Test Day:2009-04-21 Minimal Platform: Difference between revisions

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DATE	TIME	WHERE
Thu April 21st, 2009	From 12:00 to 00:00 UTC (8am -> 8pm ET)	#fedora-qa)

What to test?[edit]

Today's instalment of Fedora Test Day will focus on:

Features/MinimalPlatform
reviewing and clearing package dependency tree to allow users to install just those packages they want

Who's available[edit]

The following cast of characters will be available for testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion ...

Development
- Petr Vrabec - MinimalPlatform lead
- Mirek Lichvar - rpmreaper
- Petr Machata - Toolchain representative
- Jindrich Novy - rpm maintainer
Quality Assurance
- OndrejHudlicky
- James Laska
Release Engineering
- Daniel Mach

What's needed to test[edit]

Rawhide or Fedora 11 Beta fully updated.
FAS Account - you can create an account in 3 minutes if you don't have one
Your hardware profile uploaded to Smolt according to these instructions

Use caution
Remember, rawhide is a development branch. Use an installation you don't mind getting broken.

How to detect unwanted dependencies[edit]

We want to detect packages that would deserve split to subpackages to make deps more fine-grained and have only necessary packages installed.

Areas of this search can be:

remove desktop packages from server
review comps groups and make sure that deps are sane (create group hierarchy, ensure that group packages (incl. deps) are not listed in any "higher" group. Example: bluez-gnome pulled to @base)
ensure that libraries are in a subpackage (to make multilib stuff happy)
documentation should be in noarch.rpm
bindings to databases/programming languages/desktop environments etc. should be in subpackages
default installation package set (does everyone need to have texlive installed by default? :) )

OUTPUT FROM TEST DAY[edit]

packaging guidelines for dependencies and subpackaging
a sanity script checking if a package matches the guideline (rpmlint plugin?)
list of comps packages/groups to be reviewed (TC1)
spins dependency trees are reviewed
bugs reported for relevant components
test cases defined/automated

How to test?[edit]

Update your machine[edit]

See the instructions on the Rawhide page on the various ways in which you can install or update to Rawhide. Or:

Optionally, you may download a non-destructive rawhide live image for your architecture. Tips on using a live image are available at FedoraLiveCD.

Test Cases[edit]

Test Tools[edit]

rpmreaper - manual review of pkg dependency tree

 # rpmreaper $package

File:Rpm2comps.sh - lists installed packages by comps group

 # chmod a+x Rpm2comps.sh; ./Rpm2comps.sh > TC2.$USERNAME.minimal_install_rpms.txt

File:Comps group deps.sh - show suspicious deps between comps groups

Tips & Tricks[edit]

info about comp groups

 # yum grouplist; yum groupinfo core

what group is package in

 # repoquery --groupmember ypserv

removing / installing whole group

 # yum groupinstall web-server; yum groupremove web-server

list dependency problems

 # package-cleanup --problems

Follow one or more of these test cases:

TC1: Comps groups inter-dependencies review[edit]

Package from lower group should not depend on package from higher group
Pick several packages from candidate list File:CompsDependencies.txt and review the suspected dependencies, report bugs
EXAMPLE: gnome-desktop pulled as deps for printing: fedora-gnome-theme, gnome-themes, gtk2-engines, notification daemon. Examine the packages and confirm validity of dependency, eventually report bug. Use rpmreaper.

