QA/Meetings/20120528

Agenda

• Previous meeting follow-up
• Fedora 17 wrap-up / final tasks
• Fedora 18 planning
• AutoQA update
• Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

• tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand - this was done reasonably quickly through the f17 climax

Fedora 17 wrap-up / final tasks

• A vote of thanks to all for F17 validation
• Common bugs page: this query lists the bugs proposed for inclusion but not yet added, please help write entries
• AcceptedNTH but non-fixed bugs should be checked in case they should go onto common bugs
• Kparal provided a table (now expired from fpaste) listing total validation tests run by each tester, Andre was the winner

Fedora 18 planning

• We agreed to delay the discussion to next week due to the U.S. holiday depriving us of tflink and the anaconda crew

AutoQA update

• A bug was fixed that caused some duplicate mail spam to maintainers

IRC Log

adamw	#startmeeting fedora-qa	15:01
zodbot	Meeting started Mon May 28 15:01:10 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:01
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	15:01
adamw	#meetingname fedora-qa	15:01
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	15:01
adamw	#topic roll call	15:01
adamw	who's here for some qa meeting' time fun?	15:01
* pschindl is here		15:01
* akshayvyas is here		15:01
* mkrizek is here		15:01
adamw	only the hardcore, huh :)	15:03
* jskladan is lurking		15:03
* kparal arrives		15:03
adamw	#chair kparal	15:03
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw kparal	15:03
* kparal sits		15:04
adamw	hah! it was a trick chair	15:04
* adamw pokes tflink		15:05
kparal	adamw: isn't there a holiday in the USA?	15:05
kparal	tflink might not be here	15:05
adamw	what is this 'holly day' of which you speak?	15:05
adamw	i am not familiar with your strange speakings	15:05
akshayvyas	kparal: i think soo	15:05
jskladan	he said he'll be AFK most of the day, IIRC	15:05
kparal	adamw: it means a day when you don't work	15:06
adamw	.fire tflink	15:06
zodbot	adamw fires tflink	15:06
adamw	kparal: does...not...compute...	15:06
kparal	adamw: never mind, it's too complicated	15:06
adamw	=)	15:06
adamw	#topic previous meeting follow-up	15:07
adamw	okay, so we just have one thing here - "tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand"	15:07
adamw	we pretty much did that, so yay for us.	15:07
akshayvyas	28 is holiday for what ??	15:07
kparal	Memorial Day, whatever that is	15:07
adamw	like remembrance day for everyone else.	15:08
adamw	they call that 'veterans day'.	15:08
akshayvyas	hhk	15:08
adamw	oookay	15:08
adamw	#info "tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand" - this was done successfully	15:08
adamw	#topic Fedora 17 wrap-up / final tasks	15:09
adamw	so...let's do some blocker rev<ducks>	15:09
adamw	so thanks & congratulations to all for the f17 validation work	15:10
rbergeron	wooooooooo meeting	15:10
kparal	do we have all the CommonBugs documented?	15:10
adamw	we slipped a bit more than we'd have liked but at least there weren't as many all-night crazytimes as for f16	15:10
adamw	kparal: not yet, that's one of the 'final tasks'	15:10
adamw	#info vote of thanks to all for F17 validation	15:10
adamw	as kparal points out, we still have some CommonBugs'ing to do today, i'll be working on that but it'd be appreciated if anyone can help	15:11
akshayvyas	common or NTH's	15:11
kparal	I'll try	15:11
kparal	do we have some clever query for undocumented CommonBugs?	15:12
adamw	http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed lists the bugs that are proposed for commonbugs but not yet on the page; the page is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F17_bugs ; there are instructions on how to write commonbugs entries included in comments in the page source, and you can also just be guided by other entries	15:12
adamw	kparal: by an amazing coincidence...=)	15:12
kparal	we should have a wiki page listed all the queries so I don't have to ask dumb questions in a logged meeting	15:12
kparal	adamw: thanks for link	15:13
adamw	hehe	15:13
adamw	#info proposed common bugs are listed by the query http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed	15:14
adamw	note that some of those are stale proposals from earlier releases which i just can't work up the enthusiasm to write...of course if you want to, you're welcome.	15:14
adamw	the other kinda-urgent thing on my list is to go back over accepted NTH bugs and make sure any of them that are needed on the commonbugs list are on it, and make sure fixes get put out asap	15:15
