Building RPM packages (20090405)

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* spevack hands the microphone to cwickert for RPM Packaging -- User:Cwickert/Building_RPM_packages_Classroom		13:30
cwickert	ok, here we go...	13:30
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Padhu1	ொம	13:30
Padhu1	ok	13:30
cwickert	My name is Christoph Wickert and I'm your teacher for todays IRC classroom lesson on building RPM packages	13:30
mahesh	hello to cwickert	13:30
cwickert	hi mahesh	13:30
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cwickert	We are not going into details, instead I want all of you to have your first RPM after this class	13:30
dash123	cwickert: goodevening teacher :)	13:30
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Padhu1	hi tutor	13:31
cwickert	first, we need to have a couple of tools installed	13:31
cwickert	please do a	13:31
cwickert	yum groupinstall development-tools	13:31
cwickert	if you don't have them installed already	13:31
mahesh	done	13:31
dash123	done	13:31
cassmodiah	done	13:31
cwickert	cassmodiah: :)	13:31
cwickert	cassmodiah already is a package maintainer, so he has all the necessary stuff installed	13:32
cassmodiah	:-) correct!	13:32
ahmed-araby	:)	13:32
cwickert	and especially for RPM building we need some more tools	13:32
cwickert	yum install rpmbuild rpmdevtools	13:32
cwickert	rpmbuild is the command to build the package	13:33
cwickert	rpmdevtools is a collection of handy utils	13:33
ahmed-araby	is rpmbuild rpmdevtools as I think I've problem is rpmfusion ?	13:33
cwickert	so while some are still installing stuff, let's talk about the basics	13:33
ahmed-araby	*is enough ?	13:33
cwickert	ahmed-araby: what exactly is your prob?	13:34
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ahmed-araby	[Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum	13:34
cwickert	ahmed-araby: you can ether do "yum clean all" or disable the rpmfusion repo for now	13:34
dash123	cwickert: i did that yesterday it said ther ain't such thing as rpmbuild,?	13:35
ahmed-araby	I've already rpmdevtools & rpmbuild installed already	13:35
cwickert	ahmed-araby: fine	13:35
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cwickert	dash123: where id it say that? in yum or from the command line?	13:35
cwickert	s/id/did	13:36
dash123	http://www.pastie.org/437408: result of yum search	13:36
cwickert	dash123: sorry, it's rpm-build	13:36
cwickert	ok everybody, my bad	13:37
cwickert	yum install rpm-build	13:37
dash123	ok...no worries	13:37
cwickert	me is ashamed ;)	13:37
cwickert	pk, let's go on	13:37
mahesh	nothing... go ahead	13:37
cwickert	any idea why we are building packages after all?	13:37
cwickert	or what RPM actually means?	13:38
dash123	redhat package manager	13:38
mahesh	RPM Package Manager	13:38
cwickert	mharris: right	13:38
Padhu1	custom applications. am i right?	13:38
cwickert	It used to stand for "Red Hat Package Manager", but got renamed since many other distributions are using RPM too	13:38
ahmed-araby	for building Binary Packages from SOurce code	13:38
lwh	to automatically install a bunch of stuff and possibly run things to set it up ?	13:38
ahmed-araby	ready to use	13:38
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cwickert	ahmed-araby: exactly, ready to use packages	13:38
cwickert	no need to compile them, but install them with a couple of mouseclicks	13:39
cwickert	RPM has a database that keeps track of all files installed, so you can uninstall them later without orphaned files	13:39
cwickert	The database is located in /var/lib/rpm/*db.*	13:39
cwickert	RPM will also take care of providing all the dependencies of a package, verify it's integrity and so on	13:39
* ahmed-araby rises his hand		13:39
cwickert	ahmed-araby: yes?	13:40
ahmed-araby	why sqlite with in specific ?	13:40
ahmed-araby	It's using sqlite right ?	13:40
