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= Attendees =
= Attendees =
* adamw (100)
* nirik (20)
* jreiser (10)
* satellit_e (10)
* jreznik (9)
* Viking-Ice (7)
* Martix (6)
* tflink (5)
* zodbot (4)
* brunowolff (3)
* jskladan (1)
* mkrizek (1)
* Guest15468 (1)
* pschindl (1)
* viking-ice (0)


= Agenda =
= Agenda =
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== Previous meeting follow-up ==
== Previous meeting follow-up ==
* ''martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email''
* ''martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email'' - unfortunately still not done, we will definitely get it done soon
* ''tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp''
* ''tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp'' - this was not done yet either
* ''adamw to look into [[Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB]] lack of participation and see if we should re-run it''
* ''adamw to look into [[Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB]] lack of participation and see if we should re-run it'' - this also had not been done yet
* ''brunowolff to re-test [[rhbug:909473|bug #909473]] and re-open if it's still bad''
* ''brunowolff to re-test [[rhbug:909473|bug #909473]] and re-open if it's still bad'' - we were not sure whether Bruno had done this


== Fedora 19 Beta status ==
== Fedora 19 Beta status ==
* We should be close to release by now
* Beta RC2 was in testing, some likely blocker bugs had been found but not too many
* Go/No-Go was scheduled for Thursday 2013-05-23
* adamw noted that an 'update with yum' test case in the base matrix would be a good idea


== Test Days ==
== Test Days ==
* [[Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup]] planning
* [[Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup]] looked ready or close to ready, and seemed to have some good test cases that could be adopted into the validation test plans
* [[Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat]] planning
* [[Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat]] shell was in place, but many test cases missing


== Open floor ==
== Open floor ==
* We now have a [https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ calendar in Fedocal]
* Bugzilla was updated to 4.4. Among the notable changes: longer alias names, and needinfo bugs will now email the 'needinfo'd party weekly


== Action items ==
== Action items ==
* nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic
* martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event
* nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now


