Meeting:Marketing meeting 2009-05-19

themayor	hey guys	22:00
moixs	hello :)	22:00
themayor	fedora marketing meetings	22:00
linuxguru	yay	22:00
herlo	oh hai!	22:00
herlo	.fas herlo	22:00
zodbot	herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com>	22:00
themayor	anyone else?	22:01
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themayor	lets give it another minute	22:03
herlo	k	22:04
themayor	alright lets go	22:05
herlo	k	22:05
themayor	let me get into the fedora tour thing first	22:05
themayor	herlo, did you get a chance to finish up the screenshot tour:?	22:06
* herlo was unable to get the fingerprint reader thing to work on his machine, not sure what's going on there. Haven't had time to troubleshoot much		22:06
herlo	in addition, I wanted to get the screencast for the new boot up on the tour too...	22:06
themayor	okay what options do you have for the fingerprint stuff?	22:07
herlo	apparently none now	22:07
themayor	can you ask someone on another list to contribute?	22:07
herlo	probably	22:07
herlo	not sure where, but if that's the only thing missing, I'm not too sad	22:07
moixs	Is it really that important to put so much effort into one screenshot? :p	22:07
herlo	exactly my thoughts	22:08
* stickster is here late, sorry		22:08
themayor	yes, because it is a feature we are promoting	22:08
stickster	herlo: Hey, I think I have you covered	22:08
stickster	themayor: ^^	22:08
herlo	stickster: ooh, cool	22:08
themayor	awesome	22:08
herlo	stickster: we need an about me and a pop-up message	22:08
stickster	Hang on... brb, uploading from a different user login	22:08
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herlo	those are the ones I wanted to get	22:08
themayor	stickster: thats for the fingerprint thing or the boot up? or both?	22:08
herlo	stickster: I have the boot screencast done	22:09
herlo	http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/f11-plymouth-restart.ogg	22:09
stickster	fprint	22:10
herlo	sweet!	22:10
themayor	okay great	22:10
themayor	okay so we are good to go with that portion of things, right?	22:11
moixs	herlo: can't you just edit out the whole part which shows display corruptions?	22:11
herlo	moixs: yeah, probably, but I don't know that it even matters that much	22:12
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stickster	herlo: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/fprint/	22:12
stickster	Anything else you need besides those?	22:12
herlo	moixs: any suggestions for doing that? I could use mencoder to rip it out I suppose and splice it back together gstreamer	22:12
* herlo looks at what stickster linked		22:12
herlo	stickster: yeah, we need a pop-up that prompts for password / fingerprint	22:13
themayor	aside from that we have the actual Fedora 11 Tour Page	22:13
themayor	take a look here	22:13
themayor	Fedora_11_tour	22:13
stickster	herlo: Ah, OK	22:13
moixs	herlo: no idea, but any video editing applications could be used to cut a piece out. I just don't know any :p	22:13
themayor	i sent out an email about this to the list last week and no one responded	22:14
herlo	moixs: I'll look around. I'm trying to get the Media printed this week so we'll see what kind of time I have	22:14
moixs	herlo: I'll have a look at it	22:14
stickster	herlo: You mean the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog?	22:14
themayor	we should have that page up and running for release day, so its best to start work on it now	22:14
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themayor	i need help with it	22:14
herlo	stickster: that'd work, or running an app that needs root privileges	22:14
stickster	herlo: wouldn't that require the user registering fingerprints for root?	22:15
* stickster checks to see if PolicyKit works on fprint		22:15
herlo	stickster: dunno, maybe it's not recommended, fprint for screensaver is fine	22:15
herlo	I use fprint for root	22:15
herlo	er thinkfinger	22:15
stickster	Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't	22:15
stickster	but meh	22:16
herlo	well, then it's probably a good idea not to use my suggestion	22:16
herlo	anyway, I'll take your images and make a new section for it on the tour	22:16
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themayor	can someone help me out with the fedora 11 tour page?	22:17