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Padhu1	very lite DB and easy to use	13:40
cwickert	ahmed-araby: yes, the database is using sqlite	13:40
cwickert	the database lists all files installed, e.g you can run "rpm -ql foo" and it will show you all files inside foo	13:41
cwickert	so everybody has the tools installed now?	13:41
dash123	yes	13:41
openpercept	yes	13:41
l0nwlf	yes	13:41
cwickert	ok	13:41
cassmodiah	yes	13:41
ahmed-araby	yes	13:42
cwickert	one important thing is	13:42
cwickert	NEVER build packages as root!	13:42
cwickert	If a package has a stupid Makefile, you might accidentally overwrite files of your system.	13:42
mahesh	yes	13:42
cwickert	so we need to setup a rpm build tree for your user	13:42
cwickert	we use rpmdev-setuptree from the rpmdevtools package to do that	13:43
cwickert	just run rpmdev-setuptree	13:43
cassmodiah	?	13:43
cwickert	it will create a folder rpmbuild inside your homedir	13:43
cwickert	cassmodiah: yes please	13:43
cassmodiah	cwickert do you think it's important to set up an extra user just for packaging? the fedora wiki doesn't give a hit, and the packagers are not agreed	13:43
cwickert	cassmodiah: no, it's only usefull for fully automated packageing	13:43
cwickert	but you won't need it	13:44
cassmodiah	k, thx	13:44
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cwickert	note to the rest of the class: by fedorawiki cassmodiah means fedorawiki.de, not the wiki at fedoraproject.org	13:44
cwickert	now let's look inside the rpmnbuild folder	13:44
lwh	that command doesn't exist , will this work on f9 ?	13:45
mahesh	i was wondering about that, now clear	13:45
cwickert	there are five subdirs inside	13:45
cwickert	BUILD is where the builds are happening. Every package will create a subfolder <name>-<version> there	13:45
cwickert	RPM is where the binary packages will be placed when they are ready	13:45
cwickert	SOURCES is where we need to place the sources of which we build the packages!	13:45
mahesh	ok	13:45
cwickert	SPECS is for spec files	13:45
cwickert	so what are spec files? any idea?	13:45
cassmodiah	!	13:46
dash123	specifications	13:46
dash123	?	13:46
cassmodiah	build reciepts :-)	13:46
mahesh	SPECS are like the makefiles's it provides info to the package manager right?	13:46
cwickert	cassmodiah: you be quiet please ;) you know all that stuff already	13:46
cwickert	mharris: well said!	13:47
cwickert	sorry, I meant mahesh	13:47
mahesh	ok	13:47
cwickert	so the spec has a set of instructions _how_ to build the package	13:47
cwickert	so building RPMs means writing a spec first of all	13:47
cwickert	ok, we continue with the folders first	13:48
cwickert	SRPMS is for source RPMS.	13:48
cwickert	any questions so far?	13:48
dash123	cwickert: i previously tried to get to the source code of some linuxdcpp.srpm and did these steps, shud i delete these and start afresh?? 'cause all my subdirs are filled with dcpp files	13:48
cwickert	dash123: no problem	13:49
mahesh	is the SRPMS built automatically or is it another process?	13:49
sattam	whats the diffrent between SRPMS and source ?	13:50
cwickert	mahesh: depends on how you call rpmbuild	13:50
mahesh	i mean foo.src.rpm	13:50
mahesh	ok	13:50
cwickert	sattam: good question	13:50
cwickert	the SRPM or source RPM contains the source tarball	13:50
cwickert	as well as the spec	13:50
cwickert	and patches, if there are any	13:50
cwickert	so you can use the srpm to build binary rpms of it for different releases	13:51
cwickert	sattam: got it?	13:51
sattam	cwickert: yes , very clear	13:51
cwickert	ok	13:51
mahesh	so rpms are built from srpms?	13:51
cwickert	mahesh: yes, you can do this	13:52
mahesh	fine	13:52
cwickert	but you can also do this in a single run of rpmbuild	13:52
cwickert	depends how you call it	13:52
cwickert	we'll come to that later	13:52
mahesh	ok	13:52
cwickert	first we need a spec	13:52
