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* [jlaska+adamw] mediawiki semantic update (packaging and hosting) | |||
* [adamw] schedule radeon test day | |||
* [adamw] review OPEN installer bugs and escalate appropriate issues to F11Beta blocker list | |||
* [jlaska] email fedora-test-list@ with call for testing of rawhide installs | |||
** will review test results at end of day Thursday for a slip decision | |||
* [jlaska] build XFCE live images and request fedorapeople hosting from jeremy | |||
* [jlaska] find Beta Release notes wiki page? (thanks to frields ... [[Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes]]) | |||
= Next QA meeting = | = Next QA meeting = |
Revision as of 19:06, 18 March 2009
Fedora QA Meeting Date: 2009-03-18
Attendees
- Jesse Keating (f13)
- James Laska (jlaska)
- Adam Williamson (adamw)
- Will Woods (wwoods)
- Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking_ice)
Previous meeting follow-up
Follow-up from last meeting http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090311.log.html
- [jlaska&adamw] mediawiki semantic* packaging
- mediawiki-semantic http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7968
- mediawiki-semantic-forms package review bug#490171
- next steps to setup & configure a test instance and incorporate live data
- [adamw] - intel test day was a success, we're hoping to have an intel follow up later before f11's release, to test fixes for the issues identified at the first event
- [jlaska] - DeviceKit test day was successful in identifying several key bugs, but the event did not have the level of participation we hoped for.
F-11-Beta - who/what/when/where/why?
> F-11 Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
> When to start testing? > Where are the images?
> Where to record test results - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results
> Current list of open Beta blockers - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=476774&hide_resolved=1
> Beta release notes?
Upcoming QA events
> XFCE Test Day [1] > Nouveau Test Day [2]
Open discussion
> SysRq wiki page ... where should that content live? > beaker project has a logo :)
Action items
- [jlaska+adamw] mediawiki semantic update (packaging and hosting)
- [adamw] schedule radeon test day
- [adamw] review OPEN installer bugs and escalate appropriate issues to F11Beta blocker list
- [jlaska] email fedora-test-list@ with call for testing of rawhide installs
- will review test results at end of day Thursday for a slip decision
- [jlaska] build XFCE live images and request fedorapeople hosting from jeremy
- [jlaska] find Beta Release notes wiki page? (thanks to frields ... Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes)
Next QA meeting
No time was left to discuss a new time for next weeks meeting. We will continue with 17:00 UTC unless otherwise noted on fedora-test-list.
The next meeting will be held on 2009-03-25 17:00 UTC (1pm EDT).
IRC Transcript
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jlaska | | Let's wait a few for folks to adjust to the changed meeting time | Mar 18 12:01 |
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jlaska | | adamw: f13: wwoods (not expected today): viking_ice | Mar 18 12:02 |
viking_ice | | * | Mar 18 12:02 |
jlaska | | anyone I missed, please raise your hands :) | Mar 18 12:02 |
jlaska | | viking_ice: hello | Mar 18 12:03 |
* | f13 | Mar 18 12:03 | |
viking_ice | | greetings | Mar 18 12:03 |
jlaska | | f13: welcome | Mar 18 12:03 |
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* | jlaska waits another minute or so | Mar 18 12:04 | |
adamw | | yo | Mar 18 12:06 |
jlaska | | heyo! | Mar 18 12:06 |
adamw | | sorry, i am involved in a vigorous and enthusiastic discussion in -devel | Mar 18 12:06 |
adamw | | ;) | Mar 18 12:06 |
jlaska | | okay, I think we have critical mass | Mar 18 12:06 |
jlaska | | no worries :) | Mar 18 12:06 |
jlaska | | my goal is to keep this under 1 hour today ... so let's git'er done | Mar 18 12:07 |
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jlaska | | the best I can discern from last weeks minutes is the semantic open it | Mar 18 12:07 |
jlaska | | em | Mar 18 12:07 |
jlaska | | [jlaska&adamw] mediawiki semantic* packaging | Mar 18 12:07 |