adamw	that's another thing i'll be working on, but again, if anyone wants to help, please do	15:15
adamw	there's also a couple of preupgrade bugs we should look at in that context	15:15
adamw	#info we should also review acceptedNTH bugs that weren't fixed to make sure they're in commonbugs if appropriate, and get fixed ASAP	15:15
kparal	btw, I hacked a script today to count the number of test cases reported in wiki matrices per name. anyone interested in results?	15:16
adamw	sure, sounds fun	15:16
adamw	of course, some tests are easier than others	15:17
kparal	sure, that needs to be taken into account	15:17
kparal	http://fpaste.org/4g2j/	15:17
kparal	but still, robatino should receive a freaking gold medal	15:17
robatino	i have an unfair advantage since i do the easy ones and my account on secondary01 lets me do the checksum tests without downloading	15:18
robatino	still, it's the only practical way to test the spins	15:18
adamw	#info gold medal to be mailed to robatino, thanks andre!	15:18
kparal	robatino: huge thanks for your efforts	15:18
adamw	did you run it on the desktop and base pages too?	15:18
kparal	yes, all combined	15:19
adamw	cool.	15:19
adamw	obviously another task is to write up the F17 retrospective, and i'll try and get that done quickly. i suspect it won't be such a focus as it was with f16, though, if we spend more time on anaconda testing.	15:20
adamw	which segues smoothly into the next section, unless anyone has more on F17...	15:20
adamw	i guess not!	15:21
adamw	#topic Fedora 18 planning	15:21
adamw	i was hoping we'd have a bcl or a dlehman in the house for this, but since it's a holiday i guess not	15:22
adamw	in which case it may be wisest to postpone it till next week, with tflink and anaconda folks around	15:22
adamw	i was hoping to look at the current state of newUI and ask the anaconda team what we should be testing at this time	15:22
adamw	any thoughts?	15:23
* kparal agrees		15:23
aspratyush	makes sense	15:24
pschindl	I have seen some images with new anaconda, but it's in an early stage. There is nothing to test yet	15:24
akshayvyas	pschindl: +1	15:25
adamw	i'm not so sure of that...we've had images for weeks/months, but there was a passing reference in #anaconda saying something like 'installs are so fast with newUI', and i know the roadmap was to have it at least basically usable by now. so that's why i'd like to ask about the current status.	15:25
adamw	#agreed we'll delay the f18 planning discussion to next week due to the U.S. holiday depriving us of tflink and the anaconda crew	15:26
adamw	#topic AutoQA update	15:26
adamw	do we have much news here, kparal?	15:26
kparal	jskladan: do we have something?	15:26
kparal	we fixed an annoying bug that caused some maintainers to received dozens of duplicate emails	15:27
kparal	that might be worth mentioning	15:27
jskladan	kparal: nothing here	15:27
jskladan	ah, that one :)	15:27
kparal	nothing else comes to my mind	15:28
adamw	#info a bug was fixed that caused some duplicate mail spam to maintainers	15:28
FranciscoD	anyone here for the fedora videos meeting?	15:29
FranciscoD	its in a minute, right?	15:29
adamw	erm, if it is, then it's eating our spot (qa)	15:29
kk4ewt	FranciscoD: this is the qa meeting	15:29
adamw	we always meet at 15:00 UTC on mondays	15:29
FranciscoD	lol	15:29
FranciscoD	thanks adamw kk4ewt	15:29
* FranciscoD goes to check if #fedora-meeting-1 is for rental		15:30
adamw	so, let's get back to our highly important and productive meeting! :)	15:30
adamw	we're actually through everything, so it's time for...	15:30
adamw	#topic open floor	15:30
* FranciscoD apologises for the random shout		15:30
adamw	anyone have anything here? bearing in mind that we're missing a few people today	15:31
Martix	hello	15:31
adamw	hi martix	15:31
* FranciscoD wonders if Martix has come in for a third meeting?		15:32
adamw	FranciscoD: hey, looks like you can have the channel in a minute...	15:33
adamw	last call for open floor, we'll take anything, sell us a Schticky...	15:33
adamw	welp, i guess we're all taking a post-f17 breather then =)	15:34
adamw	thanks for coming, everyone	15:34
* adamw sets Unpredictable Meeting Fuse for {1-5} minutes		15:34
adamw	when will it blow, nobody knows	15:35
Martix	ok, ready for collisions	15:35
* kparal is now almost convinced to buy Schticky		15:35
adamw	it's great for the cabinets!	15:35
adamw	alright, thanks again everyone, all post-f17 relaxation is well earned	15:36
adamw	#endmeeting	15:36

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