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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | [[I18N/Meetings/2009-04-14]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | welcome to the fedora-i18n team meeting | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | dychen_ | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | hi | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | woohoo | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone else? :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | sflanigan | |||
| style="color: #488888" | g'day | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | hello | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | hi | |||
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| style="color: #97974f" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay let's get started | |||
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! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragn | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #539e9e" | K410 | |||
| style="color: #539e9e" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | cool | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | # f11 final freeze | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:11:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | let's have a quick look at the blockers and i18n target bugs | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tomorrow is the final devel freeze for f11 | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:13:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm should have put the url on the page | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:13:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | here they are: | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:13:30" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446452 | |||
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! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | <http://tinyurl.com/c33xyz> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:13:32|Apr 14 15:13]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:13:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (blockers) | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:15:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | bug 495431 | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:15:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=495431 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus Release modifier doesn't work with Alt | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:15:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | doesn't really look like a blocker to me | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:15:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: as noted, it is a blocker if the dependent bug is a blocker as it currently is | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:15:43" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't really feel comfortable turning Alt_R into a global ibus hotkey at this stage | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: you're the one that suggested adding Alt_R as a global ibus hotkey | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I was? :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: we found yesterday that neither ibus-hangul or ibus global hotkey will work due to 495431 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: what do you say? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | phuang_: my question for you, why does SCIM not have this problem? | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | warren, It does not have? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | afraid I didn't get round to reviewing the list before the meeting | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | phuang_: right-Alt works in scim-hangul | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: globally? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm I don't think it is regression | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:18:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: no, it doesn't need that ugly hack, because scim-hangul does it natively | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: are you saying that Release does not work at all? | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:18:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: for Alt keys | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:18:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: ok for ko<->en right? | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:18:36|Apr 14 15:18]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:18:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: which we need to support proper hangul behavior | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:18:39|Apr 14 15:18]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I am testing scim-hangul | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:18:39|Apr 14 15:18]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:19:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: Release not working sounds like a bug - I don't the ibus-hangul en mode will make f11-final | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | s/don't/doubt | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | warren, where to set the switcher key in scim hangul? | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:19:50|Apr 14 15:19]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:19:50" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: right, that's why release not working is filed as a separate bug | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:19:50|Apr 14 15:19]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:19:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: