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| colspan="2" | =-= ianweller has changed the topic to ``woo marketing meeting'' | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | themayor: hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | hey | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | were in here now? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | yup | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay that works | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | thanks stickster for setting it up | |||
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| colspan="2" | * lcafiero has been here | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | mizmo | |||
| style="color: #488888" | hi | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Just in case :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | zodbot also keeps logs | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | MostafaDaneshvar | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hey | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | r0xc0rp | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | fine ;) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay are we all here? | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | (raise your hand if you're not here) | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | Max | |||
|| [[#t22:06:20|22:06]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | roll call please | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Steven Moix | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | r0xc0rp | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | Tiago Vieira | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | MostafaDaneshvar | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | Mostafa Daneshvar | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so i assume thats that | |||
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| colspan="2" | * stickster . | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | let me pull up the schedule | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | and mizmo is here too | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | mizmo | |||
| style="color: #488888" | yo | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the talking points are done | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback? | |||
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| colspan="2" | * moixs is looking at them right now | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | The separation between different types of users is fine | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed? | |||
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| colspan="2" | * ianweller has read them and likes them | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | anyone else? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | or are people reading | |||
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| colspan="2" | * spevack consults the page history | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I don't want to block the rest of the agenda | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | There's much to do! | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | Jack, let's get together later on | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | wanna tell everyone whats going on with them | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | for the pbook? | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | or something else | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the banner | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome | |||
|| [[#t22:18:18|22:18]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | havent seen one yet | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | s/is/are/ | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | oooh i just saw | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | themayor: :D | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | and picture book submissinos are now open. | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | i haven't checked the pictures category yet | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the three folders or envelope or whatever | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | they're on the talk page of that submitting page | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | awesome | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | so we are well on our way | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | yup | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | flood the planet | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i will do one tonight | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | i'll also be lurking the upload log | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | see if any get in without adding the right categories | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | awesome | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | let jus know | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | now we await as many pictures as possible | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | brno will bring quite a few in | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | also, we changed the submission policy slightly | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials | |||
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| colspan="2" | * ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | oh. ok | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | nicu and i were discussing the submission policy | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes) | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book. | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay great | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | we could still use mockups | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | more specifically | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | to give the page a fresh outlook | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | and either try to make it something current and maintainable | |||
|| [[#t22:26:58|22:26]] | |||
