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== Detailed Description ==
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All llvm sub-projects in Fedora will be updated to version 20.  There will be a soname version change for the llvm libraries, and an llvm19 compat package added to ensure that packages that currently depend on clang and llvm version 19 libraries will continue to work.
Other notable changes:
* '''Install Prefix Changes''' The install prefix for all new  llvm packages will be /usr/lib64/llvm$VERSION/ instead of /usr/.  There will be symlinks for each binary and library added to /usr/ which point to the corresponding binary in /usr/lib64/llvm$VERSION/  The goal of this change is to reduce the differences between the compat and non-compat versions so that it it easier for packages that depend on llvm to switch between the two.
* '''Merging more packages into llvm'''  In Fedora 41, we merged the clang, libomp, compiler-rt, lld, python-lit, and lldb packages into the llvm srpm.  For Fedora 42, we will also be merging llvm-bolt, polly, libcxx, and mlir into the llvm srpm.
=== Planned Schedule ===
Our plan is to push 20.1.0-rc3 into Fedora 42 as a Beta Freeze exception. 
Updates after 20.1.0-rc3 will generally be very small and can be done after the Beta Freeze is over. If we are late packaging releases after 20.1.0-rc3, we will not ask for a Final Freeze exception, unless they contain a fix for a critical release blocking bug.
We are not planning to push 20.1.0-rc1 into rawhide because the library ABI is not stabilized at that point. Typically, the ABI stabilizes after -rc3, but there are no guarantees from upstream about this. Given the history of minimal ABI changes after -rc3, we feel like it's safe to push -rc3 into rawhide and Fedora 42. The worst case scenario would be an ABI change in -rc4 or the final release that would force us to patch LLVM to maintain compatibility with the -rc3 ABI. This scenario would not require rebuilding LLVM library users in Fedora, so it would merely be a self-contained change to LLVM.
==== Important Dates ====
* Jan 31: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc1 in COPR.
* '''''Feb 4: Fedora f42 branches created'''''
* Feb 11: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc2 in COPR.
* '''''Feb 18: Fedora f42 beta freeze
* Feb 25: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc3 in Rawhide and f42 side-tags.
* Feb 25-> Mar 11: Request Beta Freeze Exception and push 20.1.0-rc3 into f42 stable.
* Mar 11: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc4 in Rawhide side-tag.
* Mar 25: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0 in Rawhide and 42 side-tags.
* '''''Apr 1: Fedora f42 final freeze'''''


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New features and bug fixes provided by the latest version of LLVM.


== Scope ==
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** Build and test early release candidates of LLVM 20 in COPR.
** Build and test later release candidates of LLVM 20 in koji.


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** Fix build issues found with LLVM-20 or switch their package to use the llvm19 compat libs. The LLVM team will not block Bodhi updates on dependent packages that fail to build or run with LLVM-20. There should be around 6-8 weeks between when -rc1 lands in the koji side-tag and the Final Freeze for package maintainers to fix issues uncovered with the LLVM-20 update.


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The CI tests for the llvm sub-packages in Fedora will be used to catch regressions that might be potentially introduced by the update to LLVM 20.


== User Experience ==
== User Experience ==
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Packages that depend on one of the llvm packages will need to be updated to work with LLVM20 or will need to switch to using one of the llvm19 compat packages.


== Contingency Plan ==
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== Documentation ==
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N/A (not a System Wide Change)  
LLVM sub-projects in Fedora have been updated to version 20:
 
* llvm (now includes polly, llvm-bolt, libcxx, mlir)
* flang
* libclc
* llvm-test-suite


== Release Notes ==
== Release Notes ==

Latest revision as of 17:03, 12 December 2024


LLVM 20

This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.

Summary

Update all llvm sub-projects in Fedora Linux to version 20.

