BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Mar-10

Attendees

• tk009
• jds2001
• iarlyy
• mcepl
• poelcat (meeting lead)
• wwoods
• JStizzle
• John5342
• jamundso
• adamw

Previous Meeting and Mailing list Follow-up

• SOP (Introduction Email) - It was decided by vote that newly applying BugZappers will be required to send an introduction email to the fedora-test-list to before acceptance into the "fedorabugs" group.

• Wiki Front Page drafts - After discussion, the decision currently is to use User:Tk009/bugzappers (with modification) as the starting point for updating the wiki. However, adamw has created a draft as well here: User:Adamwill/Draft_Bugzappers, that will need to be reviewed before any final decision.

• Wiki tracking draft - here : BugZappers/Tracking - There was full agreement on the combining of the Active Triagers and components wiki pages. Per the discussion in IRC and the mailing list, all information not explicitly related to Active Triagers or components on this page will be removed and recreate on separate pages. Discussion then moved to the page name and concern that in might be confusing, however no decision on a name change was reached during the meeting.

New Items

• bugbot - bugbot has now been added to #fedora-bugzappers. Thank you mkanat.

• Blocker Bugs - Reminder to be vigilant for blocker bugs and add them to the blocker list here: BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers, in accordance with the policy here: QA/ReleaseCriteria.

• Bug Blocker Day - poelcat will be holding a "Bug Blocker Day" on Monday 2009-03-16, in #fedora-bugzappers. In attendance will be maintainers, Quality Assurance and Release Engineering. The discussion will focus on blocker bugs for the beta. All BugZappers are strongly encouraged to attend.

• Meeting Day and Time - After reviewing the information on Bugzappers_meeting_matrix, the most chosen day and time is 1700UTC on Tuesday's. This time slot is already reserved. End of meeting time prevented further discussion.

Follow-up Actions

• SOP Introduction Email draft - TK009 will create an SOP draft outlining the introduction email procedures and requirements.

• BugBot reference guide - Unassigned - Find a link to, or create a reference guide explaining the capabilities of bugbot.

• Bug Work Flow png - After the meeting John5342 edited the work flow png, it has been reviewed and excepted and will be uploaded later today.