== IRC Log ==
== IRC Log ==
{|
|- id="t15:01:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
|| [[#t15:01:45|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:45"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon May 20 15:01:45 2013 UTC.  The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t15:01:45|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:45"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t15:01:45|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
|| [[#t15:01:51|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:51"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t15:01:51|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call
|| [[#t15:01:55|15:01]]
|- id="t15:02:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | *beep* No signal. Unable to call "roll".
|| [[#t15:02:19|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:30"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | here
|| [[#t15:02:30|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:33"
| colspan="2" | * satellit_e listening
|| [[#t15:02:33|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:47"
| colspan="2" | * Viking-Ice here
|| [[#t15:02:47|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:51"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t15:02:51|15:02]]
|- id="t15:03:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning folks
|| [[#t15:03:30|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone else?
|| [[#t15:03:31|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:55"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is here
|| [[#t15:03:55|15:03]]
|- id="t15:04:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning jreznik
|| [[#t15:04:02|15:04]]
|- id="t15:04:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair jreznik viking-ice
|| [[#t15:04:09|15:04]]
|- id="t15:04:09"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw jreznik viking-ice
|| [[#t15:04:09|15:04]]
|- id="t15:04:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Previous meeting follow-up
|| [[#t15:04:31|15:04]]
|- id="t15:05:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email" - yeah, failed that again. I'll just move it to a personal todo and stop boring the meeting with it
|| [[#t15:05:01|15:05]]
|- id="t15:05:02"
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek is here
|| [[#t15:05:02|15:05]]
|- id="t15:06:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp" - I don't believe he did this yet
|| [[#t15:06:05|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:18"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | oh, that is my fault, but feel free to do it
|| [[#t15:06:18|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:19"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | unfortunately, no
|| [[#t15:06:19|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB lack of participation and see if we should re-run it" - continuing the festival of fail: nope
|| [[#t15:06:22|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | "brunowolff to re-test bug #909473 and re-open if it's still bad"
|| [[#t15:06:37|15:06]]
|- id="t15:07:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't see any comments in there'
|| [[#t15:07:04|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | wow, well we're clearly doing a bang-up job :)
|| [[#t15:07:12|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info "brunowolff to re-test bug #909473 and re-open if it's still bad" - not sure if he did this yet
|| [[#t15:07:27|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:36"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | well, festivals are fun
|| [[#t15:07:36|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | and that's the important lesson, kids.
|| [[#t15:07:55|15:07]]
|- id="t15:08:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, moving swiftly on!
|| [[#t15:08:20|15:08]]
|- id="t15:08:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 19 Beta status
|| [[#t15:08:21|15:08]]
|- id="t15:08:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, in "less sucky" news...beta looking pretty decent
|| [[#t15:08:38|15:08]]
|- id="t15:09:07"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | Guest15468
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I did a quick retest with the games spin on the intel machine and things looked OK. I haven't retested on AMD/AMD machine yet.
|| [[#t15:09:07|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | '#info Beta RC2 is currently in testing, some likely blocker bugs have been found but not too many
|| [[#t15:09:19|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Guest15468: aha, thanks
|| [[#t15:09:24|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Beta RC2 is currently in testing, some likely blocker bugs have been found but not too many
|| [[#t15:09:28|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Go/No-Go is scheduled for Thursday 2013-05-23
|| [[#t15:09:53|15:09]]
|- id="t15:10:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone have anything to note/discuss on beta?
|| [[#t15:10:15|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:37"
| colspan="2" | * satellit_e still trying to fix soas spin
|| [[#t15:10:37|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:55"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | thanks for mentioning go/no-go, adamw
|| [[#t15:10:55|15:10]]
|- id="t15:11:03"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | corner cases still bad: 955779 no desktop on RV280; 962086 cannot skip bootloader; n-i-bz: grub2 requires LBA
|| [[#t15:11:03|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, i've been trying to get bcl to fix the bootloader thing
|| [[#t15:11:27|15:11]]
|- id="t15:12:15"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan lurks
|| [[#t15:12:15|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreiser: that rv280 one of yours look nutty
|| [[#t15:12:20|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:52"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | Yeah rv280 is nutty. I can run gdb, but need direction on effective debug
|| [[#t15:12:52|15:12]]
|- id="t15:13:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreiser: is it actually using the radeon driver?
|| [[#t15:13:57|15:13]]
|- id="t15:14:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | because I think RV280 should be blacklisted
|| [[#t15:14:12|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:17"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | it claims to be using ati.
|| [[#t15:14:17|15:14]]