TC2: Spins and specific installations[edit]

select spin/area from list and install it in chroot, optionally: try if is installable
- minimal installation
- any of fedora spins
- a comps group (core, base, base-x, web-server, mail-server, gnome-desktop, kde-destop ...)
report: list of packages you require, list of packages which were really installed
EXAMPLE: "yum --installroot=$CHROOT install kernel yum grub; yum --installroot=$CHROOT groupinstall core" - Do minimal installation in chroot. Check dependencies which were brought with using rpm2comps, rpmreaper. Report bugs and upload results: # rpm2comps --root $CHROOT > TC2.$username_minimal_install_rpms.txt

TC3: Default installation[edit]

install default installation (you can use different desktop instead of GNOME)
review installed package set
add packages you usually use and you think they should be in default install
remove those you don't need (rpmreaper can help)
report your favorite package set back using rpm2comps
EXAMPLE: Install default F11 Beta. Remove several packages which are not useful for you (rpm -e texlive). Upload results: # rpm2comps > TC3.$username_default_rpms.txt

TC4: Custom packages (alternative to TC3)[edit]

review package dependencies on your desktop
remove packages you don't use (need)
report your favorite package set back
QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_dependencies
EXAMPLE: Use your current installation, remove several packages which are not useful for you, add your favorite ones. Upload results: # rpm2comps > TC4.$username_custom_rpms.txt

Report your results[edit]

If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below. The table format is as follows:

The first column should be your name with a link to your User page in the Wiki if you have one
The second should be a link to your Smolt hardware profile (see above for a link with instructions on submitting your hardware profile to Smolt).
For each test case, follow the instructions posted in the test case

When reporting bugs, please include a whiteboard MinimalPlatform. To file a bug click here

Tracker bug: 496977

Actual testing status[edit]

We need more help in following areas:

TC1 - pick one group from attached file, update results table, do quick review if those listed inter-group dependencies are expected and wanted
TC2 - install spins, which were not yet examined (look below), upload the results

Results[edit]

User	Smolt Profile	TC1	TC2	TC3	TC4	Comments
SampleUser
Michal Nowak	HW HW	@development-tools	File:TC1.txt
Richard Jones	x86-64		results			Tested using febootstrap.
Ondrej Hudlicky	i386	@java @java-development, @gnome-software-development: DONE	File:TC2.hondra.webserver spin.txt 499 MB, File:TC2.hondra.mailserver spin.txt 495 MB		File:TC4.hondra.custom rpms.txt	Warning: redhat-lsb bringing X deps to base group 472633
Milos Malik	virt-machine		File:TC2.mmalik.minimal install-rpms.txt			in progress
Jan Scotka	virt-machine	@XFCE	minimalTC	defaultTC		in progress
Peter Robinson	x86-64 + OLPC					in progress
Liam Li	i386	@development-tools	File:TC2.liam minimal install rpms.txt	File:TC3.liam default rpms.txt	File:TC4.liam custom rpms.txt

