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[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:09:19] <Ankur^^>	hi all.. help with a few queries please??
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:11:02] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: shoot
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:11:30] <chacha_chaudhry>	will brb
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:12:07] <Ankur^^>	im pretty much a newbie and wanted to know how what i need to do to learn development etc...
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:14:20] <Ankur^^>	I have started with C.. from a buk called kernighan and ritchie that someone suggested at the forums..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:16:14] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: hi, Nice you reading C ;-)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:17:02] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: may be you can check a post by debarshi on mailing list --- posted right now :)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:17:26] <Ankur^^>	i just got it..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:17:45] <Ankur^^>	wiley/wrox for Unix programming..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:17:50] <Ankur^^>	okay.. ill do that..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:19:28] <Ankur^^>	thank you for you help.. ill get started now.. regards,
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:19:31] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Yo!
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:20:46] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: That "buk called kernighan and ritchie" is a gem. :-)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:21:12] <bonii>	debarshi: Hello
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:21:12] <bonii>	debarshi: Was missing you :)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:21:12] <debarshi>	bonii: Singh is Kingg.
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:21:12] <chacha_chaudhry>	bonii: heya!
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:21:47] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: you may try internet also there is wealth of resource available ... ;)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:22:03] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: hehe..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:22:27] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhuri: yeah.. am looking up.. :-)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:22:43] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: Nice
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[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:26:24] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry : found the book debarshi suggested on esnips.. downloading it..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:27:25] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: :-) Okay.
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:32:00] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: okay ppl.. going to start with my "homework".. if i need any help ill find you ppl here itself?? do u ppl have a timing or anything??
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:33:49] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: We are very strict with timings.
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:33:50] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: you are welcome ;0) You may shoot anytime and if folks are free and know the answer, they will most probably answer ;-)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:33:59] <debarshi>	It is strictly 24x7.
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:34:05] <chacha_chaudhry>	:P
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:34:25] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: lol.. okay thanx a bunch..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:34:27] <sankarshan>	We tend to discourage sms-ese too :)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:34:46] <chacha_chaudhry>	debarshi is on night duty most of time :)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:34:53] <Ankur^^>	sankarshan: "sms-ese" meaning?
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:35:08]	* sankarshan defers to debarshi for that explanation
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:36:13]	* Ankur^^ 'dint catch on  :-('
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[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:38:31] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: <A HREF="http://l4zyt1g3r.blogspot.com/2006/08/sms-ese.html">http://l4zyt1g3r.blogspot.com/2006/08/sm s-ese.html</A>
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:38:45] <Ankur^^>	sankarshan: i got it.. googled it.. :-) you mean sms language etc.. abbreviations etc?? okay.. will keep that in mind..
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[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:39:19] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: i was on that link already .. coincidence..
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:42:27] <debarshi>	:-)
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:42:58] <chacha_chaudhry>	bonii: you remember of any site used in browser to connect irc ?
[Mon Jul 7 2008] [12:43:10] <bonii>	chacha_chaudhry: <A HREF="http://mibbit.com/">http://mibbit.com/</A>
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:23:34] <Ankur^^>	hi everyone.. wanted to ask about the packaging meet at 3. Anyone here?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:24:28] <kushal>	Ankur^^, we are not here
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:24:46] <Ankur^^>	Im a complete newbie at packagine, i.e., i have never packaged anything before.. can i attend the meeting and learn?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:24:49] <_pjp_>	kushal: what are you doing these days?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:24:55] <kushal>	Ankur^^, yes you can
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:25:10] <kushal>	_pjp_, working on small small fedora tools
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:25:12] <kushal>	:p
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:25:27] <_pjp_>	kushal: tools like?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:25:38] <kushal>	_pjp_, like blogging from mails
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:25:53] <_pjp_>	kushal: uff...:)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:26:00] <Ankur^^>	kaushal : okay then. Ive got to get to class.. see you all at 3.. by the way Ill be sending the dvd for that media request today..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:26:15] <_pjp_>	kushal: who does that, blogging from mail?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [12:26:25] <Ankur^^>	bye all
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [14:57:42] <kushal>	mether, <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/405580682/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/4 05580682/</A>
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:01:23] <Ankur^^>	Im assuming for the packaging meet..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:01:26] <_pjp_>	kushal: for what?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:01:26] <kushal>	_pjp_, for "rahul ka pathashala "
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:01:31] <kushal>	_pjp_, for "rahul ka pathshala "
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:02:08] <_pjp_>	oh..I got that mail, I remember. What's it about?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:03:00] <kushal>	_pjp_, lol
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:03:10] <_pjp_>	kushal: ?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:03:33] <kushal>		3:00 pm
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:04:23] <mether>	So I guess I can start
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:04:25] <debarshi>		2:55pm
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:04:29] <debarshi>	:-)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:05:14] <mether>	Alright, I will start anyway. we have logs later for people to follow
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:05:19] <mether>	Roll call folks
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:05:24] <kushal>	KushalDas
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:05:28] <Ankur^^>	AnkurSinha
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:05:28] <mether>	RahulSundaram
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:06:01] <kushal>	_pjp_, name please
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:06:14] <_pjp_>	ah..Prasad
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:06:50] <mether>	for source material, refer to <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CreatingPackageHowTo">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMai ntainers/CreatingPackageHowTo</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:06:58] <paragn>	hi all
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:07:19] <mether>	paragn: hello paragn
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:07:42] <mether>	for those who have a pristine environment and just getting started
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:07:59] <mether>	yum install fedora-packager would setup the basic tools
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:08:15] <paragn>	mether, hello
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:08:39] <mether>	yum groupinstall "Development Tools" is useful too for the toolchain
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:09:34] <mether>	There are thousands of spec files available at <A HREF="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpm s/</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:09:48] <Ankur^^>	mether : okay.. the version that came with fedora 9 is okay? i havent been able to update
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:10:04] <mether>	yep, the one with fedora 9 is okay
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:10:14] <Ankur^^>	okay..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:10:34] <mether>	In most cases, you don't need to write spec files from scratch and can reuse existing ones
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:11:19] <mether>	packaging allows end users to install, remove and upgrade packages easily. This includes the ability to install dependencies automatically
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:11:50] <debarshi>	Debarshi Ray
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:12:01] <mether>	RPM is designed to be non interactive and cleanly separate the source from the patches
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:12:09] <paragn>	sample SPEC template files can be found on your system at /etc/rpmdevtools/
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:12:35] <mether>	the non interactive part means that you cannot ask questions during installation
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:13:05] <chacha_chaudhry>	Rakesh Pandit
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:13:22] <mether>	the idea behind that is to completely automate installations. You need to pick sane defaults while packaging upstream software and any other details should be a post configuration item
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:14:04] <mether>	The design of pristine upstream sources + patches is to enable you to move to a newer upstream release when necessary among other things
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:14:32] <mether>	RPM can be either source or binary
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:15:13] <mether>	a source RPM consists of a spec file and the upstream files (typically a archive such as tar.gz)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:15:55] <mether>	The spec file determines how the software is configured, where the files are places and generally how it should be setup
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:16:48] <mether>	you can use the sample spec files from /etc/rpmdevtools or use the rpmdev-newspec command to create templates
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:17:30] <mether>	#rpmdev-newspec foo.spec would create a minimalistic spec
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:18:15] <mether>	#rpmdev-newspec python foo-python.spec will create a basic spec for packaging applications written in python
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:19:02] <mether>	The minimalistic spec file would look like this: <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CreatingPackageHowTo#Creating_a_blank_spec_file">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMai ntainers/CreatingPackageHowTo#Creating_a _blank_spec_file</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:19:30] <mether>	Name and Version is fairly self explanatory
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:20:32] <mether>	Release is typically a number you use to differentiate between consecutive builds of the same upstream release
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:20:44] <mether>	for example, if the upstream release is foo-1.0
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:20:58] <mether>	and release starts from 1
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:21:08] <pradeepto>	hi
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:21:29] <mether>	your source and binary packages would say foo.1.0-1
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:22:22] <mether>	A summary is a short one line description of the software project
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:23:11] <mether>	Group is used to categorize RPM packages. In Fedora, we rely on a alternative method of grouping using a xml file called comps
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:23:51] <mether>	Hence the other package management tools including yum don't rely on groups anymore.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:24:35] <mether>	The comps file is explained in more detail at <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CompsXml">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMai ntainers/CompsXml</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:25:17] <mether>	License is the collective license of the upstream software
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:25:49] <mether>	More details at <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:26:29] <mether>	The Linux kernel for example would say GPLv2
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:27:52] <mether>	In Fedora, we are more strict about specifying the licensing so we can keep track of what is being included, any potential licensing conflicts and generally making sure that Fedora is always freely usable, modifiable redistributable. The usual free and open source rights
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:28:47] <mether>	There are main sections that are typically used in a spec file
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:29:00] <mether>	%prep, %build and %install
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:29:43] <mether>	In RPM, commonly used tasks are specified as macros to save time and avoid problems
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:30:03] <mether>	Since upstream releases come in source archives like I said earlier, you would want to extract them first
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:30:24] <mether>	you would run something like tar zxvf foo-0.1.tar.gz
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:30:44] <mether>	instead of that, in spec files you can use %setup macro which does this for you
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:31:25] <mether>	it is intelligent enough to differentiate and do the right thing whether the archive is gzipped or uses bz2 or something else.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:31:37] <mether>	There are many such macros we use throughout the spec files
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:31:55] <mether>	A list of them are <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/RPMMacros">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ RPMMacros</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:33:07] <mether>	In %build section you will configure the extracted source
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:33:41] <mether>	Many of the software projects allows you enable/disable specific features or configure them in a different way
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:34:06] <mether>	Your job as a packager will include figuring out the right configuration options to specify
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:34:33] <mether>	The packaging guidelines in Fedora enforces or recommends certain things
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:34:54] <mether>	including disabling static libraries whenever possible, using specific file patches etc
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:35:11] <mether>	s/patches/paths
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:35:39] <mether>	The guidelines however do not and cannot cover every use case
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:36:00] <mether>	use your common sense or ask more experienced package maintainers if you are in doubt
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:37:19] <mether>	Also note that the packaging guidelines are living documents. They do get changes over time. Do not blindly follow them. Understand the rationale behind them and verify that they are applicable for the software project you are trying to package
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:37:44] <ShadowCaptian>	hi all, sorry for being late...
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:37:52] <ShadowCaptian>	is the packaging discussion on yet?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:38:08] <mether>	ShadowCaptian: its alright. we will post the logs. Yes, we are in the middle of it
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:38:23] <ShadowCaptian>	please continue,.. and i apologise for the interruption
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:38:45] <mether>	RPM while building from source
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:39:03] <mether>	does it within a specific build directory
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:39:17] <mether>	you should never build RPM packages as root user
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:39:44] <Ankur^^>	can you please explain why?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:40:12] <mether>	it is easy to create simple mistakes in your spec files that can wipe out your system entirely. Upstream source cannot be naively trusted and can contain malicious or unintentional consequences
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [15:41:22] <Ankur^^>	quit
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:20:04] <debarshi>	paragn: Ok.
