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#!html <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> <title>FDSCo-#fedora-docs-2007-05-15.log</title> <link rel="stylesheet" href="irclog.css" /> <meta name="generator" content="irclog2html.py 2.5 by Marius Gedminas" /> <meta name="version" content="2.5 - 2007-01-22" /> </head> <body> <h1>FDSCo-#fedora-docs-2007-05-15.log</h1> <table class="irclog"> <tr id="t09:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40"><meeting></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:07" class="time">09:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:07"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid was busy handing out oatmeal and toast</td><td><a href="#t09:07" class="time">09:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:08"><td class="action" colspan="2">* gomix my first... just listening</td><td><a href="#t09:08" class="time">09:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">hi everybody</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:08" class="time">09:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">hi all</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:08" class="time">09:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:08"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:08" class="time">09:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:08"><td class="action" colspan="2">* EvilBob is still here</td><td><a href="#t09:08" class="time">09:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:09"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work just posted an update to the relnotes schedule to closer match reality</td><td><a href="#t09:09" class="time">09:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:09"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:09" class="time">09:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:09"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:09" class="time">09:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:09"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">didn't do guide schedule tho'</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:09" class="time">09:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we can discuss that one</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:10" class="time">09:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">yeah, guides in somewhat uncertain</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:10" class="time">09:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Also, check out those statistics: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Translation/Statistics">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Translation/Statistics</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:10" class="time">09:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:10"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">s/in/is</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:10" class="time">09:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:11"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">wow, are those, like, complete?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:11" class="time">09:11</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:11"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid works on his, you know, King of the Comma thing</td><td><a href="#t09:11" class="time">09:11</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Yeah, and ignore the funkiness in the homepage-ja -- there's a trivial error in the PO but that one is done too.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:12" class="time">09:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">nice stats, thanks for keeping this up2date</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:12" class="time">09:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:12"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid was just going to ask about that one</td><td><a href="#t09:12" class="time">09:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Unfortunately, Emacs is terminally busted in Rawhide right now so I can't open it to fix it! :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:12" class="time">09:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:12"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I bet Vim isn't busted! :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:12" class="time">09:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Oh, AS IF I'd use that... ;-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">lol</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">stickster_work: You *will* and you'll like it :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I like eating chinese food with one chopstick too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid side notes that he is happy that jsmith is a DocBook and Vim user, might help us to improve our story in that area</td><td><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">No kidding</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">That's right!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:13"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">By the way, everyone, welcome jsmith, a great guy who lives about 20 min. from my house, believe it or not</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:13" class="time">09:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid *boggles*</td><td><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">a real-life person :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">OK, maybe 30</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Published author extraordinaire</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">So, I signed up for an account... still need to introduce myself on the list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">sweetness</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">Make my new gpg key, etc. this morning too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">legends don't need introduction?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, i declare myself happy with the state of the relnotes and translations</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">or something</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:14"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">quaid: ++</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:14" class="time">09:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: they do, unless they want people to make up their own story about their legend status</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">lol</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">We'll drop this to releng 'round about Thursday</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">If I can interject a little status here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">aye?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">or, rather, aye! (?)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I spoke with glezos at RHS about this, in particular, whether we wanted to try and sneak in any additional content the last few days</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:15"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">heh heh</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:15" class="time">09:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">He felt it would be a bad idea. I was hoping to get in one or two Very Important Things, but I thought better of it on the plane coming home.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">after all, if it ain't broke yet, keep on hitting it with a hammer!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">stickster_work: now you feel like all the other people who worry about our early schedule for trans</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">remember our secret plan?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">What I think made up my mind was a bit of thread I saw on either f-devel-l or f-maintainers-l</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:16"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">that we are going to put a link at the top of all pages to the Web-version?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:16" class="time">09:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:17"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid actually never got a confirmation that this plan was a good idea</td><td><a href="#t09:17" class="time">09:17</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:17"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf likes linking</td><td><a href="#t09:17" class="time">09:17</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:17"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- jmbuser [n=chatzill@212.70.37.3] has joined #fedora-docs</td><td><a href="#t09:17" class="time">09:17</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">What does "at the top of all pages" mean, remind me?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jmbuser joins you late via a 26.4 kbps dial-up connection</td><td><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, like this ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">welcome jmbuser</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Hi jmbuser!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">Hey look jmbuser is here kinda</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">carry on</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:18"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">jmbuser: Don't worry we will type slow for you</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:18" class="time">09:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:19"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">stickster_work: we copy the admonition from the OverView (in all $LANGs) and paste it at the top of each XML page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:19" class="time">09:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:19"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">probably the best way is to ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:19" class="time">09:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:19"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">do the change in the XML in en_US, then make new POT, then copy in the msgstr to each POT file</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:19" class="time">09:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">quaid: Shouldn't have to even do the copying -- the gettext utilities should be smart enough to do all this automagically</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">cool</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I mean, the copying of other LANGs.