FUDCon and FAD locations

Please use this page to record any information you have gathered about potential locations for either a FUDCon or FAD.

Europe

Athens

Owner: DimitrisGlezos

After seeing the vibrant Linux community in Athens, as well as the comparatively inexpensive costs and excellent subway system, MaxSpevack suggested Athens as a potential location for a FUDCon, but needs to follow up with Dimitris to gauge interest.

Dimitris asked a few Qs and got a few As:

• Facilities: There is a good chance we could get space at the National Technical University of Athens. PierrosPapadeas is studying there and can help us with that.
  • A few FOSS conferences were held there (including FossComm in which Fedora was represented), infrastructure is pretty OK (don't know the details yet but since it's a University it should be OK). Network, wifi, sound in main area of 200, projectors are pretty much covered there. There's also a big lobby area.
  • Photos: main room, lobby/cafe, spam, floor.
• Lodging -- Since it's Athens I'm pretty sure we can find a multitude of hotels close by. The venue is a 10' bus from the heart of Athens, the Parthenon etc. Prices are decent (ticket for bus/metro/etc 80c, day ticket €3).
• Budget -- Probably quite lower than other European capitals and expensive cities, but possibly a bit higher than others like Brno.
• Availability: We'll need some concrete dates possible early on to book the venue. The fact that it's weekend will probably make things easier.
• Other details: Two of the local ambassadors (PierrosPapadeas,KostasAntonakoglou are eagerly willing to help. ( :) ) Local LUG is willing to help out. Probably 30+ hackers will come around to participate/watch/etc, since the community here is quite vibrant.
• Flights from big airports in central Europe (Munich, Brussels, Zurich) should cost around 200-300 €. For direct flights check Greek Aegean and Olympic Airlines and local airlines (eg. Lufthansa). Easyjet from London 150-200€.

Discussion:

• GeroldKassube: the price for the cheapest flight (I found today) from Zurich to Athens (both ways) costs approx. CHF 500,- which is about ~ EUR 325,-

Basel

Owner: AndreasRau

Andreas has indicated that Basel should be off the list for 2009.

Berlin

Owner: GeroldKassube

This option is for FUDCon EMEA 2009 to be co-organized around LinuxTag 2009. We already have an idea of what this event might look like, due to work that Gerold and Marko Jung have already done.

• GeroldKassube 2008-12-20: the price for the cheapest flight (I found today) from Zurich to Berlin (both ways) costs approx. CHF 275,- which is about ~ EUR 175,- (from Basel it's approx. CHF 80,-)

Brno

Owner: RadekVokal

After last year's success, returning to Brno is always an option. Max needs to speak with Radek to see if this is possible for 2009. For phase 1, we basically need to know if we can replicate last year's facilities and hotel, and what dates would be best.

The primary benefit of this location is that a great number of Red Hat engineers are in that location, and not all of them would be able to attend a FUDCon somewhere else.

Comments from Radek: Confirmed with the University. We have the same offer as last year.

Netherlands

Owner: JeroenVanMeeuwen

FUDCon would be either in Utrecht or Delft, both a short train ride from Amsterdam's airport. For phase 1, we need information about FUDCon location, potential hotel information, and options for dates of the event.

• Benefits of this location:
  1. We can throw one, two or three "Free as in Free Beer" parties
  2. New office in Delft, presumably sufficient for about 250 people (dunno about the (conference-)rooms yet though)

• GeroldKassube 2008-12-20: the price for the cheapest flight (I found today) from Zurich to Amsterdam (both ways) costs approx. CHF 350,- which is about ~ EUR 230,-
• Jeroen van Meeuwen 2009-10-26: Paid around 189 EURO to get to Basel (both ways) with Air France / KLM

Stuttgart

Owner: ThomasWoerner

For phase 1, we need information about FUDCon location, potential hotel information, and options for dates of the event. One of the benefits of this location is that several Red Hat engineers are already there.

• GeroldKassube 2008-12-20: from Switzerland (regardless from where) it's a 2 hours to 4 hours doable car drive

Zurich

Zurich, Switzerland is located in the midst of central Europe.

Owner: Sandro Mathys

Based on Dimitris' Qs and As, Sandro provided some As:

• Facilities:
  • FUDCon: Sandro and Marcus work at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich (ETHZ) and were able to organize rooms together with their superior.
  • FAD: Sandro knows a great scout's hostel/cottage with >40 beds and some big rooms to work together available at a nice price. There's also some great possibilities for fringe events nearby.

• Lodging:
  • FUDCon: There's lot of hotels of different size and in different price ranges all over Zurich. If we decide to go for one big hotel for everyone, we should be able to get some group discount. The [bez=ZRH&cHash=ebf235771a Swiss Youth Hostels' Zurich Youth Hostel] looks promising (list prize CHF 50.-/night, might get group discounts).
  • FAD: The scout's hostel mentioned above has lots of beds available.
  • Zurich has excellent public transportation (city trains, trams, busses). This makes it easy to find a well-connected hotel (if those nearby don't fit). Day tickets cost CHF 5.- (EUR 3.-) and I think we could get group rebates there too.

• Budget: Zurich is an expensive city like most metropoles in Europe. But it depends on what we want/need.
• We should be able to get everything we need for an appropriate price, at least for FUDCon where our group is big enough to ask for discounts.
  • With the help of the LUGS, /ch/open (a Swiss association supporting open source) and the ETHZ, we might get in touch with the right contacts for further benefits/discounts.
  • Sandro has some good contacts to open source companys that might donate some money or resources (as happened for the FAD EMEA 2008 in Basel).

• Availability:
  • FUDCon: There's lots of buildings and rooms at different sites of the ETHZ. It shouldn't be a problem to have the event during a term break but as the ETHZ is normally closed on Sundays, something would have to be arranged - which we were told is possible. I think the most important point here is that we get in touch with the ETHZ prior to defining the exact date (i.e. it would be better if we're a bit flexible with the exact weekend).
  • FAD: The scout's hostel is popular, so we'd need to know the date early enough (especially during summers and the holiday periods). Weekends are cheaper then workdays.

• Travels: Zurich is well connected by national and international trains and has an international airport (which is very well connected to the city by train and tram). You can also easily get there by car.
  • The Zurich Airport is home to the Swiss International Air Lines (Swiss belongs to the German Lufthansa and is member of the Star Alliance) and to the Helvetic Airways.
  • Berlin: round-trip with Swiss from EUR 140.-
  • Paris: round-trip with Air France from EUR 230.-
  • London: round-trip with Swiss from EUR 150.-
  • Brussels: round-trip with Swiss/Lufthansa from EUR 320.-
  • Rome: round-trip with airberlin from EUR 250.-
  • Brno: round-trip with Czech Airlines from EUR 380.-

• Other details:
  • We might get food/beverages cheaper from one of the canteens of the ETHZ than getting them with any 3rd-party caterer or the like.
  • FSF Europe's founder and former president Georg Greve is living in the Zurich area and his office (i.e. the FSFE Zurich office) is located in the heart of Zurich (not too far away from the ETHZ anyway). Maybe we could invite her to give a talk or something.
  • FSF Europe's vize president Fernanda Weiden is works for Google's Zurich office. Maybe we could invite her to give a talk or something.
  • FreeBeer (as in freedom - German only) is available in Zurich and would be a great refreshment at the FUDPub. We've drunk it at OpenExpo's social event and it's really tasty - and as the name says, the recipe is available under a copyleft license (CC-BY-SA). Goerg Greve likes FreeBeer too. It's been developed (and is being sold by) a students organization (of both, the ETHZ and the University of Zurich), by the way.