cwickert	and of course we need a program to package	13:53
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cwickert	I have chosen gigolo from http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/	13:53
cwickert	it's already in Fedora, but nevermind	13:53
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mahesh	ok	13:53
cwickert	so everybody please go to http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/download.html	13:53
dash123	ok..which one to download?	13:54
cwickert	and download the latest release 0.3.1 to your ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES folder	13:54
l0nwlf	0.3.1 ??	13:54
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cwickert	l0nwlf: yes: http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/download.html#gigolo-0-3-1	13:54
cwickert	or http://files.uvena.de/gigolo/gigolo-0.3.1.tar.bz2 as direct link	13:55
dash123	cwickert: do we also need the gpg signature??	13:55
cwickert	nope	13:55
dash123	ok	13:55
cwickert	we trust ourselves and upstream	13:55
cwickert	:)	13:55
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dash123	done	13:55
UsamaAkkad	:)	13:55
cwickert	ok, now we go to rpmbuild/SPECS	13:55
sattam1	http://files.uvena.de/gigolo/gigolo-0.3.1.tar.bz2	13:55
cwickert	and run the command "rpmdev-newrpmspec gigolo"	13:55
cwickert	sattam1: exactly	13:56
cwickert	the command will create an empty specfile from a template	13:56
cwickert	use an editor to edit it	13:56
mahesh	ok	13:56
cwickert	everybody has the spec file opened?	13:56
dash123	bash: rpmdev-newrpmspec: command not found	13:57
verdurin	it's rpmdev-newspec	13:57
openpercept	is it rpmdev-newspec or rpmdev-newrpmspec	13:57
openpercept	?	13:57
cwickert	verdurin: right	13:57
cwickert	got renamed recently	13:57
cwickert	I'm still used to the old name	13:57
cwickert	rpmdev-newspec is the new name	13:57
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cwickert	so it's rpmdev-newspec gigolo	13:57
dash123	done	13:58
openpercept	yeah done	13:58
cwickert	ok, now let's take a look at that file	13:58
cwickert	we go through the tags one by one	13:58
cwickert	Name: this one is pretty trivial, it's "gigolo". Please use the notation of the source tarball	13:58
cwickert	Version: 0.3.1 in our case	13:59
cwickert	Release: leave it as is	13:59
* l0nwlf have a doubt ?		13:59
cwickert	the version is from upstream while Release is from Fedora	13:59
cwickert	so 1 is the first Fedora package	13:59
cwickert	l0nwlf: question=?	14:00
l0nwlf	Version is 'blank' not '0.3.1' in gigolo.spec	14:00
cwickert	l0nwlf: yes, you need to enter 0.3.1 there as I said	14:00
cwickert	Release is already filled and remains as is	14:00
l0nwlf	oh , we need to _edit_ it	14:00
cwickert	l0nwlf: yes	14:01
cwickert	%{?dist} will be expanded to "fc10" or "fc11"	14:01
dash123	cwickert: can you tell us about how we decide version numbers??	14:01
cwickert	dash123: use the one from upstream	14:01
cwickert	look at the tarball	14:01
dash123	ok	14:01
cwickert	and for release you usually start with 1	14:02
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cwickert	but threre are exceptions	14:02
cwickert	for snapshots and betas etc	14:02
cwickert	but we are not going to cover that since it is outlined in the wiki	14:02
cwickert	next is the Group tag	14:02
cwickert	oh no, I forgot Summary	14:03
cwickert	Summary should be short and precise. Only keywords, now whole sentences, because this is what you see in PackageKit.	14:03
cwickert	We can take this from the homepage	14:03
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cwickert	for example "GIO/GVFS management application"	14:03
cwickert	now we come to Group	14:04
Padhu1	cwickert: some RPMs needed GPL Keys when try to install it. Is it possible to build like these? then How	14:04
cwickert	Padhu1: later...	14:04