|- id="t22:27:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | or to retire it completely and Archive: it | |||
|| [[#t22:27:04|22:27]] | |||
|- id="t22:27:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | this came up last week | |||
|| [[#t22:27:09|22:27]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | but there is no owner | |||
|| [[#t22:27:13|22:27]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested. | |||
|| [[#t22:27:30|22:27]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah | |||
|| [[#t22:27:50|22:27]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p | |||
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|- id="t22:28:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i was wondering if anyone was interested | |||
|| [[#t22:28:01|22:28]] | |||
|- id="t22:28:12" | |||
| colspan="2" | * spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list | |||
|| [[#t22:28:12|22:28]] | |||
|- id="t22:28:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | but if not we will move on | |||
|| [[#t22:28:15|22:28]] | |||
|- id="t22:28:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers | |||
|| [[#t22:28:26|22:28]] | |||
|- id="t22:28:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I have a suggestion about this | |||
|| [[#t22:28:51|22:28]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | go ahead | |||
|| [[#t22:28:59|22:28]] | |||
|- id="t22:29:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today) | |||
|| [[#t22:29:21|22:29]] | |||
|- id="t22:29:35" | |||
| colspan="2" | * spevack remembers | |||
|| [[#t22:29:35|22:29]] | |||
|- id="t22:29:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be | |||
|| [[#t22:29:48|22:29]] | |||
|- id="t22:30:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | come up with ideas etc | |||
|| [[#t22:30:07|22:30]] | |||
|- id="t22:30:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner | |||
|| [[#t22:30:48|22:30]] | |||
|- id="t22:30:51" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it | |||
|| [[#t22:30:51|22:30]] | |||
|- id="t22:31:47" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so. | |||
|| [[#t22:31:47|22:31]] | |||
|- id="t22:32:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so shall we move it down on the schedule | |||
|| [[#t22:32:02|22:32]] | |||
|- id="t22:32:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it | |||
|| [[#t22:32:09|22:32]] | |||
|- id="t22:32:24" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so i am moving it into the next step | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | err, nect phase | |||
|| [[#t22:32:29|22:32]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and putting your name on it | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | done | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay great | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay great | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | next topic | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the in depth feature focus | |||
|| [[#t22:33:53|22:33]] | |||
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| colspan="2" | * spevack perks up | |||
|| [[#t22:34:00|22:34]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | |||
|| [[#t22:34:09|22:34]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yes | |||
|| [[#t22:34:14|22:34]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | sorry to interrupt, carry on :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | thanks max for putting them up | |||
|| [[#t22:34:43|22:34]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | stickster has already started work on one of them | |||
|| [[#t22:35:09|22:35]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon | |||
|| [[#t22:35:23|22:35]] | |||
|- id="t22:35:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11 | |||
|| [[#t22:35:33|22:35]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy | |||
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| colspan="2" | * stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | volume control | |||
|| [[#t22:36:56|22:36]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and virt improved console | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we should really be on top of these | |||
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|- id="t22:37:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue. | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | *feature | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | you want me to send out something? | |||
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|- id="t22:38:50" | |||
| colspan="2" | * spevack thought we talked about that on thursday | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | so... yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | no we said i was going to work on mine | |||
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|- id="t22:39:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we didnt say send something to the list | |||
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|- id="t22:39:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | at least not that i recall | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | sorry if im mistaken | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | well, let's get some list discussion | |||
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|- id="t22:39:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay ill send that out after the meeting then | |||
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|- id="t22:39:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!" | |||
|| [[#t22:39:45|22:39]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | kind of like what stickster did | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah i asked kristian for some time | |||
|| [[#t22:40:01|22:40]] | |||
|- id="t22:40:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template. | |||
|| [[#t22:40:01|22:40]] | |||
|- id="t22:40:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so | |||
|| [[#t22:40:19|22:40]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | its good its a start | |||
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|- id="t22:40:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others | |||