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:20:56] <debarshi>	paragn: So when are these 'Requires(...)' checked? When installing the package, or just before the scriptlet is to be run?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:21:01] <paragn>	look more on post*/pre* usage at <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets#Syntax">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ ScriptletSnippets#Syntax</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:21:25] <mether>	A number of guidelines are workarounds for bugs and misfeatures. Some of these are fixed in the later revisions but since we want to maintain compatibility for older releases (including EPEL), we continue to retain them in the spec file
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:21:50] <chacha_chaudhry>	mether: what about release field for projects source with prerelease numbers (e.g r21, rc34) or alpha/beta
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:22:14] <paragn>	debarshi, just before scriptlet is to be run
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:22:26] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Pre-Release_packages">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ NamingGuidelines#Pre-Release_packages</A> covers this
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:22:42] <chacha_chaudhry>	okay
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:22:50] <mether>	sometimes upstream release names differ in a insane way and only way out is to use Epoch
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:23:06] <mether>	but try and avoid and point out the problem to upstream projects
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:23:37] <debarshi>	paragn: Yes, that answers my doubt. :-)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:23:39] <mether>	openssl for example has oddball naming conventions that differ wildly between releases with no obvious rhyme or reason
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:24:15] <chacha_chaudhry>	okay
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:24:21] <mether>	You might want to talk to upstream first before you start packaging if the release conventions are not obvious and plan for this
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:24:34] <debarshi>	httrack is another crazy upstream
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:25:11] <mether>	Epoch overrides everything and is the last way out if you get struck
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:26:04] <mether>	Also upstream projects use release numbers to convey different meaning
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:26:06]	* debarshi has a question regarding %doc
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:26:27] <mether>	the classical linux model of odd versions for unstable releases is an example of this but there are others which are far less obvious
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:26:36] <mether>	debarshi: go ahead
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:27:13] <debarshi>	mether: Does it make a difference if I mark or don't mark the man/info pages as %doc?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:27:29] <mether>	It doesn't. RPM does that automatically
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:28:06] <debarshi>	mether: Ok.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:28:36] <mether>	RPM has increasingly tried to be smart about figuring out the dependencies but it does get it wrong sometime and you need to override it. This isn't the case for %doc but perl packages sometimes run into these issues
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:29:29] <mether>	Also afaik there isn't a automated way to find out run-time dependencies unlike build dependencies (which can be figured out using mock, koji etc)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:30:38] <mether>	The packaging committee is a whole team of people who are experts in these areas and you can post to fedora-packaging list and ask questions if you find your peers unable to explain anything
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:32:10] <mether>	Ok, unless we have more questions, I will call the end of the meeting now
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:32:29] <debarshi>	mether: One last one.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:32:41] <mether>	yes
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:33:09] <debarshi>	mether: Some people add the upstream's signatures as Source1. Is it recommended or useful?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:33:34] <mether>	what do you mean by signatures
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:33:47] <mether>	do you have a example?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:33:52] <paragn>	I think he mean tarball signatures?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:01] <debarshi>	foo-1.0.tar.gz.asc or something like that.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:11] <mether>	ah ok
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:11] <debarshi>	paragn: Yes, tarball signatures.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:15] <paragn>	I don't see any use of that
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:19] <debarshi>	I forgot the correct nomenclature.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:34:42] <debarshi>	paragn: Ok. Ok.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:35:01] <debarshi>	One more query.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:35:12] <mether>	ask
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:35:36] <debarshi>	Why do we keep stressing on preserving timestamps? Things like 'cp -p', INSTALL="install -p", etc..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:36:14] <mether>	paragn: this should be your favorite one I guess
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:36:43] <paragn>	mether, I got that from mtasaka so it favorite of mtasaka
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:38:08] <paragn>	basically we try to keep timestamps of upstream files to make sure what upstream gave in that file actually to differentiate any changes done by any daemon/ourselves
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:38:21] <mether>	debarshi: it is not strictly required but it useful to identify when you pull from upstream
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:38:45] <sandeeps>	may be to record when new library was installed on the system and when you remove the library to keep the library information on current Linux system
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:39:00] <paragn>	so its crosscheck between upstream provided file and to check if something has modified it
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:39:12] <debarshi>	Ah, ok.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:39:18] <mether>	right, this is a additional check along with md5sum's
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:39:30] <debarshi>	One more question. Related to multilib.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:39:53] <debarshi>	Say I have foo.i386 and foo.x86_64, both of which install /usr/bin/foo.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:40:17] <debarshi>	How is this collision handled? I mean is it even possible? Or this is only allowed for libraries?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:40:44] <debarshi>	(I mean what are the prime targets for multilib conflicts in simple terms?)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:41:00] <mether>	Libraries are the typical targets, yes
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:41:33] <debarshi>	mether: Ones which hard-code /usr/lib, isn't it?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:41:39] <mether>	RPM gives priority (in rpm terms, color) to a particular arch over another and ignores the collision
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:41:51] <debarshi>	mether: Oh, ok. Ok.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:42:15] <mether>	yes, file path is what determines this particular feature/ hack afaik
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:42:33] <debarshi>	So we only maintain separate copies for libraries and let others get overwiritten by priority?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:43:11] <mether>	That's the gist of it. However there are lot of oddball corner cases. I certainly don't know them all
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:44:26] <mether>	There is a good reason, other packaging systems like .deb have ignored this till now
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:44:42] <mether>	It is pretty hard to get right
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:45:44] <mether>	We don't install multi-lib by default in yum anymore to try and avoid the problems
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:46:22] <mether>	The last major piece of foss software and was openoffice.org and that got fixed by the Red Hat developer/maintainer
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:46:56] <mether>	There is still crap like browser plugins that we workaround using nspluginwrapper but in general this is a problem I hope goes away
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:35] <mether>	Calling end of meeting. countdown to 5
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:40] <mether>	4
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:42] <mether>	3
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:43] <mether>	2
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:46] <mether>	1
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:47:50] <mether>	END
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:48:21] <chacha_chaudhry>	=====XXX=====
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:48:37] <mether>	Thank you all for participating, If anyone has irc2html installed, I would appreciate if you post to fedoraproject.org/wiki/India/Training or something like that
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:48:46] <mether>	and send a note to the mailing lists
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:48:52] <mether>	I hope that was useful
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:49:02] <mether>	pbiswas: logout and login as a regular user.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:49:27] <chacha_chaudhry>	mether: Thank you for wonderful session
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:49:29] <pbiswas>	yeah by mistake
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:49:30] <pbiswas>	thanks
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:49:39] <mether>	chacha_chaudhry: you are welcome
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:50:01] <mether>	I am thinking of doing a walk through with a actual package next time
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:50:08] <mether>	lets discuss this later
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:50:17] <chacha_chaudhry>	yes sure
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:50:25] <Ankur^^>	mether: Thank you. If we have queries /problems while trying where do we ask?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:24] <chacha_chaudhry>	that would be nice
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:24] <mether>	Ankur^^: fedora packaging list is a good place
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:25] <mether>	we usually hang out in irc
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:25] <mether>	here and in #fedora-devel
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:33] <mether>	so feel free to come up anytime. there is usually someone awake
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:51:41] <Ankur^^>	mether: Okay. An actual package walk through would really be a good thing..Specially for newbies like me.. Please do think aboout that..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:00] <mether>	Ankur^^: alright. I will do that with you then
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:14]	* paragn leaves now will meet you tomorrow
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:20] <mether>	Ankur^^: let me know when would be convenient for you
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:30] <mether>	paragn: thanks parag for your participation. see you later
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:44] <paragn>	welcome
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:49] <paragn>	bye
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:56] <mether>	anyone volunteering to post meeting logs?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:52:56] <mether>	irc2html too
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:53:08] <Ankur^^>	mether: It should really suit your convienience.. Im in college.. The second half would be okay for me..
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:53:25] <mether>	Ankur^^: second half of the day?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:53:38] <Ankur^^>	mether : whenever you have time..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:53:59] <mether>	alright
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:00] <mether>	lets think about next monday	6:00 PM
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:03] <mether>	or maybe saturday
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:27] <Ankur^^>	mether : okay. Thank you so much for that.. Ill be here..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:35] <mether>	some folks expressed disappointment that they cant participate in 3 PM. Not sure what date/time to pick
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:40] <mether>	lets discuss that in the list
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:54:47] <mether>	fedora-india list for further ideas
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:55:59] <mether>	Ankur^^: were you able to follow?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:56:26] <Ankur^^>	mether : I was.. But i missed quite a bit.. Electricity cut off here.. Net died.. :-(
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:13] <mether>	Ankur^^: are you in fedora-india list?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:17] <Ankur^^>	mether : I will read through the log and make up for that..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:19] <mether>	we will post the irc logs there
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:32] <Ankur^^>	mether : Yes I am.. Will read up as soon as it gets there..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:42] <mether>	if you have questions after reading them, come up here and ask
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:51] <Ankur^^>	mether : Ill do that..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:57:54] <mether>	/me away
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [16:58:04] <Ankur^^>	mether: Thank you once again,..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:08:06] <baali>	i am using <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/m1e3eed16">http://pastebin.com/m1e3eed16</A> as my kickstart file
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:08:41] <baali>	will adding @scim make it installed by default????
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:11:48] <chacha_chaudhry>	baali: mether may answer you? he just left after packaging session
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:11:49] <mether>	baali: @scim will install the packages that are default in the scim group
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:12:07] <chacha_chaudhry>	:)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:12:19] <baali>	lucky me:)
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:12:25] <mether>	baali: you probably need to specify @<language>-support
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:12:39] <mether>	that will automatically pull in scim packages as necessary
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:06] <baali>	but i am specifying what language support i want
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:15] <mether>	right
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:40] <baali>	but scim is not getting installed:(
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:44] <mether>	that has a conditional dependency on the scim packages
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:44] <mether>	really?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:45] <mether>	thats odd
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:13:59] <baali>	so should i try %packages --resolvedeps
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:14:12] <baali>	ya i cant get scim installed with it
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:14:33] <mether>	baali: thats the default but try specifying the group or packages manually
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:14:39] <baali>	although i am able to login into session with hindi lang.
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:15:12] <baali>	so should i try @ scim or @scim-hindi....
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:15:20] <mether>	which release?