IRC Transcript

---poelcat has changed the topic to: Bug Triage Meeting		Mar 10 11:00
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mcepl	hello	Mar 10 11:00
poelcat	bugzappers unite!	Mar 10 11:00
tk009	=)	Mar 10 11:00
poelcat	mcepl: good afternoon	Mar 10 11:00
mcepl	please, no	Mar 10 11:00
John5342	hi all	Mar 10 11:01
*mcepl got hit by the bad memories of his childhood in the Communist Czechoslovakia		Mar 10 11:01
poelcat	mcepl: sorry about that	Mar 10 11:01
*poelcat thinking more super heros		Mar 10 11:01
iarlyy	hello	Mar 10 11:01
mcepl	poelcat: I thought so	Mar 10 11:01
poelcat	jds2001: still around?	Mar 10 11:02
jamundso	Fedora Twin powers. Form of - a meeting!	Mar 10 11:02
poelcat	are we waiting for anyone else?	Mar 10 11:02
tk009	I do not believe so	Mar 10 11:03
poelcat	let's go	Mar 10 11:03
poelcat	a few news notes to start	Mar 10 11:03
poelcat	we now have bugbot in our channel! Thanks mkanat	Mar 10 11:03
mcepl	I expected hords of newbies ...	Mar 10 11:03
poelcat	does anyone know of a guide that explains what bugbot can do?	Mar 10 11:03
mcepl	yey!!!	Mar 10 11:03
mcepl	poelcat: I got hit with admin privileges, so I will have to probably learn it myself	Mar 10 11:04
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poelcat	okay, i guess we'll learn as we go	Mar 10 11:04
John5342	i havent but just being able to write bug XXXXXX and have a description come up is useful	Mar 10 11:04
poelcat	John5342: i mostly like it for the instant url to click on	Mar 10 11:04
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John5342	exactly	Mar 10 11:04
JStizzle	ohai	Mar 10 11:05
poelcat	next topic.. blocker bugs	Mar 10 11:05
poelcat	JStizzle: hi	Mar 10 11:05
poelcat	BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers	Mar 10 11:05
John5342	maybe mkanat might be able to send us to a tutorial or something	Mar 10 11:05
poelcat	as we triage bugs we want to be on the look out for bugs that could derail the F11 release	Mar 10 11:06
poelcat	bugs that should definitely be fixed before the release go on the 'F11Blocker'	Mar 10 11:06
mcepl	John5342: send /msg to bugbot with list -- that's a list of categories (I believe) and then you can do help <command>	Mar 10 11:06
poelcat	and "nice to have" bugs go on the 'F11Target"	Mar 10 11:06
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poelcat	is everyone familiar with how to tag a particular bug as a blocker or target?	Mar 10 11:07
JStizzle	no	Mar 10 11:07
iarlyy	i'm not	Mar 10 11:07
John5342	just put F11Blocker or similar in the blocks field	Mar 10 11:07
JStizzle	ok.	Mar 10 11:08
mcepl	JStizzle: in the bug form there is a field "Blocking bugs" and there you fill number of blocks which the current bug should block.	Mar 10 11:08
poelcat	you can also use the alias	Mar 10 11:08
mcepl	yeah	Mar 10 11:08
poelcat	QA/ReleaseCriteria provides some guidance on what bugs are considered blockers vs. target	Mar 10 11:08
poelcat	any questions before we move to the main agenda?	Mar 10 11:09
poelcat	thanks to tk009 for putting the agenda and announcement together!	Mar 10 11:09
jds2001	oops	Mar 10 11:09
iarlyy	poelcat: no for me, I will read it after meeting	Mar 10 11:09
poelcat	on a related note I will be organizing a bug blocker day for next monday 2009-03-16	Mar 10 11:10
poelcat	i'm planning to have it on the #fedora-bugzappers channel	Mar 10 11:10
poelcat	i'll invite all the maintainers, QA, releng, etc. to go through all of the blocker bugs for the beta	Mar 10 11:10
wwoods	don't put a bug on F11Blocker unless you think it would actually be worth delaying the release until that bug is fixed	Mar 10 11:10
poelcat	so we have a good idea how we are looking for releasing the beta	Mar 10 11:11
