Meeting:IRC Support SIG 2009-02-19

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nirik	who all is around for the IRC Support SIG meeting?	Feb 19 09:30
*thomasj		Feb 19 09:31
*zcat		Feb 19 09:31
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*nirik will wait a few more for folks to arrive.		Feb 19 09:32
EvilBob	Southern can't make it	Feb 19 09:34
nirik	well, not many people here, but then I don't have much on the agenda.	Feb 19 09:34
---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - State of the channel		Feb 19 09:34
nirik	so, how are we doing over the last week? any ideas on how we can improve?	Feb 19 09:35
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*zcat pulls a number out... and it says the state is 89%		Feb 19 09:35
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nirik	it's seemed like a pretty quiet week to me... not too much excitement.	Feb 19 09:35
thomasj	yep	Feb 19 09:36
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nirik	is anyone running pisg regularly? I guess I can make another run here...	Feb 19 09:37
nirik	sometimes nice stats to see who is at least typing the most. ;)	Feb 19 09:37
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thomasj	Maybe thats what Sonar_Guy uses.	Feb 19 09:38
thomasj	nirik, http://theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora.html	Feb 19 09:38
nirik	yeah... is that running regularly?	Feb 19 09:38
thomasj	yep	Feb 19 09:39
*fenrus02 checks		Feb 19 09:39
*nirik waits for it to load, since tons of people are hitting it at once. ;)		Feb 19 09:39
thomasj	lol	Feb 19 09:40
fenrus02	it looks down :/	Feb 19 09:40
thomasj	ugh.. yeah, well i have a copy open in my browser a few hours old.	Feb 19 09:40
nirik	well, no worries, just thought it might be interesting.	Feb 19 09:41
thomasj	it gets updated every 30-60 mins	Feb 19 09:41
thomasj	Sonar_Guy, ping	Feb 19 09:42
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nirik	I'll throw in a plug for the next classroom sessions... still looking for teachers or students: Classroom	Feb 19 09:42
nirik	and thats pretty much all I had. ;)	Feb 19 09:42
---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG meeting - Open Floor		Feb 19 09:42
nirik	anyone have any other comments/concerns/thoughts to bring up?	Feb 19 09:44
Sonar_Guy	nirik: I am runnign pisg	Feb 19 09:45
thomasj	Sonar_Guy, ah there you are, your server is down (it looks like)	Feb 19 09:46
nirik	cool. On the full log? or weekly/daily?	Feb 19 09:46
Sonar_Guy	full log	Feb 19 09:46
nirik	ok. We might want to run it weekly and mention it here at the meetings... not sure how usefull it would be	Feb 19 09:47
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Sonar_Guy	nirik: for what channel?	Feb 19 09:47
nirik	fedora	Feb 19 09:47
nirik	just to see who has been most active, how many kicks, etc.	Feb 19 09:48
Sonar_Guy	Hmm, so your looking to pull out weekly stats?	Feb 19 09:48
nirik	yeah, it was a thought.	Feb 19 09:48
fenrus02	how many times 'balsac' has joined and been /kicked?	Feb 19 09:48
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nirik	indeed.	Feb 19 09:48
Sonar_Guy	I think I can modify that, I will have to check	Feb 19 09:48
nirik	http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/fedora-20090219.html is my current run, FWIW	Feb 19 09:48
Sonar_Guy	and see if I can do both	Feb 19 09:49
nirik	ok, just a thought. I am not sure how useful the stats would be, but they might tell us something about week to week trends.	Feb 19 09:50
Sonar_Guy	let me see what I can do	Feb 19 09:51
nirik	ok, that would be great.	Feb 19 09:51
nirik	Also, I will really see about writing up fedbot docs on the wiki somewhere...	Feb 19 09:51
Sonar_Guy	I may just setup a second account that does that logging	Feb 19 09:51
nirik	ok, anything else? or shall we call it a short meeting?	Feb 19 09:52
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Sonar_Guy	works for me	Feb 19 09:52
thomasj	+1	Feb 19 09:52
EvilBob	If the channel is being logged a note should be in the topic	Feb 19 09:52
fenrus02	"the only good meeting is a short meeting"	Feb 19 09:52
EvilBob	IMO anyhow	Feb 19 09:52
fenrus02	EvilBob, why?	Feb 19 09:52
nirik	EvilBob: agreed if it's official... I have been logging here for years in xchat...	Feb 19 09:53
fenrus02	EvilBob, isnt that basically understood if you're using irc in the first place?	Feb 19 09:53
EvilBob	fenrus02: no	Feb 19 09:53
nirik	see the bottom here: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml	Feb 19 09:53
EvilBob	if logs are knowing being published there should be a note	Feb 19 09:53
nirik	I don't think we should publish any logs.	Feb 19 09:53
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EvilBob	in a way the log stats that Sonar_Guy is doing is publishing info	Feb 19 09:54
nirik	EvilBob: pisg isn't publishing the logs, just stats based on them.	Feb 19 09:54
fenrus02	just pisg isnt the same as publishing	Feb 19 09:54
EvilBob	Some may not want it published that their nick was in the channel	Feb 19 09:55
nirik	I would like to see more stats/less quotes in the output I want... not sure pisg can do that or perhaps there is a better tool.	Feb 19 09:55
Sonar_Guy	nirik: it can handle that	Feb 19 09:55
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Sonar_Guy	just gotta tweak the config file	Feb 19 09:55
EvilBob	it would be better to have the note than to not have the note IMO	Feb 19 09:55
Sonar_Guy	EvilBob: then maybe those people should stay off irc	Feb 19 09:56
EvilBob	"This channel may be logged" should not be a big deal to add to the topic	Feb 19 09:56
fenrus02	nirik, agreed. i see very little value in the quotes	Feb 19 09:56
zcat	yawn... attack of the fineprint needles	Feb 19 09:56
nirik	EvilBob: well, the topic is already pretty long...	Feb 19 09:57
EvilBob	Hell the nut jobs freaked out when it came to the hardware tool...	Feb 19 09:57
nirik	Perhaps we could add it to the join message? how long is that now? just the disclaimer?	Feb 19 09:58
EvilBob	nirik: that should be acceptable IMO	Feb 19 09:58
EvilBob	"This channel may be logged and published" should be more than enough, just in case someone wants to publish old logs in the future	Feb 19 09:59
EvilBob	there are plenty #fedora logs out there already	Feb 19 10:00
nirik	man, chanserv help is pretty bad. ;) Anyone know how to see the current one? I guess just joining the channel would it.	Feb 19 10:01
Sonar_Guy	mine never get published	Feb 19 10:01
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nirik	oh well, how about we look at where we could add it, and discuss next week...	Feb 19 10:05
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nirik	and we can decide what stats to gather or if any of them make sense.	Feb 19 10:07
nirik	so, anyone have anything else? or shall I close the meeting out?	Feb 19 10:07
*nirik will close the meeting in a few here.		Feb 19 10:07
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---nirik has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule		Feb 19 10:10
nirik	thanks for coming everyone!	Feb 19 10:10

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