHs will provoke long discussion
|| [[#t16:24:01|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | if we ever get to 'em.
|| [[#t16:24:16|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:28"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | for fedup, I just sent wwoods email to clarify media based upgrades...
|| [[#t16:24:28|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, any other general f18 status concerns/thoughts?
|| [[#t16:24:33|16:24]]
|- id="t16:24:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info jreznik trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods
|| [[#t16:24:42|16:24]]
|- id="t16:25:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | does being ready for release as planned count?
|| [[#t16:25:24|16:25]]
|- id="t16:25:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | heh.
|| [[#t16:25:41|16:25]]
|- id="t16:26:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | actually, shall we do what we did last week, and close this meeting before we do blocker review?
|| [[#t16:26:03|16:26]]
|- id="t16:26:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i just had open floor listed after this
|| [[#t16:26:09|16:26]]
|- id="t16:26:19"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | works for me
|| [[#t16:26:19|16:26]]
|- id="t16:27:06"
! style="background-color: #854685" | kparal
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: +1
|| [[#t16:27:06|16:27]]
|- id="t16:27:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay then
|| [[#t16:27:15|16:27]]
|- id="t16:27:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info we'll finish this meeting then go on to blocker review in #fedora-qa
|| [[#t16:27:24|16:27]]
|- id="t16:27:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open floor
|| [[#t16:27:52|16:27]]
|- id="t16:27:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so...any other business?
|| [[#t16:27:55|16:27]]
|- id="t16:30:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | apparently not!
|| [[#t16:30:16|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i know this cycle is getting wearing...still, finish line is kinda in sight
|| [[#t16:30:28|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:38"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | pygobject3
|| [[#t16:30:38|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, for firewalld?
|| [[#t16:30:47|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | it's on the NTH list, right?
|| [[#t16:30:53|16:30]]
|- id="t16:30:58"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | no
|| [[#t16:30:58|16:30]]
|- id="t16:31:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yes
|| [[#t16:31:09|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:09"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | that's why I raised it now (or I'm just blind)
|| [[#t16:31:09|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874378
|| [[#t16:31:09|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | put that one on the nth-high-priority list tflink?
|| [[#t16:31:33|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | actually it'd be good to weed an NTH high-priority list in today's review
|| [[#t16:31:46|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:48"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | ok, it's still marked as firewalld
|| [[#t16:31:48|16:31]]
|- id="t16:31:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: there are two bugs
|| [[#t16:31:54|16:31]]
|- id="t16:32:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i picked that one for nth nomination more or less at random
|| [[#t16:32:03|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:13"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | adamw: yep, high prio as fesco request this to be in final
|| [[#t16:32:13|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: i think i already pulled in some proposed NTH fixes to TC requests, so be good to sign off on those
|| [[#t16:32:19|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: so, blocker review starting in -qa in a couple of minutes?
|| [[#t16:32:35|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:41"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tflink
| style="color: #818144" | -bugzappers
|| [[#t16:32:41|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:42"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #4b904b" | Sorry was dealing with few issues @dayjob
|| [[#t16:32:42|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ah
|| [[#t16:32:43|16:32]]
|- id="t16:32:49"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jreznik
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and thanks goes to halfline, the only one who offered the help to fix it :)
|| [[#t16:32:49|16:32]]
|- id="t16:33:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice: what's the status of your notifying-docs-team-about-advanced-storage action item?
|| [[#t16:33:01|16:33]]
|- id="t16:33:55"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw, I open a bug against documentation which is afaik the proper procedure to do so
|| [[#t16:33:55|16:33]]
|- id="t16:34:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ah, cool
|| [[#t16:34:01|16:34]]
|- id="t16:34:19"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #4b904b" | 885808
|| [[#t16:34:19|16:34]]
|- id="t16:34:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info on action item "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking opened a bug, 885808
|| [[#t16:34:34|16:34]]
|- id="t16:34:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i'm not gonna #undo all the way back there, but count it as done, i won't put it on next week's follow-up list
|| [[#t16:34:48|16:34]]
|- id="t16:35:07"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #4b904b" | I expect the docs team to take it from there
|| [[#t16:35:07|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | blocker review in -bugzappers in a few minutes, everyone
|| [[#t16:35:08|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:12"
| colspan="2" | * adamw sets fuse for 2 minutes
|| [[#t16:35:12|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice: yup, sounds right to me
|| [[#t16:35:19|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:33"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is going to take a quick snack before blocker review
|| [[#t16:35:33|16:35]]
|- id="t16:35:40"
| colspan="2" | * Viking-Ice returns to work
|| [[#t16:35:40|16:35]]
|- id="t16:36:16"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | jsmith
| style="color: #4d4d93" | jreznik: Good idea :-)
|| [[#t16:36:16|16:36]]
|- id="t16:40:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t16:40:11|16:40]]
|}
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Attendees

