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| Create Installable Images for QA testing #1 || 2010-07-08 || | | Create Installable Images for QA testing #1 || 2010-07-08 || | ||
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* Send a reminder to devel-announce to have packages in ''rawhide'' for upcoming compose | * Send a reminder to devel-announce to have packages in ''rawhide'' for upcoming compose | ||
* Build up the Release Engineering team so that alternate team members can compose releases | * Build up the Release Engineering team so that alternate team members can compose releases | ||
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* Added specific tasks to the development schedule reminding of need for latest installter build | |||
* Continue deepening Release Engineering SOPs | |||
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| Create Installable Images for QA testing #3 || 2010-07-22 || | | Create Installable Images for QA testing #3 || 2010-07-22 || | ||
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* Urge the glibc folks to communicate better when they are going to make disruptive changes like requiring a much newer kernel. | * Urge the glibc folks to communicate better when they are going to make disruptive changes like requiring a much newer kernel. | ||
* Enhance QA and Release Engineering tools to automatically discover breakages like this in advance--prior to the actual compose. | * Enhance QA and Release Engineering tools to automatically discover breakages like this in advance--prior to the actual compose. | ||
|| Keep in mind for the future. | |||
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| Fedora 14 Blocker Meetings are already taking a minimum of an hour || 2010-07-24 || | | Fedora 14 Blocker Meetings are already taking a minimum of an hour || 2010-07-24 || | ||
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** stream audio to the web | ** stream audio to the web | ||
** people without the ability to connect to Fedora Talk can listen to web stream and respond in IRC | ** people without the ability to connect to Fedora Talk can listen to web stream and respond in IRC | ||
|| Continue to look for ways to streamline meetings. By the end of the release cycle the current approach seemed to still be the best, though not perfect. | |||
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| Branch Fedora 14 || 2010-07-27 || | | Branch Fedora 14 || 2010-07-27 || | ||
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* Assume that branching takes more than one day? | * Assume that branching takes more than one day? | ||
|| Keep an eye to see if this a reoccurring problem in Fedora 15 | |||
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|| Fedora 14 Alpha Test Compose || 2010-07-29 || | || Fedora 14 Alpha Test Compose || 2010-07-29 || | ||
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* Could we do any sanity testing before publishing images to make sure they boot to save bandwidth and turn around time? In the case of Test Compose #1 it fell over right way. | * Could we do any sanity testing before publishing images to make sure they boot to save bandwidth and turn around time? In the case of Test Compose #1 it fell over right way. | ||
* Kevin Kofler suggests it may ultimately have worked out better simply to delay the Alpha freeze and leave dist-f14 tag open until the major problems were resolved | * Kevin Kofler suggests it may ultimately have worked out better simply to delay the Alpha freeze and leave dist-f14 tag open until the major problems were resolved | ||
|| We don't see any specific actions that can be taken at this time. Hopefully good lessons were learned from this experience so that they are not repeated. | |||
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|| Feature Submission Deadline || 2010-07-13 || | || Feature Submission Deadline || 2010-07-13 || | ||
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* Seems that spin deadline could be later, there is so much other stuff eg even the main Fedora gnome/kde spins to test. (The current spins wrangler disagrees.) | * Seems that spin deadline could be later, there is so much other stuff eg even the main Fedora gnome/kde spins to test. (The current spins wrangler disagrees.) | ||
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* Concentrate on one spin successful booting | * Concentrate on one spin successful booting (what does this mean? [[User:Poelstra|poelcat]] 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC)) | ||
* Set a slightly or much later spin completion date | * Set a slightly or much later spin completion date (what completion date? [[User:Poelstra|poelcat]] 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC)) | ||
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* TBD | |||
* Need more information from Spins SIG to clarify above questions and also need to know how they would like the schedule to be set for Fedora 15 | |||
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|| Nightly Spin composes || 2010-07-* || | || Nightly Spin composes || 2010-07-* || | ||