|- id="t15:15:00"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | brunowolff
| style="color: #4d4d93" | It should be using llvmpipe when using gnome-shell.
|| [[#t15:15:00|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreiser: hmm. do you have it handy? can you fpaste 'glxinfo'?
|| [[#t15:15:12|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:13"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | yes, llvmpipe is ON.
|| [[#t15:15:13|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:16"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | so, I have a thing at some point to mention... ;) The desktop updates tests are pretty gnome centric. ;) Would there be any interest in alternate tests for other desktops?
|| [[#t15:15:16|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:22"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | or genericizing the existing one
|| [[#t15:15:22|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:23"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | I have seen the generated sse2 code.
|| [[#t15:15:23|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: genericizing the existing one would be great, assuming you can play the balance between genericness and usefulness
|| [[#t15:15:47|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:53"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | The box is not up now;  will boot, then try for glxinfo.
|| [[#t15:15:53|15:15]]
|- id="t15:16:07"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | ok, I can try and take a stab at it.
|| [[#t15:16:07|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:10"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | brunowolff
| style="color: #4d4d93" | My machine is different in that I don't have SSE2 on my CPUs.
|| [[#t15:16:10|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:10"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | propose to the list?
|| [[#t15:16:10|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: if the changes are significant, sure
|| [[#t15:16:31|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | brunowolff: that was one of the bugs that came up earlier
|| [[#t15:16:38|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | right?
|| [[#t15:16:51|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:52"
| colspan="2" | * nirik nods
|| [[#t15:16:52|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:57"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | tests for sugar-desktop would be very different than for other DE's
|| [[#t15:16:57|15:16]]
|- id="t15:17:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreiser: well what we're saying is it should be using llvmpipe *not native acceleration*
|| [[#t15:17:10|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | satellit: the update tests are greyed for SoaS on the basis it doesn't have a graphical updater
|| [[#t15:17:24|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:35"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | ok
|| [[#t15:17:35|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | satellit: is there a 'rule' about how you update sugar?
|| [[#t15:17:37|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:53"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | yum update from root
|| [[#t15:17:53|15:17]]
|- id="t15:18:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | g-i-s gets alpha-blended shadows.  after that, gnome-shell eats CPU for 5 minutes before timing out with no change in graphics display
|| [[#t15:18:00|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:13"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | nirik: well, all test cases are more gnome-centric - I'm trying to use some common sense :)
|| [[#t15:18:13|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:43"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | jreznik: the updates ones are even more so tho. ;) For example, Xfce doesn't even ship PK...
|| [[#t15:18:43|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:50"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: 'glxinfo' requires access to display.  Cannot get display.  now what?
|| [[#t15:18:50|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:56"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | adamw: actually there is a sugar control panel to update the activities in sugar
|| [[#t15:18:56|15:18]]
|- id="t15:19:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | satellit: oh, interesting
|| [[#t15:19:05|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so we could probably do with looking at that too...
|| [[#t15:19:12|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreiser: you have to run glxinfo from within an x session, yeah...maybe try a KDE one :) but we can debug in the bug I guess.
|| [[#t15:19:31|15:19]]
|- id="t15:20:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: nirik: in general, genericizing them is a good thing. i'm aiming to make revising a lot of the existing test cases my Big Project for post-f19 pre-f20
|| [[#t15:20:08|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | there's quite a lot of other stuff needs doing, like writing some partitioning test cases, adding a yum test case, a buncha stuff.
|| [[#t15:20:30|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:36"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/e/e3/Screenshot_of_Software_Update.png/700px-Screenshot_of_Software_Update.png
|| [[#t15:20:36|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | if anyone wants to work on any of that now, of course :)
|| [[#t15:20:45|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:48"
| colspan="2" | * nirik nods again.
|| [[#t15:20:48|15:20]]
|- id="t15:21:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | satellit: does that only update sugar activities, though? not the base system?
|| [[#t15:21:03|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:47"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | yes the update for sugar-desktop is in sugar-terminal root yum update
|| [[#t15:21:47|15:21]]
|- id="t15:22:28"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | FYI http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface
|| [[#t15:22:28|15:22]]
|- id="t15:23:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#t15:23:49|15:23]]
|- id="t15:24:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so adding a yum testcase to 'base' is indicated there as well.
|| [[#t15:24:00|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info we could do with a 'update with yum' test case in the base matrix
