Spins Hackfest summary

Archive of discussion
This is an archive of discussion of a Hackfest at FUDConF10.

What do we need?

1. Black box
2. Metadat
3. Extensibility
4. Seeding
5. Adding new spins
6. Metrics

Who?

• tinkerer
• live USBs
• developers to build more spins
• spin user
• spin reviewer
• potential spin builders

Tasks

1. Get details on a spin
2. Modify spin details
3. Find spin you like
4. Download spin
5. Build spin
6. add spin to site (unofficially)
7. apply for official status
   • submit
   • review
   • pass/fail
8. Review spins and approve
9. Gardening/which are being updated?
10. Voting/popularity
    • Find the "coolest" spins
    • Mozilla addons as a model
11. Discontinue spins?
12. View security vulnerabilities
13. Download kickstart file and extra scripts that were submitted
14. Spin diffing
15. Howto for revisor
16. "Make my Fedora this" -- one click install with metapackages and PackageKit
17. "I use this spin" sticker to put on blog or what have you
18. Advertise
19. Based on Fedora and *only* Fedora?

Example users

Joe -- artist

1. Read about spins
   • from blogs?
2. Go to spins.fpo
3. See popular spins, categories, and what a spin is
   1. What are all spins? (generally)
      • What do they do?
      • Why do I need it?
      • Why don't I just use plain Fedora?
      • How do I use it?
      • How do I download
      • Screencast/video
      • Live vs. installed
      • Link to directory
   2. Expanded view on individual spins
      • Comments
      • Digg-style voting
      • Karma++
      • What's in it
      • Link back to what a spin is and how to use

So...

1. What does Joe need?
   • idea of what he wants
   • fedora system or USB key or blank disc
   • time it takes
2. (blank box)
3. What does Joe get?
   • Live image with instructions
   • 1-click to make your Fedora that spin (PackageKit)

So we want to search for spins by:

• package
• task
• tag
• "art"
• pkgdb metadata
• language
• filtering out spins that won't work using Smolt profiles?

which leads to a huge list of spins. somehow we need to compare. use what is available in the list, such as architectures, live/install, what media it fits on, etc.

Then click spin, and we see

• download this spin
• "make my fedora this" (PackageKit)
  • smolt.
• other suggested packages

Post-spin downloading

• Installation instructions and stuff show up
• Win/Mac/Lin download client or other instructions
• Feedback plz!
• Survey email after 1 week
• Smolt profile with a tag that says what spin it is

Bob -- Fedora user/dev

"Bob thinks that he is the smartest person God ever created. Bob will create the spin to end all spins." -- Max Spevack

• Go to spins.fpo
• "Add a spin"
  • Login
  • "Spins are cool, make your own" banner
  • How to build
    • What tools?
    • Instructions for tools
    • How to "craft" this spin
    • What makes a compelling spin
    • requirements
    • official vs. unofficial
    • what's allowed (just Fedora?)
    • How to configure
    • submit RPM
    • i38n
    • how to build KS file
    • make my running system a spin?
  • He's a motivated guy, and he wants to create a spin.
  • Maybe we should have a spin for spin developers. Hrmm...
• Sections on this page...
  • How to build -- back to the how to build section elsewhere
  • Addition form

Create a Kickstart file

• Web wizard
• Upload
• Pick one to base off of
• Have Kickstart recipes
• Kickstart post, RPM post, or wizard?
• Very very very very very very good samples

In and out example

• What Bob is putting in
  • experience on creating spins and Fedora
  • time
  • FAS account
• (blank box)
• What Bob gets back
  • ISO
  • spin page
  • personalized distro
  • handout
  • user base
  • build tools
  • approval of spin

Interesting questions

1. Allow Adobe to create a spin?
   • If it uses all Fedora software, that works.
2. Live spin or just an installer?
   • The main consensus is to allow both, and make sure we tell the end user on the spins page.