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* Get features that impact lots of other packages (or testing thereof) in well before the deadline. | * Get features that impact lots of other packages (or testing thereof) in well before the deadline. | ||
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* Discuss with FESCo to see if there is anything that could be pursued here. | |||
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|| Nightly Spin ISOs for Alpha || 2010-08-24 || | || Nightly Spin ISOs for Alpha || 2010-08-24 || | ||
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* Don't let updates with dependency issues into stable. | * Don't let updates with dependency issues into stable. | ||
|| Investigate current policy around dependency issues in stable and discuss policy changes (if applicable) with FESCo. | |||
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|| Notify mirrors about new release content || 2010-08-23 || | || Notify mirrors about new release content || 2010-08-23 || | ||
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* Include a task on the schedule going forward to include making this announcement. | * Include a task on the schedule going forward to include making this announcement. | ||
* Include the actual procedure in the automatically filed rel-eng Trac ticket for releases. | * Include the actual procedure in the automatically filed rel-eng Trac ticket for releases. | ||
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* Update schedule to include announcment on Friday following, Thursday "sync to mirrors." | |||
* Coordinate writing of SOP with Release Engineering | |||
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|| Web content change for F14 Alpha || 2010-08-24 || | || Web content change for F14 Alpha || 2010-08-24 || | ||
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* [[Fedora Websites Release SOP]] should include info on naming, preferably point to the Release Engineering SOP for creating the ISOs we ship | * [[Fedora Websites Release SOP]] should include info on naming, preferably point to the Release Engineering SOP for creating the ISOs we ship | ||
* Release Engineering needs an SOP for creating the content (including standard naming) | * Release Engineering needs an SOP for creating the content (including standard naming) | ||
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* Work with Websites team to clarify SOP | |||
* Work with Release Engineering team to create SOP | |||
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|| Meeting times || 2010-08-31 || | || Meeting times || 2010-08-31 || | ||
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* If possible include the time of meetings in the ical schedule - so they appear at right time/date in calendars. | * If possible include the time of meetings in the ical schedule - so they appear at right time/date in calendars. | ||
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* Add UTC time to schedule task descriptions. | |||
* Note: unfortunately there are some bugs in TaskJuggler that make it difficult/impossible to add specific times to the ical file--this is why all ical entries are "full day" events, agree this is not ideal. [[User:Poelstra|poelcat]] 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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| Compose Beta RC || 2010-09-16 || RC compose was not ready until the end of 2010-09-17 because of two un-resolved blocker bugs (anaconda and kernel). Both bugs had been open for several days. || Determine if one week is really enough time from the creation of the ''Test Compose'' and and the compose of the ''Release Candidate''. During this one week period we are supposed to test the Test Compose, identify bugs, and fix all blocker bugs, so the compose of the ''Release Candidate'' can begin. | |||
|| Pulled Test Compose in by two days--instead of starting on Thursday, have Release Engineering create two days earlier (Tuesday). The result is that testing will happen earlier too. [[User:Poelstra|poelcat]] 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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| Building new spin-kickstart packages || 2010-10-12 || With the new updates policy we can't get the updated package into stable on freeze day unless we have more lead time. || Since there is already a plan to do an update if there is any change during the freeze, it isn't a big deal to do the package builds 8 days earlier. The branch before the GA freeze should stay aligned with that package build and also move 8 days earlier. (After looking more closely the spin freeze is 7 days before the final change deadline and maybe we don't need a full 8 days more.) | |||
|| Ask for clarification on spins mailing. It is unclear what the specific changes should be made to the schedule. | |||
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| Testing live spins || 2010-10-22 || While I (bruno) didn't get some stuff done in time this time around, trying to go through test cases at the RC phase is too late. || If we do spins the same for F15, we need to have the mandatory testing to be done by spin owners sync'd up with the TC phase, so that we have time to react. | |||