cwickert	you mean gpg keys, right?	14:04
Padhu1	yes	14:05
cwickert	signing is a different process after the build	14:05
cwickert	lets continue with the spec	14:05
Padhu1	ok	14:05
cwickert	please take a look at /usr/share/doc/rpm-4.6.0/GROUPS	14:05
mahesh	explain about the gpg keys before the end of this session	14:05
cwickert	mharris: will do	14:05
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cwickert	I think "User Interface/Desktops" fits best for our package	14:05
cwickert	but you can choose anything you want from the list	14:06
cwickert	License: inside the source tarball you will find a copy of the GPL named COPYING. It's version 2 of the license	14:06
cwickert	so we use "GPLv2" for now, but we'll come back to that later	14:06
cwickert	URL: The homepage of the program: http://www.uvena.de/gigolo	14:07
cwickert	Source0: is the dowload link	14:07
cwickert	so for us it's http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/download.html#gigolo-0-3-1	14:07
cwickert	sorry	14:07
cwickert	http://files.uvena.de/gigolo/gigolo-0.3.1.tar.bz2	14:07
cwickert	needs to be the link to the file itself	14:08
cwickert	Now comment out BuildRequires and Requires, we don't care about that right now but shoot into the dark instead :)	14:08
cwickert	%description: we can take that from the homepage too	14:09
cwickert	for example: Gigolo is a frontend to easily manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. It allows you to quickly connect/mount a remote filesystem and manage bookmarks of such.	14:09
cwickert	You see: complete sentences with dots at the end.	14:09
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cwickert	Any questions so far?	14:09
mahesh	nope, its clear	14:09
cwickert	has everybody filled all tags now?	14:10
dash123	what haapens if i choose some random group tag?	14:10
dash123	do i "have" to choose from th e/GROUPS?	14:10
cwickert	dash123: yes	14:10
cwickert	well, you can uses something different	14:10
cwickert	I don't think rpmbuild will complain	14:11
cwickert	but we in Fedora will :)	14:11
cwickert	so stick with the list please	14:11
UsamaAkkad	:D	14:11
dash123	ok	14:11
cwickert	the group tag is not important any longer, as it is not used by packagekit	14:11
cwickert	ok, now we can start our first build	14:12
nethad	cwickert: i have a question, do i need to put " " around the strings, e.g. Licence: "GPLv2" or is it: Licence: GPLv2  ?	14:12
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cwickert	or at leastr an attempt to do so	14:12
cwickert	nethad: no ""	14:12
cwickert	just GPLv2	14:12
nethad	ok	14:12
l0nwlf	i have a doubt ?	14:12
cwickert	l0nwlf: yes please	14:12
l0nwlf	%prep , %setup ??	14:12
cwickert	ok, then I'll explain it	14:13
l0nwlf	we'll leave it as it is	14:13
cwickert	for now we can use what's in there	14:13
cwickert	%prep ist for preparing	14:13
sattam1	cwickert: why you skip " BuildRoot " ?	14:13
cwickert	sattam1: my bad	14:13
cwickert	BuildRoot remains as is	14:14
cwickert	it's the location where we are building the package	14:14
cwickert	a temporary folder	14:14
cwickert	ok sattam1?	14:14
sattam1	clear	14:14
cwickert	ok, so %prep is for preparing	14:15
cwickert	this means extractiong the source and applying patches if there are any	14:15
cwickert	after that the actual build starts in %build	14:15
cwickert	ok, just realized that I choose a bad example :(	14:16
cwickert	because gigolgo uses war for building and not autotools	14:16
cwickert	usually yu run ./configure && make	14:16
cwickert	and make install	14:16
mahesh	yes	14:17
cwickert	so ./configure and make are the stuff in the %build section	14:17
cwickert	after that the files are installed to a temporary location	14:17
cwickert	during %install	14:17
cwickert	waf bedomes more and more popular	14:18
cwickert	so in our example we use waf instead of autotools for building	14:18