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:15:44] <baali>	F-8 i tried to make custom distro using revisor
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:16:22] <mether>	<A HREF="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/comps/comps-f8.xml.in?rev=1.260&view=markup">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/com ps/comps-f8.xml.in?rev=1.260&view=markup</A>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:16:39] <mether>	scim-bengali is a conditional dep of bengali-support
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:16:59] <mether>	id>bengali-support</id>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:00] <mether>	<_name>Bengali Support</_name>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:00] <mether>	<_description/>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:00] <mether>	<default>false</default>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:00] <mether>	<uservisible>false</uservisible>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:00] <mether>	<langonly>bn</langonly>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:01] <mether>	<packagelist>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:03] <mether>	<packagereq type="mandatory">fonts-bengali</packager eq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:04] <mether>	<packagereq type="mandatory">m17n-contrib-bengali</p ackagereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:07] <mether>	<packagereq type="mandatory">m17n-db-bengali</packag ereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:09] <mether>	<packagereq type="conditional" requires="aspell">aspell-bn</packagereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:10] <mether>	<packagereq type="conditional" requires="kdelibs">kde-i18n-Bengali</pac kagereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:14] <mether>	<packagereq type="conditional" requires="openoffice.org-core">openoffic e.org-langpack-bn</packagereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:16] <mether>	<packagereq type="conditional" requires="xorg-x11-server-Xorg">scim-lan g-bengali</packagereq>
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:17] <baali>	this is comps.xml file right
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:22] <mether>	yep
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:26] <mether>	where the groups are defined
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:17:57] <mether>	is xorg xserver installed on the system
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:18:09] <mether>	the package xorg-x11-server-Xorg
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [17:19:09] <mether>	<A HREF="http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/">http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/</A> has several ks files for all the Indic languages
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [21:22:17] <Ankur^^>	hi everyone.. anyone here got a log of the packaging meet?? It hasnt come to the india list yet..
[Mon Jul 28 2008] [21:22:58] <Ankur^^>	I missed out a bit so need to read up..
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[Mon Jul 28 2008] [21:26:29] <Ankur^^>	susmit: okay then.. ill wait for it.. thank you..
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[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:46:50] <Ankur^^>	Hi everyone.. I am going through the Fedora wiki on packaging right now It says you should make a new user eg 'makerpm'.. Is that necessary? Can I use my normal non-root user for it?
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:51:11] <saurabhb>	Ankur^^, you can, as long as it has limited rights...
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:53:42] <Ankur^^>	Its non-root.. That's sufficient for packaging I guess?
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:55:58] <saurabhb>	practically yes :)
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:57:19] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: Does the use of the word "practically" imply anything??
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:57:45] <saurabhb>	hehe no
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [13:59:05] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: Okay then.. Means i can go ahead and setup the "rpmdev-setuptree" thing on this user?? Is there a reason why they ask us to make a new user?
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:00:59] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: Im only asking because I'll have to log out and back in if I make that new user for packaging. So if it isn't necessary I thought I could skip the step and use the login I generally use..
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:01:52] <saurabhb>	Ankur^^, it is to isolate the dev environment
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:02:11] <saurabhb>	if something goes wrong, you cannot end up deleting /home :)
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:02:42] <saurabhb>	also, on shared environments, its useful if you have dedicated environments for each of the taks
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:03:03] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: shared environment meaning?
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:03:06] <saurabhb>	you possibly dont need to logout, you can just su to that user
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:03:20] <saurabhb>	meaning same box used by multiple people or apps
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:03:32] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: I use my private laptop..
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[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:04:09] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: I always thought su was only used for root login..(su = superuser)?
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:04:25] <saurabhb>	good, then just get a separate user and do all your packaging using that user, in case there are some wrong paths in the scripts, you would not end up deleting any of your files
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:04:50] <saurabhb>	nope, you can always use su <user>
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:05:01] <saurabhb>	or su - <user>
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:05:08] <saurabhb>	it is switch user :)
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:05:24] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: okay.. then I guess I'll make a new user and use that to be on the safer side..
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:05:39] <saurabhb>	yup
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:05:45] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: oh.. switch user.. I hadn't thought of that.. :)
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:06:14] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: thank you for helping..
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:06:33] <saurabhb>	no probs Ankur^^ :)
[Tue Jul 29 2008] [14:08:14] <Ankur^^>	saurabhb: I'll go and finish reading up..
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:28:12] <Ankur^^>	hi everyone.. how much time before the meeting begins?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:28:38] <mether>	5
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:29:48] <ankurs>	5
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:34:17] <kushal>	mether, hi
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:34:38] <mether>	kushal: hello. at home?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:35:08] <chacha_chaudhry>	sabko namaskar
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:35:19] <Ankur^^>	aapko bhi namaskar.. :-D
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:35:33] <ankurs>	haan sabko namaskar
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:35:57] <kushal>	mether, yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:36:07] <mether>	how is the speed
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:36:09] <kushal>	mether, no movie tonight ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:36:17] <mether>	no plans
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:36:21] <kushal>	mether, 384Kbps
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:37:34] <S_pack_F>	mether, I am not able to find any license file in the package, how do I check ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:37:56] <mether>	S_pack_F: whats the upstream url
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:38:43] <S_pack_F>	mether, <A HREF="http://giver.googlecode.com/files/giver-0.1.8.tar.gz">http://giver.googlecode.com/files/giver- 0.1.8.tar.gz</A>
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:39:31] <ankurs>	at what time will it begin
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:39:42] <mether>	right away
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:39:46] <kushal>	mether, I am working on libgksu
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:39:52] <mether>	alright
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:41:22] <mether>	S_pack_F: there is a file called COPYING in it which indicates it is under the MIT License
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:41:39] <mether>	so, who are the new contributors attending the session
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:41:46] <Ankur^^>	AnkurSinha.. Im one
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:42:09] <mether>	have you picked something to package?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:42:12] <ankurs>	Ankur Shrivasta
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:42:18] <ankurs>	me too
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:42:21] <Ankur^^>	not yet...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:42:40] <Ankur^^>	mether: please suggest something?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:43:01] <mether>	anyone got suggestions for ankur to get started?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:43:08] <ankurs>	i was planning for axel
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:43:09] <kushal>	mether, how to check build requires using mock ?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:43:42] <mether>	ankurs: whats axel?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:08] <ankurs>	its a command line download accelator
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:13] <mether>	alright
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:14] <ankurs>	better then wget
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:16] <kushal>	vpn is breaking my connection
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:28] <kushal>	ankurs, prozilla
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:44:40] <mether>	ankurs: do you have a spec in hand?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:45:07] <mether>	Ankur^^: fonts are a safe bet. <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category</A>: Font_wishlist
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:45:48] <ankurs>	well i made one
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:45:51] <Ankur^^>	mether: ill start with one
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:45:56] <ankurs>	wait i will give the url
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:45:57] <mether>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:47:15] <nicbharadwaj>	what's todays agenda??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:47:49] <mether>	packaging walkthrough
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:48:03] <mether>	if you are signing up to be a package maintainer, now would be a good time to start
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:48:06] <prosenji>	ankurs: for your reference -- <A HREF="http://www.filewatcher.com/p/axel-1.0a-3mdk.src.rpm.42990/axel.spec.html">http://www.filewatcher.com/p/axel-1.0a-3 mdk.src.rpm.42990/axel.spec.html</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:48:10] <ankurs>	here is its main page <A HREF="http://freshmeat.net/projects/axel/">http://freshmeat.net/projects/axel/</A> and here is my spec <A HREF="http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec">http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec</A>
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:48:55] <mether>	ankurs: run rpmlint on it. I see mistakes there
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:48:59] <ankurs>	prosenji: will see that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:49:05] <S_pack_F>	thanks mether
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:50:12] <ankurs>	ya
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:50:15] <ankurs>	there are
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:50:21] <Ankur^^>	mether: i chose the "old standard fonts"
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:05] <Ankur^^>	mether: Ill download the .ttf.zip?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:07] <ankurs>	it says invalid licence GPL
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:22] <mether>	yes, download the file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:34] <mether>	ankurs: right, you need to replace that with a specific version
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:51] <mether>	if it is GPLv2 or later, the spec should say GPLv2+
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:54] <ankurs>	mether: ok so GPLv2
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:51:58] <kushal>	mether, can you explain me the steps to check for dependency using mock ?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:52:00] <mether>	the details are in <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing</A>
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:52:17] <mether>	kushal: i can. if you stop getting dc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:52:40] <kushal>	mether, I am trying :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:52:43] <ankurs>	mether: changed it to GPLv2
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:53:20] <mether>	ankurs: ok, let me verify that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:10] <ankurs>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:22] <mether>	kushal: you basically have to run something like mock rebuild -r fedora-devel-i386 /path/to/rpm
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:29] <-> saahil>	hello
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:42] <kushal>	mether, did, then build.log is showing errors
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:49] <mether>	well then
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:54:51] <mether>	check the errors
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:55:34] <kushal>	will be back, let me try to connect to vpn
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:55:52] <prosenji>	mether: <A HREF="http://www.jnvilo.com/dokuwiki/doku.php/rpm_packaging_howto">http://www.jnvilo.com/dokuwiki/doku.php/ rpm_packaging_howto</A> -- good one
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:10] <saahil>	the font archive that i downloaded just has a .pfb file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:14] <S_pack_F>	mether, is packaging fonts something different ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:17] <sankarshan>	keep a ping up on an internal server and you might figure out where you are dropping off
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:32] <saahil>	wat do i do of that?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:38] <mether>	prosenji: it is already added as a reference from create package howto iirc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:56:55] <mether>	ankurs: you need to change that to GPLv2+
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:57:27] <prosenji>	mether: ok.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:57:39] <Ankur^^>	mether: downloaded and extracted..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:57:40] <ankurs>	changing it to GPLv2 solved the license error
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:11] <mether>	GPLv2 is a valid tag but it isnt the correct tag for the source code
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:22] <saahil>	ok that means the font file i downloaded isn't a true type font, which shudn't make a diff rite?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:32] <mether>	GPLv2 means only the GPLv2 license. GPLv2+ means GPL v2 or later
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:39] <ankurs>	mether: ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:44] <mether>	saahil: it is the "source" of the font

[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:58:55] <mether>	you need to compile it to get the actual binary font
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:59:28] <mether>	ankurs: after you change it, you can go ahead and submit it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:59:35] <Ankur^^>	mether: my extraction has two ttf files.. one for italic too.. and 3 txt files..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:59:40] <saahil>	do i compile it right away? or is that what eventually v r going to do here?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [18:59:40] <mether>	for review. I will take a look after that
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:02] <mether>	saahil: which font are we talking about. show me the upstream link
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:30] <saahil>	one moment plz
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:32] <mether>	ankurs: do you know the submission process?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:35] <Ankur^^>	mether: that ok right?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:42] <saahil>	<A HREF="http://www.theory.org/~matt/fonts/free/?font=bpl">http://www.theory.org/~matt/fonts/free/? font=bpl</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:44] <mether>	yes, thats ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:00:58] <saahil>	its called banana peels
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:02:48] <mether>	right. it is a postscript font
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:03:01] <mether>	do you have a spec you have written already or do you want to start now?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:03:16] <saahil>	no i dont have a spec file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:03:27] <Ankur^^>	mether: he sitting in my room with me,.. gonna start now.. :-D
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:12] <ankur_>	sry got dc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:16] <mether>	not really. whats installed on your system isnt very relevant for the most part
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:25] <Ankur^^^>	me too..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:38] <Ankur^^^>	mether: what do we do now?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:38] <S_pack_F>	ok so what are the diffrences mether ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:43] <saahil>	i have rpmdevtools installed on this
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:56] <ankur_>	mether: rpmlint on my srpm still says strange permissions
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:05:56] <saahil>	6.6-1
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:06:05] <ankur_>	prosenji: that is similar to what i did and will give the same errors on rpmlint
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:06:07] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/FontsPolicy">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ FontsPolicy</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:06:18] <mether>	ankur_: can you post the output?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:00] <ankur_>	mether: axel.src: W: strange-permission axel-1.1.tar.gz 0775
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:23] <mether>	thats ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:30] <mether>	you cant change the permission of the upstream tarball
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:41] <mether>	you can only change what it is being packaged
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:47] <saahil>	wat do i do now? wat bout the spec file?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:07:53] <ankur_>	mether
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:08:04] <ankur_>	mether: so what should i do now
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:08:11] <-> saahil>	lets begin ourself thoda bahut...??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:08:15] <mether>	ankur_: you can go ahead and submit the package for review
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:08:41] <mether>	saahil: a font template is available at /etc/rpmdevtools
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:09:02] <ankur_>	mether: but the rpm i build says axel.i386: W: non-standard-dir-in-usr etc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:09:15] <mether>	ankur_: umm. didnt you post the entire output before?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:09:37] <kushal>	I guess no
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:09:47] <mether>	please post the entire output
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:10:32] <ankur_>	mether: this is the error with rpm
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:10:42] <ankur_>	and previous was with srpm
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:11:10] <mether>	can you upload everything somewhere?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:11:17] <ankur_>	k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:11:21] <ankur_>	in a min
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:13:20] <mether>	saahil: got it?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:14:09] <saahil>	yeah i got the spec template for font files. trying to comprehend
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:14:25] <mether>	ok, feel free to ask questions
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:14:33] <Ankur^^^>	mether: how do you name the spec file for a font?? just fontname.spec?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:15:23] <mether>	foo-fonts is the usual style
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:15:29] <Ankur^^^>	mether: k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:15:46] <prosenji>	ankur_: is your problem is after review of this <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454980">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi ?id=454980</A> ?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:16:38] <ankur_>	mether: yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:17:03] <Ankur^^^>	mether: %define fontdir has to be given location of the extraction right?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:17:19] <mether>	correct
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:20:47] <Ankur_^^>	mether: i have this in the font template.. " %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}" i just change the /fonts? what is the datadir ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:21:34] <mether>	i guess you are getting dc over and over again
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:21:39] <mether>	<saahil> and wat is the {_datadir}
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:21:40] <mether>	<mether> there are standard macros as defined in <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/RPMMacros">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ RPMMacros</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:21:51] <saahil>	yeah i m reading that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:21:53] <Ankur_^^>	mether: yes... thats why there are 3 nicks on my name..