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I'll give this a whirl real quick and tell you results before we're done here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I know it makes the pages a bit busy, but ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:20"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I was going to suggest that we put it at the top of all the "substantive" parts, i.e. not the colophon, stuff like that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:20" class="time">09:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">anything else on the relnotes?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, sure, colophon we can skip</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Also, we should be dropping the PackageChanges content from the XML version</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">oh, yeah, def.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">coolness</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">aye</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">ha!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we're going to leave that on the wiki, right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work keeps typing "emacs <something>" by habit and gets ugly stack dump</td><td><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:21"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">quaid: +1, right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:21" class="time">09:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">just eliminate from shipping version</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:22" class="time">09:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">'scool</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:22" class="time">09:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:22"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work cries over his lost Emacs</td><td><a href="#t09:22" class="time">09:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">no doubt</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:22" class="time">09:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:22"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">"You never gave up on anything in your life, you bitch! Now fight! FIIIIIGHT!!!!"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:22" class="time">09:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:23"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">(Ed Harris, "The Abyss"? Anyone? *sigh)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:23" class="time">09:23</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:23"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work simmers down</td><td><a href="#t09:23" class="time">09:23</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:23"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">Yeah, I got it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:23" class="time">09:23</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">Good movie, considering</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">thank goodness...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">+1 to the director's cut, -1 to the theater release</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">true dat</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">Haven't seen the director's cut</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jsmith needs to do that</td><td><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:24"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">it's like "2.5 stars" becomes "3.5 stars"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:24" class="time">09:24</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf needs to see it</td><td><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">on to IG talk</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">(and other guides, one at a time)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">focus</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Uh-oh, IG is me too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: well, yeah, since you may disappear in a cloud of modem at any time</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:25"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Actually, I've made quite a bit of progress, been committing steadily</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:25" class="time">09:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:26"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Still encouraging people to check out, patch, whatever</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:26" class="time">09:26</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">the RHS interfered somewhat, as I suspected, and when I got back I had a horrendous back spasm that put me out of commish for the last 48 hours</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I should be able to do quite a bit more work this week</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">The week's slippage is a bit of a godsend if for no other reason than that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid has been reading IG, but not for a week</td><td><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:27"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I'll def. add an edit this week</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:27" class="time">09:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:28"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we can talk about the schedule here, too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:28" class="time">09:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:28"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule#Guides">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule#Guides</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:28" class="time">09:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:28"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">For those of you who don't know the internet access in the rooms at the RHS was worse than jmbuser's connection plus it was shared</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:28" class="time">09:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:28"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">That is NO lie.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:28" class="time">09:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">The only decent wifi was set up by RH, which meant a 1/4 mile walk from my tower to the convention area</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:29" class="time">09:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">Several of us worked a lot in the summit spaces even after hours</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:29" class="time">09:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">ouch</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:29" class="time">09:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:29"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">So, back on topic --</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:29" class="time">09:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">From my vantage point, I think a F7 GA of 5/31 is somewhat... optimistic.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:30" class="time">09:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">It could happen.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:30" class="time">09:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">But the QA efforts have been hampered by the Rawhide slump during the final parts of the merge.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:30" class="time">09:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:30"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">There are a number of regressions that the developers are trying to overcome</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:30" class="time">09:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">Yeah looking like early June from the voices I have been hearing</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">So we may be in good shape by setting a CVS freeze up for, say, 22 May</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Maybe even 27 May</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">let's presume a later release for all guides, except ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">maybe we can be prepared with just the IG in case they finish "on time"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I think 22 May gives the translators more time for these guides, but we should keep in mind that translations may not come out until significantly after GA</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:31"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">quaid: Roger that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:31" class="time">09:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">BTW, has anyone else had some hiccups in F7T4 after updating?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">quaid: +1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">yes, that's OK, as long as the English is out on time and we are updating with l10n rapidly</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">jmbuser: Yes, let's save that discussion for after meeting tho'</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">quaid: +1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:32"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">May 27 seems like a reasonable freeze-date</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:32" class="time">09:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:33"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">I think if we can team up with Paul on the IG and get it done then start looking at other targets it would be a good idea</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:33" class="time">09:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:34"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">sure, just not all of us :) because we have other stuff to get done, too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:34" class="time">09:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:35"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:35" class="time">09:35</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:36"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">So, assuming I find some time this week to help out, what should I begin with?