is the bug hangul specific? well I will test later too | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: no | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: gotcha | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: you can't use Alt + Release for anything in ibus currently | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:20:11|Apr 14 15:20]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:20:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | phuang_: I don't know | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | warren, I think scim-hangul does not have Alt_r too. I did not find it | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:21:00|Apr 14 15:21]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: can we move it to target? I still hope we can fix the release issue | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:21:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: 495431 is a blocker only if 494445 is a blocker, which it has been up to now. | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: your decision | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:21:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | or make it block 494445? seems more reasonable to me | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:21:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: already does | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:21:40|Apr 14 15:21]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:21:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | already does | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:21:42|Apr 14 15:21]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yep thanks | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:21:45|Apr 14 15:21]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:03" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | phuang_: can you write a simple test app that I can use tomorrow in talking to the gtk maintainer? | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:22:03|Apr 14 15:22]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's discuss bug 495431 | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:22:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=495431 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus Release modifier doesn't work with Alt | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:22:18|Apr 14 15:22]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:23" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ugh | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:22:23|Apr 14 15:22]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's discuss bug 494445 | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:22:29|Apr 14 15:22]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=494445 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus-hangul missing right-Alt or Hangul Han/En mode | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:22:31|Apr 14 15:22]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 15:22:52" | |||
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | right-Alt is necessary to support the most commonly used hangul button | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp, I think scim-hangul does not have right-Alt hot key too. I did not find it | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | phuang_: hmm, i need to retest, I could have sworn it works here though | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: I think I meant adding Hangul key (whatever it is called) not Alt_R - I remember now - perhaps I was ambiguous | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | there should be something requires a release key event in hotkey. forgot which engine requires though | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: right | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | If the problem really is gtk+ filtering out Alt, then we need to talk to the GTK people? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | If so a simple test app that demonstrates the problem without ibus involved would really help. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | okay | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | warren: no, it really depend on immodule implementation | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | tagoh3: oh | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | no fault in gtk+ itself | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | so our problem then? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | at least current design | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | I see yes | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: do we have the hangul key added? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: as global trigger yes | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yes | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | warren, for trigger? yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | see it | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: your decision to move it to target, but this is a must fix for RHEL6. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: sure | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I think we are mostly out of time for f11 for this - we did our best :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | this isn't a regression for F-11 with defaults at least. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | right | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | ok, move both bugs to target | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:29:52|Apr 14 15:29]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | discuss https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 now? | |||
