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= FESCo meeting process =
= FESCo meeting process =


This guide explains how to manage and run a FESCo IRC meeting. Many of the steps here could well apply to other groups that hold regular IRC meetings as well.  
This guide explains how to manage and run a FESCo Matrix meeting. Many of the steps here could well apply to other groups that hold regular meetings on Matrix as well.  


== Pre-meeting ==
== Pre-meeting ==


1 "business day" before the meeting is scheduled, do the following tasks: (So, Friday if meetings are Monday, etc)
One day before the Tuesday meeting, do the following tasks:


1. First check the trac ticket items that have the 'meeting' keyword:  
1. First, check for any open issues:


<pre>
https://pagure.io/fesco/issues
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
 
</pre>
2. For each issue:
* Make sure to check with and invite stakeholders who may not aware of the issue. In case an already-closed ticket was reopened or a repeat vote is proposed, make sure to include people who participated in the previous round.
* Consider deferring issues where stakeholders have not had adequate notice or are not available for discussion.
* When an issue should be discussed in the meeting, click on 'Edit Metadata' and add the `meeting` tag. Please note that only members of [https://pagure.io/group/fesco fesco] group on pagure can add the `meeting` tag.
* When an issue is older than a week and was already voted upon by enough FESCo members, close it appropriately and remember it for the digest section in the meeting announcement.
 
3. Also check for tickets that were closed after last meeting with an in-ticket vote to mention them in the respective section
 
4. You may want to ping the Change Wrangler to ask if there are any new Changes to discuss
 
5. Go through the report of `meeting` issues, adding a comment that "This issue will be discussed at the next meeting on …" to each one, and then add them to a copy of the template below:
 
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
 
6. Generate an email to the devel@lists.fedoraproject.org list with the following template:
 
{{#tag:pre|
Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting ({{#time:Y-m-d|tuesday}})
}}
 
{{#tag:pre|
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org
on Matrix.
 
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
 
or run:
  date -d '{{#time:Y-m-d|tuesday}} 17:00 UTC'


2. You may want to ping the Feature Wrangler to ask if there are any new features to discuss.  
Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


3. Generate an email to the devel@lists.fedoraproject.org list with the following template:
= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
<pre>
Subject: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD)
</pre>
(Replace "Monday's" with the day of week for the meeting)
<pre>
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Monday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.


Links to all tickets below can be found at:
Title of issue
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/###
DECISION (+X, Y, -Z)


= Followups =
= Followups =


#topic #NNN Title of ticket
#NNN Title of issue
.fesco NNN
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/NNN


= New business =
= New business =


#topic #NNN Title of ticket
#NNN Title of issue
.fesco NNN
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/NNN


= Open Floor =  
= Open Floor =  


For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
For more complete details, please visit each individual
report of the agenda items can be found at
issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
the following meeting.  
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.  
</pre>
}}


Replace NNN with the ticket numbers and add in Title of tickets.
Replace NNN with the issue numbers and add in Title of issues.




Sample:  
Sample:  
<pre>
Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-01-15)


Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Monday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org on Matrix.


<pre>
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
Subject: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-01-23)
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto


Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
or run:
meeting Monday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
  date -d '2021-06-21 17:00 UTC'
irc.freenode.net.


Links to all tickets below can be found at:  
Links to all issues below can be found at:  
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


= Followups =
= Followups =


#topic sponsor request - sdake
#724 sponsor request - sdake
.fesco 724
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/724
 
#1221 Working Group Status Reports
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1221


= New business =
= New business =


#topic F17 Feature: DIET - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F17_DIET
#751 F17 Feature: DIET - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F17_DIET
.fesco 751
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/751


#topic F17 Feature: Rework Live CD - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/ReworkLiveCD
#752 F17 Feature: Rework Live CD - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/ReworkLiveCD
.fesco 752
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/752


#topic F17 Feature: ABRT Backtrace Deduplication - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRTBacktraceDeduplication
#754 F17 Feature: ABRT Backtrace Deduplication - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRTBacktraceDeduplication
.fesco 754
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/754