* | wwoods kinda here but will be leaving in a bit | Mar 18 12:07 | |
jlaska | | wwoods: welcome! | Mar 18 12:08 |
jlaska | | made some good progress on the packaging, I decided not to bug adamw with that just yet since things were going fairly well | Mar 18 12:08 |
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jlaska | | one package reviewed and build ... another inprogress | Mar 18 12:08 |
jlaska | | * mediawiki-semantic http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7968 | Mar 18 12:08 |
jlaska | | * mediawiki-semantic-forms package review bug#490171 | Mar 18 12:08 |
buggbot | | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=490171 medium, medium, ---, nobody, NEW, Review Request: mediawiki-semantic-forms - An extension to MediaWiki that adds support for web-based forms | Mar 18 12:08 |
adamw | | yes, I have been dynamically and enthusiastically leaving it to jlaska | Mar 18 12:08 |
adamw | | and expect full credit for this work =) | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | stickster and tibbs|h - thanks for guidance on the licensing for mediawiki-semantic-forms | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | adamw: hey, blame goes with the credit! :D | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | as far as next steps ... | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | * next steps to setup & configure a test instance and incorporate live data | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | I sent a request out ot fedora-infrastructure to see if I could get a dump of live wiki data for testing these extensions | Mar 18 12:09 |
jlaska | | this is definitely an area I could use assistance on | Mar 18 12:10 |
jlaska | | it's not hard to set this thing up at all ... just going to be important on how we document best practices etc... | Mar 18 12:10 |
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jlaska | | if anyone is interested in helping setup and play with mediawiki + semantic ... just let me know, I could use some extra eyes here | Mar 18 12:11 |
jlaska | | that's all I coudl pick out from last week's action items ... what did I miss? | Mar 18 12:11 |
adamw | | as i mentioned to you privately - poke fcami, as he requested it in the first place :) | Mar 18 12:12 |
adamw | | i'd like to play with it for test day results, but for that it needs to be up publicly somewhere really | Mar 18 12:12 |
jlaska | | indeed ... I'd like us to get really familiar with how to use this thing | Mar 18 12:12 |
jlaska | | once it's packaged, I can ask infrastructure for hosting and we can start playing around in a demo instance | Mar 18 12:13 |
adamw | | sure, i can come on board with playing about at that point. | Mar 18 12:13 |
jlaska | | great, that will be a big help | Mar 18 12:13 |
jlaska | | the guidance we have from the laptop.org folks is make sure we outline some best practices/policy before we unleash this | Mar 18 12:14 |
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jlaska | | ACTION: let's do another check-in next week on packaging, and hopefully status on a hosted demo site | Mar 18 12:14 |
jlaska | | any other topics from last week folks would like to raise status on? | Mar 18 12:14 |
adamw | | er, let me take a look at the summary for a sec | Mar 18 12:15 |
jlaska | | ... sure | Mar 18 12:15 |
adamw | | graphics test days - intel was held and successful | Mar 18 12:15 |
adamw | | still haven't organized radeon yet | Mar 18 12:15 |
adamw | | i'll send out a poke to the devs on that | Mar 18 12:15 |
adamw | | we're hoping to have an intel follow up later before f11's release, to test fixes for the issues identified at the first event | Mar 18 12:16 |
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jlaska | | ACTION: schedule radeon test day [adamw] | Mar 18 12:16 |
jlaska | | ^---- for my grepping sanity | Mar 18 12:16 |
jlaska | | adamw: nice job on the intel test day ... seems like you were very busy | Mar 18 12:17 |
jlaska | | lots of results (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-12) and data still coming in on the mailing list | Mar 18 12:17 |
jlaska | | yesterday was also the DeviceKit test day (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-17) | Mar 18 12:18 |