|| [[#t22:40:39|22:40]] | |||
|- id="t22:41:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | sure | |||
|| [[#t22:41:12|22:41]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting | |||
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|- id="t22:41:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now. | |||
|| [[#t22:41:45|22:41]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | brilliant | |||
|| [[#t22:41:51|22:41]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in | |||
|| [[#t22:42:14|22:42]] | |||
|- id="t22:42:26" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Are we done with the short-term task list? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | one last quick thing | |||
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| colspan="2" | * herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place | |||
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|- id="t22:44:06" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting | |||
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|- id="t22:44:20" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | herlo: the in depth features? | |||
|| [[#t22:44:20|22:44]] | |||
|- id="t22:44:27" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | yes | |||
|| [[#t22:44:27|22:44]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take. | |||
|| [[#t22:44:45|22:44]] | |||
|- id="t22:44:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing | |||
|| [[#t22:44:48|22:44]] | |||
|- id="t22:44:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | like me | |||
|| [[#t22:44:48|22:44]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help? | |||
|| [[#t22:45:13|22:45]] | |||
|- id="t22:45:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try. | |||
|| [[#t22:45:13|22:45]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah | |||
|| [[#t22:45:51|22:45]] | |||
|- id="t22:45:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and then each page needs one as is created | |||
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|- id="t22:46:08" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list | |||
|| [[#t22:46:08|22:46]] | |||
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|- id="t22:46:29" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help | |||
|| [[#t22:46:29|22:46]] | |||
|- id="t22:47:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yup | |||
|| [[#t22:47:02|22:47]] | |||
|- id="t22:47:47" | |||
| colspan="2" | * herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through? | |||
|| [[#t22:47:47|22:47]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:05" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | herlo: whats left is volume control | |||
|| [[#t22:48:05|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:10" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and virt improved console | |||
|| [[#t22:48:10|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | oh | |||
|| [[#t22:48:12|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:16" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | is there a list? | |||
|| [[#t22:48:16|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:19" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yes | |||
|| [[#t22:48:19|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | |||
|| [[#t22:48:22|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:34" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick | |||
|| [[#t22:48:34|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | |||
|| [[#t22:48:37|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:44" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | thanks spevack | |||
|| [[#t22:48:44|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:48:48" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: OK,done | |||
|| [[#t22:48:48|22:48]] | |||
|- id="t22:49:13" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features | |||
|| [[#t22:49:13|22:49]] | |||
|- id="t22:49:22" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | stickster: sweet! | |||
|| [[#t22:49:22|22:49]] | |||
|- id="t22:50:02" | |||
| colspan="2" | * herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too | |||
|| [[#t22:50:02|22:50]] | |||
|- id="t22:50:31" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page? | |||
|| [[#t22:50:31|22:50]] | |||
|- id="t22:50:41" | |||
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | spevack | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | whatever works | |||
|| [[#t22:50:41|22:50]] | |||
|- id="t22:50:54" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes | |||
|| [[#t22:50:54|22:50]] | |||
|- id="t22:50:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | herlo: Already eon | |||
|| [[#t22:50:59|22:50]] | |||
|- id="t22:51:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | *done | |||
|| [[#t22:51:01|22:51]] | |||
|- id="t22:51:09" | |||
| colspan="2" | * herlo double looks | |||
|| [[#t22:51:09|22:51]] | |||
|- id="t22:51:18" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | so it is | |||
|| [[#t22:51:18|22:51]] | |||
|- id="t22:51:35" | |||
| colspan="2" | * herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it | |||
|| [[#t22:51:35|22:51]] | |||
|- id="t22:51:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #97974f" | herlo | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page... | |||
|| [[#t22:51:59|22:51]] | |||
|- id="t22:52:38" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | okay | |||
|| [[#t22:52:38|22:52]] | |||
|- id="t22:52:40" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | so next | |||
|| [[#t22:52:40|22:52]] | |||
|- id="t22:52:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow | |||
|| [[#t22:52:45|22:52]] | |||
|- id="t22:53:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | does anyone want me to bring up anything | |||
|| [[#t22:53:37|22:53]] | |||
|- id="t22:53:45" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | not really on my side | |||
|| [[#t22:53:45|22:53]] | |||
|- id="t22:54:07" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate | |||
|| [[#t22:54:07|22:54]] | |||
|- id="t22:54:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | thats really what i hope to get out of it | |||
|| [[#t22:54:17|22:54]] | |||