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:36" class="time">09:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:36"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I'd appreciate if someone files a bug saying, "You forgot <X>"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:36" class="time">09:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:37"><td class="action" colspan="2">* EvilBob goes to file that bug</td><td><a href="#t09:37" class="time">09:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I think jsmith is probably needed on either the user guide or the admin guide</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:37" class="time">09:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">OK... I'll look for those modules in CVS</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:37" class="time">09:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">yeah, I think a large part of this is reviewing what's been written for style and audience consideration</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:37" class="time">09:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:37"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Is either of those in CVS yet?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:37" class="time">09:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:38"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">dug version 6 yes, devel not yet</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:38" class="time">09:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:38"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">or fug or whatever</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:38" class="time">09:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">admin not afaik</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:39" class="time">09:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">sorry, Wiki</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:39" class="time">09:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">yeah, jsmith, here's where you find out how much work there really is to do :-D</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:39" class="time">09:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:39"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">We've been paying a penalty on "few writers, lotsa work"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:39" class="time">09:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:40"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work considers briefly analogy to budget deficit and give sup</td><td><a href="#t09:40" class="time">09:40</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:40"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">s/give sup/gives up/</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:40" class="time">09:40</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:40"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">That's fine... I can't guarantee how much time I can devote to the project, but I'll do my best</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:40" class="time">09:40</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:41"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Rather than divvying up our forces too much, why not let jsmith collaborate on either the UG or the IG as he sees fit?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:41" class="time">09:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:41"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">We can set other targets after those are done, with a better chance of getting things done for F8</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:41" class="time">09:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:42"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">jsmith: Are you willing and able to add some KDE love to the DUG/FUG?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:42" class="time">09:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:42"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf nots yum-guide is sorta getta some love in the wiki</td><td><a href="#t09:42" class="time">09:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:42"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">I haven't touched KDE in ages</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:42" class="time">09:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:42"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">s/nots/notes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:42" class="time">09:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:43"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">Of course, that might mean I'll see it with fresh eyes!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:43" class="time">09:43</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:43"><td class="action" colspan="2">* couf loves our new tagline ;)</td><td><a href="#t09:43" class="time">09:43</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:44"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Who is helping mether with the yum SMG?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:44" class="time">09:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:44"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">jsmith: I overcame my writer's block today (on the wiki) and am trying to figure out how to deal fairly with both KDE and GNOME apps</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:44" class="time">09:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">jsmith: without totally confusing the reader.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:45" class="time">09:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:45"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">stickster_work: iirc JonRob</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:45" class="time">09:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> jmtaylor</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">I have some time this week to devote, if someone could point me in a direction :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">jmtaylor: Do you have a Rawhide box?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Or F7test4</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> jmtaylor</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">I can make one yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:46"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">jmtaylor: OK, you're going to need to be a little proactive here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:46" class="time">09:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Install one, then check <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">There are some "to-do's" at the top</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">So start checking chapters, find out what doesn't work right anymore (has become outdated), and fix it on the wiki</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">That's an easy way to have a BIG impact right away</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:47"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Rahul, Jon and lots of the rest of us can watch your commits.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:47" class="time">09:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">jmtaylor: Do you have watch pages set in your wiki user prefs?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:48" class="time">09:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">At the very least, you should set one for Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagement*</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:48" class="time">09:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> jmtaylor</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">stickster_work: yes, I do</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:48" class="time">09:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">That will show you any changes that we make in response</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:48" class="time">09:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:48"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">So you can pick up tips and hints on how to write more clearly (or at least more in line with our style preferences) :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:48" class="time">09:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Assuming, of course, that the changes are improvements -- which is not necessarily a given! :-D</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:49" class="time">09:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">We all try our best ;-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:49" class="time">09:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b"> jmtaylor</th><td class="text" style="color: #4b904b">heh, true</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:49" class="time">09:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:49"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">OK, my time is running short guys, for whatever that's worth</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:49" class="time">09:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:50"><th class="nick" style="background: #854685"> EvilBob</th><td class="text" style="color: #854685">I figure about $143 per hour</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:50" class="time">09:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:50"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Is there anyone thinking "Gee, I don't have enough to do."?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:50" class="time">09:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:50"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">:-D</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:50" class="time">09:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:51"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">you or me? :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:51" class="time">09:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:51"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">jmbuser: okay to start converting the fug to xml so we have an xml in the back?