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jlaska | | we didn't get quite the turn out that Intel testing gathered | Mar 18 12:18 |
jlaska | | while a lot of the code for the DeviceKit feature is complete ... there are still interaction and UI quirks to iron out | Mar 18 12:19 |
jlaska | | so if folks have the time ... Live USB key + DeviceKit testing (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:DeviceKit_Test_Cases) is the way to go | Mar 18 12:20 |
jlaska | | any other topics from last week? | Mar 18 12:20 |
jlaska | | okay ... on to F-11-Beta ... | Mar 18 12:21 |
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jlaska | | wwoods provided a bullet list of discussion points ... which I'll summarize as the who/what/when/where/why's of the F-11-Beta | Mar 18 12:22 |
jlaska | | > F-11 Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule | Mar 18 12:22 |
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jlaska | | f13: do you have any updates from release engineering with respect to the Beta? | Mar 18 12:23 |
f13 | | nothing good to say. | Mar 18 12:23 |
f13 | | anaconda still not ready. | Mar 18 12:23 |
adamw | | refer to the recent vigorous and enthusiastic discussion in -devel :) | Mar 18 12:23 |
jlaska | | from a schedule perspective, do you anticipate any changes there? | Mar 18 12:24 |
f13 | | if I don't get a golden tree in the form of tomorrow's rawhide, I think we slip. | Mar 18 12:24 |
f13 | | as it is we're damn close to the wire. | Mar 18 12:24 |
jlaska | | indeed ... Beta is scheduled to hit the mirrors on 03/24 ? | Mar 18 12:25 |
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f13 | | no, that's when its supposed to GA | Mar 18 12:26 |
f13 | | to hit that date, we have to be available to mirrors the 20th or the 21st | Mar 18 12:26 |
jlaska | | so a few days prior for the mirrors? | Mar 18 12:26 |
jlaska | | so we have < 2 days to compose then test a beta candidate? | Mar 18 12:26 |
f13 | | that is correct sir. | Mar 18 12:27 |
jlaska | | the current F11Beta blocker list isn't too bad ... but I think it's the what's lurking behind door#2 that concerns you? | Mar 18 12:27 |
f13 | | once again we're to the point of "either the one we finally get to make is right, or we slip" | Mar 18 12:27 |
jlaska | | F11Beta blockers - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=476774&hide_resolved=1 | Mar 18 12:27 |
f13 | | jlaska: I think a /lot/ of the storage bugs just aren't filed and/or listed in F11Beta | Mar 18 12:28 |
jlaska | | what information do you need to make a slip vs no slip recommendation? | Mar 18 12:28 |
f13 | | a real good idea of what storage bugs exist | Mar 18 12:28 |
f13 | | a what works, vs what doesn't work, vs what hasn't been tested | Mar 18 12:29 |
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jlaska | | so that leads us to the test results wiki page created by wwoods https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results | Mar 18 12:29 |
f13 | | I'm making some pre-beta candidate images right now in phx that has today's rawhide + newer anaconda and python-pyblock | Mar 18 12:29 |
f13 | | jlaska: well the installer guys know some of this, but they aren't sharing with bugzilla. | Mar 18 12:30 |
adamw | | so basically you need us/bugzappers to be looking through anaconda storage bugs and trying to get appropriate ones on the blocker list? | Mar 18 12:30 |
jlaska | | adamw: is that possible? I'd be curious what total number of untriaged isntallation bugs we have post F11-Alpha | Mar 18 12:31 |
f13 | | adamw: yes, but again I think a lot of the known issues just aren't filed as bugs | Mar 18 12:31 |
jlaska | | I suspect we had a few test blockers that prevent us from hitting more interesting installer bugs | Mar 18 12:31 |
adamw | | jlaska: i'll see if anyone in Bugzappers would be willing to look at that | Mar 18 12:31 |
adamw | | jlaska: i can give you a number on untriaged installation bugs, btw, give me a few seconds | Mar 18 12:31 |
jlaska | | adamw: thank you | Mar 18 12:32 |
f13 | | and part of that problem has been new bugs introduced with changes to fix old bugs preventing further install testing. | Mar 18 12:32 |
adamw | | jlaska: what date did alpha come out, off the top of your head? | Mar 18 12:32 |
jlaska | | around 2009-02-01 | Mar 18 12:32 |