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! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | Bug 492510: medium, low, ---, fangqq, NEW, Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:30:00|Apr 14 15:30]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: there is also the ko compat layout - maybe we should mention it in the relnotes? | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:30:19|Apr 14 15:30]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | dunno how good it is? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yep let's move on | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: i'm not sure what that is | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (maybe gdm does not support it) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the wqy bug looks a bit hard | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | the font issue is complicated and I don't understand it | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | nod | |||
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! style="background-color: #539e9e" | K410 | |||
| style="color: #539e9e" | need more triage on that | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I think it really needs cleanup upstream.. I put some comments in the upstream bug earlier | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | who would actually do it upstream? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | I think only WE are the people who care about it and understand it. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3 proposed a new .conf file to help which led to more discussion | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: behdad? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | IMHO all of fonts that is likely to conflict should works in specific langs. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: yeah - I think it is ok to fallback to zh say if we don't know the lang | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: perhaps you want to comment on the upstream bug too? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (fallback relunctantly) | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: not read yet carefully but what upstream was saying about a kind of this issue was, to use lang tag for text IIRC. | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | this was introduced by preparing conf file without lang check though, I'm not sure if there are any way to avoid it in fontconfig | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: yeah I am not sure either - I think fqq is proposed a default fallback list - starting with zh bitmap... | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway main question is what if anything we can do for f11 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | warren: why did you install wqy-bitmap-fonts? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (added comment I was drafting) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway we will try to do a little testing and see if we can find a gentle workaround - but I don't want to break more stuff at this point :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | any more comments before we move on? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ## Target bugs | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446451 | |||
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! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | <http://tinyurl.com/ct9cnl> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:43:21|Apr 14 15:43]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: I install all CJK on my system so I cna test it | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: yum groupinstall chinese-support pulled in wqy-bitmap-fonts | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | fair enough | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | right | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 15:45:14|Apr 14 15:45]] | |||
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| colspan="2" | *juhp wonders if it is a bad idea to rebuild fonts now | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | why bad? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | warren | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: we can still tag things into final for weeks | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | well more late than bad | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | rahul_b: did you have a chance to rebuild culmus and ISO8889-2 fonts? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3 fixed bug 488899 | |||
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! style="background-color: #a25555" | buggbot | |||
| style="color: #a25555" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=488899 medium, low, ---, tagoh, MODIFIED, maybe xim related crash when restarting ibus | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | paragn: I guess the mr iso-codes won't make f11? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | paragn: what about the .engine files? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: as we've talked, I've disabled xim again by default in the last push. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | aha | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | juhp: paragn can we build iso-codes with patch? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: globally? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: yes | |||
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! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragn | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | juhp, yes mr iso-codes need some more time | |||