|| [[#t15:24:27|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:37"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | xfce (and I think lxde and possibly others) use yumex... it just has a update thing... but it doesn't do notifications, so none of the gui notify stuff applies.
|| [[#t15:24:37|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic
|| [[#t15:24:39|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: it's easy enough to just make that 'if your desktop provides...'
|| [[#t15:24:57|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:58"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | satellit_e
| style="color: #9b519b" | mate uses yumex also
|| [[#t15:24:58|15:24]]
|- id="t15:25:41"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | yeah, ok. so, update that one and make a seperate non gui/yum one?
|| [[#t15:25:41|15:25]]
|- id="t15:26:40"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreiser
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: rv280 glxinfo is http://paste.fedoraproject.org/13201/90635761
|| [[#t15:26:40|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: that's where i'd go with it, yeah
|| [[#t15:26:54|15:26]]
|- id="t15:27:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: the yum test would be in the Base matrix rather than the Desktop matrix
|| [[#t15:27:01|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:10"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | will try and do so, if anyone else wants to first, feel free.
|| [[#t15:27:10|15:27]]
|- id="t15:29:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty
|| [[#t15:29:39|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else on Beta, folks?
|| [[#t15:29:43|15:29]]
|- id="t15:32:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | well then
|| [[#t15:32:04|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Test Days
|| [[#t15:32:05|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, frantic work appears to be underway on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup
|| [[#t15:32:30|15:32]]
|- id="t15:33:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | speaking of partitioning test cases...there's some stuff to yoink
|| [[#t15:33:13|15:33]]
|- id="t15:34:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so looks like 'mganisin', who is Marian Ganisin from RH in brno, is doing a lot of work on this one
|| [[#t15:34:13|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik / pschindl, are you in touch with that?
|| [[#t15:34:30|15:34]]
|- id="t15:35:57"
| colspan="2" | * nirik is reminded to look at the feature page and try and help get it fully finished.
|| [[#t15:35:57|15:35]]
|- id="t15:36:41"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: I talked to them when they started planning it, I'll try to get in touch to see what are the plans right now
|| [[#t15:36:41|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup looks ready or close to ready
|| [[#t15:36:44|15:36]]
|- id="t15:37:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info NewUI_Followup test day also has some useful test cases for anaconda that we should adopt into the matrices (though we need to revise them into correct format)
|| [[#t15:37:13|15:37]]
|- id="t15:38:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | if people can try to spread the word a bit about the test day that'd be great
|| [[#t15:38:08|15:38]]
|- id="t15:39:22"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is going to do some marketing over our asocial networks groups
|| [[#t15:39:22|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | hehe
|| [[#t15:39:38|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i'll post in my usual places
|| [[#t15:39:45|15:39]]
|- id="t15:41:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat looks to have a shell in place, but they haven't written most of their test cases yet
|| [[#t15:41:18|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | has anyone been working with them on that?
|| [[#t15:41:31|15:41]]
|- id="t15:42:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Martix: do you have time to check in and help them complete the page or delay the event, or are you busy?
|| [[#t15:42:08|15:42]]
|- id="t15:44:14"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: I can ask them in ticket on their status
|| [[#t15:44:14|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | it might be best to try a bit more proactively to get in touch, at least if they don't respond there
|| [[#t15:44:51|15:44]]
|- id="t15:45:16"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | then poke them on IRC :-)
|| [[#t15:45:16|15:45]]
|- id="t15:48:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, he's not online atm
|| [[#t15:48:19|15:48]]
|- id="t15:48:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event
|| [[#t15:48:35|15:48]]
|- id="t15:49:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat page shell is in place, but many test cases missing
|| [[#t15:49:23|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open floor
|| [[#t15:49:29|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything for open floor, folks?
|| [[#t15:49:34|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:50"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | we have a QA calendar
|| [[#t15:49:50|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:54"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/
|| [[#t15:49:54|15:49]]
|- id="t15:50:04"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tflink
| style="color: #488888" | not much on it ATM
|| [[#t15:50:04|15:50]]
|- id="t15:50:13"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | so, there's a new bugzilla version.
|| [[#t15:50:13|15:50]]
|- id="t15:50:58"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | one change I thought I would mention because I bet lots of people will find out about it soon: needinfo bugs will now mail reminders to the suppy the info. ;)
|| [[#t15:50:58|15:50]]
|- id="t15:51:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yep
|| [[#t15:51:08|15:51]]
|- id="t15:51:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | that'll be fun
|| [[#t15:51:11|15:51]]
|- id="t15:51:44"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | weekly.
|| [[#t15:51:44|15:51]]
|- id="t15:51:55"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | yeah
|| [[#t15:51:55|15:51]]
|- id="t15:52:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Bugzilla has been updated to 4.4. Among the notable changes: longer alias names, and needinfo bugs will now email the 'needinfo'd party weekly