|- id="t22:54:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us" | |||
|| [[#t22:54:33|22:54]] | |||
|- id="t22:54:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yup | |||
|| [[#t22:54:49|22:54]] | |||
|- id="t22:55:33" | |||
| colspan="2" | =-= mizmo is now known as mizmo-out | |||
|| [[#t22:55:33|22:55]] | |||
|- id="t22:56:49" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no" | |||
|| [[#t22:56:49|22:56]] | |||
|- id="t22:57:09" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | yeah | |||
|| [[#t22:57:09|22:57]] | |||
|- id="t22:57:17" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | alright | |||
|| [[#t22:57:17|22:57]] | |||
|- id="t22:57:32" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in | |||
|| [[#t22:57:32|22:57]] | |||
|- id="t22:57:42" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | PICTURE! | |||
|| [[#t22:57:42|22:57]] | |||
|- id="t22:57:57" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | BOOK! | |||
|| [[#t22:57:57|22:57]] | |||
|- id="t22:58:00" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | ,,, | |||
|| [[#t22:58:00|22:58]] | |||
|- id="t22:58:02" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | oh ok you got it | |||
|| [[#t22:58:02|22:58]] | |||
|- id="t22:58:12" | |||
! style="background-color: #42427e" | ianweller | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions? | |||
|| [[#t22:58:12|22:58]] | |||
|- id="t22:59:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them | |||
|| [[#t22:59:11|22:59]] | |||
|- id="t22:59:59" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | What's up for next week? | |||
|| [[#t22:59:59|22:59]] | |||
|- id="t23:00:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set. | |||
|| [[#t23:00:01|23:00]] | |||
|- id="t23:00:03" | |||
| colspan="2" | * stickster looks at schedule | |||
|| [[#t23:00:03|23:00]] | |||
|- id="t23:00:04" | |||
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|| [[#t23:00:04|23:00]] | |||
|- id="t23:00:37" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications | |||
|| [[#t23:00:37|23:00]] | |||
|- id="t23:00:53" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow | |||
|| [[#t23:00:53|23:00]] | |||
|- id="t23:01:11" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | For the other languages, the list is pretty good | |||
|| [[#t23:01:11|23:01]] | |||
|- id="t23:01:15" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | eof | |||
|| [[#t23:01:15|23:01]] | |||
|- id="t23:01:33" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | brief famsco on stuff | |||
|| [[#t23:01:33|23:01]] | |||
|- id="t23:01:39" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | who here goes to the famsco meetings? | |||
|| [[#t23:01:39|23:01]] | |||
|- id="t23:01:55" | |||
! style="background-color: #854685" | stickster | |||
| style="color: #854685" | I think spevack is usually at them | |||
|| [[#t23:01:55|23:01]] | |||
|- id="t23:02:21" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | max can you pick that up then? | |||
|| [[#t23:02:21|23:02]] | |||
|- id="t23:03:58" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i think he left | |||
|| [[#t23:03:58|23:03]] | |||
|- id="t23:04:01" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | anyway | |||
|| [[#t23:04:01|23:04]] | |||
|- id="t23:04:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | we are over time already | |||
|| [[#t23:04:04|23:04]] | |||
|- id="t23:04:36" | |||
! style="background-color: #407a40" | moixs | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, let's call it a day then :) | |||
|| [[#t23:04:36|23:04]] | |||
|- id="t23:05:04" | |||
! style="background-color: #818144" | themayor | |||
| style="color: #818144" | lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week | |||
|| [[#t23:05:04|23:05]] | |||
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moixs | So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :) | 22:02 |
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ianweller | themayor: hi | 22:02 |
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themayor | hey | 22:02 |
themayor | were in here now? | 22:03 |
stickster | yup | 22:03 |
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themayor | okay that works | 22:03 |
themayor | thanks stickster for setting it up | 22:03 |
* lcafiero has been here | 22:03 | |
mizmo | hi | 22:03 |
moixs | Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;) | 22:03 |
moixs | Just in case :) | 22:04 |
ianweller | zodbot also keeps logs | 22:04 |
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MostafaDaneshvar | hey | 22:04 |
r0xc0rp | Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps | 22:05 |
moixs | fine ;) | 22:05 |
themayor | okay are we all here? | 22:06 |
ianweller | (raise your hand if you're not here) | 22:06 |
spevack | Max | 22:06 |
themayor | roll call please | 22:06 |
moixs | Steven Moix | 22:06 |
r0xc0rp | Tiago Vieira | 22:06 |
MostafaDaneshvar | Mostafa Daneshvar | 22:06 |
themayor | okay so i assume thats that | 22:07 |
* stickster . | 22:07 | |
themayor | let me pull up the schedule | 22:08 |
ianweller | and mizmo is here too | 22:08 |
mizmo | yo | 22:08 |
themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule | 22:08 |
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themayor | im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs | 22:09 |
themayor | the talking points are done | 22:09 |
themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points | 22:09 |
themayor | stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback? | 22:10 |
* moixs is looking at them right now | 22:10 | |
stickster | themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night? | 22:11 |
moixs | The separation between different types of users is fine | 22:11 |
themayor | stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed? | 22:11 |
* ianweller has read them and likes them | 22:12 | |
themayor | anyone else? | 22:13 |
spevack | how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them? | 22:13 |
themayor | or are people reading | 22:13 |
* spevack consults the page history | 22:13 | |
themayor | spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about | 22:13 |
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spevack | stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta? | 22:15 |