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! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragn | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | juhp, rebuilt m17n-db and m17n-contrib with removal of .engine files | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | pravins: paragn said caillon only wanted upstream source apparently | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | since its distorting all lang list of ibus | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 15:50:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragn | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | juhp, need to test this new m17n packages with ibus yet | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | hmm | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | paragn: on then please move the bug :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | s/on/ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragn | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | juhp, sure will do that | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | cool | |||
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| colspan="2" | *pravins thinks submitting screenshot on bug will help bit more :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: so you mean f11 imsettings won't worry about xim, right? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | pravins: could be good | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: unless one explicitly run applet. | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: applet allows changing xim backend? | |||
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| style="color: #854685" | yes. that's one of features applet contains | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: but not im-chooser? | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | rahul_b: ping? | |||
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| style="color: #854685" | it's just a frontend application to send a signal to imsettings. gconf-im-settings-daemon takes an action for gtk immodule. applet or imsettings-xim is for xim. | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | ok just wondering if applet has more feature than im-chooser? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anyways | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | will try to poke rahul_b later about those rebuilds | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ## f11 relnotes | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm I think this was a headsup that we need to review our relnotes and make sure they are up to date for the final release | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | pity that ibus didn't get extra attention with the f11beta highlights | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so please take some moments to review [[Documentation_l18n_Beat]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | ah, moved to new one? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | pravins: think we need to add your new ime's :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: part of the wiki namespace cleanup I believe | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | juhp: yeah, i was thinking same :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | so Docs/Beats/I18n will be removed shortly? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | pravins: please go ahead - or I will got to it eventually I guess | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: it redirects there | |||
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| style="color: #854685" | aha | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | didn't realized that since url isn't changed. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm I would not mind to move the l10n stuff into a separate beat | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | juhp: will do if after meeting | |||
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| style="color: #4d4d93" | s/if/it | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: yeah - maybe it is kind of a feature? aliases? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | some more update from collation side also need to update | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | but yeah can be a little confused - there is a message near the top though | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | s/confused/confusing | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: do you want to update anything there on imsettings? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | sure | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | # ibus | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | * ibus QA test event | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:08:37|Apr 14 16:08]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we planning a Fedora QA Test Day next month | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I think the tentative date is 14 May | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | let me see if I can dig out the url | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | [[Test_Days:IBus]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | that is still a draft and we need some more test cases so would appreciate input on those | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | specially for imsettings and CIJK test cases | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3, phuang_, paragn, dychen: so guess will need some help from you guys | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | dychen | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp: Sure | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3 | |||