wwoods	but if a bug causes disk corruption, or *widespread* installer failure, or similarly Very Bad Things	Mar 10 11:11
wwoods	then please, put it on there - and as quickly as possible!	Mar 10 11:11
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poelcat	wwoods: thanks i also referred folks to QA/ReleaseCriteria	Mar 10 11:12
poelcat	alright first agenda item is to finalize our process around granting 'fedorabugs' group	Mar 10 11:13
wwoods	indeed, and thanks!	Mar 10 11:13
poelcat	there was mailing list discussion about what to do	Mar 10 11:13
mcepl	and don't hesitate to put something on F11Target -- maintainers will move the bug to Blocker if necessary anyway	Mar 10 11:13
*wwoods re-lurk		Mar 10 11:13
*jds2001 has been behind on f-test reading. what is the issue?		Mar 10 11:14
poelcat	it seemed most (2/3) people responding were in favor of a short email	Mar 10 11:14
poelcat	jds2001: the CLA requirement went away	Mar 10 11:14
tk009	yes the reason for out weight the reasons against (IHMO)	Mar 10 11:15
John5342	apart from wiki access. that still requires CLA	Mar 10 11:15
poelcat	we'd like people to introduce themselves to get 'fedorabugs' group so we can better retain and work with people	Mar 10 11:15
jds2001	sounds reasonable.	Mar 10 11:15
JStizzle	I like that idea	Mar 10 11:16
poelcat	is there anyone here at today's meeting that is against requiring a short intro email along the lines I suggested on f-test-list ?	Mar 10 11:16
*poelcat waits 60 secs		Mar 10 11:17
tk009	stick a fork in that one, its done =)	Mar 10 11:17
poelcat	if you're here, you're a voting member :)	Mar 10 11:18
poelcat	and it appears no voting members have voted no	Mar 10 11:18
poelcat	okay so it has passed	Mar 10 11:18
poelcat	who would like to write the SOP page?	Mar 10 11:18
poelcat	nothing too serious... guessing less than 1/2 a page	Mar 10 11:19
tk009	I can do a draft and let adam fix it	Mar 10 11:19
poelcat	tk009: thank you	Mar 10 11:19
jds2001	porbably won't need fixing, it's pretty simple :	Mar 10 11:19
jds2001	:)	Mar 10 11:19
tk009	to hear you tell it =P	Mar 10 11:19
tk009	you read what I written in the past	Mar 10 11:19
poelcat	speaking of adam, next topic is the wiki front page upgrade	Mar 10 11:19
poelcat	adam is shooting for a draft of it today, but is away for part of the day	Mar 10 11:20
poelcat	so we'll need to check back next week	Mar 10 11:20
tk009	agree, beland isn't here either	Mar 10 11:20
poelcat	was there any other feedback or things people wanted to discuss about it?	Mar 10 11:20
poelcat	i think tk009 is the only one that commented on the mailing list	Mar 10 11:20
*mcepl just notes that our beloved Zimbra finally delivered my novel to fedora-test list		Mar 10 11:20
tk009	everyone please speak your mind on this issue	Mar 10 11:21
tk009	even if you jsut joined the zappers today its your wiki	Mar 10 11:21
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John5342	so far i like tk009s page. just thing responsibility is a strong word though	Mar 10 11:21
mcepl	I like the table, but thought that we should keep it Unix-y ... "one page for one thing", so get rid of the top and bottom sections	Mar 10 11:21
*poelcat likes mcepl's tag line		Mar 10 11:22
bhna	rdieter: last part: http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/07/nodoka-gtk-engine-towards-next-big.html	Mar 10 11:22
*John5342 thought we were talking about front page		Mar 10 11:22
tk009	we are	Mar 10 11:23
tk009	mcepl is ahead of us me thinks	Mar 10 11:23
iarlyy	I found "FixingBugs" in docs pages, I think it's important... explaining close status ( bugzilla )	Mar 10 11:23
iarlyy	add - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/FixingBugs	Mar 10 11:23