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:22:18] <mether>	saahil: i was merely pointing it out again to Ankur*
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:22:19] <saahil>	so i guess i just have to change the <fonts> fields to the name of my font?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:22:35] <ankurs>	mether: was it me
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:22:55] <mether>	saahil: yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:23:03] <mether>	ankurs: nope. what else do you need to fix
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:23:49] <mintos>	mether, review request link doesn't seems to be working <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&format=extras-review">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ent er_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&format=extras- review</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:23:59] <ankurs>	mether: axel.i386: W: non-standard-dir-in-usr etc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:24:02] <saahil>	%define fontdir  %{_datadir}/fonts/banap
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:24:22] <ankurs>	when i do rpmlint axel-1.1-1.fc9.i386.rpm
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:24:56] <saahil>	so i change it too %define /home/saahil/Desktop/Peels  %{_datadir}/fonts/banap
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:01] <saahil>	yeah?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:09] <ankurs>	mether: uploaded them Spec URL: <A HREF="http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec">http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:18] <mether>	ankurs: rpmlint -I non-standard-dir-in-usr etc defines what the warning means
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:20] <ankurs>	mether: SRPM URL: <A HREF="http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel-1.1-1.fc9.src.rpm">http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel-1.1-1.fc9. src.rpm</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:31] <ankurs>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:25:58] <mether>	saahil: not sure what you defined it to. upload it somewhere and i can check
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:26:22] <Ankur_^^>	mether: what is the fontconfdir supposed to hold?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:26:24] <saahil>	no i just changed that line to the one i just wrote above
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:27:15] <mether>	alright
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:27:16] <ankurs>	mether: dir /usr/etc is not a standard directory, what do i do now??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:27:23] <Ankur_^^>	?
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:27:49] <mether>	ankurs: you need to place it elsewhere depending on what file it is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:27:57] <Ankur^^>	mether: what is the fontconfdir supposed to hold?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:28:02] <mether>	patience
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:28:07] <Ankur^^>	mether: sorry
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:28:46] <mether>	everything is defined more in <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_fonts_spec_template">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_ fonts_spec_template</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:29:06] <ankurs>	mether: how do i do that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:30:55] <ankurs>	mether: ???
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:31:03] <mether>	patience folks
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:31:05] <mether>	i am checking
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:31:24] <ankurs>	mether: o sry
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:31:46] <mether>	ankurs: you need to move the file from usr/etc to /etc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:32:06] <mether>	it is probably a configure option
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:33:09] <mether>	yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:33:10] <mether>	it is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:33:18] <mether>	--etcdir=/etc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:34:04] <ankurs>	oops
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:34:07] <Ankur^^>	mether: SIL Open Font License .. I mention this as is?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:34:10] <ankurs>	mether: ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:34:16] <ankurs>	will change the spec
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:34:25] <mether>	Ankur^^ OFL
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:36:18] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay.. this link you gave <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_fonts_spec_template">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_ fonts_spec_template</A> doesnt have a "build requires" line .. Do we delete that from the template?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:36:46] <mether>	unless you are building a font from source it is not required, so you can remove them
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:37:38] <Ankur^^>	mether: Is this correct? %define fontdir  %{_datadir}/home/Ankur/Desktop/oldstand- 1.0.ttf
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:37:48] <mether>	nope
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:37:58] <mether>	the font doesnt get installed into home
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:37:59] <mether>	at al
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:38:22] <mether>	you shouldnt give it the current location
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:38:25] <Ankur^^>	mether: oh.. dats the install directory.. sorry.. leave it as is i guess?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:38:35] <mether>	you need to define it to the location where it should get installed after the rpm package
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:39:41] <mether>	feel free to look at existing font specs
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:40:51] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay.. looking.. a minute please..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:42:55] <ankurs>	mether: how do i define the file /etc/axelrc as a config file
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:43:35] <mether>	ankurs: is there any need to do that?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:44:11] <ankurs>	i am getting error on rpmlint on my rpm axel.i386: W: non-conffile-in-etc /etc/axelrc\
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:44:40] <Ankur^^>	mether: <A HREF="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/VLGothic-fonts/F-9/VLGothic-fonts.spec?view=markup">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpm s/VLGothic-fonts/F-9/VLGothic-fonts.spec ?view=markup</A> Im looking at this one.. what do i fill for source0 and source1?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:45:04] <mether>	ankurs: you can ignore that if it is indeed a conf file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:45:31] <mether>	Ankur^^: unless you have more than one source file. you shouldnt do that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:45:44] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:46:11] <Ankur^^>	mether: Its okay if I copy paste text from their site for description?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:46:14] <ankurs>	but the description says A non-executable file in your package is being installed in /etc, but is not a configuration file. All non-executable files in /etc should be configuration files. Mark the file as %config in the spec file.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:46:53] <mether>	ankurs: %config in %files should fix that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:47:10] <ankurs>	mether: ????
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:47:52] <mether>	%config patch to config file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:47:56] <mether>	under %files section
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:48:07] <ankurs>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:48:20] <mether>	s/patch/path
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:14] <saahil>	i guess m done with the specfile
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:28] <mether>	run rpmlint on it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:32] <saahil>	its not mandatory to write in the Description part of the file rite?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:33] <mether>	and build it under mock once
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:41] <mether>	it is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:46] <saahil>	it is?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:48] <saahil>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:49:51] <mether>	yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:50:40] <ankurs>	mether: no error now
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:51:07] <mether>	ankurs: excellent. bump the version and upload it to the review request again
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:51:23] <mether>	rpmdev-bumpspec can help
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:51:29] <ankurs>	mether: k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:53:33] <saahil>	thrs an example which shows the spec file for a ttf. do i simply replace *.ttf and *.otf with *.pfb
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:53:34] <saahil>	?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:54:00] <mether>	afaik, yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:54:40] <Ankur^^>	mether: leave the * or put the font name there? the spec file we are looking at has font name..?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:06] <saahil>	yes it does
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:13] <mether>	specify it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:22] <saahil>	banap__.pfb
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:27] <saahil>	this is the one that i have
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:31] <ankurs>	mether: done that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:33] <mether>	right
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:51] <ankurs>	Spec URL: <A HREF="http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec">http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel.spec</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:55:54] <saahil>	the one i m looking at is VLGothic-font.ttf
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:56:01] <ankurs>	SRPM URL: <A HREF="http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel-1.1-1.fc9.src.rpm">http://www.ankurs.com/fb/axel-1.1-1.fc9. src.rpm</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:57:01] <mether>	ankurs: did you fix all the issues mentioned in the review
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:57:08] <mether>	what about the compilation option
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:58:08] <Ankur^^>	mether: can we send you the specfile so you could have a look?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [19:58:25] <mether>	you can upload anywhere and post me the link
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:01:12] <ankurs>	mether: didnt get * The BuildRoot tag is truncated/damaged.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:02:30] <mether>	<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging /Guidelines</A> has acceptable build root tags
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:05:08] <saahil>	<A HREF="http://essentialrarities.wordpress.com/files/2008/08/spectemplate-fontsspec.doc">http://essentialrarities.wordpress.com/f iles/2008/08/spectemplate-fontsspec.doc</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:05:18] <saahil>	mether: plz see the file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:05:41] <saahil>	changed the extension to doc cuz wordpress aint accepting others
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:07:11] <mether>	description is missing
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:07:15] <mether>	the file is listed twice
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:07:17] <mether>	in %files
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:07:40] <saahil>	wat does that mean? wat do i do?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:07:57] <mether>	you are listing the file twice

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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:08:05] <mether>	you need to list it only once
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:08:28] <ankur_>	mether: its %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release }-root only
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:08:36] <ankur_>	which is there
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:08:40] <ankur_>	on that page
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:09:09] <mether>	then submit the new spec as it is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:09:46] <ankur_>	mether: and one more * Why is internationalisation disable?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:09:53] <ankur_>	how do i enable that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:10:08] <mether>	check your configure option
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:10:13] <saahil>	ok done that...nething apart from that?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:10:16] <mether>	it says it is disabling i18n
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:10:51] <ankur_>	oops will do that
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:11:28] <ankur_>	mether: should i also enable debugging
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:11:52] <mether>	i think so
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:11:57] <mether>	wait
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:12:02] <mether>	what does debugging involve
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:13:03] <Ankur^^>	mether : <A HREF="http://www.filefactory.com/file/7678f6/n/Old_Standard-fonts_spec">http://www.filefactory.com/file/7678f6/n /Old_Standard-fonts_spec</A> lonk for my spec.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:13:09] <ankur_>	i dont think it will be required
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:14:51] <Ankur^^>	mether: [Package@Ankur SPECS]$ rpmlint Old_Standard-fonts.spec
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:15:02] <Ankur^^>	0 packages and 1 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 0 warnings.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:15:18] <mether>	both of you need to write a conf file
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:15:49] <Ankur^^>	mether: uhm.. meaning?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:15:55] <mether>	I have to leave now however. We can continue this tom if you folks are available
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:15:59] <ankur_>	mether: even after i do --il8n=1 it sys Internationalization disabled.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:10] <ankur_>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:14] <saahil>	yeah k. thx a ton for today
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:16] <saahil>	:-D
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:19] <Ankur^^>	mether: let us know whenever you are fre..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:20] <ankur_>	but when tom
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:29] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Fontconfig">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts /Packaging/Fontconfig</A>
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:35] <mether>	6:30 PM. same time?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:42] <ankur_>	ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:44] <Ankur^^>	mether: okya thankyou.. will probably have it ready by tomorrow..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:16:49] <ankur_>	no prb
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:00] <Ankur^^>	mether: yes .. thats fine with me..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:03] <mether>	alright. thanks. see you all tom
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:12] <S_pack_F>	thanks mether
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:16] <S_pack_F>	see you tommorow
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:16] <Ankur^^>	mether: thankyou for your patience.. :-)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:29] <mether>	np
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:47] <ankur_>	mether: ya thank you
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:17:51] <ankur_>	very much
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:15:13] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ everyone might not be looking at the room all the time, only when you call someone by name a notification happens..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:15:50] <Ankur^^>	techbugs: okay.. I din't know that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:16:05] <Ankur^^>	techbugs: Can you help me please?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:16:55] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ what exactly u r trying to do
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:17:23] <Ankur^^>	techbugs: mether was teaching us packaging yesterday.. He said fonts are the simplest so we started from that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:18:09] <Ankur^^>	techbugs: We made spec files . mether said we needed to make conf files. Thats what Im trying to do..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:18:45] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: We made spec files . mether said we needed to make conf files. Thats what Im trying to do..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:19:53] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: here is the spec file.. <A HREF="http://www.filefactory.com/file/7678f6/n/Old_Standard-fonts_spec">http://www.filefactory.com/file/7678f6/n /Old_Standard-fonts_spec</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:21:09] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: Ive managed to make a conf file after reading the howtos and files from the cvs. I dont know how to use it though.. Which directory etc do I place it ? Can you please help me with that?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:21:44] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:21:58] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig _packaging_tips</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:22:32] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: I place the conf file there..? Do I need to mention it anywhere in the spec file?