herlo	Fedora_11_tour	22:17
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herlo	themayor: a link? or did you need stuff on there	22:17
themayor	well it needs to be filled in	22:18
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herlo	I can do the boot screencast in there	22:18
themayor	does anyone think they have time to take ownership of that whole thing and bang it out?	22:19
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themayor	okay i guess not	22:20
* themayor adds yet another thing to my list		22:20
themayor	moving on	22:20
themayor	ive pretty much been working on all the content and lead up news thats been going out and will continue to go out	22:21
* spevack shows up late, thinking the meeting wasn't until the next :00. apologies		22:21
themayor	stickster: any idea if we are slipping?	22:21
* themayor waves to spevack		22:21
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spevack	themayor: howdy, sorry i'm late	22:21
themayor	np	22:21
themayor	you havent missed much	22:22
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stickster	themayor: We will be slipping by a week, I just came from a confab with rel-eng and other folks	22:22
themayor	okay nice	22:22
stickster	Well, let me be more precise -- Jesse is checking with FESCo to make sure that rel-eng is the one who announces that.	22:22
themayor	so therefore, i dont need to put out two interviews on thursday	22:22
stickster	If not, FESCo will need to consider it.	22:22
themayor	ah so its not 100% yet	22:23
stickster	rel-eng and QA and everyone else in the meeting was agreed.	22:23
stickster	So I don't foresee a big conflict about it, just that it needs to be ratified properly.	22:23
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themayor	ah okay	22:23
themayor	alright so the schedule is like this	22:23
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themayor	for thursday, im am going to print the virt interview with danpb	22:23
themayor	i have asked josh boyer to see if he wants to conduct a podcast on mingw	22:24
themayor	if so, that could go out next week	22:24
themayor	oh also, i have the podcast with j5 on fedora community	22:24
herlo	themayor: Fedora Classroom has some good irc sessions on MingW from April iirc	22:25
stickster	Josh Boyer and MinGW?	22:25
herlo	that could be a useful link if you want to add it	22:25
themayor	huh?	22:25
herlo	themayor: Using_the_Windows_cross-compiler_Classroom_(20090308)	22:25
themayor	er, presto	22:25
themayor	sorry	22:26
themayor	my head is in the air	22:26
herlo	ahh, nm	22:26
themayor	i was thinking to figure out if i could get someone to do something on mingw	22:26
herlo	themayor: I'm sure Richard would be willing	22:26
themayor	yeah we already did one podcast with him though	22:27
herlo	ahh	22:27
stickster	Richard Jones?	22:27
themayor	its richard jones?	22:27
herlo	stickster: yeah I believe so	22:27
herlo	rwmjones	22:28
herlo	Using the Windows cross-compiler - Richard Jones	22:28
herlo	this is all from Fedora Classroom wiki page	22:28
herlo	Classroom#Classroom_Archive	22:28
spevack	Richard's going to give a talk on MinGW stuff at FUDCon Berlin, too.	22:28
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herlo	w00t!	22:28
themayor	ah sorry wrong richard	22:28
themayor	i thought it was richard hughes for some reason, wow im really messed up today	22:29
themayor	lack of sleep	22:29
themayor	okay so yeah anyway, jboyer to interview seth for presto	22:29
themayor	and i will try and get something with richard jones then	22:29
themayor	and on top of that the volume control interview	22:29
stickster	Yeah, we still don't have anyone else picking that one up, do we?	22:29
themayor	which one?	22:30
themayor	volume control?	22:30
stickster	yes, the volume control feature	22:30
stickster	I think it was still unclaimed on the in-depth feature lsit.	22:30
stickster	*list	22:30
themayor	what do you mean, i did it	22:30
themayor	with lennart	22:30
themayor	we didnt do anything on ext4	22:31
stickster	Oh, I had forgotten that you did the one with Lennart!	22:31
stickster	Excellent.	22:31
themayor	lennart told me if i want audio to ask bastien, but the print stuff is done	22:31