|| [[#t15:52:17|15:52]]
|- id="t15:54:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | on the up side, we can use the intended alias names for freeze exception bugs now
|| [[#t15:54:11|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | (F19BetaFreezeException not F19BetaFreezeExcept for e.g.)
|| [[#t15:54:30|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so i'll change that
|| [[#t15:54:37|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:40"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | can the calender app be hooked up to various mail clients and google calender etc or is this just completely standalone app?
|| [[#t15:54:40|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:55"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | ( which makes it totally useless )
|| [[#t15:54:55|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice: it can export ICS at least, which you can import into anything else
|| [[#t15:54:57|15:54]]
|- id="t15:55:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't know if it has caldav support
|| [[#t15:55:01|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:29"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | adamw: just a note, I don't see any devels on Anaconda Test Day, only QA
|| [[#t15:55:29|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:42"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | maybe we would be better of just to use google calender instead
|| [[#t15:55:42|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:53"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | yes, you can hook it up to anything that uses ical... google calendar can just fine.
|| [[#t15:55:53|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:53"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | which hooks up to tablets and phones
|| [[#t15:55:53|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Martix: yeah, i'll try and get bcl to come along
|| [[#t15:55:57|15:55]]
|- id="t15:56:04"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | I think mkolman would volunteer
|| [[#t15:56:04|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Martix: or, yeah, if there's gonna be a lot of testing in brno, someone from brno
|| [[#t15:56:25|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:41"
! style="background-color: #854685" | Martix
| style="color: #854685" | mkolman: feel free to write yourself as developer on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup
|| [[#t15:56:41|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Viking-Ice: and of course Skynet :)
|| [[#t15:56:42|15:56]]
|- id="t15:57:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: do we have a QA fedocal yet? tflink was working on it with you, right
|| [[#t15:57:11|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:23"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | adamw: yes, as he noted above it's there now. ;)
|| [[#t15:57:23|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:34"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | nirik
| style="color: #97974f" | you can also subscribe to all calendars
|| [[#t15:57:34|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | goddamnit, i'm not drunk enough yet.
|| [[#t15:57:48|15:57]]
|- id="t15:58:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info QA has a calendar in the fedocal system at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/
|| [[#t15:58:11|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | are we planning to migrate the schedule stuff to fedocal? F20? F21?
|| [[#t15:58:23|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: ^^^
|| [[#t15:58:53|15:58]]
|- id="t16:00:29"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | so what's up with version 20 being offered in bugzilla when we have not even branched yet?
|| [[#t16:00:29|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, I dunno about that
|| [[#t16:00:35|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:38"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: it's uploaded there
|| [[#t16:00:38|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | might be fallout from the 4.4 migration
|| [[#t16:00:40|16:00]]
|- id="t16:00:59"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: in fedocal - not ideal right now, I have to take a loko
|| [[#t16:00:59|16:00]]
|- id="t16:01:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oop, we're over time
|| [[#t16:01:32|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we're doing blocker review in #fedora-blocker-review next, though I forgot to announce it (sorry)
|| [[#t16:01:49|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:50"
| colspan="2" | * nirik noticed the 20 as well, I didn't add it, perhaps we should remove it?
|| [[#t16:01:50|16:01]]
|- id="t16:01:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik: probably
|| [[#t16:01:57|16:01]]
|- id="t16:02:05"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | brunowolff
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I think that happened before the migration (at least the downtime), as I noticed that about 2 days ago.
|| [[#t16:02:05|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:05"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | nirik: yes please
|| [[#t16:02:05|16:02]]
|- id="t16:02:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now
|| [[#t16:02:36|16:02]]
|- id="t16:03:01"
! style="background-color: #539e9e" | Viking-Ice
| style="color: #539e9e" | wont removing it affect bugs if assigned to that?
|| [[#t16:03:01|16:03]]
|- id="t16:03:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | they should just get moved to rawhide, that shouldn't be hard
|| [[#t16:03:16|16:03]]
|- id="t16:04:57"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jreznik
| style="color: #4b904b" | yep, rawhide and I have a script if it will be needed (not sure it still works with a new bz)
|| [[#t16:04:57|16:04]]
|- id="t16:05:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i guess you'll find out :)
|| [[#t16:05:42|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, let's all head over to #fedora-blocker-review for some blocker review
|| [[#t16:05:50|16:05]]
|- id="t16:05:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for coming, folks
|| [[#t16:05:53|16:05]]
|- id="t16:06:57"
| colspan="2" | * nirik looks to see if there's actually any in it yet.
|| [[#t16:06:57|16:06]]
|- id="t16:07:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t16:07:21|16:07]]
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Attendees