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:23:17] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: Ive read that page.. It describes the conf file.. Not what to do with it.. :-(
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:24:12] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: this is the conf file.. <A HREF="http://www.filefactory.com/file/2f6398/n/Old_Standard-fonts_conf">http://www.filefactory.com/file/2f6398/n /Old_Standard-fonts_conf</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:25:59] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ Thats cool. :) i think its time for you to wake up mether .. whenever he s around.. i havnt packaged a font before
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:29:11] <Ankur^^^>	techbugs: okay.. He's going to teach us again at 6:30.. Just thought I'd do some homework.. :)
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:29:15] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ try <A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/browser/F-8/liberation-fonts.spec?rev=e19a0d79b10033f18fca4db03995b79d11dc92fe">https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-font s/browser/F-8/liberation-fonts.spec?rev= e19a0d79b10033f18fca4db03995b79d11dc92fe</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [17:29:43] <techbugs>	Ankur^^ k..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:03:24] <sankarshan>	<A HREF="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-August/msg00007.html">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-i ndia/2008-August/msg00007.html</A> <-- need someone to help out with this
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:26:37] <Ankur^^>	mether: Hello.. Are you here?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:26:43] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:27:46] <Ankur^^>	mether: I made a conf file.. <A HREF="http://www.filefactory.com/file/2f6398/n/Old_Standard-fonts_conf">http://www.filefactory.com/file/2f6398/n /Old_Standard-fonts_conf</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:28:02] <Ankur^^>	mether: Can you please check it?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:28:57] <mether>	the name of the conf file is important
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:29:03] <mether>	the initial number indicates the category
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:29:16] <mether>	i gave you a wiki page that explains that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:29:35] <Ankur^^>	yes.. the conf page..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:06] <mether>	use the conf file from <A HREF="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/VLGothic-fonts/devel/">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpm s/VLGothic-fonts/devel/</A> as a template
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:06] <Ankur^^>	mether: 01-xy.conf etc..?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:11] <mether>	right
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:24] <Ankur^^>	mether: So how should i name this one?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:36] <mether>	check the wiki page, it has the numbers
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:30:42] <mether>	is this a decorative font?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:31:20] <Ankur^^>	it says multilingual font..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:31:30] <Ankur^^>	<A HREF="http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html">http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts. html</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:31:36] <Ankur^^>	Thats the link..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:32:56] <mether>	yep, thats a decorative font
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:15] <Ankur^^>	the wiki page has a paragraph on it right in the beginning. Doesnt exactly say how to number..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:31] <mether>	the file should
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:44] <mether>	start with the number in the range of 65 to 69
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:49] <mether>	there are other fonts listed
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:55] <Ankur^^>	smaller prefix = higher precedence is what it says..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:33:57] <mether>	in <A HREF="http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/">http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpm s/</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:34:01] <mether>	go through them
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:34:06] <Ankur^^>	okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:34:13] <mether>	the prefix range is listed in the page
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:34:18] <mether>	at <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Fontconfig">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts /Packaging/Fontconfig</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:34:29] <mether>	65-69 Fonts with less common encodings, ending with fonts that provide coverage of exotic unicode blocks at the expense of drawing quality
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:35:11] <Ankur^^>	sorry .. Missed that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:36:25] <Ankur^^>	Im on the cvs page.. There are quite a few packages here. What am I looking for?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:36:33] <Ankur^^>	i meant font packages..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:37:31] <saahil>	hello room
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:37:39] <saahil>	did i miss a lot?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:37:51] <mether>	nope
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:05] <mether>	Ankur^^ search for "font"
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:10] <saahil>	so i m done with my Spec file....wat next?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:20] <ankurs>	hello everyone
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:35] <saahil>	hey
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:45] <Ankur^^>	I did.. opened the pages in new tabs..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:56] <mether>	saahil: this was a font package?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:38:59] <mether>	ankurs: hello
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:39:01] <saahil>	yeah

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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:39:05] <saahil>	a postscript font
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:39:18] <ankurs>	mether: hi
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:39:37] <Ankur^^>	mether: I opened their directories.. now i look for a conf file?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:39:55] <mether>	ok, i havent gone through a ps font before so i guess you can just run rpmlint and if it passed, post it for review
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:00] <mether>	yes, a conf file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:11] <mether>	for any of the decorative fonts should give you enough ideas
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:12] <ankurs>	mether: there is some problem with the configure script
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:27] <mether>	post the output
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:32] <saahil>	wat is the actualy command to run rpmlint? wat file do i run it on?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:40:52] <Ankur^^>	run it on the spec file. rpmlint program.spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:01] <mether>	you need to run it on the spec file/ srpm and rpm
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:29] <Ankur^^>	mether: most of these dont have conf files..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:36] <mether>	Ankur^^, you might want to pick a different nick. your current makes it hard to refer to you
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:45] <mether>	pick ones that have conf files
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:47] <mether>	there are several
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:51] <saahil>	hehe
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:41:54] <Ankur^^>	okay.. ill change.. 1 minute
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:10] <franciscod>	mether: this is fine?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:13] <saahil>	i ran rpmlint on the spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:20] <mether>	franciscod: alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:23] <saahil>	no output, but no error either
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:46] <mether>	saahil: did you build a srpm/rpm ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:54] <saahil>	no??
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:43:59] <saahil>	i just made the spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:44:20] <franciscod>	mether: 59-VLGothic-proportional.conf .. Can I use this one?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:44:22] <saahil>	named it as <fontname>.spec (ie. banap__.spec)
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:45:00] <mether>	franciscod: yes, you have to change the prefix to 65 and rename the conf file itself
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:45:16] <mether>	saahil: rpmbuild -ba <spec> will do that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:45:35] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. Ill do that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:08] <mether>	did any of you apply for a Fedora account?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:10] <franciscod>	mether: I used this one itself.. someone from #fedora-devel had told me..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:27] <mether>	which one itself?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:30] <franciscod>	mether: I have a FAS account.. Is that what you're referring to?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:41] <franciscod>	mether: I used the conf file I asked you about..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:46:54] <franciscod>	mether: 59-VLGothic-proportional.conf
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:00] <saahil>	error: File /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/BananaPeels-1.0. 0.tar.bz2: No such file or directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:07] <mether>	franciscod: yes, you need to rename it to match your font name
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:09] <saahil>	this is the output
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:15] <franciscod>	mether: I just have to add the prefix that means..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:27] <mether>	saahil: yes, the tarball or archive should be in that location
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:41] <mether>	franciscod: the prefix range is listed in the page
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:42] <mether>	at <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Fontconfig">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts /Packaging/Fontconfig</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:47:42] <mether>	65-69 Fonts with less common encodings, ending with fonts that provide coverage of exotic unicode blocks at the expense of drawing quality
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:24] <saahil>	mether: ok, let me do that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:35] <franciscod>	mether: yes.. I can use any number from 65 to 69? randomly? Any rule for that?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:35] <mether>	franciscod: your current prefix would work
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:49] <mether>	the higher numbers have lower priority
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:52] <franciscod>	mether: 69-Old_Standard_fonts.conf
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:56] <mether>	forget about the prefix. fix the name for now
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:48:58] <franciscod>	mether: I changed it to this
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:01] <mether>	and make sure the content is correct
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:12] <mether>	alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:18] <mether>	does the content match
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:24] <mether>	what you copied off from?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:36] <franciscod>	mether: yes.. I removed a few tit bits..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:41] <mether>	alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:49:45] <franciscod>	mether: and changed the family..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:50:18] <franciscod>	mether: to Old Standard.. given on the font's site..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:02] <mether>	dont change the family name
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:11] <franciscod>	mether: Is there a way to check the conf file?? like the rpmlint spec thing?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:17] <franciscod>	mether: Okay.. ill change it back..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:34] <mether>	no, we dont have a checker for conf files.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:43] <franciscod>	mether: I leave the family as sans-serif?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:51:50] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:03] <saahil>	mether: the tarball doesn't have the same name as the font itself. and its not a .tar.gz its a .tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:13] <mether>	what is it then
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:21] <mether>	in the spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:30] <debarshi>	saahil: .tgz == .tar.gz usually.