themayor	because apparently lennart has a heavy accent	22:31
stickster	He writes really well, though. :-)	22:31
stickster	Better than a lot of English speakers I know :-)	22:32
themayor	thats why i suggested if anyone in germany or another country would be interested in conducting a podcast in their native tongue	22:32
themayor	ill poke the list about it	22:32
halfline	lennart has a very understandable accent	22:32
themayor	idk either way	22:33
halfline	i think he just used that as an excuse :-)	22:33
themayor	hahaha	22:33
themayor	yeah danpb didnt wanna do audio at all and was like straight up, no	22:33
themayor	lol	22:33
spevack	perhaps lennart is self conscious, but IMHO he does not have a heavy accent. I had a wonderful conversation w/ him at LinuxTag last year	22:34
spevack	but, whatever :)	22:34
themayor	anyway	22:35
themayor	regardless, lets focus on what we can get done	22:35
themayor	i just sent a mail to the list about a foreign language podcast	22:35
themayor	lets see what happens	22:35
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themayor	both those 4 or 5 pieces should get us through next week to release	22:35
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themayor	oh and something about the new virt features in fedora is going on the press blog too, hopefully on thursday	22:36
spevack	did we talk about Fedora_11_tour yet?	22:36
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herlo	spevack: yep	22:36
herlo	spevack: but if you have something to add, I'd love to hear it	22:36
spevack	herlo: nope -- i'll just scrollback and read	22:36
themayor	other than that, we should decide now, what content we want out and to be pointing to on release day	22:37
themayor	ill defer to stickster to see what you think on that one, and then ill take it from there	22:38
stickster	OK, so to answer the question of what to point *to*, I need to know where we're pointing *from*	22:39
stickster	In general, community news outlets we'll want to send a link to the release announcement that is posted on the fedora-announce-list	22:39
stickster	That announcement has all the links to download sites and other important bits.	22:39
themayor	exactly	22:40
stickster	If people are blogging about the release individually, they should probably point to http://get.fedoraproject.org for downloads	22:40
stickster	and http://join.fedoraproject.org for calls to action	22:41
stickster	***Important note:	22:41
themayor	okay so lets see whats going on with the release announcement	22:41
themayor	yeah go ahrad	22:41
stickster	Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Static_.2F_cached_urls	22:42
stickster	That link contains a list of static/cached URLs run by the Infrastructure team	22:42
stickster	If you're sending something to a place that might get us slashdotted, make sure you are using only URLs on that list	22:42
themayor	okay so we should add the tour there	22:42
stickster	themayor: hang on, I was getting to that	22:42
stickster	If you need to add a wiki page,	22:42
themayor	okay sorry to interrupt	22:43
stickster	The wiki is cached on release day	22:43
stickster	make sure you use the *http://* URL	22:43
stickster	*NOT* the *https://* URL	22:43
stickster	Otherwise you force the servers to go through a bunch of auth stuff	22:43
stickster	the plain HTTP version is cached and should be fast enough to handle heavy load.	22:43
spevack	stickster: very good, important tip	22:44
herlo	Fedora_11_tour now has the new charge plymouth bootup screencast...	22:44
stickster	OK, sorry that was a little on the propellerhead side.	22:44
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stickster	But anyway.	22:45
stickster	themayor: Were there other areas where people will be putting up info that I didn't cover?	22:45
stickster	themayor: Oh, I remember the other thing I wanted to add	22:45
stickster	themayor: Does the NDN already have a coverage plan for Digg, Reddit, etc.?	22:45
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themayor	moixs: ?	22:46
themayor	all i know is that ive been submitting to digg	22:46
themayor	and what do you mean by coverage plan	22:46
themayor	meaning who will submit to them?	22:46
stickster	Exactly.	22:46
moixs	As usual, it's the responsibility of the people in their respective languages	22:46
