Meeting:IRC Support SIG 2009-05-07

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nirik	ok, I guess we can go ahead and get started...	May 07 10:33
*Southern_Gentlem		May 07 10:33
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nirik	just a note that we switched an hour later... hopefully this time is going to work out for everyone.	May 07 10:34
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Southern_Gentlem	so far better for me	May 07 10:34
nirik	cool.	May 07 10:34
thomasj	same here	May 07 10:34
lunitik	haha... you were both idling in #fedora an hour ago	May 07 10:35
---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support sig meeting - Weekly stats		May 07 10:35
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Southern_Gentlem	been busy with $dayjob	May 07 10:35
thomasj	lunitik, what happened?	May 07 10:35
nirik	http://theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html as usual. Althought not sure it's loading for me...	May 07 10:35
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lunitik	thomasj: just playing	May 07 10:35
thomasj	ah	May 07 10:36
lunitik	nirik: yeah, that is definitely down	May 07 10:36
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nirik	ah well. ;)	May 07 10:36
lunitik	Is there a set plan for the meeting, or just whatever comes up?	May 07 10:37
nirik	lunitik: just whatever we had queued... there is open floor at the end.	May 07 10:37
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---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support sig meeting - F11 prep		May 07 10:38
lunitik	Alright, is there is a list of the topics somewhere on the wiki or anything?	May 07 10:38
nirik	lunitik: not currently. If there is interest I can put them up there...	May 07 10:38
nirik	ok, so we get closer to F11...	May 07 10:38
nirik	nirik: See Upgrading_from_pre-release_to_final and let us know if you have any further questions.	May 07 10:38
lunitik	nirik: Would be nice, that way people can see if there are subjects of particular interest	May 07 10:38
nirik	I think the pre-release link is going to start getting more workout soon.	May 07 10:39
Southern_Gentlem	and at least 2 of us will not be around for release day	May 07 10:39
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nirik	Do check and see if there is anything there to be added for f11 or needs modification.	May 07 10:39
nirik	yes, I'm not sure I will be around for release day. Will be on a family vacation. I might make it on tho... hard to say.	May 07 10:39
lunitik	nirik: I totally forgot about that link, someone was asking about that earlier	May 07 10:39
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nirik	also Fedora_11_FAQ	May 07 10:40
nirik	ok, anything else on F11 release?	May 07 10:40
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lunitik	Can't think of anything, after release, there will probably be more things to add to the FAQ though, heh	May 07 10:41
nirik	lunitik: yeah, the common bugs will likely get updated a lot right after.	May 07 10:41
nirik	Common_F11_bugs	May 07 10:41
nirik	ok, if nothing else on release, lets move back to stats real quick I guess.	May 07 10:42
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nirik	looks like a pretty quiet week...	May 07 10:43
*lunitik thinks it's funny he's #19 after maybe 4 days back with Fedora... isn't sure that's a good thing		May 07 10:43
nirik	oddly, the pulse faq has dropped out of the top 10 links	May 07 10:43
nirik	ok, nothing else I see there that is too noteworthy. ;)	May 07 10:44
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nirik	I didn't have anything else this week. Anyone have anything they would like to bring up, suggest or note?	May 07 10:45
Southern_Gentlem	hold on let me check on something	May 07 10:45
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Southern_Gentlem	i was asked if we wanted to add *!*@freenode/staff/* +votiA to #fedora and #fedora-ops, these indicate that the channel founders want us to handle trolls/spammers if none of the chanops are around	May 07 10:47
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nirik	well, I think we have reasonable converage these days... but I don't really think it would matter if they want to do it...	May 07 10:48
lunitik	What does +votiA do exactly? I think staffers have enough power to deal with things already?	May 07 10:48
zcat	don't the freenode ops kline anyway?	May 07 10:48
Southern_Gentlem	only if it crosses channels	May 07 10:48
Southern_Gentlem	lunitik, its just that they have permission if it is contained to one channel	May 07 10:49
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zcat	how many freenode staff are in #fedora? (i can't easily grep the list using xchat)	May 07 10:49
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Southern_Gentlem	that i know of	May 07 10:50
Southern_Gentlem	Udontknow and Dlange	May 07 10:50
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*thomasj thought staff has the power to do single channel as well		May 07 10:50
lunitik	Southern_Gentlem: I think it's a good idea if they're active enough etc... but I'm not sure the ops already in those channels aren't active enough?	May 07 10:50
lunitik	Southern_Gentlem: Seems unnecessary, but useful at the same time	May 07 10:51
Southern_Gentlem	but i think nowadays we have enough op coverage that it isnt an issue	May 07 10:51
nirik	I think it would be fine for them to deal with spammers... trolls are harder as sometimes thats a judgement call... and I'm not sure they know our op guidelines...	May 07 10:52
Southern_Gentlem	thomasj, they do but they dont unless someone in the channel complains	May 07 10:52
thomasj	Southern_Gentlem, then i guess i dont understand why they need/want +votiA	May 07 10:52
thomasj	Southern_Gentlem, but i dont care. If they want/need it. I like them.	May 07 10:53
Southern_Gentlem	these indicate that the channel founders want us to handle trolls/spammers if none of the chanops are around	May 07 10:53
thomasj	right.. sorry..	May 07 10:53
Southern_Gentlem	thats is what i know	May 07 10:53
nirik	also, it could be difficult for them to know when ops are around... as we don't op unless needed and/or use the bot	May 07 10:53
lunitik	Southern_Gentlem: ahh, so this isn't a staffers request, but something from the founders of the channel?	May 07 10:54
thomasj	nirik, +1	May 07 10:54
Southern_Gentlem	lunitik, it was from a staffer	May 07 10:54
Southern_Gentlem	0	May 07 10:55
lunitik	Yeah, I don't understand why they'd need it, and it could make situations worse if they do something a normal op wouldn't	May 07 10:55
nirik	I guess I would like to get more info before deciding... perhaps we could talk to them next week and see about deciding next meeting?	May 07 10:55
thomasj	+1 again	May 07 10:55
Southern_Gentlem	nirik i think for now to drop it since we have plenty of coverage for now	May 07 10:55
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Southern_Gentlem	if we get short handed we can take another look at it	May 07 10:55
nirik	Southern_Gentlem: ok, we could do that too.	May 07 10:55
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nirik	ok, anything else anyone would like to bring up, comment on or note?	May 07 10:56
Southern_Gentlem	shoot it	May 07 10:58
nirik	ok, will close out the meeting in 60 sec if nothing else comes up	May 07 10:58
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nirik	thanks for coming everyone!	May 07 10:59
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