tk009	that should be part of the front page iarlyy?	Mar 10 11:23
iarlyy	no	Mar 10 11:23
iarlyy	just a quick lisk or something like that	Mar 10 11:24
iarlyy	**link	Mar 10 11:24
poelcat	i think the question here is should the front page link to lots of things or ONLY the next step someone might want to take?	Mar 10 11:24
tk009	I felt the latter was the best course	Mar 10 11:25
John5342	probably only the next step. thats why i like tk009 one	Mar 10 11:25
poelcat	iarlyy: JStizzle jds2001 any thoughts?	Mar 10 11:26
jds2001	i have to admit im completely lost at this point :(	Mar 10 11:26
poelcat	tk009: do you have the two page links handy?	Mar 10 11:26
iarlyy	no for now.	Mar 10 11:26
JStizzle	poelcat: the latter.	Mar 10 11:26
poelcat	jds2001: some folks would like to rework the front page for bugzappers... two proposals were put forth	Mar 10 11:27
JStizzle	poelcat: it needs better logical order	Mar 10 11:27
John5342	jds2001: User:Beland/BugZappers vs User:Tk009/bugzappers	Mar 10 11:27
JStizzle	poelcat: right now it is overwhelming and confusing and has no logical order.	Mar 10 11:27
dash123	poelcat: i think the wiki should be in a linear fashion, or else the multiple links just get "lost in transition"	Mar 10 11:27
JStizzle	poelcat: I like tk009's best.	Mar 10 11:27
tk009	one thing to think about...	Mar 10 11:28
tk009	beland has done a lot of work on the wiki	Mar 10 11:28
tk009	I want him to keep doing it =)	Mar 10 11:28
JStizzle	tk009: I love how "dedicated group of individuals" just links to the active bugzappers page.. that is perfect and seamless.	Mar 10 11:28
poelcat	are there any element's of beland's page that would be good to integrate?	Mar 10 11:28
jds2001	i like tk009's too - short and sweet.	Mar 10 11:28
dash123	me too	Mar 10 11:29
JStizzle	anything else goes either on "Getting Started" or beyond.	Mar 10 11:29
JStizzle	perfect	Mar 10 11:29
tk009	I thought the wording on belands for responsibilities was better than mine	Mar 10 11:30
tk009	it was shorter, mine might be a little redundant	Mar 10 11:30
jds2001	indeed, it is shorter	Mar 10 11:30
JStizzle	meh.	Mar 10 11:30
John5342	i just think Responsibilities should be Taks or Aims or similar	Mar 10 11:30
JStizzle	tk009: you have a formatting error, but its trivial	Mar 10 11:30
tk009	fix please JS? =)	Mar 10 11:30
JStizzle	ok.	Mar 10 11:31
poelcat	since i like how beland calls out the documentation we have	Mar 10 11:31
JStizzle	tk009: fixed.	Mar 10 11:31
tk009	thank you	Mar 10 11:31
JStizzle	np	Mar 10 11:31
poelcat	but maybe we could link to it vs. listing it all	Mar 10 11:31
mcepl	my vote is tk009+ -- we should keep it short and sweet; see my novel in fedora-test to explain why I think we shouldn't waste that much time with detailed description of what needs to be done	Mar 10 11:31
JStizzle	poelcat: I like the idea of a list there.. we can make it shorter by using beland's list instead.	Mar 10 11:32
iarlyy	i like of tk009's but, i also like of documentation part of beland draft	Mar 10 11:32
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JStizzle	mcepl: your novel hasn't made its way to my zimbras yet ;)	Mar 10 11:32
John5342	i think the more technical pages should be laid out more like belands but tk009 has it right for the front page. keeps it simple and to the point	Mar 10 11:32
iarlyy	an idea, could be merged...	Mar 10 11:32
poelcat	sounds like most people are in agreement about a simple start page and think this flows well from what we discussed last week	Mar 10 11:33
poelcat	in terms of starting with a good front page and then building pages out from there	Mar 10 11:33
poelcat	we can point adam to our discussion here as he seeks to merge the two pages	Mar 10 11:33