moixs	that is, themayor :D	22:46
themayor	yeah i got english	22:47
stickster	Okey dokey	22:47
themayor	so if there are other sites in english you want submitted other than slashdot, digg, reddit, newsvine, etc and whatevers on the list	22:47
themayor	those are mine	22:47
stickster	themayor: OK, do you have a URL to that list handy?	22:48
themayor	anything else, you can add to the list or email	22:48
themayor	its linked off the ndn page	22:48
themayor	one sec	22:48
stickster	Oh never mind, AwesomeBar to the rescue	22:48
themayor	awesomebar?	22:49
themayor	the ff3 address bar	22:50
stickster	yup. Go ahead, I got it	22:50
moixs	Marketing_press_publications	22:50
themayor	i should add some stuff to the list	22:51
themayor	ill do that today	22:51
stickster	themayor: I don't see digg, reddit, etc. there	22:51
stickster	Ah, OK	22:51
* stickster catches up		22:51
themayor	i want to finish the virt thing so caroline can take a look at it	22:51
themayor	yeah i usually do digg, slashdot, reddit, propellerhead, newsvine, shoutwire and a few others	22:52
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themayor	ill add everything to the list today to make sure its official	22:52
stickster	Sweet	22:53
themayor	other than that, we need to make sure all the links get into the release announcement	22:53
themayor	i just emailed sparks and the list asking for progress	22:53
themayor	because not much was done yet	22:54
stickster	themayor: They were speaking about it in #fedora-docs earlier	22:54
themayor	stickster: we are going to be translating that, right? not rh press people, correct>?	22:54
stickster	themayor: Each locale can produce its own topside content for that announcement.	22:54
themayor	ah okay, as long as thats cool	22:55
stickster	The bottomside content in the announcement is pretty cut and dried and can be translated easily. For example, "To download, visit: <URL>"	22:55
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themayor	yup	22:56
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themayor	alright, so maybe moixs, can we get pages for each language of the ndn where they can write their own stuff on?	22:56
moixs	What do you mean by "get"?	22:57
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themayor	can we create	22:57
moixs	Edit the wiki the way you want, but one page per language for the announcement seems reasonable	22:57
moixs	yeah sure	22:57
themayor	okay do you have time to do it?	22:57
moixs	It should take no longer than 2 minutes to create empty pages, so yes	22:58
themayor	okay awesome	22:59
stickster	themayor: moixs: Releases/Announcements	22:59
stickster	Just pointing that out	22:59
moixs	Fedora_press_archive#Fedora_Press_Releases	23:00
moixs	Should we add them there?	23:00
moixs	(yes, i just discovered this section)	23:00
themayor	yeah release announcement sounds better	23:00
themayor	lets do that and work from there	23:00
themayor	if you send me a link, i can send it to the list notifying people that its there and they can use it	23:01
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moixs	Wasn't there a page for the english one already?	23:02
themayor	yes	23:02
* moixs is lost in links		23:02
themayor	http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Announcement_for_F11	23:02
moixs	Good, I'm going to set up the pages for the other languages	23:03
moixs	Then, the translation teams need to update them	23:04
themayor	alright, so other than that, i think we are good through next week where we can bring up release day stuff again and finalize our plan	23:04
themayor	sound like a plan?	23:04
herlo	ya	23:05
themayor	stickster, spevack anything to add?	23:05
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stickster	themayor: No, just that you and Sparks share the ball for the release announcement	23:06
ianweller	oh my, a marketing meeting that i totally just missed	23:07
themayor	stickster: oy vey!	23:08
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stickster	ianweller: We assigned everything to you, don't worry about it.	23:08
ianweller	stickster: thanks.	23:09
themayor	thats rough	23:09
stickster	hee hee	23:09
ianweller	:D	23:09
themayor	anyway lets call it a meeting	23:09