  • adamw (73)
  • tflink (22)
  • jreznik (9)
  • kparal (5)
  • Viking-Ice (5)
  • zodbot (4)
  • dgilmore (2)
  • jsmith (2)
  • mkrizek (1)
  • satellit (1)
  • pschindl (1)

Agenda

  • Previous meeting follow-up
  • Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review
  • Test case / criteria revision
  • Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

  • adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production - this was done
  • kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan (re kickstart), and let anaconda team know - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified
  • tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo - this was done - warning added to QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing
  • viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes - viking opened a bug

Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review

  • TC2 was done
  • There was a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we needed to get into a TC3
  • Blocker list was still considerable, adamw would send out a blocker status mail later
  • Agreed to hold daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog
  • jreznik was trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods

Open floor

N/A

Action items

  • viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes

IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 16:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon Dec 17 16:00:24 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00
adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 16:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 16:00
adamw #topic roll call 16:00
* jsmith is here 16:00
* mkrizek is here 16:01
* satellit listening 16:01
* kparal around 16:01
* tflink is here 16:01
adamw morning all 16:02
* jreznik is here 16:03
adamw #topic previous meeting follow-up 16:05
adamw #chair kparal tflink 16:05
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 16:05
* pschindl is here 16:05
adamw "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo" 16:05
* adamw doesn't quite recall what that was in relation to, tflink? 16:06
tflink this was people using the siderepo on my fedorapeople account for actual upgrades, not just upgrade testing 16:06
tflink I added a warning to the wiki page containing the url to that repo 16:07
kparal tflink: which page? 16:07
adamw oh right. good 16:08
tflink kparal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing 16:08
adamw #info "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo" this was done - warning added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing 16:08
adamw "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" 16:09
kparal ah, that's the one I couldn't find today 16:09
tflink which is horribly out of date at this point 16:09
adamw we appear to be be short one viking this morning, but lemme check the archives 16:09
adamw i don't see anything relating to this in the docs list archive 16:10
adamw #info "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking-ice not present, no indication in docs list archive that this was done 16:10
adamw let's roll the action item over for next week 16:10
adamw #action viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes 16:10
adamw "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production" 16:11
adamw this is done. the pause at the start of the meeting was not IN ANY WAY AT ALL to do with me doing this. *koff* 16:11
adamw #info "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production" - this is done 16:11
adamw "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - i believe this was in relation to kickstart 16:12
kparal yes, I replied to the test list and I'll revive the thread and notify anaconda-devel once F18 is out 16:12
adamw coolbeans 16:13
adamw #info "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified 16:13
adamw #topic Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review 16:14
adamw #info TC2 is out 16:14
adamw #info there is a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we need to get into a TC3 today 16:14
tflink I think that both releng and I had issues getting TC3 (ish) to build 16:14
adamw #info blocker list is still considerable, i will send out a blocker status mail later today 16:14
adamw yeah, i know, that's why it didn't happen yet 16:15
adamw lorax complaining about nothing providing shim even though shim-signed does, right? 16:15
tflink ok, I didn't end up figuring out why a smoke build didn't work but it sounded like dgilmore understood what was going on a bit better than I did 16:15
adamw i don't know why no-one just slapped together a lorax that looked for shim-signed, but hey. 16:15