JStizzle	tk009: can I put beland's responsibilities on your page under responsibilities to see how it looks?	Mar 10 11:33
adamw	*lurk lurk*	Mar 10 11:33
tk009	of course	Mar 10 11:34
JStizzle	adamw: how's the class going?	Mar 10 11:34
dash123	the links under beland's documentation are quite good i think, the bugzilla primer *should* be there, so maybe that should be integrated into tk009's	Mar 10 11:34
adamw	JStizzle: done for today	Mar 10 11:34
mcepl	tk009: I would put fedora-test list more prominently -- that's the most important what we want from them -- we can pick them on the list and tell them whatever we need to tell them, but they have to come	Mar 10 11:34
iarlyy	example: in tk009's draft haven't any information of our tools	Mar 10 11:34
JStizzle	adamw: what did you learn?	Mar 10 11:34
adamw	let's see...er...i'd never actually looked in my initrd before.	Mar 10 11:34
adamw	aside from that, not much. :)	Mar 10 11:34
poelcat	this is great discussion and thanks for everyone for giving your thoughts!	Mar 10 11:35
jds2001	adamw: lsinitrd ftw :)	Mar 10 11:35
adamw	jds2001: doesn't exist in rhel! gotta learn to use cpio	Mar 10 11:35
poelcat	can we move offtopic discussion to #fedora-bugzappers please?	Mar 10 11:35
mcepl	adamw: mc	Mar 10 11:35
mcepl	is in RHEL	Mar 10 11:35
adamw	sorry, blame the instigators	Mar 10 11:35
JStizzle	ok guys, how do you like this? User:Tk009/bugzappers	Mar 10 11:35
mcepl	yes, sorry	Mar 10 11:35
jds2001	oh, rhel - yeah, i didnt know about lsinitrd for awhile and tore them apart manually.	Mar 10 11:35
mcepl	all: please, let's move off-topic to bugzappers; we don'ŧ have time for this	Mar 10 11:36
poelcat	we've got another page to discuss :)	Mar 10 11:36
poelcat	BugZappers/Tracking	Mar 10 11:36
poelcat	should we discuss this week or wait until the front page is set?	Mar 10 11:36
*poelcat gave feedback on f-test-list as did tk009		Mar 10 11:37
poelcat	others should do the same :)	Mar 10 11:37
iarlyy	when beland is present	Mar 10 11:37
John5342	i like the new tracking page unless somebody comes up with a better draft	Mar 10 11:37
tk009	agree	Mar 10 11:38
JStizzle	I like the tracking page as well	Mar 10 11:38
*poelcat is concerned there are too many things on it		Mar 10 11:38
tk009	my agree was to iarlyy	Mar 10 11:38
mcepl	I did above (keep the table, move the rest somewhere else)	Mar 10 11:38
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jamundso	i like it, and nominate adamw for mkinitrd :-)	Mar 10 11:38
poelcat	and if we are going to have stats someone has to commit to do thing them diligently every week	Mar 10 11:39
JStizzle	hah.	Mar 10 11:39
adamw	can't the stats get done automatically?	Mar 10 11:39
adamw	if not, it's never going to work	Mar 10 11:39
poelcat	adamw: IMHO it would best be part of comphappy's metrics tool	Mar 10 11:39
mcepl	adamw: yes, you can write a script which will run XML-RPC queries to collect the data and then provide data to the table. ;-)	Mar 10 11:40
adamw	mcepl: as poelcat says	Mar 10 11:40
JStizzle	do we just poll the new tickets once a week or something?	Mar 10 11:40
mcepl	yeah, sure	Mar 10 11:40
adamw	mcepl: it shouldn't be too hard to write some kinda linky from comphappy's script	Mar 10 11:40
mcepl	JStizzle: there is a XML-RPC interface to bugzilla	Mar 10 11:40
mcepl	also, I use whines for the similar thing, works pretty well, except you get 4MB+ email every week. ;-)	Mar 10 11:41
*adamw votes we all agree to dump it on comphappy, it's his fault for not showing up ;)		Mar 10 11:41
tk009	hehe	Mar 10 11:41
poelcat	adamw: he couldn't come :)	Mar 10 11:41
adamw	seriously, though, let's ask him if it's something his script could do.	Mar 10 11:42