stickster | spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine | 22:15 |
stickster | I don't want to block the rest of the agenda | 22:15 |
stickster | There's much to do! | 22:15 |
stickster | Jack, let's get together later on | 22:15 |
themayor | okay | 22:15 |
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themayor | okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff? | 22:17 |
themayor | wanna tell everyone whats going on with them | 22:17 |
ianweller | for the pbook? | 22:17 |
ianweller | or something else | 22:17 |
ianweller | i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page | 22:18 |
themayor | yeah | 22:18 |
themayor | the banner | 22:18 |
ianweller | banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome | 22:18 |
ianweller | it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up | 22:18 |
stickster | ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome | 22:18 |
ianweller | the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;) | 22:18 |
themayor | havent seen one yet | 22:18 |
ianweller | s/is/are/ | 22:18 |
stickster | ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe | 22:19 |
themayor | oooh i just saw | 22:19 |
ianweller | themayor: :D | 22:19 |
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ianweller | and picture book submissinos are now open. | 22:19 |
ianweller | i haven't checked the pictures category yet | 22:19 |
themayor | the three folders or envelope or whatever | 22:19 |
ianweller | but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos | 22:19 |
ianweller | they're on the talk page of that submitting page | 22:19 |
themayor | awesome | 22:20 |
themayor | so we are well on our way | 22:20 |
ianweller | yup | 22:20 |
themayor | please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so | 22:20 |
ianweller | yeah | 22:20 |
ianweller | flood the planet | 22:20 |
themayor | i will do one tonight | 22:21 |
ianweller | i'll also be lurking the upload log | 22:21 |
ianweller | see if any get in without adding the right categories | 22:21 |
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themayor | awesome | 22:22 |
themayor | let jus know | 22:22 |
ianweller | now we await as many pictures as possible | 22:22 |
ianweller | brno will bring quite a few in | 22:23 |
ianweller | also, we changed the submission policy slightly | 22:23 |
themayor | okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials | 22:23 |
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* ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;) | 22:23 | |
themayor | ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log | 22:23 |
ianweller | oh. ok | 22:23 |
ianweller | nicu and i were discussing the submission policy | 22:23 |
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ianweller | ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one | 22:24 |
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moixs | (please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes) | 22:24 |
ianweller | this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed | 22:24 |
ianweller | so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book. | 22:24 |
ianweller | that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week | 22:25 |
themayor | okay great | 22:25 |
ianweller | we could still use mockups | 22:25 |
ianweller | :) | 22:25 |
* ianweller hands the floor back to themayor | 22:25 | |
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* herlo is here | 22:26 | |
themayor | okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials | 22:26 |
spevack | more specifically | 22:26 |
spevack | to give the page a fresh outlook | 22:26 |
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spevack | and either try to make it something current and maintainable | 22:26 |
spevack | or to retire it completely and Archive: it | 22:27 |
spevack | this came up last week | 22:27 |
spevack | but there is no owner | 22:27 |
moixs | As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested. | 22:27 |
themayor | yeah | 22:27 |
moixs | other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p | 22:27 |
themayor | i was wondering if anyone was interested | 22:28 |
* spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list | 22:28 | |
themayor | but if not we will move on | 22:28 |
spevack | an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers | 22:28 |
moixs | I have a suggestion about this | 22:28 |
spevack | go ahead | 22:28 |
moixs | As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today) | 22:29 |
* spevack remembers | 22:29 | |
moixs | I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be | 22:29 |
moixs | come up with ideas etc | 22:30 |
moixs | This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner | 22:30 |
themayor | moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it | 22:30 |
moixs | themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so. | 22:31 |
themayor | okay so shall we move it down on the schedule | 22:32 |
moixs | themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it | 22:32 |
themayor | okay so i am moving it into the next step | 22:32 |
themayor | err, nect phase | 22:32 |
themayor | and putting your name on it | 22:32 |
moixs | done | 22:32 |
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themayor | okay great | 22:32 |
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moixs | themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase | 22:33 |
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themayor | okay great | 22:33 |
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themayor | next topic | 22:33 |
themayor | the in depth feature focus | 22:33 |
* spevack perks up | 22:34 | |
spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:34 |
themayor | yes | 22:34 |
spevack | sorry to interrupt, carry on :) | 22:34 |
themayor | thanks max for putting them up | 22:34 |
themayor | stickster has already started work on one of them | 22:35 |
themayor | i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon | 22:35 |
stickster | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11 | 22:35 |
themayor | i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy | 22:35 |
* stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time | 22:35 | |
themayor | okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet | 22:36 |
themayor | volume control | 22:36 |
themayor | and virt improved console | 22:37 |
themayor | we should really be on top of these | 22:37 |
stickster | themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue. | 22:37 |
stickster | *feature | 22:37 |
spevack | was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight? | 22:37 |
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themayor | aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no | 22:38 |
themayor | you want me to send out something? | 22:38 |
* spevack thought we talked about that on thursday | 22:38 | |
spevack | so... yeah | 22:38 |
themayor | no we said i was going to work on mine | 22:39 |
themayor | we didnt say send something to the list | 22:39 |
themayor | at least not that i recall | 22:39 |
themayor | sorry if im mistaken | 22:39 |
spevack | well, let's get some list discussion | 22:39 |
themayor | okay ill send that out after the meeting then | 22:39 |
spevack | themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!" | 22:39 |
spevack | kind of like what stickster did | 22:39 |
themayor | yeah i asked kristian for some time | 22:40 |
stickster | I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template. | 22:40 |
stickster | In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so | 22:40 |
themayor | its good its a start | 22:40 |
spevack | ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others | 22:40 |
themayor | sure | 22:41 |
themayor | and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting | 22:41 |
moixs | Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now. | 22:41 |
spevack | brilliant | 22:41 |
spevack | moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in | 22:42 |
themayor | moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again | 22:42 |
moixs | Are we done with the short-term task list? | 22:43 |
themayor | one last quick thing | 22:43 |
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* herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place | 22:44 | |
themayor | tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting | 22:44 |
themayor | herlo: the in depth features? | 22:44 |
herlo | yes | 22:44 |
herlo | themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take. | 22:44 |
stickster | herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing | 22:44 |
herlo | like me | 22:44 |
herlo | :) | 22:45 |
themayor | stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help? | 22:45 |
stickster | herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try. | 22:45 |
herlo | well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom | 22:45 |
themayor | yeah | 22:45 |
themayor | and then each page needs one as is created | 22:45 |
herlo | then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list | 22:46 |
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herlo | themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help | 22:46 |
themayor | yup | 22:47 |
* herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through? | 22:47 | |
themayor | herlo: whats left is volume control | 22:48 |
themayor | and virt improved console | 22:48 |
herlo | oh | 22:48 |
herlo | is there a list? | 22:48 |
themayor | yes | 22:48 |
spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:48 |
herlo | I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick | 22:48 |
themayor | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features | 22:48 |
themayor | thanks spevack | 22:48 |
stickster | herlo: OK,done | 22:48 |
stickster | https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features | 22:49 |
herlo | stickster: sweet! | 22:49 |
* herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too | 22:50 | |
herlo | I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page? | 22:50 |
spevack | whatever works | 22:50 |
herlo | well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes | 22:50 |
stickster | herlo: Already eon | 22:50 |
stickster | *done | 22:51 |
* herlo double looks | 22:51 | |
herlo | so it is | 22:51 |
* herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it | 22:51 | |
herlo | okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page... | 22:51 |
themayor | okay | 22:52 |
themayor | so next | 22:52 |
themayor | the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow | 22:52 |
themayor | does anyone want me to bring up anything | 22:53 |
moixs | not really on my side | 22:53 |
themayor | this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate | 22:54 |
themayor | thats really what i hope to get out of it | 22:54 |
stickster | themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us" | 22:54 |
themayor | yup | 22:54 |
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stickster | OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no" | 22:56 |
themayor | yeah | 22:57 |
themayor | alright | 22:57 |
themayor | so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in | 22:57 |
ianweller | PICTURE! | 22:57 |
stickster | BOOK! | 22:57 |
ianweller | ,,, | 22:58 |
ianweller | oh ok you got it | 22:58 |
ianweller | umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions? | 22:58 |
themayor | we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them | 22:59 |
stickster | What's up for next week? | 22:59 |
moixs | On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set. | 23:00 |
* stickster looks at schedule | 23:00 | |
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moixs | On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications | 23:00 |
moixs | i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow | 23:00 |
moixs | For the other languages, the list is pretty good | 23:01 |
moixs | eof | 23:01 |
themayor | brief famsco on stuff | 23:01 |
themayor | who here goes to the famsco meetings? | 23:01 |
stickster | I think spevack is usually at them | 23:01 |
themayor | max can you pick that up then? | 23:02 |
themayor | i think he left | 23:03 |
themayor | anyway | 23:04 |
themayor | we are over time already | 23:04 |
moixs | ok, let's call it a day then :) | 23:04 |
themayor | lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week | 23:05 |