@@ Line 73: / Line 73: @@
 <pre> # rpmreaper $package</pre>
 * [[File:Rpm2comps.sh]] - lists installed packages by comps group
-<pre> # chmod a+x Rpm2comps.sh; ./Rpm2comps.sh > TC2.$username.minimal_install_rpms.txt </pre>
+<pre> # chmod a+x Rpm2comps.sh; ./Rpm2comps.sh > TC2.$USERNAME.minimal_install_rpms.txt </pre>
 * [[File:Comps group deps.sh]] - show suspicious deps between comps groups
@@ Line 100: / Line 100: @@
 ** a comps group (core, base, base-x, web-server, mail-server, gnome-desktop, kde-destop ...)
 * report: list of packages you require, list of packages which were really installed
-* TO_ATTACH: list of spins / specific areas, manual - install in chroot
+* EXAMPLE: "yum --installroot=$CHROOT install kernel yum grub; yum --installroot=$CHROOT groupinstall core" - Do minimal installation in chroot. Check dependencies which were brought with using rpm2comps, rpmreaper. Report bugs and upload results:  # rpm2comps --root $CHROOT > TC2.$username_minimal_install_rpms.txt
-* EXAMPLE: yum --installroot=$CHROOT groupinstall core - Do minimal installation in chroot. Check dependencies which were brought with using rpm2comps, rpmreaper. Report bugs and upload results:  # rpm2comps > TC2.$username_minimal_install_rpms.txt
 ==== TC3: Default installation ====
@@ Line 120: / Line 119: @@
 === Report your results ===
-* If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below.
+If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below.  The table format is as follows:
 * The first column should be your name with a link to your User page in the Wiki if you have one
-* and the second should be a link to your Smolt hardware profile (see above for a link with instructions on submitting your hardware profile to Smolt).
+* The second should be a link to your Smolt hardware profile (see above for a link with instructions on submitting your hardware profile to Smolt).
-* For each test case, primarly see ''' instruction in testcase '''
+* For each test case, follow the instructions posted in the test case
-* Report bugs for all unwanted dependencies found, use [Test Day] in bug summary
+When reporting bugs, please include a '''whiteboard''' MinimalPlatform.  To file a bug [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide&short_desc=%5BMinimalPlatform%5D&cf_qa_whiteboard=MinimalPlatform click here]
+Tracker bug: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496977 496977]
+== Actual testing status ==
+We need more help in following areas:
+* TC1 - pick one group from attached file, update results table, do quick review if those listed inter-group dependencies are expected and wanted
+* TC2 - install spins, which were not yet examined (look below), upload the results
 == Results ==
@@ Line 148: / Line 156: @@
 | [[User:mnowak | Michal Nowak]]
 | [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_cb1b20e9-801a-4dbb-b558-c2e52a7846e2 HW] [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_2179dd43-43bb-4fba-88cf-dc453f10632e HW]
-| <!-- TC1: pkgs tested -->
+| @development-tools
-| <!-- TC2: results  -->
+| [[File:TC1.txt]]
 | <!-- TC3: results -->
 | <!-- TC4: results -->
@@ Line 163: / Line 171: @@
 | <!-- Bugs reported -->
 | Tested using febootstrap.
+|-
+| [[User:Hondra | Ondrej Hudlicky]]
+| [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_93b3f753-5873-4988-b690-0ce43dd16d38 i386]
+| @java  @java-development, @gnome-software-development:  DONE
+| [[File:TC2.hondra.webserver_spin.txt]] 499 MB, [[File:TC2.hondra.mailserver_spin.txt]] 495 MB
+| <!-- TC3: results -->
+| [[File:TC4.hondra.custom_rpms.txt]]
+| <!-- Bugs reported -->
+| Warning: redhat-lsb bringing X deps to base group 472633
+|-
+| [[User:mmalik | Milos Malik]]
+| [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_ff8753bd-51ab-4137-b610-51ace74be3d9 virt-machine]
+| <!-- TC1: pkgs tested -->
+| [[File:TC2.mmalik.minimal_install-rpms.txt]]
+| <!-- TC3: results -->
+| <!-- TC4: results -->
+| <!-- Bugs reported -->
+| in progress
+|-
+| [[User:jscotka | Jan Scotka]]
+| [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_5533114a-02f6-439f-bdef-047209e938fc virt-machine]
+|  @XFCE
+| [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:TC2.jscotka_minimal_install_rpms.txt minimalTC]
+| [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:TC3.jscotka_default_rpms.txt defaultTC]
+| <!-- TC4: results -->
+| <!-- Bugs reported -->
+| in progress
+|-
+| [[User:pbrobinson | Peter Robinson]]
+| [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_f7e0e7bb-0953-450e-b749-f8c1578ceba0 x86-64] + OLPC
+| <!-- TC1: results -->
+| <!-- TC2: results -->
+| <!-- TC3: results -->
+| <!-- TC4: results -->
+| <!-- Bugs reported -->
+| in progress
+|-
+| [[User:Liam | Liam Li]]
+| [http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_a18e2b71-ef10-4bfc-9f3c-746cca259c2f i386]
+| @development-tools
+| [[File:TC2.liam_minimal_install_rpms.txt]]
+| [[File:TC3.liam_default_rpms.txt]]
+| [[File:TC4.liam_custom_rpms.txt]]
+| <!-- Bugs reported -->
+|
+|-
 |}
+ [[Category:Fedora 11 Test Days]]
-[[Category:Test Days]]

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