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poelcat	back to the Tracking page... i count it presenting information on 4 different topics	Mar 10 11:42
poelcat	to mcpel's tag line above i think this is too many	Mar 10 11:42
adamw	i think we had decent agreement on the list that it should cover components and who's doing each one, and that should be it...	Mar 10 11:43
poelcat	and makes the page too long and overwhelming	Mar 10 11:43
tk009	it is to many I feel as well	Mar 10 11:43
tk009	the finding bugs, goals	Mar 10 11:43
poelcat	i definitely like how beland merged ActiveTriagers into Components	Mar 10 11:43
tk009	yes but that was about all that should have been done	Mar 10 11:44
JStizzle	yes, indeed.	Mar 10 11:44
poelcat	what do people think about the page name?	Mar 10 11:44
poelcat	is it too close in name to "Trackers" which is the tracking bug page?	Mar 10 11:45
*poelcat can go either way		Mar 10 11:45
tk009	I think it is to close, I have confused it once already	Mar 10 11:45
JStizzle	I think the average english-speaking human being can differentiate between "Trackers" and "ActiveTriagers" ;)	Mar 10 11:45
John5342	i dont think that can be decided untill we settle on how it is going to be split/not slit	Mar 10 11:45
tk009	lol	Mar 10 11:45
JStizzle	tk009: whoops. sorry. haha	Mar 10 11:46
JStizzle	unless you mean that "Trackers" could be misconstrued to *mean* "Triagers" then yes.	Mar 10 11:46
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JStizzle	that would be confusing to a newbie.	Mar 10 11:46
poelcat	so there is general agreement that the page BugZappers/Tracking (name TBD)	Mar 10 11:47
poelcat	should contain the section...	Mar 10 11:47
poelcat	BugZappers/Tracking#Component_and_Triager_List	Mar 10 11:47
mcepl	What's in a name? That which we call a rose	Mar 10 11:47
mcepl	By any other name would smell as sweet	Mar 10 11:47
poelcat	anything else?	Mar 10 11:47
JStizzle	sure.. tracking page.. you'd expect to see who is tracking what.	Mar 10 11:47
JStizzle	but a link would also be fine.. I could go either way as well.	Mar 10 11:47
poelcat	why Triaging instead if it is based on people's actions	Mar 10 11:48
poelcat	?	Mar 10 11:48
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JStizzle	poelcat: I don't understand the question	Mar 10 11:48
poelcat	JStizzle: what parts of Tracking should stay or go?	Mar 10 11:49
poelcat	s/Tracking/the Tracking page	Mar 10 11:49
JStizzle	well.. the name is vague and misleading	Mar 10 11:49
JStizzle	for what it is.	Mar 10 11:49
poelcat	JStizzle: right we make that TBD for now	Mar 10 11:49
adamw	it's really not that important	Mar 10 11:49
adamw	sort it out on the list	Mar 10 11:49
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poelcat	adamw: good point... we have other topics left to cover :)	Mar 10 11:50
tk009	the list doesn't bite people =)	Mar 10 11:50
iarlyy	please... other crazy idea of me	Mar 10 11:50
iarlyy	the components page should be changed for it ( Tracking replace Components), and components without triage should be named like orphan... or something like that	Mar 10 11:50
poelcat	everyone okay w/ moving on?	Mar 10 11:50
tk009	I am	Mar 10 11:50
mcepl	+1	Mar 10 11:50
JStizzle	yep	Mar 10 11:50
jds2001	+1	Mar 10 11:50
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poelcat	iarlyy: thanks we can consider that on the list discussion	Mar 10 11:51
John5342	+1	Mar 10 11:51
iarlyy	ok	Mar 10 11:51
poelcat	next topic.... updating the bug work flow diagram	Mar 10 11:51
poelcat	tk009: ?	Mar 10 11:51
tk009	http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow	Mar 10 11:51
tk009	its done and I have uploaded the new .png	Mar 10 11:51