jlaska | | timestamp = 1233543911.73 | Mar 18 12:32 |
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jlaska | | f13: are we at the point where we have enough confidence that we can reach out for beta install testers to help flesh out https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results | Mar 18 12:33 |
adamw | | ok - there are 42 bugs in NEW status filed on any anaconda component in rawhide since 2009-02-01 | Mar 18 12:33 |
adamw | | this is the list: | Mar 18 12:33 |
adamw | | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&component=anaconda&component=anaconda-help&component=anaconda-images&component=anaconda-yum-plugins&version=rawhide&bug_status=NEW&chfieldfrom=2009-02-01&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug%20creation] | Mar 18 12:33 |
buggbot | | <http://tinyurl.com/dgtlnk> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | Mar 18 12:33 |
f13 | | jlaska: yes, although we may have to feed them updates.img files | Mar 18 12:34 |
adamw | | NEW status means it's untriaged (and unlikely to have been touched by bugzappers or maintainers) | Mar 18 12:34 |
f13 | | jlaska: we should have had them banging away at the results page from the day of freeze | Mar 18 12:34 |
jlaska | | f13: certainly earlier the better ... not sure how much progress we would have made given some key test blockers on storage | Mar 18 12:35 |
adamw | | f13: so it would be useful to you for qa/bugzappers to go through that list and get appropriate ones onto the blocker list? if so i'll try and get that done. | Mar 18 12:35 |
f13 | | jlaska: we would have at least known where the bugs were and had them recorded in bugzilla. | Mar 18 12:35 |
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jlaska | | f13: possibly ... but that's what test blockers are ... we don't konw what lurks behind them | Mar 18 12:35 |
f13 | | adamw: sure, it'll give us something to review for block/noblock. | Mar 18 12:35 |
f13 | | jlaska: at this point, we don't even know what the test blockers /are/ | Mar 18 12:35 |
jlaska | | f13: but I agree knowing more at this point would arm us well for a beta recommendation | Mar 18 12:35 |
jlaska | | okay, I'll take an action item to put out a request for testing assistance | Mar 18 12:36 |
jlaska | | ACTION: [jlaska] email f-t-list with request for pre-beta test feedback in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results | Mar 18 12:37 |
f13 | | and a note somewhere that this page needs to be available at or before the freeze and we need to start getting results recorded at or before the freeze. | Mar 18 12:37 |
jlaska | | f13: can you get me a link or info on the updates.img (or if you can post directly to that wiki page)? | Mar 18 12:37 |
f13 | | I don't know if there is one being passed around yet today | Mar 18 12:37 |
jlaska | | f13: ah okay, I may have misunderstood a previous comment | Mar 18 12:38 |
jlaska | | I'm not aware of one for today either | Mar 18 12:38 |
f13 | | well, I saw mention of some but I think that's for further develoipment on storage branch not necessarily fixing critical beta bugs. | Mar 18 12:38 |
jlaska | | we still have an open issue that I don't think we have sufficient time to fill out the matrix | Mar 18 12:39 |
jlaska | | so as is usually the case, we may need ot make a decision with what info we have available | Mar 18 12:39 |
jlaska | | f13: if there are some high-level use cases related to installation that would give you a better sense for this release, we might choose to narrow the request for testing around those areas? | Mar 18 12:40 |
jlaska | | which reminds me ... anyone have the link for the Beta release notes so we can begin to drop content there? | Mar 18 12:40 |
f13 | | I don't know off hand, what is our "critical" path for beta? | Mar 18 12:40 |
f13 | | autopart using existing Linux, autopart using free space, autopart using entire disk, all of those + encryption | Mar 18 12:41 |
f13 | | various levels of custom partitioning | Mar 18 12:41 |
f13 | | clearing off existing LVM sets | Mar 18 12:41 |
jlaska | | everything from the part type screen was my initial focus for the storage test day | Mar 18 12:41 |
jlaska | | yeah you're list above is what I had in mind as well | Mar 18 12:42 |