tflink I haven't looked at it since friday night, don't remember 100% ATM 16:15
adamw so anyway, we'll clear that up today and get rolling 16:15
dgilmore tflink: i know whats going on should have a fix soon 16:16
adamw dgilmore: cool, thanks 16:16
tflink dgilmore: awesome to hear 16:16
adamw #info dgilmore is on top of tc3 compose problems 16:16
dgilmore should have it this morning 16:16
adamw we also have concerns about fedup secure/media-based upgrades, though i guess we can kick that to fesco 16:17
tflink I have a subtopic before we move on to blocker review 16:17
adamw ok 16:17
tflink which is blocker/NTH review - I'm starting to wonder if we just need to have daily meetings until we get through them all since we're so close to release 16:18
tflink ... and remove all sharp/dangerous objects from the people in those meetings 16:18
tflink s/from/from around/ 16:19
adamw it's a terrible idea but better than any other terrible idea i can think of. 16:19
adamw we at least need to knock off all the proposed blockers. 16:19
tflink I don't like it either but I don't have a better solution right now 16:19
tflink I really don't like the idea that we're not through the list this late 16:19
adamw btw, a chunk of stuff on the proposed nth list is related, if you didn't catch that - dledford proposed a chunk of bugs related to two updates as nth 16:19
adamw yeah, no, i agree 16:19
adamw anyone have a less awful idea? 16:20
tflink I don't really understand most of them, though - I assume you're talking about the rdma bugs? 16:20
tflink ifcfg-ib etc. 16:21
adamw yeah. we can talk about that when we get to it anyhow, but when we do, we should take 'em as a pack 16:21
tflink unfortunately, I'm not hearing any counter-proposals :( 16:23
adamw nope, so bureaucracy it is. 16:23
adamw #info there will be daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog 16:23
tflink on the bright side, I don't think that many NTHs will provoke long discussion 16:24
adamw if we ever get to 'em. 16:24
jreznik for fedup, I just sent wwoods email to clarify media based upgrades... 16:24
adamw so, any other general f18 status concerns/thoughts? 16:24
adamw #info jreznik trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods 16:24
tflink does being ready for release as planned count? 16:25
adamw heh. 16:25
adamw actually, shall we do what we did last week, and close this meeting before we do blocker review? 16:26
adamw i just had open floor listed after this 16:26
tflink works for me 16:26
kparal adamw: +1 16:27
adamw okay then 16:27
adamw #info we'll finish this meeting then go on to blocker review in #fedora-qa 16:27
adamw #topic Open floor 16:27
adamw so...any other business? 16:27
adamw apparently not! 16:30
adamw i know this cycle is getting wearing...still, finish line is kinda in sight 16:30
jreznik pygobject3 16:30
adamw oh, for firewalld? 16:30
adamw it's on the NTH list, right? 16:30
jreznik no 16:30
adamw yes 16:31
jreznik that's why I raised it now (or I'm just blind) 16:31
adamw https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874378 16:31
adamw put that one on the nth-high-priority list tflink? 16:31
adamw actually it'd be good to weed an NTH high-priority list in today's review 16:31
jreznik ok, it's still marked as firewalld 16:31
adamw jreznik: there are two bugs 16:31
adamw i picked that one for nth nomination more or less at random 16:32
jreznik adamw: yep, high prio as fesco request this to be in final 16:32
adamw tflink: i think i already pulled in some proposed NTH fixes to TC requests, so be good to sign off on those 16:32
adamw tflink: so, blocker review starting in -qa in a couple of minutes? 16:32
tflink -bugzappers 16:32
Viking-Ice Sorry was dealing with few issues @dayjob 16:32
adamw ah 16:32
jreznik and thanks goes to halfline, the only one who offered the help to fix it :) 16:32
adamw Viking-Ice: what's the status of your notifying-docs-team-about-advanced-storage action item? 16:33
Viking-Ice adamw, I open a bug against documentation which is afaik the proper procedure to do so 16:33
adamw ah, cool 16:34
Viking-Ice 885808 16:34
adamw #info on action item "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking opened a bug, 885808 16:34
adamw i'm not gonna #undo all the way back there, but count it as done, i won't put it on next week's follow-up list 16:34
Viking-Ice I expect the docs team to take it from there 16:35
adamw blocker review in -bugzappers in a few minutes, everyone 16:35
* adamw sets fuse for 2 minutes 16:35
adamw Viking-Ice: yup, sounds right to me 16:35
* jreznik is going to take a quick snack before blocker review 16:35
* Viking-Ice returns to work 16:35
jsmith jreznik: Good idea :-) 16:36
adamw #endmeeting 16:40

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