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dash123	cwickert: how did you get to know gigolo uses war/waf??experience?	14:18
cwickert	so please remove %configure	14:19
cwickert	make %{?_smp_mflags}	14:19
cwickert	dash123: see the readme inside the tarball	14:19
dash123	ok	14:19
cwickert	it contains instructions for building the package	14:19
cwickert	the statement we use for building is at http://fpaste.org/paste/8014	14:19
l0nwlf	we remove only these two i suppose	14:19
cwickert	use this to replace the two lines	14:20
cwickert	l0nwlf: right	14:20
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cwickert	actually this is only the configure	14:20
cwickert	for building we need "./waf build"	14:20
cwickert	so ./waf build replaces make %{?_smp_mflags}	14:21
cwickert	so everybody has his %build section ready now?	14:21
dash123	yes	14:21
cwickert	ok, then we start	14:21
cwickert	rpmbuild -ba gigolo.spec	14:22
cwickert	-ba means build all, binaries and source rpm	14:22
cwickert	-bs means build source	14:22
cwickert	and --bb build binary	14:22
UsamaAkkad	build source mean srpm ?	14:23
cwickert	UsamaAkkad: exactly	14:23
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cwickert	so are you already running the rpmbuild?	14:23
cwickert	anybody?	14:23
cwickert	it will most likely stop with an error	14:23
dash123	yes i got errors	14:23
cwickert	ok, dash123, tell me	14:24
nethad	cwickert: yes, errors	14:24
l0nwlf	error: line 8: Unknown tag: Version 2, June 1991	14:24
l0nwlf	I copied all licence : and it's second line of licennse tag	14:24
dash123	http://fpaste.org/paste/8015	14:24
nethad	my one seems to be about the waf command	14:24
cwickert	l0nwlf: no, just insert GPL there	14:24
cwickert	dash123: there seems to be a letter missing	14:25
sattam1	error: line 15: Too many names: %description Gigolo is a frontend to easily manage connections	14:25
cwickert	needs to be "export"	14:25
dash123	and my spec file is this: http://fpaste.org/paste/8017	14:26
l0nwlf	error: line 19: Too many names: %description my first RPM	14:26
l0nwlf	%description is causing errors	14:27
cwickert	l0nwlf needs a new line after description	14:27
cwickert	all: I have posted what the head of the spec should look like at http://fpaste.org/paste/8018	14:27
cwickert	it also contains some more things we'll come to later	14:27
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cwickert	for those who have problems, I suggest to use the paste I provided	14:28
l0nwlf	http://www.mibbit.com/pb/nmlavL	14:28
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cwickert	l0nwlf: there is a typo	14:28
cwickert	all: xport needs to be export, the e is missing	14:29
cwickert	my bad, I missed that during copying	14:29
cwickert	here is the correct version: http://fpaste.org/paste/8019	14:29
cwickert	so, anybody running rpmbuild right now?	14:30
cwickert	or where are the problems?	14:30
dash123	ah working now its checking for gcc, etc..ops error again	14:30
cwickert	dash123: this was expected :)	14:30
cwickert	these are missing build reuirements	14:31
l0nwlf	what about %install , %clean , %files	14:31
cwickert	dash123: can you please post the errors?	14:31
cwickert	l0nwlf: later...	14:31
dash123	yes	14:31
openpercept	:wq	14:31
openpercept	oops	14:31
dash123	http://fpaste.org/paste/8020	14:31
l0nwlf	http://www.mibbit.com/pb/1JR4Df	14:32
cwickert	dash123: looks good so far, this is because we have not yet tweaked the %install section	14:32
cwickert	l0nwlf: same for you	14:32
cwickert	so basically the buold itself has worked for all of you	14:33
cwickert	fine	14:33
cwickert	not to %install	14:33
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cwickert	the first line remains as is	14:33
cwickert	rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT	14:33
cwickert	is for cleaning up old stuff if there is any from a previpus build that failed	14:34