#topic F17 Feature: Font Configuration Tool - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FontConfigurationTool
#755 F17 Feature: Font Configuration Tool - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FontConfigurationTool
.fesco 755
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/755


#topic F17 Feature: English Typing Booster - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/english-typing-booster
#756 F17 Feature: English Typing Booster - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/english-typing-booster
.fesco 756
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/756


= Open Floor =  
= Open Floor =  


For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
For more complete details, please visit each individual issue.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
this e-mail, file a new issue at https://pagure.io/fesco/,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
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== Day of meeting ==  
== Day of meeting ==  


1. Send out a reminder IRC message a bit before the meeting to the #fedora-devel IRC channel.  
1. Send out a reminder Matrix message a bit before the meeting to the [https://matrix.to/#/#devel:fedoraproject.org #devel:fedoraproject.org Matrix room].  


2. Generate a text file from the following template:  
2. Generate a text file from the following template:  
 
{{#tag:pre|
<pre>
!startmeeting FESCO ({{#time:Y-m-d|tuesday}})
#startmeeting FESCO (YYYY-MM-DD)
!meetingname fesco
#meetingname fesco
Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im, @sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im, @decathorpe:fedora.im, @salimma:fedora.im
#chair notting nirik mjg59 mmaslano t8m pjones sgallagh mitr limburgher
!topic Init Process
#topic init process
!topic #NNNN TICKET TITLE
#topic #NNN TICKET TITLE
!fesco NNNN
!agreed DECISION (+X, Y, -Z)
...
...
#topic Next week's chair
!topic Next week's chair
#topic Open Floor
!action NAME will chair next meeting
#endmeeting
!topic Open Floor
</pre>
!endmeeting
}}


You can copy and paste in lines from this file as the meeting progresses.  
You can copy and paste in lines from this file as the meeting progresses.
 
3. Start an email replying to the agenda post. Rename the subject to: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (YYYY-MM-DD)
 
4. Also, CC: meetingminutes@lists.fedoraproject.org


== Meeting time ==
== Meeting time ==
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2. Wait a few for people to show up. Confirm there are at least (5) voting members present for Quorum. If not, cancel meeting.  
2. Wait a few for people to show up. Confirm there are at least (5) voting members present for Quorum. If not, cancel meeting.  


3. Go through each topic. Watch time on each and if 15minutes are reached, ask if people want to keep discussing that topic or move on.  
3. Go through each topic. Watch time on each and if 15 minutes are reached, one of the following actions may be taken:
 
* If there is a vote to continue, then discussion continues for an additional 15 minutes.
 
* If there is no vote to continue the discussion after the initial 15 minutes, ask those members who are discussing the issue to clearly write up their thoughts and position on a wiki page for consideration at the next meeting. Each view point can list their thoughts as a separate proposal, or work off-line with others, to come up with a single proposal acceptable to them all. The wiki page is used in the next meeting to guide discussions and voting.


== Post meeting ==
== Post meeting ==


1. When #endmeeting runs it displays links for the logs. Use the .txt and then .log.txt files in your email created above. Send out right after meeting. (If you wait, it's very easy to forget). (Make sure and CC: meetingminutes@lists.fedoraproject.org too) 
1. When !endmeeting runs it displays links for the logs. Use the .txt and then .log.txt files to send an e-mail as a reply to the meeting schedule e-mail.
The subject should be:


The subject should be:
{{#tag:pre|Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting ({{#time:Y-m-d|tuesday}})
}}


<pre>
Send the e-mail right after the meeting to not forget it.
Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD)
</pre>


2. Process through tickets. Any approved features can be closed with a note that they were approved.
2. Process through tickets comment/close them as appropriate.


[[Category:FESCo]] [[Category:FESCo policy]]
[[Category:FESCo]] [[Category:FESCo policy]]

Latest revision as of 09:36, 25 June 2024

FESCo meeting process

This guide explains how to manage and run a FESCo Matrix meeting. Many of the steps here could well apply to other groups that hold regular meetings on Matrix as well.