mcepl	poelcat: what's the problem?	Mar 10 11:51
tk009	if for some reason this is incorrect, I can put the old right back	Mar 10 11:52
poelcat	tk009: it looks like the old one?	Mar 10 11:52
tk009	no change is needed to the working of NEEDINFO	Mar 10 11:52
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adamw	the page looks to still be using the old image	Mar 10 11:52
mcepl	tk009: oh yes, there is no NEEDINFO anymore	Mar 10 11:52
jds2001	there sort of is.	Mar 10 11:53
tk009	I meant workding	Mar 10 11:53
tk009	grr sorry about my typing	Mar 10 11:53
tk009	my understanding of the change was to remove the needinfo to new	Mar 10 11:54
tk009	did i bork that?	Mar 10 11:54
John5342	according to history tk009 has never touched the image or page. did you upload to the correct location?	Mar 10 11:54
tk009	yes and I see the correct image	Mar 10 11:55
tk009	current14:27, 10 March 2009736×462 (28 KB)Tk009 (Talk | contribs) (changed the work flow: NEEDINFO no longer flows back to NEW.)	Mar 10 11:55
John5342	thats odd. got cahing issues perhaps	Mar 10 11:55
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poelcat	revisit next week?	Mar 10 11:56
poelcat	4 minutes to go	Mar 10 11:56
poelcat	next topic.... Changing our meeting time?	Mar 10 11:56
poelcat	everyone had a chance to fill out the time matrix?	Mar 10 11:56
JStizzle	meeting time needs to be on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel	Mar 10 11:57
John5342	i got an item too. not a priority though	Mar 10 11:57
JStizzle	it is currently incorrect.	Mar 10 11:57
tk009	I corrected it	Mar 10 11:57
poelcat	Bugzappers_meeting_matrix	Mar 10 11:57
JStizzle	tk009: I still see 1400 UTC	Mar 10 11:57
JStizzle	poelcat: I voted.. when is the deadline to vote so we can get it rolled out?	Mar 10 11:58
poelcat	JStizzle: great question!	Mar 10 11:58
JStizzle	as it stands, the most popular meeting time is 1700 UTC.	Mar 10 11:59
adamw	on tuesday.	Mar 10 11:59
mcepl	poelcat: sorry, haven't filled the matrix -- the same time for me	Mar 10 11:59
tk009	the wiki is caching check the history =) JS	Mar 10 11:59
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JStizzle	tk009: yeah.. caching fail. sorry.	Mar 10 11:59
John5342	17utc on tuesday loses tk009 though	Mar 10 11:59
tk009	no it wont	Mar 10 12:00
JStizzle	adamw: yes, on tuesday, not everyday. thanks for correcting me. :)	Mar 10 12:00
tk009	I will adjust	Mar 10 12:00
JStizzle	cool	Mar 10 12:00
adamw	JStizzle: you're welcome, it's a service i provide with enthusiasm! :D	Mar 10 12:00
JStizzle	:D	Mar 10 12:00
poelcat	is 17:00 utc / tues free on the master meeting schedule?	Mar 10 12:01
-->jreznik (n=jreznik@nat/redhat/x-0861a358c4193e77) has joined #fedora-meeting		Mar 10 12:01
poelcat	if so let's propose that time and get a vote on the list	Mar 10 12:01
John5342	how about nope	Mar 10 12:01
JStizzle	nope	Mar 10 12:01
iarlyy	nop	Mar 10 12:01
adamw	bah, fedora packaging committee doesn't sound very important!	Mar 10 12:01
poelcat	okay, we're overtime now	Mar 10 12:01
JStizzle	we'll have to meet in *gasp* ANOTHER CHANNEL	Mar 10 12:01
JStizzle	adamw: haha.	Mar 10 12:01
poelcat	JStizzle: i'd prefer if we could stay here	Mar 10 12:01
adamw	sorry kde folks	Mar 10 12:01
JStizzle	oh for heavens sake, ok.	Mar 10 12:01
adamw	to -bugzappers ?	Mar 10 12:01
JStizzle	indeed.	Mar 10 12:02
tk009	yesum =)	Mar 10 12:02
adamw	go ahead and discuss your heathen desktop, you crazy kde kids	Mar 10 12:02
poelcat	we're having another triage day so everyone is welcome on #fedora-bugzappers	Mar 10 12:02
poelcat	everyone is welcome when we aren't having a triage day too :)	Mar 10 12:02
poelcat	thanks everyone!	Mar 10 12:02

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