| style="color: #854685" | sure | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_ | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 16:15:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | # Discussion | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:15:44|Apr 14 16:15]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 16:15:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | any other things to discuss today? | |||
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|- id="tApr 14 16:16:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry bit long meeting because of f11 freeze tomorrow | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:16:13|Apr 14 16:16]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 16:18:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok if no others topics then let's closed today's fedora-i18n meeting | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:18:13|Apr 14 16:18]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 16:18:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks everyone for joining in :) | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:18:39|Apr 14 16:18]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | pravins | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | thanks juhp | |||
|| [[#tApr 14 16:19:00|Apr 14 16:19]] | |||
|- id="tApr 14 16:19:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | * meeting closed | |||
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Agenda
- f11 final freeze
- blocker bugs
- moved 2 ibus-hangul bugs to target, leaving just wqy-bitmaps fonts issue
- target bugs reviewed
- f11 relnotes
- team to review and update final relnotes
- blocker bugs
- ibus QA test event
- Test_Days:IBus proposed tentatively for 14 May
Log
juhp | I18N/Meetings/2009-04-14 | Apr 14 15:02 |
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juhp | welcome to the fedora-i18n team meeting | Apr 14 15:02 |
dychen_ | hi | Apr 14 15:02 |
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jni_ | hi | Apr 14 15:02 |
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tagoh3 | hi | Apr 14 15:02 |
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juhp | woohoo | Apr 14 15:03 |
juhp | anyone else? :) | Apr 14 15:03 |
sflanigan | g'day | Apr 14 15:03 |
phuang_ | hi | Apr 14 15:03 |
warren | hello | Apr 14 15:04 |
pravins | hi | Apr 14 15:05 |
rahul_b | hi | Apr 14 15:06 |
juhp | okay let's get started | Apr 14 15:07 |
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paragn | hi | Apr 14 15:08 |
K410 | hi | Apr 14 15:09 |
juhp | cool | Apr 14 15:10 |
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juhp | # f11 final freeze | Apr 14 15:10 |
juhp | let's have a quick look at the blockers and i18n target bugs | Apr 14 15:11 |
juhp | tomorrow is the final devel freeze for f11 | Apr 14 15:11 |
juhp | hmm should have put the url on the page | Apr 14 15:13 |
juhp | here they are: | Apr 14 15:13 |
juhp | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446452 | Apr 14 15:13 |
buggbot | <http://tinyurl.com/c33xyz> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | Apr 14 15:13 |
juhp | (blockers) | Apr 14 15:13 |
juhp | bug 495431 | Apr 14 15:15 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=495431 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus Release modifier doesn't work with Alt | Apr 14 15:15 |
juhp | doesn't really look like a blocker to me | Apr 14 15:15 |
warren | juhp: as noted, it is a blocker if the dependent bug is a blocker as it currently is | Apr 14 15:15 |
juhp | I don't really feel comfortable turning Alt_R into a global ibus hotkey at this stage | Apr 14 15:15 |
juhp | yeah | Apr 14 15:15 |
warren | juhp: you're the one that suggested adding Alt_R as a global ibus hotkey | Apr 14 15:16 |
juhp | I was? :) | Apr 14 15:16 |
juhp | hmm | Apr 14 15:16 |
warren | juhp: we found yesterday that neither ibus-hangul or ibus global hotkey will work due to 495431 | Apr 14 15:16 |
juhp | hmm | Apr 14 15:16 |
juhp | phuang_: what do you say? | Apr 14 15:17 |
warren | phuang_: my question for you, why does SCIM not have this problem? | Apr 14 15:17 |
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phuang_ | warren, It does not have? | Apr 14 15:17 |
juhp | afraid I didn't get round to reviewing the list before the meeting | Apr 14 15:17 |
warren | phuang_: right-Alt works in scim-hangul | Apr 14 15:17 |
juhp | warren: globally? | Apr 14 15:17 |
juhp | hmm I don't think it is regression | Apr 14 15:18 |
warren | juhp: no, it doesn't need that ugly hack, because scim-hangul does it natively | Apr 14 15:18 |
juhp | warren: are you saying that Release does not work at all? | Apr 14 15:18 |
warren | juhp: for Alt keys | Apr 14 15:18 |
juhp | warren: ok for ko<->en right? | Apr 14 15:18 |
warren | juhp: which we need to support proper hangul behavior | Apr 14 15:18 |
phuang_ | I am testing scim-hangul | Apr 14 15:18 |
juhp | warren: Release not working sounds like a bug - I don't the ibus-hangul en mode will make f11-final | Apr 14 15:19 |
juhp | s/don't/doubt | Apr 14 15:19 |
phuang_ | warren, where to set the switcher key in scim hangul? | Apr 14 15:19 |
warren | juhp: right, that's why release not working is filed as a separate bug | Apr 14 15:19 |
juhp | warren: is the bug hangul specific? well I will test later too | Apr 14 15:19 |
warren | juhp: no | Apr 14 15:20 |
juhp | warren: gotcha | Apr 14 15:20 |
warren | juhp: you can't use Alt + Release for anything in ibus currently | Apr 14 15:20 |
warren | phuang_: I don't know | Apr 14 15:20 |
phuang_ | warren, I think scim-hangul does not have Alt_r too. I did not find it | Apr 14 15:21 |
juhp | warren: can we move it to target? I still hope we can fix the release issue | Apr 14 15:21 |
warren | juhp: 495431 is a blocker only if 494445 is a blocker, which it has been up to now. | Apr 14 15:21 |
warren | juhp: your decision | Apr 14 15:21 |
juhp | or make it block 494445? seems more reasonable to me | Apr 14 15:21 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 15:21 |
