Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-17/HTML Log

HTML Log

fabian_a	Welcome everybody. Let's have Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA
wonderer1	ah, ok.
heffer_	ok
fabian_a	Who is here? Roll call. Please state your first name and surname (in the past this was your wiki name)
* wonderer1 is here
fugolini	FrancescoUgolini
* wonderer1 = henrik Heigl
heffer_	Felix Kaechele
fabian_a	FabianAffolter
rsc	Robert Scheck
fabian_a	lfoppiano, McGiwer, spevack...ping
spevack	pong
spevack	sorry
spevack	MaxSpevack
fabian_a	ok, not that much attendance ;-)
fabian_a	First point: News from FAmSCo
spevack	!
glezos	DimitrisGlezos (semi-here)
fabian_a	spevack,
spevack	k
spevack	well, just from the budget side of FAMSCo, I have a few things to report.
fabian_a	ok, go on
spevack	first of all, we are continuing to get funds to the event owners who have events coming up
spevack	I ask all the event owners to continue to save copies of receipts and stuff, which makes reimbursements much easier.
spevack	Also, the t-shirts that Fedora EMEA e.V. purchased have arrived, and they look great.
spevack	i want to thank kital for handling that.
spevack	we will be selling these shirts at events, so we will make enough money to purchase more, and also for Fedora EMEA e.V. to have some extra funds to sponsor travel, etc.
spevack	one last thing
spevack	I am personally a bit behind on fedora-ambassadors-list reading the last week or so, so I want to apologize if there is anyone waiting on me for a response that i haven't gotten to.
spevack	EOF
wonderer1	!
fugolini	!
fabian_a	wonderer1, then fugolini
wonderer1	First of all I also want to thank kital, spevak and aal of who else was involed to the T-Shirts. Question: in wich way we (Ambassadors) get them for Events (over fedoraproject page xyz?)? do we pay for them before selling them?
wonderer1	EOF
spevack	!
fugolini	ok spevack talk you
spevack	I can explain
spevack	very easy
spevack	So, I don't have the exact numbers here, but just assume for a minute that each shirt cost 5 EUR to produce.
spevack	And pretend that your event has a budget of 500 EUR.
spevack	If you say "max, send me 20 shirts for my event" then I will do that, and we will subtract 100 EUR from your event's budget.
spevack	If you sell the shirts, then great. it can help pay for other things at the event, or you can just give the money back and we'll hold it for later.
spevack	if you give the shirts away, that's ok too, because they are "paid" for out of the event's budget.
spevack	does that make sense?
spevack	EOF
glezos	spevack: yes
fugolini	!
fabian_a	fugolini,
wonderer1	ok
fugolini	Ok, i'll be brief, just two thinks from FAmSCo
fugolini	During the past week we had two main announcment: the first is the "New Members Policy" update
fugolini	thanks to kital suggestions. Those changes will help better focusing on people and will simplify new members and AMA too
fugolini	Ambassadors Membership Administrators
fugolini	for infos about this take a look at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00359.html
fugolini	The last important update was the official position taken by FAmSCo about Ambassadors list https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00353.html
fugolini	Moreover I thought it was necessary a pause to officialize it
fugolini	and for general discussion until FAD NA 2008
fugolini	The FAmSCo position is near-to-be-definitive. We need feedback from NA community that actually haven't a definitive position like EMEA has
fugolini	After they opinion, and if there will not really BIG reason against our position, we will officialize it
fugolini	so, the discussion on this thread is paused until October 15th, if I'm not wrong (FAD NA)
fugolini	That's all from a FAmSCo point of view updates.
fugolini	For release events maybe we could discuss later (sorry I don't have the meeting agenda with me)
fugolini	EOF
fabian_a	fugolini, thanks
fugolini	thank you too fabian_a
fabian_a	i guess that we can move on, or?
fugolini	+1
wonderer1	+1
heffer	+1
fabian_a	Ambassadors Membership Verification
fabian_a	the Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification page is now up-to-date
fabian_a	that's all...kital is not here
fabian_a	so let's start with events
fabian_a	have somebody something to say about a up-comming or past event?
fugolini	!
fabian_a	fugolini,
fugolini	F10 Release Parties events: this year we had 3 events in EMEA
spevack	!
fugolini	spevack: talk you
fugolini	I'll finish after you
fabian_a	spevack and then fugolini again
spevack	fugolini and i were talking the other day about funding for F10 release events
spevack	fugolini: there is going to be extra money from the FUDCon Brno budget, that we can use to release events.
spevack	that budget will be gone at the end of november, so if some release events will be in December, we just have to get the Ambassadors the money ahead of time.
spevack	EOF