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:40] <mether>	there is a macro called %setup. right?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:52:50] <saahil>	mmm...a moment
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:08] <saahil>	mether: no there isn't
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:23] <mether>	whats your spec file called
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:33] <saahil>	banap__.spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:46] <mether>	rename that to banap-fonts.spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:50] <saahil>	and the tarball is named bpl.tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:52] <mether>	let me check if i have a copy of that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:53:58] <saahil>	do i rename the spec file?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:54:04] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:54:10] <mether>	not to bpp
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:54:12] <mether>	bpl
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:54:24] <mether>	whats the upstream url?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:54:55] <mether>	the place where you downloaded the font
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:08] <saahil>	mmm....let me give it to u
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:20] <saahil>	mether: <A HREF="http://www.theory.org/~matt/fonts/free/?font=bpl">http://www.theory.org/~matt/fonts/free/? font=bpl</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:30] <mether>	ok
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:33] <mether>	rename the spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:38] <mether>	to bpl-fonts.spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:45] <mether>	and change the name inside the spec too
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:55:49] <saahil>	k
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:56:12] <mether>	just for future reference, if the spec file is different from the archive name
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:56:20] <mether>	setup -n <archive> works as well
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:56:43] <mether>	but in this case, since upstream calls it bpl, thats the name we go with too
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:56:48] <franciscod>	mether: this is the new file.. <A HREF="http://www.filefactory.com/file/527668/n/69-Old_Standard_fonts_conf">http://www.filefactory.com/file/527668/n /69-Old_Standard_fonts_conf</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:00] <mether>	alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:10] <mether>	franciscod: you have fas account name, already?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:15] <franciscod>	mether: Yes..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:26] <franciscod>	mether: for the free media group..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:27] <mether>	apply for fedorabugs and packager
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:29] <mether>	groups
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:29] <saahil>	mether: what name do i change inside the spec file? the font file is called banap__.pfb. so i guess i cant change that?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:38] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. 1 min.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:57:58] <mether>	saahil: nope. i have to look at your spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:58:07] <mether>	saahil: copy and paste it to fpaste.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:58:21] <mether>	dont keep upload files to random websites. makes it difficult to check
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:58:34] <saahil>	ok
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:06] <mether>	saahil: do you have a fedora account too?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:12] <saahil>	yeah
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:19] <franciscod>	mether: what do we do with the conf file? Assuming its correct?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:25] <mether>	you must also apply for packager and fedorabugs groups
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:38] <mether>	franciscod: like i said, copy and paste the content to fpaste.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [18:59:53] <saahil>	<A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4319">http://fpaste.org/paste/4319</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:00:07] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:01:41] <mether>	saahil: change BananaPeels to bpl in the start of the spec
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:01:57] <franciscod>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4320">http://fpaste.org/paste/4320</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:05] <saahil>	k. and ??
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:35] <mether>	saahil: and in the source0 name should match the tarball name
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:41] <mether>	yours says .tar.bz2
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:46] <mether>	while the actual file is .tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:49] <saahil>	ok so i change it to .tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:50] <mether>	so you have to change that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:02:53] <saahil>	k
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:03:07] <saahil>	done that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:03:20] <mether>	change the summary to BananaPeels postscript font
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:03:23] <mether>	add a description also
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:04:22] <mether>	franciscod: remove <family>VL PGothic</family>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:04:35] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:04:36] <saahil>	mether: done that too
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:04:53] <mether>	did you both apply to the groups i mentioned in your fedora account?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:05:00] <franciscod>	mether: applying..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:05:24] <saahil>	me too
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:05:44] <franciscod>	mether: removed.. anything else?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:05:56] <mether>	that should do it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:06:09] <saahil>	mether: copied the tgz into /etc/src/redhat/SOURCES
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:06:20] <mether>	run rpmbuild -ba
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:06:46] <franciscod>	mether: where do I have to place this conf file? Its in my home folder currently.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:08:39] <saahil>	mether: it still gives me the same error
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:00] <saahil>	error: File /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/BananaPeels-1.0. 0.tar.bz2: No such file or directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:10] <mether>	saahil: the file is not there. check
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:37] <mether>	franciscod: in your home directory, run rpmdev-setuptree
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:49] <saahil>	i changed the filename to bpl and also pasted bpl.tgz to /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:52] <franciscod>	mether: I did that.. it was on the packagehowto page..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:09:56] <saahil>	also changed the spec filename
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:06] <franciscod>	mether: I made a new user etc.. according to the howto..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:09] <mether>	franciscod: copy the spec to rpmbuild/SPEC
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:18] <franciscod>	mether: Its there already..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:23] <mether>	and the source and conf file to the SOURCES directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:30] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:10:39] <mether>	saahil: whats the trouble now?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:11:10] <franciscod>	mether: source meaning the extrcted folder or the tt.zip?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:11:16] <franciscod>	mether: ttf.zip?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:11:21] <mether>	the archive, yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:11:30] <saahil>	even after changing the filename and pasting the tarball in that location its giving the same error
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:11:57] <mether>	your source0 link is still incorrect
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:12:00] <mether>	post it to fpaste.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:12:08] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:13:03] <franciscod>	mether: Done that.. now to build it?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:13:21] <mether>	rpmbuild -ba specfilename.spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:14:11] <franciscod>	mether: error: line 5: Tag takes single token only: Name: Old Standard-fonts
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:14:26] <mether>	paste your spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:14:48] <mether>	check what line 5 is
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:15:05] <mether>	paste just like 5
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:15:58] <franciscod>	mether: Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:10] <mether>	why is there so much space in front
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:26] <franciscod>	mether: thats how vim shows it.. indentation i guess..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:29] <saahil>	mether: error: File /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/bpl-1.0.0.tgz: No such file or directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:32] <franciscod>	mether: %define fontname Old Standard
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:50] <mether>	saahil: is the file in that location or not
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:16:58] <mether>	franciscod: please post the entire spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:17:13] <franciscod>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4321">http://fpaste.org/paste/4321</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:17:34] <saahil>	yes it is, checked it thrice over
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:17:35] <mether>	you cant leave a space in the fontname
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:17:50] <mether>	saahil: ll /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/bpl-1.0.0.tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:18:04] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. _ will do?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:18:50] <mether>	franciscod: just call it oldstandard
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:19:33] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:20:59] <mether>	alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:21:00] <mether>	i was telling you, call it oldstandard
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:21:21] <Ankur^^>	mether: my other ID is stuck here.. can someone kick it or something?? "franciscod" one..?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:21:27] <Ankur^^>	mether: Ill just change it..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:21:58] <saahil>	mether: so i just remove the version field in the spec file?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:22:16] <mether>	can you paste your latest spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:22:27] <saahil>	k
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:22:59] <Ankur^^>	mether: /usr/bin/unzip -qq /home/Package/rpmbuild/SOURCES/oldstand- 1.0.ttf.zip
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:23:14] <Ankur^^>	mether: replace OldStandard-Italic.ttf? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename:
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:23:27] <Ankur^^>	mether: what should I enter?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:23:29] <mether>	give me the spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:23:41] <saahil>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4322">http://fpaste.org/paste/4322</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:24:54] <Ankur^^>	mether: Im a part of fedorabugs already.. applied for packagers..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:25:38] <mether>	saahil: yes, you need to fix the version number to match the tarball
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:26:13] <saahil>	but the tarball doesn't have ne version number
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:26:16] <saahil>	simply bpl.tgz
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:26:44] <mether>	thats fine
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:26:49] <mether>	remove your version number
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:27:12] <Ankur^^>	mether: sir..what do I enter?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:27:36] <mether>	hold on
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:27:51] <mether>	you didnt give me your spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:28:03] <saahil>	mether: it gives an error again. says line 6: Empty tag: Version:
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:28:13] <Ankur^^>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4321">http://fpaste.org/paste/4321</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:28:23] <Ankur^^>	mether: I have changed the name to oldstandard
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:28:24] <mether>	saahil: {fontname}-%{version}.tgz . remove version from that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:28:34] <saahil>	k
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:29:12] <mether>	saahil: if you havent understood yet, the source is the name of your archive
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:30:14] <saahil>	tar: banap___.pfb: Cannot open: Permission denied
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:30:14] <saahil>	tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:32:02] <Ankur^^>	mether: is the spec file okay?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:32:24] <mether>	patience
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:32:27] <mether>	i am checking
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:32:39] <Ankur^^>	mether: sorry..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:41:27] <-> saahil>	wut u upto
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:42:02] <franciscod>	am i disconnected?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:42:07] <mether>	nope
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:42:25] <franciscod>	mether: ok.. just checking.. too quiet..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:45:54] <franciscod>	mether: checking still ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:46:03] <mether>	yep
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:46:11] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:47:55] <mether>	you have removed stuff
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:47:59] <mether>	from the spec that makes it confusing
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:48:16] <franciscod>	mether: I hardly removed anything.. :)
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:48:33] <mether>	%define fontname in the start of the spec is missing
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:48:54] <franciscod>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4321">http://fpaste.org/paste/4321</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:12] <mether>	nah
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:16] <mether>	that is still incorrect
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:24] <mether>	i told you to change the name to oldstandard
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:27] <mether>	just the top of the spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:41] <franciscod>	mether: I did that.. i messaged saying i made that change..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:50] <mether>	the paste is incorrect
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:49:53] <mether>	it shows the old name
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:09] <franciscod>	mether: everything else is same.. only the name is oldstandard.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:16] <mether>	well really
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:19] <mether>	i need the latest spec
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:20] <mether>	as it ias
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:23] <mether>	for me to verify
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:29] <mether>	i wont get the same output otherwise
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:50:29] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. one minute..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:51:27] <franciscod>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4323">http://fpaste.org/paste/4323</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:51:36] <franciscod>	mether: here.. the latest one.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:51:47] <mether>	alright
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:52:05] <mether>	the fundamental problem is that the upstream tarball
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:52:08] <mether>	doesnt create a directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:52:34] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. so what do we do?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:53:20] <mether>	thats what i am checking
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:54:06] <franciscod>	mether: can we package the extracted material into a tar.gz and do it? just asking.. will that be okay?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:54:13] <mether>	debarshi: do you remember the syntax for that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:54:27] <mether>	franciscod: nope. the upstream archive cannot be modified in any way
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:54:38] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. anyway.. I ran the rpmbuild..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:54:44] <franciscod>	mether: it gives me this..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:05] <mether>	right, i just explained what the error means
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:06]	* debarshi is reading
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:10] <franciscod>	mether: + /usr/bin/unzip -qq /home/Package/rpmbuild/SOURCES/oldstand- 1.0.ttf.zip
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:23] <franciscod>	mether: replace OldStandard-Italic.ttf? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename:
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:28] <mether>	franciscod: i understand the error. like i said
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:29] <debarshi>	mether: Syntax for what?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:40] <mether>	debarshi: upstream archive doesnt create a directory
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:55:53] <mether>	setup -c doesnt seem to make it work or I am getting it wrong