warren | juhp: already does | Apr 14 15:21 |
juhp | already does | Apr 14 15:21 |
juhp | yep thanks | Apr 14 15:21 |
warren | phuang_: can you write a simple test app that I can use tomorrow in talking to the gtk maintainer? | Apr 14 15:22 |
juhp | ok let's discuss bug 495431 | Apr 14 15:22 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=495431 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus Release modifier doesn't work with Alt | Apr 14 15:22 |
juhp | ugh | Apr 14 15:22 |
juhp | ok let's discuss bug 494445 | Apr 14 15:22 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=494445 medium, low, ---, phuang, NEW, ibus-hangul missing right-Alt or Hangul Han/En mode | Apr 14 15:22 |
warren | right-Alt is necessary to support the most commonly used hangul button | Apr 14 15:22 |
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phuang_ | juhp, I think scim-hangul does not have right-Alt hot key too. I did not find it | Apr 14 15:23 |
warren | phuang_: hmm, i need to retest, I could have sworn it works here though | Apr 14 15:23 |
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juhp | warren: I think I meant adding Hangul key (whatever it is called) not Alt_R - I remember now - perhaps I was ambiguous | Apr 14 15:23 |
tagoh3 | there should be something requires a release key event in hotkey. forgot which engine requires though | Apr 14 15:23 |
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juhp | tagoh3: right | Apr 14 15:24 |
warren | If the problem really is gtk+ filtering out Alt, then we need to talk to the GTK people? | Apr 14 15:24 |
juhp | hmm | Apr 14 15:25 |
warren | If so a simple test app that demonstrates the problem without ibus involved would really help. | Apr 14 15:25 |
juhp | okay | Apr 14 15:25 |
tagoh3 | warren: no, it really depend on immodule implementation | Apr 14 15:25 |
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warren | tagoh3: oh | Apr 14 15:25 |
tagoh3 | no fault in gtk+ itself | Apr 14 15:25 |
warren | so our problem then? | Apr 14 15:25 |
tagoh3 | at least current design | Apr 14 15:25 |
juhp | I see yes | Apr 14 15:26 |
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juhp | phuang_: do we have the hangul key added? | Apr 14 15:27 |
warren | juhp: as global trigger yes | Apr 14 15:27 |
juhp | yes | Apr 14 15:27 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 15:27 |
phuang_ | warren, for trigger? yeah | Apr 14 15:27 |
juhp | see it | Apr 14 15:28 |
warren | juhp: your decision to move it to target, but this is a must fix for RHEL6. | Apr 14 15:28 |
juhp | warren: sure | Apr 14 15:28 |
juhp | I think we are mostly out of time for f11 for this - we did our best :) | Apr 14 15:29 |
warren | this isn't a regression for F-11 with defaults at least. | Apr 14 15:29 |
juhp | right | Apr 14 15:29 |
warren | ok, move both bugs to target | Apr 14 15:29 |
warren | discuss https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 now? | Apr 14 15:29 |
buggbot | Bug 492510: medium, low, ---, fangqq, NEW, Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts | Apr 14 15:30 |
juhp | warren: there is also the ko compat layout - maybe we should mention it in the relnotes? | Apr 14 15:30 |
juhp | dunno how good it is? | Apr 14 15:30 |
juhp | yep let's move on | Apr 14 15:30 |
warren | juhp: i'm not sure what that is | Apr 14 15:31 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 15:31 |
juhp | (maybe gdm does not support it) | Apr 14 15:31 |
juhp | the wqy bug looks a bit hard | Apr 14 15:32 |
warren | the font issue is complicated and I don't understand it | Apr 14 15:32 |
juhp | nod | Apr 14 15:32 |
K410 | need more triage on that | Apr 14 15:32 |
juhp | I think it really needs cleanup upstream.. I put some comments in the upstream bug earlier | Apr 14 15:32 |
warren | who would actually do it upstream? | Apr 14 15:32 |
warren | I think only WE are the people who care about it and understand it. | Apr 14 15:33 |
juhp | tagoh3 proposed a new .conf file to help which led to more discussion | Apr 14 15:33 |
juhp | warren: behdad? | Apr 14 15:33 |
tagoh3 | IMHO all of fonts that is likely to conflict should works in specific langs. | Apr 14 15:33 |
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juhp | tagoh3: yeah - I think it is ok to fallback to zh say if we don't know the lang | Apr 14 15:33 |
juhp | tagoh3: perhaps you want to comment on the upstream bug too? | Apr 14 15:34 |
juhp | (fallback relunctantly) | Apr 14 15:34 |
tagoh3 | juhp: not read yet carefully but what upstream was saying about a kind of this issue was, to use lang tag for text IIRC. | Apr 14 15:34 |
tagoh3 | this was introduced by preparing conf file without lang check though, I'm not sure if there are any way to avoid it in fontconfig | Apr 14 15:36 |
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juhp | tagoh3: yeah I am not sure either - I think fqq is proposed a default fallback list - starting with zh bitmap... | Apr 14 15:38 |
juhp | anyway main question is what if anything we can do for f11 | Apr 14 15:39 |
juhp | warren: why did you install wqy-bitmap-fonts? | Apr 14 15:39 |
juhp | (added comment I was drafting) | Apr 14 15:40 |
juhp | anyway we will try to do a little testing and see if we can find a gentle workaround - but I don't want to break more stuff at this point :) | Apr 14 15:40 |
juhp | any more comments before we move on? | Apr 14 15:42 |
juhp | ## Target bugs | Apr 14 15:43 |
juhp | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446451 | Apr 14 15:43 |
buggbot | <http://tinyurl.com/ct9cnl> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | Apr 14 15:43 |
warren | juhp: I install all CJK on my system so I cna test it | Apr 14 15:43 |
warren | juhp: yum groupinstall chinese-support pulled in wqy-bitmap-fonts | Apr 14 15:43 |