cwickert	now instead of "make install DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT" we use waf again	14:34
cwickert	so it becomes	14:34
cwickert	DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT ./waf install	14:34
cwickert	when you have changed that, you can re-run rpmbuild	14:34
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dash123	cwickert: i do realise i didn't include ./waf build -v in %build will that cause problems later?	14:35
cwickert	dash123: yes , then you did not build anything	14:35
cwickert	because this is the counterpart to "make"	14:35
dash123	oh...ok sry	14:36
cwickert	np	14:36
cwickert	let's get back to http://fpaste.org/paste/8020 for a moment	14:36
@spevack	cwickert: about 5 minutes left, FUI	14:36
@spevack	er, FYI	14:36
cwickert	spevack: thanks	14:36
cwickert	everybody: you see these "checking for ..." messages, right=	14:37
cwickert	?	14:37
dash123	i got a bunch more errors after the correction:	14:37
cwickert	this is where we get the buildquirements from	14:37
dash123	color coded in red	14:37
cwickert	anybody successfully did the build?	14:37
cwickert	until %install?	14:37
dash123	not me	14:37
dash123	let me copy your spec and try	14:38
cwickert	dash123: please do	14:38
l0nwlf	http://www.mibbit.com/pb/cCTnmG	14:38
l0nwlf	here are my errors	14:38
cwickert	l0nwlf: great	14:38
cwickert	these were expected, because the %files section is empty	14:39
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l0nwlf	%clean, %files, %changelogs -> the three things still UNtouched	14:40
cwickert	I have updated the spec at http://fpaste.org/paste/8021	14:40
cwickert	%clean remains as is	14:40
cwickert	and for %changelog you write something like	14:40
cwickert	* Sun Apr 05 2009 Foo bari <foo@bar.com> - 0.3.1-1	14:41
cwickert	- Initial attempt	14:41
cwickert	let's have a look a the files section	14:41
cwickert	/usr/bin/gigolo is unpackaged	14:42
cwickert	this means it was build but not included in the rpm	14:42
cwickert	so we add %{_bindir}/gigolo to the files section	14:42
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cwickert	do not hardcode /usr/bin, but use %{_bindir} instead	14:43
cwickert	for a complete list of macros see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:RPMMacros	14:43
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dash123	ok	14:44
cwickert	so basically everthing that rpm complained about as unpacked needs to be inserted in the %files section	14:44
cwickert	and that's basically it	14:44
l0nwlf	http://www.mibbit.com/pb/rFHjef	14:44
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cwickert	l0nwlf: fine	14:44
cwickert	this is where we use %find_lang	14:45
cwickert	it will automatically search for locales and include them	14:45
cwickert	this is decribed in the wiki	14:45
cwickert	Packaging/Guidelines#Handling_Locale_Files	14:45
cwickert	so now all errors should be fixed	14:46
cwickert	and if somebody still has problems, contact me in private	14:46
cwickert	because now the next class is about to start	14:46
dash123	ok...	14:46
cwickert	I will be around in the chan for answers	14:46
@spevack	ok cwickert, thanks so much for teaching this class.	14:46
* cassmodiah applauds cwickert		14:47
cwickert	but these are al minor problems, I hope you understoood what it's about	14:47
@spevack	we'll take a short break, and nirik will start on his Networking class at :52	14:47
grndplane	Yes thanks for taking the time :-)	14:47
cwickert	feel free to contact me	14:47
G__81	very good session cwickert :)	14:47
dash123	thanks cwickert	14:47
* dash123 bows down		14:47
* nirik waits in the wings ready to start in a bit.		14:47
cwickert	thanks everybody for your time and intereest :)	14:47
openpercept	thanks cwickert	14:47
Padhu1	Thanks	14:47

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