Owner


Current status

  • Targeted release: Fedora Linux 42
  • Last updated: 2024-12-12
  • Announced
  • [F42 Change Proposal: LLVM 20 (system-wide) Discussion thread]
  • FESCo issue: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>
  • Tracker bug: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>
  • Release notes tracker: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>

Detailed Description

All llvm sub-projects in Fedora will be updated to version 20. There will be a soname version change for the llvm libraries, and an llvm19 compat package added to ensure that packages that currently depend on clang and llvm version 19 libraries will continue to work.

Other notable changes:

  • Install Prefix Changes The install prefix for all new llvm packages will be /usr/lib64/llvm$VERSION/ instead of /usr/. There will be symlinks for each binary and library added to /usr/ which point to the corresponding binary in /usr/lib64/llvm$VERSION/ The goal of this change is to reduce the differences between the compat and non-compat versions so that it it easier for packages that depend on llvm to switch between the two.
  • Merging more packages into llvm In Fedora 41, we merged the clang, libomp, compiler-rt, lld, python-lit, and lldb packages into the llvm srpm. For Fedora 42, we will also be merging llvm-bolt, polly, libcxx, and mlir into the llvm srpm.

Planned Schedule

Our plan is to push 20.1.0-rc3 into Fedora 42 as a Beta Freeze exception. Updates after 20.1.0-rc3 will generally be very small and can be done after the Beta Freeze is over. If we are late packaging releases after 20.1.0-rc3, we will not ask for a Final Freeze exception, unless they contain a fix for a critical release blocking bug.

We are not planning to push 20.1.0-rc1 into rawhide because the library ABI is not stabilized at that point. Typically, the ABI stabilizes after -rc3, but there are no guarantees from upstream about this. Given the history of minimal ABI changes after -rc3, we feel like it's safe to push -rc3 into rawhide and Fedora 42. The worst case scenario would be an ABI change in -rc4 or the final release that would force us to patch LLVM to maintain compatibility with the -rc3 ABI. This scenario would not require rebuilding LLVM library users in Fedora, so it would merely be a self-contained change to LLVM.

Important Dates

  • Jan 31: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc1 in COPR.
  • Feb 4: Fedora f42 branches created
  • Feb 11: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc2 in COPR.
  • Feb 18: Fedora f42 beta freeze
  • Feb 25: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc3 in Rawhide and f42 side-tags.
  • Feb 25-> Mar 11: Request Beta Freeze Exception and push 20.1.0-rc3 into f42 stable.
  • Mar 11: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0-rc4 in Rawhide side-tag.
  • Mar 25: Begin building LLVM 20.1.0 in Rawhide and 42 side-tags.
  • Apr 1: Fedora f42 final freeze

Feedback

Benefit to Fedora

New features and bug fixes provided by the latest version of LLVM.

Scope

  • Proposal owners:
    • Build and test early release candidates of LLVM 20 in COPR.
    • Build and test later release candidates of LLVM 20 in koji.
  • Other developers:
    • Fix build issues found with LLVM-20 or switch their package to use the llvm19 compat libs. The LLVM team will not block Bodhi updates on dependent packages that fail to build or run with LLVM-20. There should be around 6-8 weeks between when -rc1 lands in the koji side-tag and the Final Freeze for package maintainers to fix issues uncovered with the LLVM-20 update.
  • Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Alignment with the Fedora Strategy:

Upgrade/compatibility impact

Early Testing (Optional)

Do you require 'QA Blueprint' support? Y/N

How To Test

The CI tests for the llvm sub-packages in Fedora will be used to catch regressions that might be potentially introduced by the update to LLVM 20.

User Experience

Dependencies

Packages that depend on one of the llvm packages will need to be updated to work with LLVM20 or will need to switch to using one of the llvm19 compat packages.

Contingency Plan

  • Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?)If there are major problems with LLVM 20, the compatibility package provide a way for other packages to continue using LLVM 19.
  • Contingency deadline: Final Freeze
  • Blocks release? No

Documentation

LLVM sub-projects in Fedora have been updated to version 20:

  • llvm (now includes polly, llvm-bolt, libcxx, mlir)
  • flang
  • libclc
  • llvm-test-suite

Release Notes