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* [[Features/MinimalPlatform]]
* [[Features/MinimalPlatform]]
* reviewing and clearing package dependency tree for comps, spins and specific installations


== Who's available ==
== Who's available ==
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The following cast of characters will be available for testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion ...
The following cast of characters will be available for testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion ...
* Development
* Development
** [[User:Pvrabec|Petr Vrabec]] - Lead, tuned, monitoring, documentation
** [[User:Pvrabec|Petr Vrabec]] - MinimalPlatform lead
** [[User:MiroslavLichvar| Mirek Lichvar]] - rpmreaper
** [[User:PetrMachata| Petr Machata]] - Toolchain representative
* Quality Assurance
* Quality Assurance
** [[User:Hondra|OndrejHudlicky]]
** [[User:Hondra|OndrejHudlicky]]
** [[User:Jlaska|James Laska]]
** [[User:Jlaska|James Laska]]
* Release Engineering
** [[User:Dmach| Dan Mach]]


== What's needed to test ==
== What's needed to test ==
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{{admon/caution|Use caution|Remember, rawhide is a development branch.  Use an installation you don't mind getting broken.}}
{{admon/caution|Use caution|Remember, rawhide is a development branch.  Use an installation you don't mind getting broken.}}
== How to detect unwanted dependencies ==
Packages we are interested in don't meet following criteria
* desktop divided from server
* comps groups are respected
* libraries included in subpkg
* documentation in noarch.rpm ?
* ... (Dan)
=> best practices
=== OUTPUT FROM TEST DAY ===
* packaging guidelines for dependencies
* proposal for tool which can check the sanity of subpackages (rpmlint plugin?)
* list of suspected candidates from comps group list is reviewed (TC1)
* spins dependency trees are reviewed
* bugs reported for relevant components
* test cases defined/automated


== How to test? ==
== How to test? ==
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See the instructions on the [[Releases/Rawhide|Rawhide]] page on the various ways in which you can install or update to Rawhide. Or:
See the instructions on the [[Releases/Rawhide|Rawhide]] page on the various ways in which you can install or update to Rawhide. Or:


=== '''Live Image''' ===
Optionally, you may download a non-destructive rawhide live image for your architecture. Tips on using a live image are available at [[FedoraLiveCD]]. ''' And install to disc '''
 
 
=== '''Test Cases''' ===


Optionally, you may download a non-destructive rawhide live image for your architecture. Tips on using a live image are available at [[FedoraLiveCD]]. ''' And install to disc '''
==== Test Tools ====


* rpmreaper - manual review of pkg dependency tree
* rpm2comps - lists installed packages by comps group (Dan)


{|
Follow one or more of these test cases:  
! Architecture !! MD5SUM
|-
| [http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/live/livecd-fedora-livecd-testday-20090331-i386.iso i386] || f5852f27e324fb87f4d060abf44d16dc
|-
| [http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/live/livecd-fedora-livecd-testday-20090331-x86_64.iso x86_64] || 195e48300a94c65289ffdb20d4eeb2d4
|-
|}


==== TC1: Comps groups inter-dependencies review ====
* Package from lower group should not depend on package from lower group
* Pick several packages from and review the suspected dependencies, report bugs
* TO_ATTACH: list of candidates, comps groups manual/structure


{{admon/note|Latest ''syslinux'' package?|Creating a LiveUSB of this rawhide image requires the latest version of syslinux, which is currently available in Rawhide and in the latest Windows [http://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator liveusb-creator]. 
==== TC2: Spins and specific installations ====
Users of F10 and below can upgrade to the latest syslinux package using <pre>yum --enablerepo=rawhide update syslinux</pre>.
* select spin/area from list and install it in chroot, optionally: try if is installable
}}
* report: list of packages you require, list of packages which were really installed
* TO_ATTACH: list of spins / specific areas, manual - install in chroot
* example: web server installation


=== Test ===
==== TC3: Cyclic deps ====
* pick one from list and review


Follow each of these test cases:  
==== TC4: Standard installation ====
* review package set installed in standard install