juhp | fair enough | Apr 14 15:45 |
juhp | right | Apr 14 15:45 |
*juhp wonders if it is a bad idea to rebuild fonts now | Apr 14 15:45 | |
warren | why bad? | Apr 14 15:46 |
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warren | juhp: we can still tag things into final for weeks | Apr 14 15:46 |
juhp | well more late than bad | Apr 14 15:46 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 15:46 |
juhp | rahul_b: did you have a chance to rebuild culmus and ISO8889-2 fonts? | Apr 14 15:47 |
juhp | tagoh3 fixed bug 488899 | Apr 14 15:47 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=488899 medium, low, ---, tagoh, MODIFIED, maybe xim related crash when restarting ibus | Apr 14 15:47 |
juhp | paragn: I guess the mr iso-codes won't make f11? | Apr 14 15:48 |
juhp | paragn: what about the .engine files? | Apr 14 15:49 |
tagoh3 | juhp: as we've talked, I've disabled xim again by default in the last push. | Apr 14 15:49 |
juhp | aha | Apr 14 15:49 |
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pravins | juhp: paragn can we build iso-codes with patch? | Apr 14 15:49 |
juhp | tagoh3: globally? | Apr 14 15:49 |
tagoh3 | juhp: yes | Apr 14 15:50 |
paragn | juhp, yes mr iso-codes need some more time | Apr 14 15:50 |
paragn | juhp, rebuilt m17n-db and m17n-contrib with removal of .engine files | Apr 14 15:50 |
juhp | pravins: paragn said caillon only wanted upstream source apparently | Apr 14 15:50 |
pravins | since its distorting all lang list of ibus | Apr 14 15:50 |
paragn | juhp, need to test this new m17n packages with ibus yet | Apr 14 15:50 |
pravins | hmm | Apr 14 15:50 |
juhp | paragn: on then please move the bug :) | Apr 14 15:50 |
juhp | s/on/ok | Apr 14 15:50 |
paragn | juhp, sure will do that | Apr 14 15:51 |
juhp | cool | Apr 14 15:51 |
*pravins thinks submitting screenshot on bug will help bit more :) | Apr 14 15:52 | |
juhp | tagoh3: so you mean f11 imsettings won't worry about xim, right? | Apr 14 15:52 |
juhp | pravins: could be good | Apr 14 15:52 |
tagoh3 | juhp: unless one explicitly run applet. | Apr 14 15:52 |
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juhp | tagoh3: applet allows changing xim backend? | Apr 14 15:53 |
tagoh3 | yes. that's one of features applet contains | Apr 14 15:53 |
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juhp | tagoh3: but not im-chooser? | Apr 14 15:54 |
juhp | rahul_b: ping? | Apr 14 15:55 |
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tagoh3 | it's just a frontend application to send a signal to imsettings. gconf-im-settings-daemon takes an action for gtk immodule. applet or imsettings-xim is for xim. | Apr 14 15:55 |
juhp | ok just wondering if applet has more feature than im-chooser? | Apr 14 15:56 |
juhp | anyways | Apr 14 15:56 |
juhp | will try to poke rahul_b later about those rebuilds | Apr 14 15:57 |
juhp | ## f11 relnotes | Apr 14 16:01 |
juhp | hmm I think this was a headsup that we need to review our relnotes and make sure they are up to date for the final release | Apr 14 16:01 |
juhp | pity that ibus didn't get extra attention with the f11beta highlights | Apr 14 16:02 |
juhp | so please take some moments to review Documentation_l18n_Beat | Apr 14 16:03 |
tagoh3 | ah, moved to new one? | Apr 14 16:03 |
juhp | pravins: think we need to add your new ime's :) | Apr 14 16:04 |
juhp | tagoh3: part of the wiki namespace cleanup I believe | Apr 14 16:04 |
pravins | juhp: yeah, i was thinking same :) | Apr 14 16:04 |
juhp | :) | Apr 14 16:04 |
tagoh3 | so Docs/Beats/I18n will be removed shortly? | Apr 14 16:04 |
juhp | pravins: please go ahead - or I will got to it eventually I guess | Apr 14 16:05 |
juhp | tagoh3: it redirects there | Apr 14 16:05 |
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tagoh3 | aha | Apr 14 16:05 |
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tagoh3 | didn't realized that since url isn't changed. | Apr 14 16:06 |
juhp | hmm I would not mind to move the l10n stuff into a separate beat | Apr 14 16:06 |
pravins | juhp: will do if after meeting | Apr 14 16:06 |
pravins | s/if/it | Apr 14 16:06 |
juhp | tagoh3: yeah - maybe it is kind of a feature? aliases? | Apr 14 16:06 |
pravins | some more update from collation side also need to update | Apr 14 16:07 |
juhp | but yeah can be a little confused - there is a message near the top though | Apr 14 16:07 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 16:07 |
juhp | s/confused/confusing | Apr 14 16:07 |
juhp | tagoh3: do you want to update anything there on imsettings? | Apr 14 16:08 |
tagoh3 | sure | Apr 14 16:08 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 16:08 |
juhp | # ibus | Apr 14 16:08 |
juhp | * ibus QA test event | Apr 14 16:08 |
juhp | we planning a Fedora QA Test Day next month | Apr 14 16:08 |
juhp | I think the tentative date is 14 May | Apr 14 16:09 |
juhp | let me see if I can dig out the url | Apr 14 16:09 |
juhp | Test_Days:IBus | Apr 14 16:12 |
juhp | ok | Apr 14 16:12 |
juhp | that is still a draft and we need some more test cases so would appreciate input on those | Apr 14 16:12 |
juhp | specially for imsettings and CIJK test cases | Apr 14 16:13 |
juhp | tagoh3, phuang_, paragn, dychen: so guess will need some help from you guys | Apr 14 16:14 |
dychen | juhp: Sure | Apr 14 16:14 |
tagoh3 | sure | Apr 14 16:14 |
phuang_ | ok | Apr 14 16:15 |
juhp | thanks | Apr 14 16:15 |
juhp | # Discussion | Apr 14 16:15 |
juhp | any other things to discuss today? | Apr 14 16:15 |
juhp | sorry bit long meeting because of f11 freeze tomorrow | Apr 14 16:16 |
juhp | ok if no others topics then let's closed today's fedora-i18n meeting | Apr 14 16:18 |
juhp | thanks everyone for joining in :) | Apr 14 16:18 |
pravins | thanks juhp | Apr 14 16:19 |
juhp | * meeting closed | Apr 14 16:19 |
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