  • adamw (100)
  • nirik (20)
  • jreiser (10)
  • satellit_e (10)
  • jreznik (9)
  • Viking-Ice (7)
  • Martix (6)
  • tflink (5)
  • zodbot (4)
  • brunowolff (3)
  • jskladan (1)
  • mkrizek (1)
  • Guest15468 (1)
  • pschindl (1)
  • viking-ice (0)

Agenda

  • Previous meeting follow-up
  • Fedora 19 Beta status
  • Test Days
  • Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

  • martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email - unfortunately still not done, we will definitely get it done soon
  • tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp - this was not done yet either
  • adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB lack of participation and see if we should re-run it - this also had not been done yet
  • brunowolff to re-test bug #909473 and re-open if it's still bad - we were not sure whether Bruno had done this

Fedora 19 Beta status

  • Beta RC2 was in testing, some likely blocker bugs had been found but not too many
  • Go/No-Go was scheduled for Thursday 2013-05-23
  • adamw noted that an 'update with yum' test case in the base matrix would be a good idea

Test Days

Open floor

  • We now have a calendar in Fedocal
  • Bugzilla was updated to 4.4. Among the notable changes: longer alias names, and needinfo bugs will now email the 'needinfo'd party weekly

Action items

  • nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic
  • martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event
  • nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now

IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:01
zodbot Meeting started Mon May 20 15:01:45 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01
adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 15:01
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:01
adamw #topic roll call 15:01
adamw *beep* No signal. Unable to call "roll". 15:02
jreiser here 15:02
* satellit_e listening 15:02
* Viking-Ice here 15:02
* pschindl is here 15:02
adamw morning folks 15:03
adamw anyone else? 15:03
* jreznik is here 15:03
adamw morning jreznik 15:04
adamw #chair jreznik viking-ice 15:04
zodbot Current chairs: adamw jreznik viking-ice 15:04
adamw #topic Previous meeting follow-up 15:04
adamw #info "martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email" - yeah, failed that again. I'll just move it to a personal todo and stop boring the meeting with it 15:05
* mkrizek is here 15:05
adamw #info "tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp" - I don't believe he did this yet 15:06
Martix oh, that is my fault, but feel free to do it 15:06
tflink unfortunately, no 15:06
adamw #info "adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB lack of participation and see if we should re-run it" - continuing the festival of fail: nope 15:06
adamw "brunowolff to re-test bug #909473 and re-open if it's still bad" 15:06
adamw i don't see any comments in there' 15:07
adamw wow, well we're clearly doing a bang-up job :) 15:07
adamw #info "brunowolff to re-test bug #909473 and re-open if it's still bad" - not sure if he did this yet 15:07
tflink well, festivals are fun 15:07
adamw and that's the important lesson, kids. 15:07
adamw anyhow, moving swiftly on! 15:08
adamw #topic Fedora 19 Beta status 15:08
adamw so, in "less sucky" news...beta looking pretty decent 15:08
Guest15468 I did a quick retest with the games spin on the intel machine and things looked OK. I haven't retested on AMD/AMD machine yet. 15:09
adamw '#info Beta RC2 is currently in testing, some likely blocker bugs have been found but not too many 15:09
adamw Guest15468: aha, thanks 15:09
adamw #info Beta RC2 is currently in testing, some likely blocker bugs have been found but not too many 15:09
adamw #info Go/No-Go is scheduled for Thursday 2013-05-23 15:09
adamw anyone have anything to note/discuss on beta? 15:10
* satellit_e still trying to fix soas spin 15:10
jreznik thanks for mentioning go/no-go, adamw 15:10
jreiser corner cases still bad: 955779 no desktop on RV280; 962086 cannot skip bootloader; n-i-bz: grub2 requires LBA 15:11
adamw yeah, i've been trying to get bcl to fix the bootloader thing 15:11
* jskladan lurks 15:12
adamw jreiser: that rv280 one of yours look nutty 15:12
jreiser Yeah rv280 is nutty. I can run gdb, but need direction on effective debug 15:12
adamw jreiser: is it actually using the radeon driver? 15:13
adamw because I think RV280 should be blacklisted 15:14
jreiser it claims to be using ati. 15:14
brunowolff It should be using llvmpipe when using gnome-shell. 15:15
adamw jreiser: hmm. do you have it handy? can you fpaste 'glxinfo'? 15:15
jreiser yes, llvmpipe is ON. 15:15
nirik so, I have a thing at some point to mention... ;) The desktop updates tests are pretty gnome centric. ;) Would there be any interest in alternate tests for other desktops? 15:15
nirik or genericizing the existing one 15:15
jreiser I have seen the generated sse2 code. 15:15
adamw nirik: genericizing the existing one would be great, assuming you can play the balance between genericness and usefulness 15:15
jreiser The box is not up now; will boot, then try for glxinfo. 15:15
nirik ok, I can try and take a stab at it. 15:16
brunowolff My machine is different in that I don't have SSE2 on my CPUs. 15:16
nirik propose to the list? 15:16
adamw nirik: if the changes are significant, sure 15:16
adamw brunowolff: that was one of the bugs that came up earlier 15:16
adamw right? 15:16
* nirik nods 15:16
satellit_e tests for sugar-desktop would be very different than for other DE's 15:16
adamw jreiser: well what we're saying is it should be using llvmpipe *not native acceleration* 15:17
adamw satellit: the update tests are greyed for SoaS on the basis it doesn't have a graphical updater 15:17
satellit_e ok 15:17
adamw satellit: is there a 'rule' about how you update sugar? 15:17
satellit_e yum update from root 15:17
jreiser g-i-s gets alpha-blended shadows. after that, gnome-shell eats CPU for 5 minutes before timing out with no change in graphics display 15:18
jreznik nirik: well, all test cases are more gnome-centric - I'm trying to use some common sense :) 15:18
nirik jreznik: the updates ones are even more so tho. ;) For example, Xfce doesn't even ship PK... 15:18
jreiser adamw: 'glxinfo' requires access to display. Cannot get display. now what? 15:18
satellit_e adamw: actually there is a sugar control panel to update the activities in sugar 15:18
adamw satellit: oh, interesting 15:19
adamw so we could probably do with looking at that too... 15:19
adamw jreiser: you have to run glxinfo from within an x session, yeah...maybe try a KDE one :) but we can debug in the bug I guess. 15:19
adamw jreznik: nirik: in general, genericizing them is a good thing. i'm aiming to make revising a lot of the existing test cases my Big Project for post-f19 pre-f20 15:20
adamw there's quite a lot of other stuff needs doing, like writing some partitioning test cases, adding a yum test case, a buncha stuff. 15:20
satellit_e http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/e/e3/Screenshot_of_Software_Update.png/700px-Screenshot_of_Software_Update.png 15:20
adamw if anyone wants to work on any of that now, of course :) 15:20
* nirik nods again. 15:20
adamw satellit: does that only update sugar activities, though? not the base system? 15:21
satellit_e yes the update for sugar-desktop is in sugar-terminal root yum update 15:21
satellit_e FYI http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface 15:22
adamw okay 15:23
adamw so adding a yum testcase to 'base' is indicated there as well. 15:24
adamw #info we could do with a 'update with yum' test case in the base matrix 15:24
nirik xfce (and I think lxde and possibly others) use yumex... it just has a update thing... but it doesn't do notifications, so none of the gui notify stuff applies. 15:24