* [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_install]]
==== TC5: Custom packages ====
* [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_kickstart]]
* review dependencies of what you use daily on your own
* [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_dependencies]]
* [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_dependencies]]


=== Report your results ===
=== Report your results ===
* Purpose of first two tests is to install rawhide in minimal variant - one result for each architecture is enough
* Third test case is to detect unnecessary dependencies in packages you use regularly. Consult your findings on IRC before reporting a bug
* If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below.  
* If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below.  
* The first column should be your name with a link to your User page in the Wiki if you have one
* The first column should be your name with a link to your User page in the Wiki if you have one
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! User
! User
! Smolt Profile
! Smolt Profile
! [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_install| install]]
! TC1
! [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_kickstart| kickstart]]
! TC2
! [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_dependencies| dependencies]]
! [[QA:Testcase_Minimal_Platform_dependencies| Custom pkg dependencies]]
! Comments
! Comments
|-
|-
| [[User:SampleUser]]  
| [[User:SampleUser]]  
| <!-- Smolt profile -->  
| <!-- Smolt profile -->  
| <!-- Result of manual install -->
| <!-- Result of TC1 -->
| <!-- Result of kickstart install-->
| <!-- Result of TC2 -->
| <!-- Bugs: unnecessary dependencies -->
| <!-- bugs reported -->
| <!-- Comments -->
| <!-- Comments -->
|}
|}

Revision as of 09:42, 20 April 2009

DATE TIME WHERE
Thu April 21st, 2009 From 12:00 to 00:00 UTC (8am -> 8pm ET) #fedora-qa)

What to test?

Today's instalment of Fedora Test Day will focus on:

Who's available

The following cast of characters will be available for testing, workarounds, bug fixes, and general discussion ...

What's needed to test

Use caution
Remember, rawhide is a development branch. Use an installation you don't mind getting broken.

How to detect unwanted dependencies

Packages we are interested in don't meet following criteria

  • desktop divided from server
  • comps groups are respected
  • libraries included in subpkg
  • documentation in noarch.rpm ?
  • ... (Dan)

=> best practices

OUTPUT FROM TEST DAY

  • packaging guidelines for dependencies
  • proposal for tool which can check the sanity of subpackages (rpmlint plugin?)
  • list of suspected candidates from comps group list is reviewed (TC1)
  • spins dependency trees are reviewed
  • bugs reported for relevant components
  • test cases defined/automated

How to test?

Update your machine

See the instructions on the Rawhide page on the various ways in which you can install or update to Rawhide. Or:

Optionally, you may download a non-destructive rawhide live image for your architecture. Tips on using a live image are available at FedoraLiveCD. And install to disc


Test Cases

Test Tools

  • rpmreaper - manual review of pkg dependency tree
  • rpm2comps - lists installed packages by comps group (Dan)

Follow one or more of these test cases:

TC1: Comps groups inter-dependencies review

  • Package from lower group should not depend on package from lower group
  • Pick several packages from and review the suspected dependencies, report bugs
  • TO_ATTACH: list of candidates, comps groups manual/structure

TC2: Spins and specific installations

  • select spin/area from list and install it in chroot, optionally: try if is installable
  • report: list of packages you require, list of packages which were really installed
  • TO_ATTACH: list of spins / specific areas, manual - install in chroot
  • example: web server installation

TC3: Cyclic deps

  • pick one from list and review

TC4: Standard installation

  • review package set installed in standard install

TC5: Custom packages


Report your results

  • If you are unsure about exactly how to file the report, just ask on IRC and we will help you. Once you have completed the tests, add your results to the Results table below.
  • The first column should be your name with a link to your User page in the Wiki if you have one
  • and the second should be a link to your Smolt hardware profile (see above for a link with instructions on submitting your hardware profile to Smolt).
  • For each test case, primarly see instruction in testcase

Results

User Smolt Profile TC1 TC2 Custom pkg dependencies Comments
User:SampleUser
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