ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-may-19

Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2008-05-19

Open Tickets

• https://fedorahosted.org/projects/rel-eng/ticket/24
• https://fedorahosted.org/projects/rel-eng/ticket/23
• Enable email to Trac Ticket filing aliases - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/198
• Thereafter create a real release engineering mailing list

Miscellaneous

• Figure out a way to use bodhi for tagging for F10
• Perhaps auto-tagging via karma of a non-updates repo with restricted karma ability?
• http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RelengRhel5Migration
• Infrastructure is asking us for an outage window to do an fsck of /mnt/koji file store
• Do it this weekend starting Friday evening or Saturday morning
• Estimated to run for 22 hours

IRC Transcript

-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Release Engineering Meeting - Roll Call		13:14
f13	ping: notting wwoods jeremy spot warren rdieter lmacken jwb poelcat	13:15
jwb	missing today	13:15
warren	hi	13:15
* notting is here		13:15
* jeremy		13:15
rdieter	here	13:15
f13	ok.  Lets look at our open milestones first	13:17
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - tickets		13:17
* spot is here		13:17
f13	.rel 24	13:17
zodbot	f13: #24 (spins for Fedora 9) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/rel-eng/ticket/24	13:17
* poelcat here		13:17
f13	THis is the ticket to create the custom spins for F9.  It's assigned to jwb now, since he did them before	13:18
f13	but since he's missing today's meeting we can skip that.	13:18
jwb	i'll do them when we have something decided on which to spin...	13:18
f13	However we do need to come up with some written expectations as to custom spins for F10	13:18
jwb	yeah, that	13:18
notting	i'm concerned about 'haven't received updates but should work the same'	13:18
jeremy	especially as I know for a *fact* that FEL won't just work the same	13:18
jeremy	hence why chitlesh had explicitly asked for it to not be done for f9	13:19
f13	notting: right.  I'm thinking that if the spin owner hasn't demonstrated that their spin still works and hasn't done any QA on it, we shouldn't push it.	13:19
f13	no filled in test matrix, no cookie.	13:19
rdieter	agreed.	13:20
jeremy	+1	13:20
notting	+1	13:20
notting	are the spin owners noted somewhere?	13:20
jeremy	for the few we have, I can note it off the top of my head and then we can note it somewhere :)	13:20
f13	realistically this is a requirement we should deliver to the Spins SIG	13:21
f13	and I think we can safely nominate jwb to be our representation there.  (especially because he'd not here right now)	13:21
jeremy	haha	13:21
notting	even so, any spins we make based on this ticket are only beta spins at first, correct?	13:21
jeremy	notting: that's what I remember of the approved process	13:22
jwb	f13, that's fine.  though i'll note i'll be pretty much "gone" end of may/beginning of june due to moving	13:22
jwb	notting, yes	13:22
f13	alright, I think we can move on from this one.	13:25
f13	.rel 23	13:25
zodbot	f13: #23 (Fedora 10 Naming) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/projects/rel-eng/ticket/23">https://fedorahosted.org/projects/rel-eng/ticket/23	13:25
f13	whoops, another jwb item (:	13:26
jwb	i'll send an email for that on wed	13:26
jwb	any other questions there?	13:26
jeremy	nope	13:27
f13	don't think so.	13:27
jwb	k	13:27
* jwb goes back to not being here		13:27
f13	That reaches the end of our open tickets (:	13:27
f13	We do however have a F10 milestone that I'll be adding tickets to over time, and I encourage other people to add tickets to it as well	13:27
f13	having tickets for our tasks does help with overall visibility and making sure nothing slips through the cracks.	13:28
f13	Also, I've packaged up and submitted for review an application that will allow us to take email in and have them converted to Trac tickets.	13:28
f13	this will allow tag requests and whatnot to become tickets, which will help again with making sure things don't get lost.	13:28
f13	.ticket 198	13:28
zodbot	f13: #198 (Enable email to Trac Ticket filing aliases) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/198	13:28
f13	that's the Infrastructure ticket concerning this effort.	13:29
f13	at the time we enable email -> trac, I want to create a real releng mailing list, since we can now do hosted mailing lists	13:29
f13	move discussion to the public list, and get rid of the alias which is difficult to maintain and archive	13:29
f13	Does anybody see a problem with going this route?	13:30
notting	sounds good. is it possible to close the same tickets via e-mail?	13:31
f13	theoretically you can, if you add some extra junk to your subject line	13:31
f13	you can certainly update the ticket via email, it reads the re: [number]	13:31
rdieter	f13: no problems, me likey.	13:31
jeremy	f13: I want to figure out how we can use bodhi for tagging for f10...	13:32
f13	jeremy: yeah, that's also a useful avenue to persue	13:33
* jeremy looks at lmacken		13:33
f13	anything further on tickets?  (I'm going to run through relevant open tickets at each meeting too, again visiblity)	13:35
notting	jeremy: hm, so auto-tagging via karma of a non-updates repo with restricted karma ability?	13:35
jeremy	notting: that seems like a more "right" answer.  or hell, even let people add karma and comments.  then we have a better idea if the package actually works	13:36
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - open floor		13:37
f13	I don't have any other topics for today's meeting.  I'm still in post-f9 recovery mode and concentrating on some other things.	13:37
notting	f13: releng migration status? anything you need an assist with?	13:38
f13	ah good topic	13:38
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: fedora releng - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RelengRhel5Migration		13:38
f13	I've done a some work, as noted in the ticket.  THe work left to be done involves bodhi, which is luke's domain	13:39
notting	f13: is the mockified buildrawhide in git now the actual one being used? :)	13:39
f13	notting: it will be when we start composing from rhel5releng	13:39
notting	f13: so, the repodiff usage in current rawhide is still based off the old code?	13:40
f13	notting: correct, I hand edited the buildrawhide on releng1 to switch over to repodiff	13:41
f13	since treediff was failing repeatedly	13:41
jeremy	anything else?	13:44
f13	not with releng2, just got to get luke to test/verify his stuff and then schedule a time for the cutover.	13:44
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: fedora releng - fsck outage		13:45
f13	Infrastructure is asking us for an outage window to do an fsck of /mnt/koji filestore	13:45
f13	testing has shown that it takes roughly 22 hours to do the fsck.  I've initially given the suggestion of memorial day weekend, starting Friday evening or saturday morning	13:45
jwb	that sounds sane	13:46
jeremy	sounds good to me	13:46
f13	I think that's this weekend.	13:46
jeremy	it is!	13:46
notting	wfm	13:47
f13	ok.	13:48
f13	I'll let infra now that we all signed off on it.	13:48
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: fedora releng - open floor (again)		13:48
f13	If there are no topics in 2 minutes...	13:48
wwoods	jeremy: so if we can't change that behavior somehow, then there's no way of doing preupgrade without network connectivity	13:51
f13	Thanks all.	13:52
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule		13:52

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