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* Need confirmation as to where final spins creation should land on schedule | |||
* Need confirmation/clarification as to whether spins happen for Alpha and Beta and if so what create date should be | |||
* Add explicit task(s) for testing spins to schedule after discussing dates with Spins SIG | |||
* Consider discussion/review at FUDCon | |||
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| Final Release Readiness Meeting || 2010-10-18 || Key team leads did not attend or came very late: Design, Release Engineering, Infrastructure, and Websites. || || Touch base with attendees personally and ask they that send an alternate if they cannot attend. | |||
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| New FI task: Hide -Alpha and -Beta releases || 2010-11-02 || MirrorManager task to hide version-Alpha and -Beta from the mirror lists on release day || || Added an additional Release Engineering ticket to for the final release to: [[Release_Engineering_Release_Tickets#Final]] | |||
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Task | Date | What Happened? | What To Do Differently Next Time? | Actions Taken |
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Create Installable Images for QA testing #1 | 2010-07-08 |
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Create Installable Images for QA testing #3 | 2010-07-22 |
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Keep in mind for the future. |
Fedora 14 Blocker Meetings are already taking a minimum of an hour | 2010-07-24 |
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Continue to look for ways to streamline meetings. By the end of the release cycle the current approach seemed to still be the best, though not perfect. |
Branch Fedora 14 | 2010-07-27 |
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Keep an eye to see if this a reoccurring problem in Fedora 15 |
Fedora 14 Alpha Test Compose | 2010-07-29 |
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We don't see any specific actions that can be taken at this time. Hopefully good lessons were learned from this experience so that they are not repeated. |
Feature Submission Deadline | 2010-07-13 |
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Nightly Spin composes | 2010-07-* |
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Nightly Spin ISOs for Alpha | 2010-08-24 |
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Investigate current policy around dependency issues in stable and discuss policy changes (if applicable) with FESCo. |
Notify mirrors about new release content | 2010-08-23 |
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Web content change for F14 Alpha | 2010-08-24 |
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Meeting times | 2010-08-31 |
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Compose Beta RC | 2010-09-16 | RC compose was not ready until the end of 2010-09-17 because of two un-resolved blocker bugs (anaconda and kernel). Both bugs had been open for several days. | Determine if one week is really enough time from the creation of the Test Compose and and the compose of the Release Candidate. During this one week period we are supposed to test the Test Compose, identify bugs, and fix all blocker bugs, so the compose of the Release Candidate can begin. | Pulled Test Compose in by two days--instead of starting on Thursday, have Release Engineering create two days earlier (Tuesday). The result is that testing will happen earlier too. poelcat 20:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC) |
Building new spin-kickstart packages | 2010-10-12 | With the new updates policy we can't get the updated package into stable on freeze day unless we have more lead time. | Since there is already a plan to do an update if there is any change during the freeze, it isn't a big deal to do the package builds 8 days earlier. The branch before the GA freeze should stay aligned with that package build and also move 8 days earlier. (After looking more closely the spin freeze is 7 days before the final change deadline and maybe we don't need a full 8 days more.) | Ask for clarification on spins mailing. It is unclear what the specific changes should be made to the schedule. |
Testing live spins | 2010-10-22 | While I (bruno) didn't get some stuff done in time this time around, trying to go through test cases at the RC phase is too late. | If we do spins the same for F15, we need to have the mandatory testing to be done by spin owners sync'd up with the TC phase, so that we have time to react. |
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Final Release Readiness Meeting | 2010-10-18 | Key team leads did not attend or came very late: Design, Release Engineering, Infrastructure, and Websites. | Touch base with attendees personally and ask they that send an alternate if they cannot attend. | |
New FI task: Hide -Alpha and -Beta releases | 2010-11-02 | MirrorManager task to hide version-Alpha and -Beta from the mirror lists on release day | Added an additional Release Engineering ticket to for the final release to: Release_Engineering_Release_Tickets#Final |