Pre-meeting

One day before the Tuesday meeting, do the following tasks:

1. First, check for any open issues:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issues

2. For each issue:

  • Make sure to check with and invite stakeholders who may not aware of the issue. In case an already-closed ticket was reopened or a repeat vote is proposed, make sure to include people who participated in the previous round.
  • Consider deferring issues where stakeholders have not had adequate notice or are not available for discussion.
  • When an issue should be discussed in the meeting, click on 'Edit Metadata' and add the meeting tag. Please note that only members of fesco group on pagure can add the meeting tag.
  • When an issue is older than a week and was already voted upon by enough FESCo members, close it appropriately and remember it for the digest section in the meeting announcement.

3. Also check for tickets that were closed after last meeting with an in-ticket vote to mention them in the respective section

4. You may want to ping the Change Wrangler to ask if there are any new Changes to discuss

5. Go through the report of meeting issues, adding a comment that "This issue will be discussed at the next meeting on …" to each one, and then add them to a copy of the template below:

https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

6. Generate an email to the devel@lists.fedoraproject.org list with the following template: 

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-12-31)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org
on Matrix.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2024-12-31 17:00 UTC'

Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at: 
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

Title of issue
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/###
DECISION (+X, Y, -Z)

= Followups =

#NNN Title of issue
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/NNN

= New business =

#NNN Title of issue
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/NNN

= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

Replace NNN with the issue numbers and add in Title of issues.


Sample: 

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-01-15)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Monday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org on Matrix.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2021-06-21 17:00 UTC'

Links to all issues below can be found at: 
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

= Followups =

#724 sponsor request - sdake
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/724

#1221 Working Group Status Reports
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1221

= New business =

#751 F17 Feature: DIET - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F17_DIET
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/751

#752 F17 Feature: Rework Live CD - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/ReworkLiveCD
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/752

#754 F17 Feature: ABRT Backtrace Deduplication - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ABRTBacktraceDeduplication
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/754

#755 F17 Feature: Font Configuration Tool - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FontConfigurationTool
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/755

#756 F17 Feature: English Typing Booster - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/english-typing-booster
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/756

= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual issue.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new issue at https://pagure.io/fesco/,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.

Day of meeting

1. Send out a reminder Matrix message a bit before the meeting to the #devel:fedoraproject.org Matrix room.

2. Generate a text file from the following template: 

!startmeeting FESCO (2024-12-31)
!meetingname fesco
Chairs: @conan_kudo:matrix.org, @ngompa:fedora.im, @nirik:matrix.scrye.com, @humaton:fedora.im, @zbyszek:fedora.im, @sgallagh:fedora.im, @jistone:fedora.im, @dcantrell:fedora.im, @decathorpe:fedora.im, @salimma:fedora.im
!topic Init Process
!topic #NNNN TICKET TITLE
!fesco NNNN
!agreed DECISION (+X, Y, -Z)
...
!topic Next week's chair
!action NAME will chair next meeting
!topic Open Floor
!endmeeting

You can copy and paste in lines from this file as the meeting progresses.

Meeting time

1. Use the lines up to 'init process' to start the meeting.

2. Wait a few for people to show up. Confirm there are at least (5) voting members present for Quorum. If not, cancel meeting.

3. Go through each topic. Watch time on each and if 15 minutes are reached, one of the following actions may be taken:

  • If there is a vote to continue, then discussion continues for an additional 15 minutes.
  • If there is no vote to continue the discussion after the initial 15 minutes, ask those members who are discussing the issue to clearly write up their thoughts and position on a wiki page for consideration at the next meeting. Each view point can list their thoughts as a separate proposal, or work off-line with others, to come up with a single proposal acceptable to them all. The wiki page is used in the next meeting to guide discussions and voting.

Post meeting

1. When !endmeeting runs it displays links for the logs. Use the .txt and then .log.txt files to send an e-mail as a reply to the meeting schedule e-mail. The subject should be: 

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-12-31)

Send the e-mail right after the meeting to not forget it.

2. Process through tickets comment/close them as appropriate.

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