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jlaska | | f13: okay, I'll see if we need to adjust the test results wiki accordingly and request focus on those areas | Mar 18 12:42 |
jlaska | | when should we review the results ... Friday? | Mar 18 12:42 |
f13 | | that's too late | Mar 18 12:43 |
f13 | | either thursday's rawhide (that's tomorrow) is good enough for beta, or we slip. | Mar 18 12:43 |
jlaska | | so end of day tomorrow? | Mar 18 12:43 |
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f13 | | jlaska: end of day, or first critical breakage, whichever comes first | Mar 18 12:44 |
jlaska | | sounds good ... we'll be in touch :D | Mar 18 12:44 |
jlaska | | okay ... any other comments on the Beta ? | Mar 18 12:44 |
jlaska | | adamw: do you think we can have the OPEN issues scrubbed in time for tomorrow by end of day? | Mar 18 12:45 |
jlaska | | OPEN == (NEW anaconda bugs) | Mar 18 12:45 |
f13 | | wait a sec, is this meeting an hour early today? | Mar 18 12:45 |
jlaska | | yes | Mar 18 12:46 |
f13 | | ok, no wonder my alarm didn't go off | Mar 18 12:46 |
jlaska | | f13: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00965.html | Mar 18 12:46 |
f13 | | I haven't gotten to email yet | Mar 18 12:46 |
jlaska | | no worries | Mar 18 12:46 |
adamw | | jlaska: i've sent requests to the irc chan and mailing list | Mar 18 12:46 |
jlaska | | adamw: thanks ... we'll see where we are tomorrow then | Mar 18 12:46 |
adamw | | jlaska: iarly is going to help out now, i will try and do some myself later too | Mar 18 12:46 |
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jlaska | | My google fu is failing to find a Beta release notes wiki page ... anyone know if that exists yet? | Mar 18 12:47 |
jlaska | | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Beta/ReleaseNotes is empty | Mar 18 12:47 |
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jlaska | | ... I'll find out an include in the minutes | Mar 18 12:47 |
jlaska | | ... okay rounding 3rd base </bad_sports_analogy> ... | Mar 18 12:48 |
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jlaska | | adamw has 2 test days upcoming ... | Mar 18 12:48 |
jlaska | | tomorrow > XFCE Test Day [3] | Mar 18 12:48 |
adamw | | xfce is pretty much planned except i need to finish off the test cases. i'll get that done today | Mar 18 12:49 |
jlaska | | and the following thursday > Nouveau Test Day [4] | Mar 18 12:49 |
adamw | | should've been promoted yesterday but i didn't have time, la la. | Mar 18 12:49 |
* | nirik was finally able to make xfce live isos and test last night. Hurray. | Mar 18 12:49 | |
jlaska | | adamw: you've got the mic ... | Mar 18 12:49 |
adamw | | nirik: ooh. could if we could have those available for the test day it'd be awesome | Mar 18 12:49 |
nirik | | yeah, I can see about uploading somewhere. | Mar 18 12:49 |
viking_ice | | spins ready for test day? | Mar 18 12:50 |
adamw | | nouveau is mostly ready too, still need to have the rendercheck packaging done (i'll bug ben about that), but we could go ahead without it. a live CD would be really great for that also. | Mar 18 12:50 |
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jlaska | | adamw: we can do the livecd for nouveau, I can build images and request hosting from jeremy (who has more quota) | Mar 18 12:50 |
viking_ice | | rule of thumb hw test == we need to hva livecd | Mar 18 12:50 |
viking_ice | | ready | Mar 18 12:50 |
jlaska | | viking_ice: agreed, the live images have been *very* handy for those test days | Mar 18 12:50 |
adamw | | nirik: jeremy has gigantic quota, we've just been sticking live CDs in his space for now. we could remove older ones after a while and update the link on the test day pages to point to the nwer ones. | Mar 18 12:51 |
viking_ice | | there were atleast 2 on the intel test day | Mar 18 12:51 |
viking_ice | | that needed live ( willing to test not willing to break box ) | Mar 18 12:51 |
nirik | | adamw: cool. If someone could make some and stick them up there that would be great. | Mar 18 12:51 |
jlaska | | nirik: you need someone to build the images for XFCE? | Mar 18 12:52 |
nirik | | I did make some minor ks changes last night. Requested them for the beta... so if you could, spin them from git head | Mar 18 12:52 |