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:56:02] <mether>	debarshi: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4323">http://fpaste.org/paste/4323</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:56:15] <franciscod>	mether: Is that an error?? what i pasted?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:56:27] <mether>	yes and I already explained it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:56:43]	* debarshi clicks
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:56:49] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. so what do i enter for the time being? n..?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:20] <mether>	you are missing parts of the conversation for some reason
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:35] <mether>	the fundamental problem is that the upstream tarball
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:35] <mether>	doesnt create a directory
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:35] <mether>	<franciscod> mether: okay.. so what do we do?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:35] <mether>	<mether> thats what i am checking
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:57:52]	* debarshi checks his own Specs
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:58:05] <franciscod>	mether: got that.. okay..I dint understand that as an error.. sorry..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:59:40] <mether>	the usual case is the archive will create a directory with the same name and then extract the files into that
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [19:59:56] <mether>	since this zip file doesnt do that, we have to workaround that in the spec file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:07] <mether>	the exact syntax escapes me now. I will have to cross check
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:25] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:30] <debarshi>	'%setup -q -n .' <-- might work
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:54] <mether>	nah
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:55] <debarshi>	... in the %prep stanza.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:56] <mether>	it wont
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:00:58] <mether>	try it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:01:08] <debarshi>	mether: Can't try here now.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:01:56] <mether>	franciscod: ask in #fedora-devel. I dont remember the syntax
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:02:27] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:02:51] <mether>	its a fairly simple argument
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:03:00] <franciscod>	mether: can you give me the exact question to ask?? Theyll understand it better that way..?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:03:18] <franciscod>	mether: I might not be able to explain it very well..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:03:30] <mether>	franciscod: post the fpaste link and ask whats wrong with it. that should be enough
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:03:36] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:05:31] <franciscod>	mether: no replies.. waiting..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:05:54] <mether>	franciscod: it wont be instantaneous . you need patience.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:06:05] <franciscod>	mether: yes.. im waiting.. :)
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:07:39] <mether>	btw
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:07:50] <mether>	i didnt get a request for approving fedorabugs group
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:07:57] <mether>	did you apply to that group yet
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:08:04] <franciscod>	mether: I was already there..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:08:23] <franciscod>	mether: I had signed up for bug triaging.. was trying to learn..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:08:24] <mether>	franciscod: then you should be able to login to fedorapeople.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:08:33] <mether>	with your fedora account name and password
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:08:34] <franciscod>	mether: Ill try..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:10:24] <debarshi>	mether: -c
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:10:32] <debarshi>	franciscod: Use -c with %setup.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:10:44] <franciscod>	mether: uhm.. the login links not on fedorapeople.org.. is it?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:10:46] <debarshi>	<A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-inside-macros.html">http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-inside -macros.html</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:10:58] <mether>	debarshi: %setup -q -c oldstand?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:11:02] <mether>	that doesnt work either
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:11:17] <mether>	franciscod: i have no idea what that question means
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:11:45] <mether>	ah interesting
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:11:51] <mether>	it fails with another error
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:11:58] <mether>	i sup -c does make it pass that stage
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:12:57] <mether>	franciscod: i found the mistake. your install section is wrong
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:13:41] <franciscod>	mether: what in it?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:14:36] <debarshi>	mether: %setup -q -c should do.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:14:49] <debarshi>	Or %setup -q -c -n oldstand
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:14:51] <mether>	install -dm 755 OldStandard.ttf OldStandard-Italic.ttf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:06] <mether>	that creates a directory with the names of the file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:12] <mether>	because of -dm
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:13] <debarshi>	One can specify a name only with -n.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:16] <mether>	d there means directory
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:27] <mether>	and the permissions are wrong
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:31] <mether>	it should be 644
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:55] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. and i leave the * s as in the example?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:15:57] <mether>	there are still more errors
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:16:23] <mether>	where is *s?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:16:56] <mether>	i am not sure what you are referring to
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:16] <franciscod>	mether: # for example: install -pm 644 *.ttf *.otf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:22] <franciscod>	mether: this way?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:38] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:46] <mether>	but you have to modify it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:51] <mether>	to apply to the filenames
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:17:53] <mether>	in your archive
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:18:27] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. what should it be?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:18:44] <mether>	can you make a guess
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:18:58] <franciscod>	mether: uhm.. give me a minute to think..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:19:05] <mether>	if i have to give you the spec line by line, i am not sure you would have learned anything by the end of the process
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:20:14] <franciscod>	mether: install -p -m644 fontname.ttf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{fontdir}
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:20:57] <Ankur^^>	mether: install -p -m644 fontname.ttf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{fontdir}
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:21:03] <Ankur^^>	mether: something like that?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:21:08] <mether>	right
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:21:10] <mether>	change it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:21:18] <Ankur^^>	mether: thats correct?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:21:34] <mether>	you have to change it to to the exact files for me to be sure
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:22:26] <mether>	we can continue this tom,
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:22:43] <Ankur^^>	mether: install -p -m644 OldStandard.ttf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{fontdir}
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:22:46] <Ankur^^>	this way?
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:01] <mether>	yes, there is more than one file in that archive, yes?
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:17] <Ankur^^>	mether: install -p -m644 OldStandard-Italic.ttf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{fontdir}
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:23] <mether>	right
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:30] <Ankur^^>	mether: the two ttfs..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:38] <Ankur^^>	mether: is the doc section right?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:23:39] <mether>	right
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:24:06] <mether>	yep
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:24:15] <Ankur^^>	mether: oh..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:24:19] <mether>	XX should be changed to the actual number
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:24:36] <mether>	%{name}-fontconfig.conf should have the prefix in front
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:24:43] <mether>	other than that, it seems alright now
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:25:01] <mether>	i want you to make sure you understand what each and every line does before you submit the spec/srpm for review however
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:25:06] <Ankur^^>	mether: what would i write in the XX?? the prefix you taught me?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:25:11] <mether>	yes

[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:25:26] <Ankur^^>	mether: Ill practice more font packages... that would help right?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:25:32] <mether>	definitely
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:04] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay.. then Ill take that as homework..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:33] <mether>	if you have doubts, come back tom same time
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:35] <mether>	and we can continue
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:38] <Ankur^^>	mether: how do i add prefix to the %{name} place?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:47] <Ankur^^>	mether: just add a 69?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:26:50] <mether>	add the number before it
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:03] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay.. how do i know im packaging right?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:04] <mether>	its just the name of the file
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:09] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:13] <mether>	you have to build it and verify
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:17] <mether>	run rpmlint etc
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:35] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay,.. Ill do that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:27:51] <Ankur^^>	mether: thank you for the session again..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:28:27] <Ankur^^>	mether: one last question.. how do you make a log of this conversation ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:28:32] <Ankur^^>	mether: so i can refer later?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:29:11] <mether>	whats your irc client?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:29:30] <Ankur^^>	mether: Im using Konversation..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:29:44] <mether>	it should have a preference somewhere to save the logs
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:29:56] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:29:57] <mether>	ask in #fedora-kde if you are not sure
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:30:04] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay...
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:31:27] <debarshi>	mether: Should it not be 'yum localinstall griffith...' ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:31:40] <mether>	debarshi: they are just an alias
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:31:50] <mether>	yum localinstall is not needed anymore in fact
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:31:55] <debarshi>	Ah, ok.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:19] <mether>	hmm, i am not seeing my post to the list
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:22] <mether>	strange
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:23] <Ankur^^>	mether: meaning? you can just do yum install even for an rpm on the hard disk?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:29] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:41] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:45] <mether>	yum will use that and check the deps against the repo
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:32:52] <mether>	localinstall is merely an alias to install now
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:33:40] <Ankur^^>	mether: k..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:34:08] <Ankur^^>	mether: about the fedorapeople.org.. how do you login??
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:34:23] <mether>	your use fedora account name and password
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:34:40] <Ankur^^>	mether: I cant find a place to enter it on fedorapeople.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:34:51] <mether>	Ankur^^: ssh
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:10] <Ankur^^>	mether: I dont know how to use that..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:12] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Are you behind a proxy?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:25] <Ankur^^>	mether: squid for opera...
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:38] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: squid for opera
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:41] <mether>	ssh fedoraname@fedorapeople.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:52] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Hmm...
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:35:58] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: why?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:36:15] <Ankur^^>	mether: this goes in the address bar?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:36:22] <Ankur^^>	mether: or terminal?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:36:26] <mether>	Ankur^^: open a terminal and do that
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:37:22] <Ankur^^>	mether: authencity of fedorapeople.org cannot be established.. etc..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:37:44] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Do:
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:37:54] <debarshi>	ssh -v user@fedorapeople.org
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:38:02] <debarshi>	...and paste the output in some pastebin.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:38:07] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: Im logged in..
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:38:09] <kushal>	debarshi, rm -rf ~/* ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:38:21] <debarshi>	kushal: Hehehe
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:39:46] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4324">http://fpaste.org/paste/4324</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:40:00] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: Im new to this.. how do you use this?
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:40:46] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: ?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:23] <mether>	it worked
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:26] <mether>	you have logged in
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:37] <mether>	pwd
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:43] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Jump around and say: Singh is Kinng.
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:54] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: what?? lol..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:41:59] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: ?
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:42:39] <Ankur^^>	mether: /home/fedora/ankursinha
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:42:46] <mether>	yes
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:42:52] <mether>	mkdir public_html
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:43:17] <Ankur^^>	mether: done..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:43:24] <Ankur^^>	mether: what am i doing by the way?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:44:02] <Ankur^^>	mether: where is the documentation for learning this?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:44:39] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastruc ture/fedorapeople.org</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:45:30] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay.. this is required for packagers?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:45:58] <mether>	not really. it just provides a space for you to upload your packages
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:46:01] <mether>	or other content
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:46:23] <Ankur^^>	mether: and how does one use gpg signing etc?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:46:37] <Ankur^^>	mether: i made one when i isgned up for fas..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:47:01] <mether>	why do you need that now?
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:47:12] <Ankur^^>	mether: sorry.. just asking..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:47:46] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Guide/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_G uide/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys</A>
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:48:12] <Ankur^^>	mether: ill go try making packages now i guess.. thankyou for your help..
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:48:18] <mether>	np
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:48:48] <mether>	try to make sure you understand everything involved in the spec you have
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:48:48] <mether>	every line
[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:48:53] <mether>	and make sure it builds properly
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[Mon Aug 4 2008] [20:49:19] <Ankur^^>	mether: yeah i will..