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:51" class="time">09:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:51"><td class="action" colspan="2">* stickster_work blows outta here like the wind, back to $DAYJOB</td><td><a href="#t09:51" class="time">09:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:51"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">stickster_work: thanks dude</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:51" class="time">09:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:52"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">couf: You may have noticed that I'm starting to edit the docs/drafts version</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:52" class="time">09:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:52"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">stickster_work: thanks</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:52" class="time">09:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:52"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">yeah, that's why :-) want to be a bit proactive here aswell</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:52" class="time">09:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:52"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">some stuff won't change, give translators some chances to get it ahead of time</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:52" class="time">09:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">couf: Keep in mind, once you go XML, it gets exponentially harder to bring in chnages</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:53" class="time">09:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">well, exponentially is not quite right... but somewhat more difficult, to be sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:53" class="time">09:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">couf: Unfortunately, I'm not a methodical writer - I will probably be banging on it for some time - and seeking feedback</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:53" class="time">09:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:53"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">right, there is a gray line</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:53" class="time">09:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">stickster_work: thanks for the warning there :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:54" class="time">09:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">couf: wiki is good for getting feedback quickly</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:54" class="time">09:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">couf: np, let me know if I'm annoying you :-D</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:54" class="time">09:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:54"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">there is a point where it is easier to re-convert than to manually port changes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:54" class="time">09:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:55"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">jmbuser: sure go ahead, warn us in time to do the conv</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:55" class="time">09:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:55"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">true</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:55" class="time">09:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:55"><td class="action" colspan="2">* jmbuser wants to go wild on the wiki :-)</td><td><a href="#t09:55" class="time">09:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">go baby go!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid looks at the agenda again</td><td><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a"> jmbuser</th><td class="text" style="color: #8c4a4a">couf: give me a deadline</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">I think we need to seek AG status on list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">and that ties up all the business</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:56"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">quaid: yeah, not sure if that's even alive</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:56" class="time">09:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:57"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">jmbuser: take your time, my friend :-)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:57" class="time">09:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t09:59"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">quick question: are we still using the publish queue for putting docs online?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t09:59" class="time">09:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:00"><td class="other" colspan="2">-!- jmtaylor [n=jason@c-68-42-82-39.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] </td><td><a href="#t10:00" class="time">10:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:00"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:00" class="time">10:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:00"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">At least, I do</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:00" class="time">10:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:00"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">It's an easy way to spot documents that are ready</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:00" class="time">10:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:01"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">yeah, although most translators don't even know about it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:01" class="time">10:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:01"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">yes, it probably needs to go into TQSG</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:01" class="time">10:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:01"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">couf: Maybe you could file a bug on that?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:01" class="time">10:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:02" class="time">10:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">I'll fix it as soon as I get a few min</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:02" class="time">10:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">Or you could feel free to do it yourself, I'll see the commit and edit as necessary</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:02" class="time">10:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">yeah, I might do that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:02" class="time">10:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:02"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">I'll open the bug in any case</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:02" class="time">10:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">the pub-queue was sort of a stop-gap ...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:03" class="time">10:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:03"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">we can continue using it until glezos' magic system does auto-alerts :0</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:03" class="time">10:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">oooh magic :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:04" class="time">10:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e"> stickster_work</th><td class="text" style="color: #42427e">right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:04" class="time">10:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">ok, that looks like the stuff</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:04" class="time">10:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:04"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">any other business? (AOB)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:04" class="time">10:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:05"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">heh lol, bug already exists (#198848)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:05" class="time">10:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:06"><th class="nick" style="background: #818144"> couf</th><td class="text" style="color: #818144">quaid: nothing here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:06" class="time">10:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:06"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">right on from me, too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:06" class="time">10:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:06"><td class="action" colspan="2">* quaid does the 10 second count down to close</td><td><a href="#t10:06" class="time">10:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">10</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">9</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">8</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">7</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">6</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">5</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">4</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">3</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">2</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #488888"> jsmith</th><td class="text" style="color: #488888">3.14</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40">curses, caught by pi!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t10:07"><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40"> quaid</th><td class="text" style="color: #407a40"></meeting></td><td class="time"><a href="#t10:07" class="time">10:07</a></td></tr> </table> <div class="generatedby"> <p>Generated by irclog2html.py 2.5 by <a href="mailto:marius@pov.lt">Marius Gedminas</a> - find it at <a href="http://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/">mg.pov.lt</a>!</p> </div> </body> </html>