nirik | | jlaska: well, I can build them here, but not sure how long upload will take. ;) If someone is closer net wise and has good upload that might be faster. | Mar 18 12:52 |
f13 | | I need to drop off so that I can get ready for my next meeting. | Mar 18 12:53 |
adamw | | jlaska: if you could help me out there it'd be awesome, i still haven't got used to the generator and i'm looking to have a busy rest of today with the xfce test cases and installer triaging stuff. plus i've got a haircut this afternoon :) | Mar 18 12:53 |
jlaska | | nirik: if you can send me which spin-kickstarts/ file are you using I can ask if jeremy can post them for us? | Mar 18 12:53 |
jlaska | | f13: roger, see you soon | Mar 18 12:53 |
jlaska | | adamw: you do need a haircut! | Mar 18 12:53 |
jlaska | | :) | Mar 18 12:53 |
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adamw | | jlaska: hmm, when you saw me i'd had one quite recently :P | Mar 18 12:53 |
jlaska | | jk ;) | Mar 18 12:53 |
nirik | | jlaska: sure, basically the xfce one from git head of spins-kickstarts. | Mar 18 12:54 |
jlaska | | okay | Mar 18 12:54 |
jlaska | | I'll talk to jeremy and se if we can have something posted for tomorrow | Mar 18 12:54 |
jlaska | | unless anyone else wants to grab that one? | Mar 18 12:54 |
nirik | | http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob;f=fedora-livecd-xfce.ks;h=b97e245b94843596c1026d265a181e30e0dfe784;hb=9ec863778654f5462ab33300181ec1a9348d58ef | Mar 18 12:54 |
nirik | | man, thats ugly. | Mar 18 12:54 |
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jlaska | | nirik: no worries, I have the link | Mar 18 12:54 |
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jlaska | | okay folks ... I need to cut out shortly, and we're approaching out 1hr limit | Mar 18 12:55 |
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jlaska | | are there any topics folks would like to discuss before we close out? | Mar 18 12:56 |
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nirik | | just FYI, I should be around for Xfce tomorrow, but I am on MDT, so will not be in until 9am (11am EDT). | Mar 18 12:57 |
jlaska | | nirik: okay, thanks for update | Mar 18 12:57 |
viking_ice | | wp instance for announcements stuck in infrastructure | Mar 18 12:58 |
jlaska | | viking_ice: do you have a link to the ticket? | Mar 18 12:58 |
viking_ice | | 12456 | Mar 18 12:59 |
viking_ice | | 1245 | Mar 18 12:59 |
viking_ice | | it's 1245 | Mar 18 12:59 |
viking_ice | | perhaps maintainers/developers should introduce them self as such when reply on the test list | Mar 18 12:59 |
jlaska | | https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1245 | Mar 18 13:00 |
viking_ice | | yup | Mar 18 13:00 |
adamw | | viking_ice: that'd be nice but probably unlikely to be possible :\ trying to get maintainers to do anything like that is like herding cats... | Mar 18 13:00 |
viking_ice | | sandeen: has been getting hard time getting testers to do what they need to do for him to diagnose the problem | Mar 18 13:01 |
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viking_ice | | Well hey smug me maintain you do this ok and file a report with output | Mar 18 13:01 |
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jlaska | | viking_ice: hrmm, interesting idea ... I'm going to put this down as a discussion point | Mar 18 13:02 |
viking_ice | | well a whole sysrq wiki page got written | Mar 18 13:02 |
jlaska | | yeah that was good stuff! | Mar 18 13:02 |
viking_ice | | jlaska: there is also an rfe that wont get work on until the webpage is setup | Mar 18 13:02 |
viking_ice | | for a notifier-applet in gnome | Mar 18 13:03 |
jlaska | | viking_ice: can you post the link for the minutes? | Mar 18 13:03 |
viking_ice | | which link ? | Mar 18 13:03 |
jlaska | | SysRq | Mar 18 13:03 |
jlaska | | I've got to drop off folks, thanks for the meeting | Mar 18 13:03 |
jlaska | | minutes to follow on the list, let's continue discussion in #fedora-qa and on fedora-test-list@redhat.com | Mar 18 13:03 |
viking_ice | | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Sysrq | Mar 18 13:04 |
jlaska | | viking_ice: thanks! | Mar 18 13:04 |
viking_ice | | well christo moved it there | Mar 18 13:04 |
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