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:40:39] <franciscod>	kushal: any one here? need help with a spec file..?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:40:53] <kushal>	franciscod, tell me
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:41:29] <franciscod>	kushal: Im making one for a font package.. the source is a .ttf.zip.. mether was teaching last evening..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:42:05] <kushal>	ok
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:42:13] <franciscod>	kushal: the %setup macro builds to the /usr/src/redhat location or the location of the user Im logged in as?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:42:37] <franciscod>	kushal: i mean /home/Package/rpmbuild/BUILD/  ??
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:42:56] <kushal>	it builds on the RPMBUILD root macro place
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:43:43] <franciscod>	kushal: RPMBUILD root macro.. what value does that store?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:44:03] <kushal>	franciscod, there is a default value (location)
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:44:06] <franciscod>	kushal: Im referring to this page.. <A HREF="http://rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/s1-rpm-inside-macros.html">http://rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/s1-rpm-i nside-macros.html</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:44:31] <franciscod>	kushal: is that /usr/src etc or /home/USER/rpmbuild/ etc?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:44:48] <kushal>	franciscod, please read packaging guidelines
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:45:01] <franciscod>	kushal: okay.. thank you..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [11:45:02] <kushal>	franciscod, BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release }-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:11:13] <Ankur^^>	kushal: its giving an error ... install: cannot create regular file /var/tmp/69oldstandard-fonts-1-1.fc9-ro ot-Package/usr/share/fonts/oldstandard': No such file or directory
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:11:34] <kushal>	eh
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:13:12] <Ankur^^>	kushal: heres the spec.. <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4358">http://fpaste.org/paste/4358</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:16:07] <Ankur^^>	kushal: what have done wrong?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:17:15] <kushal>	afk for now meeting
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:17:59] <Ankur^^>	kushal: dint get you..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:21:06] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: may you paste build messages ... I don't have my m/c with me ......
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:21:19] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: but may be looking at it I can suggest something.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:21:50] <chacha_chaudhry>	it fails in %install ?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:23:22] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: should i paste at fpaste?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:23:26] <chacha_chaudhry>	between kushal will be back after meeting -- afk: away from keyboard
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:23:42] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: yes
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:24:55] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4359">http://fpaste.org/paste/4359</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:25:48] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: spec is here  :: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4358">http://fpaste.org/paste/4358</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:26:33] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: Kindly learn to read the error messages.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:26:43] <debarshi>	Ankur^^: The problem is obvious.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:26:53] <chacha_chaudhry>	debarshi: you don't have fontdir
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:27:08] <Ankur^^>	debarshi: Its my first time..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:27:09] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: ^^^
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:28:04] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: is the problem with the %{fontdir} ?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:28:07] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: you should create %{fontdir} in %install
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:28:36] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: %define fontdir  %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:28:45] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: doesnt this line do that?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:28:58] <chacha_chaudhry>	no
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:29:13] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: it just defiles fondir
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:29:19] <chacha_chaudhry>	*defines
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:29:29] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: how do i make the fontdir?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:30:13] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: ive got to use mkdir... I know that.. Im having problems with the paths..
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:30:49] <chacha_chaudhry>	before copying files to a location create that directory using 'mkdir -p %{fontdir}'
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:31:18] <chacha_chaudhry>	will brb I would have liked to have my m/c now. But I am away :-(
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:31:32] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: okay.. thanks..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:32:52] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: try and paste the result. it sould come before 'install ......' in %install
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:33:26] <chacha_chaudhry>	will brb
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:36:35] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4360">http://fpaste.org/paste/4360</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:36:59] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: gives me this error.. mkdir: cannot create directory /usr/share/fonts/oldstandard': Permission denied
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:38:45] <chacha_chaudhry>	aah!
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:38:55] <chacha_chaudhry>	you have to create it in buildroot
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:39:55] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:40:01] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: is this fine?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:40:03] <chacha_chaudhry>	yes
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:40:32] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: ok.. ill try it..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:40:58] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: is buildroot always this  %{buildroot} (normally /var/tmp/something)??
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:43:26] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: no, it could be anything ...depending on where you build rpm usually e.g my buildroot is ~/rpm/BUILD And it is your choice to use macro or variable $RPM_BUID_ROOT but try to be consistent
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:45:00] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: I have made a new user for packaging as the howto advised. so my buildroot would be /home/PACKAGE/rpmbuild/BUILD ??
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:45:32] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: do i have to set it or is that what $PRM_BUILD_ROOT stands for?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:45:48] <chacha_chaudhry>	uff how would I know ?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:46:24] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: lol.. okay.. Ill read up the howtos again... this is the result i got now..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:46:35] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4361">http://fpaste.org/paste/4361</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:46:45] <Ankur^^>	is this a successful build?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:47:03] <chacha_chaudhry>	see exit 0
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:47:26] <chacha_chaudhry>	what do you infer?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:47:36] <chacha_chaudhry>	yes :-)
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:48:04] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: WOW.. my first package.. how do i test it?? mock etc right?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:48:19] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: It has two warnings.. do i need to correct them?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:48:46] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: yes .. you can try your best
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:48:55] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: to correct them
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:49:27] <chacha_chaudhry>	Ankur^^: mock or if you have koji activated then use that .... in case your bandwidth is too low
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:49:37] <chacha_chaudhry>	*koji account
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:49:46] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: okay.. I think ive figured why they are there.. I can just edit the spec and rebuild.. i dont need to remove anything etc..do i?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:50:14] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: Ill have to set up mock or koji whatever.. havent been to that part of the howto yet..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:50:23] <chacha_chaudhry>	depends ... most probably no ... just edit spec and rebuild
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:50:40] <chacha_chaudhry>	okay.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [12:51:58] <Ankur^^>	chacha_chaudhry: okay.. thank you so much for your help.. I have to go "practice" until i know what everyline in the spec file means.. mether's instructions...

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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:32:49] <franciscod>	mether: hello .. you here?
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:33:04] <mether>	franciscod: yep
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:33:22] <franciscod>	mether: I managed to make one package.. The one we were doing yesterday..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:33:41] <mether>	you build a srpm and binary rpm?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:33:47] <franciscod>	mether: had some trouble with some parts of the spec.. chacha chaudhuri and others helped out..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:33:58] <franciscod>	mether: yes.. guess so.. :)
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:34:29] <mether>	excellent
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:34:32] <franciscod>	mether: <A HREF="http://fpaste.org/paste/4361">http://fpaste.org/paste/4361</A> this is the output..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:34:41] <mether>	are you going to submit a review request?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:35:22] <franciscod>	mether: the warnings at the end arent there now.. i figured them out..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:35:23] <mether>	cool
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:35:32] <mether>	good
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:35:39] <mether>	how about you submi a review request?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:35:51] <franciscod>	mether: I think I will.. Is there a way I can check the rpm? My first so not so confident on it..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:36:13] <franciscod>	mether: the outputs looks okay?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:36:51] <mether>	yes, the output looks okay. we can fix more things in the review if necessary. go ahead and submit it
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:36:58] <mether>	do you know the process?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:37:01] <franciscod>	mether: No..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:37:24] <franciscod>	mether: Is there a wiki link for this too like the others?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:38:02] <mether>	<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Re view_Process</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:38:34] <franciscod>	mether: i came across "mock" while searching for a way to check the rpm..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:38:44] <mether>	franciscod: yes
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:38:55] <franciscod>	mether: what is it? even something called "koji"..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:38:59] <mether>	you dont have any build requirements for your package
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:39:06] <franciscod>	mether: no..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:39:17] <mether>	usually, software packages depend on other software packages
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:39:27] <mether>	and mock is a way of verifying that
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:39:51] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. so while im packaging fonts i dont need to know that..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:39:55] <mether>	koji is the Fedora build system which allows building for multiple architectures - x86, ppc etc
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:40:09] <mether>	being aware is good
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:40:42] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. Ill read the wiki for this too..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:40:51] <mether>	alright
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:42:13] <franciscod>	mether: you taught me that fedorapeople thing yesterday.. can I use that space to upload the packages spec file and SRPM?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:43:02] <mether>	yes
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:43:17] <mether>	you can scp the content to your fedorapeople page
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:43:48] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. Ill have to learn that too.. have the wiki link..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:44:00] <mether>	ok
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:45:17] <franciscod>	mether: my fedora packager group says status NONE.. i need this approved before submitting a package?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:45:45] <mether>	no, you need to submit the package first
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:46:16] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. Ill just fill the form up..
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:52:44] <franciscod>	mether: "The requested format extras-review does not exist with a content type of html."
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:52:55] <franciscod>	mether: it gives me this..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:53:01] <mether>	right
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:53:08] <mether>	go through <A HREF="http://bugzilla.redhat.com">http://bugzilla.redhat.com</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:53:34] <mether>	click on Fedora -> Package Review
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:57:22] <franciscod>	mether: Im on the main page..<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/</A> its all to do with bugs.. hasnt got a link for fedora -> Package review there..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:58:03] <mether>	yes, a review request is essentially a bug report
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:58:32] <franciscod>	mether: oh.. okay.. so .. <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cg i</A>
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:58:33] <franciscod>	?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:58:42] <mether>	yes
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [18:58:48] <mether>	select fedora -> package review
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:01:46] <franciscod>	mether: trying.. the internet isnt very quick.. page hasnt still started loading..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:02:06] <mether>	patience, patience
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:02:37] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:05:32] <franciscod>	mether: component? font
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:05:43] <franciscod>	mether: so many of them.. which one to pick?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:05:58] <mether>	the component is package review
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:06:20] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:06:29] <franciscod>	mether: version 9?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:06:38] <mether>	rawhide
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:06:50] <franciscod>	mether: okay.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:12] <franciscod>	mether: severity low?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:26] <mether>	doesnt matter
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:31] <mether>	leave it as it is
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:33] <franciscod>	mether: priority doesnt matter too?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:40] <mether>	no
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:07:57] <franciscod>	mether: flags?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:08:09] <mether>	<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi ?id=454128</A> this is a sample review request
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:08:25] <franciscod>	mether: okay..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:10:55] <franciscod>	mether: assign to: to be left at nobody@fedoraproj... ?
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:11:12] <mether>	leave all those as it is
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:12:20] <franciscod>	mether: okay.. I need to upload the spec and SRPM .. reading that now.. for the fedorapeople thing..
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[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:21:56] <Ankur^^>	mether: my nets a little stuck.. not being able to upload..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:22:28] <mether>	i cant do much about that. Do it when you can
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:22:58] <Ankur^^>	mether: I will.. is there a command line way of uploading? I was trying the gnome nautilus way currently.
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:23:24] <mether>	scp
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:24:15] <Ankur^^>	mether: another wiki page to read i guess?
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:24:24] <mether>	man scp
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:24:34] <Ankur^^>	mether: okay..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:25:54] <Ankur^^>	mether: I got to go now.. Ill do it as soon as i can.. And will try packaging more fonts as well.. Thanks for the help.. Ill ask you if i come across any doubts..
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:26:04] <mether>	alright
[Tue Aug 5 2008] [19:26:17] <Ankur^^>	mether: thank you..