red_alert	hi all, sorry for being late...only just arrived home
fugolini	spevack: thank you, you answer is 100 words worth
fugolini	BTW, this year we have more events worldwide but less in Europe
fugolini	But this is only statistic.
fugolini	As i wrote in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00375.html
spevack	I think we are having about as many events as we can handle with our current budget, worldwide. Personally I am pretty happy, though I hope for responsible growth both in budget and events in the future.
fugolini	Before September 30th I want to know how much Events Owner (EMEA too) will preview to spend
spevack	but both have to grow at the same time!
fugolini	Absolutely.
fugolini	I have wrote an email asking people to write argumented money requests, just to improve RE money distribution around the events.
spevack	!
fugolini	spevack: feel free to interupt me
spevack	i think about it very simply.
fugolini	you are the tresurer, you better than me
spevack	Whenever i talk to ambassadors, i try to ask this question:
spevack	"are you getting the resources you need, and is it easy for you to get those resources and organize an event?"
spevack	if they say yes, wonderful.
spevack	if they say no, then I take notes. :)
spevack	we just need to always be asking that question
spevack	and improving any complaints.
spevack	EOF
fugolini	Sure
spevack	FAMSCo works for Ambassadors!
fugolini	absolutely. I hope people have understood this reading my mail about RE
fugolini	So, if there are Events Owner I invite them to post their preview before that date. Max do you agree with me?
spevack	yes
fugolini	I hope to see great reports from EMEA too. We are covering three country and I'm sure it will be a success. That our goal!
fugolini	Any question?
spevack	? what do you mean "three countries"
fugolini	fugolini.fedorapeople.org/remap.html
fugolini	in EMEA we are covering 3 events in 3 different countries
spevack	ah, for release parties
spevack	i understand now
fugolini	I'm sorry
spevack	that is awesome!
spevack	i love your map
spevack	heh
spevack	EOF
fugolini	I hope next time, we will be able to imporve the organization of these events in EMEA too. I'll add a topic for FAD EMEA about this
fugolini	EOF
fabian_a	thanks guys
fabian_a	let me say something about events around and in switzerland
spevack	open expo next week!  :)
fabian_a	openexpo is next week, right. spevack will help and talk at this event. andreas and timea will help me there too.
wonderer1	!
fabian_a	wonderer1,
spevack	fabian_a: i will bring Live CDs and tshirts and my smiling face
wonderer1	I have a very short aking from GeroldKa for the sytems 2008 end of october in munich. I hope to get there with an OLPC near by the OLPC project itself to represent fedora there.
wonderer1	if anybody can and would help there, please tell me
wonderer1	there is no budget (I try to get some from the OLPC guys, but lets see).
spevack	wonderer1: how much budget do you think you need?
wonderer1	I hope to get an OLPC some days before to test it ( I only have one at Linuxtag 2007 and Jens handed me once one out for some minutes).
spevack	we have a few in EMEA, spread around various ambassadors
wonderer1	spevack: at this time travel and hotel for 2 days. I can collect the infos and mail it?!
wonderer1	yes, I know (allready on the mailinglist ;-)
wonderer1	I only want to tell here again and if there where some guys who where there or knew some ... contact me please.
wonderer1	EOF
fabian_a	wonderer1, thanks
spevack	wonderer1: that would be great
spevack	wonderer1: if you send an estimate, we can try to find the budget
wonderer1	spevack: Ok.
spevack	EOF
fabian_a	anything else about events in the near future?
fugolini	!
fabian_a	fugolini,
fugolini	LinuxDay: I'm not the owner
fugolini	But I want to say that lfoppiano and the Northern italian ambassadors are doing
fugolini	a great job trying to contact each LUG and focusing on covering the biggest one.
fugolini	Personally I will cover my province LUG, that has an attendance of 500/1000 people
fugolini	(many of them schools/businesses etc).
fugolini	But that's offtopic.
fugolini	Generally you can see what owner and helpers are doing
fugolini	seeing this page
fugolini	I don't find it, but make a search in Fedoraproject.org wiki
fugolini	And you'll get all the informations about the kit we will distribute around LUGs, speech that we hold etc
fugolini	EOF
fabian_a	http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxDay
fabian_a	are we done for this month?
fabian_a	i will adjourn in 20 s
fabian_a	10
spevack	if anyone needs anything, you always can email me and i will do my best! EOF :)
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spevack	thanks fabian_a
wonderer1	thanks all
fabian_a	Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-09-17 has been adjourned. Next meeting in October 2008.

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