adamw #action nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic 15:24
adamw nirik: it's easy enough to just make that 'if your desktop provides...' 15:24
satellit_e mate uses yumex also 15:24
nirik yeah, ok. so, update that one and make a seperate non gui/yum one? 15:25
jreiser adamw: rv280 glxinfo is http://paste.fedoraproject.org/13201/90635761 15:26
adamw nirik: that's where i'd go with it, yeah 15:26
adamw nirik: the yum test would be in the Base matrix rather than the Desktop matrix 15:27
nirik will try and do so, if anyone else wants to first, feel free. 15:27
adamw alrighty 15:29
adamw anything else on Beta, folks? 15:29
adamw well then 15:32
adamw #topic Test Days 15:32
adamw so, frantic work appears to be underway on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup 15:32
adamw speaking of partitioning test cases...there's some stuff to yoink 15:33
adamw so looks like 'mganisin', who is Marian Ganisin from RH in brno, is doing a lot of work on this one 15:34
adamw jreznik / pschindl, are you in touch with that? 15:34
* nirik is reminded to look at the feature page and try and help get it fully finished. 15:35
jreznik adamw: I talked to them when they started planning it, I'll try to get in touch to see what are the plans right now 15:36
adamw #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup looks ready or close to ready 15:36
adamw #info NewUI_Followup test day also has some useful test cases for anaconda that we should adopt into the matrices (though we need to revise them into correct format) 15:37
adamw if people can try to spread the word a bit about the test day that'd be great 15:38
* jreznik is going to do some marketing over our asocial networks groups 15:39
adamw hehe 15:39
adamw i'll post in my usual places 15:39
adamw https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat looks to have a shell in place, but they haven't written most of their test cases yet 15:41
adamw has anyone been working with them on that? 15:41
adamw Martix: do you have time to check in and help them complete the page or delay the event, or are you busy? 15:42
Martix adamw: I can ask them in ticket on their status 15:44
adamw it might be best to try a bit more proactively to get in touch, at least if they don't respond there 15:44
Martix then poke them on IRC :-) 15:45
adamw yeah, he's not online atm 15:48
adamw #action martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event 15:48
adamw #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat page shell is in place, but many test cases missing 15:49
adamw #topic Open floor 15:49
adamw anything for open floor, folks? 15:49
tflink we have a QA calendar 15:49
tflink https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ 15:49
tflink not much on it ATM 15:50
nirik so, there's a new bugzilla version. 15:50
nirik one change I thought I would mention because I bet lots of people will find out about it soon: needinfo bugs will now mail reminders to the suppy the info. ;) 15:50
adamw yep 15:51
adamw that'll be fun 15:51
nirik weekly. 15:51
nirik yeah 15:51
adamw #info Bugzilla has been updated to 4.4. Among the notable changes: longer alias names, and needinfo bugs will now email the 'needinfo'd party weekly 15:52
adamw on the up side, we can use the intended alias names for freeze exception bugs now 15:54
adamw (F19BetaFreezeException not F19BetaFreezeExcept for e.g.) 15:54
adamw so i'll change that 15:54
Viking-Ice can the calender app be hooked up to various mail clients and google calender etc or is this just completely standalone app? 15:54
Viking-Ice ( which makes it totally useless ) 15:54
adamw Viking-Ice: it can export ICS at least, which you can import into anything else 15:54
adamw i don't know if it has caldav support 15:55
Martix adamw: just a note, I don't see any devels on Anaconda Test Day, only QA 15:55
Viking-Ice maybe we would be better of just to use google calender instead 15:55
nirik yes, you can hook it up to anything that uses ical... google calendar can just fine. 15:55
Viking-Ice which hooks up to tablets and phones 15:55
adamw Martix: yeah, i'll try and get bcl to come along 15:55
Martix I think mkolman would volunteer 15:56
adamw Martix: or, yeah, if there's gonna be a lot of testing in brno, someone from brno 15:56
Martix mkolman: feel free to write yourself as developer on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup 15:56
adamw Viking-Ice: and of course Skynet :) 15:56
adamw nirik: do we have a QA fedocal yet? tflink was working on it with you, right 15:57
nirik adamw: yes, as he noted above it's there now. ;) 15:57
nirik you can also subscribe to all calendars 15:57
adamw goddamnit, i'm not drunk enough yet. 15:57
adamw #info QA has a calendar in the fedocal system at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ 15:58
adamw are we planning to migrate the schedule stuff to fedocal? F20? F21? 15:58
adamw jreznik: ^^^ 15:58
Viking-Ice so what's up with version 20 being offered in bugzilla when we have not even branched yet? 16:00
adamw yeah, I dunno about that 16:00
jreznik adamw: it's uploaded there 16:00
adamw might be fallout from the 4.4 migration 16:00
jreznik adamw: in fedocal - not ideal right now, I have to take a loko 16:00
adamw oop, we're over time 16:01
adamw we're doing blocker review in #fedora-blocker-review next, though I forgot to announce it (sorry) 16:01
* nirik noticed the 20 as well, I didn't add it, perhaps we should remove it? 16:01
adamw nirik: probably 16:01
brunowolff I think that happened before the migration (at least the downtime), as I noticed that about 2 days ago. 16:02
jreznik nirik: yes please 16:02
adamw #action nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now 16:02
Viking-Ice wont removing it affect bugs if assigned to that? 16:03
adamw they should just get moved to rawhide, that shouldn't be hard 16:03
jreznik yep, rawhide and I have a script if it will be needed (not sure it still works with a new bz) 16:04
adamw i guess you'll find out :) 16:05
adamw ok, let's all head over to #fedora-blocker-review for some blocker review 16:05
adamw thanks for coming, folks 16:05
* nirik looks to see if there's actually any in it yet. 16:06
adamw #endmeeting 16:07

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