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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2009-01-26
Fedora 11 Alpha Status
- Refreshing freeze tag
- two open issues:
- nash mounting by label/uuid bug
- ppc not working
- gpg signing is a bit up in the air right
- we need bigger bit sigs to comply with the sha-256 mandate which will require some buildsystem updates
- Alpha will not be signed
Fedora 11 Alpha Refresh
- we're considering refreshing the alpha tag
- koji clone-tag action to bring f11-alpha up to par with dist-f11 late tonight
- Tuesday's rawhide == F11 alpha
IRC Transcript
| f13 | ping: jwb rdieter warren wwoods lmacken jeremy notting poelcat spot | 10:03 |
|---|---|---|
| * jwb is here | 10:03 | |
| * spot is hera | 10:03 | |
| * poelcat here | 10:03 | |
| * notting is here | 10:03 | |
| rdieter | yo | 10:03 |
| * warren here | 10:03 | |
| f13 | wow! | 10:04 |
| warren | ? | 10:05 |
| jwb | lots of people here | 10:06 |
| f13 | and fast responses | 10:06 |
| f13 | so we're just missing jeremy and wwoods | 10:06 |
| f13 | kind of important to have will for the next part | 10:07 |
| warren | we need will power? | 10:07 |
| * lmacken is here | 10:08 | |
| f13 | sending sms | 10:09 |
| wwoods | boink | 10:11 |
| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Fedora 11 Alpha | 10:11 | |
| wwoods | sorry | 10:11 |
| f13 | Alright, alpha status. | 10:11 |
| wwoods | writing status reports and junk | 10:11 |
| f13 | Things were pretty OK, minus the two big ticket items, the nash mounting by label/uuid bug, and ppc being DOA | 10:12 |
| f13 | since things were so OK, we talked about a refresh of the freeze tag early this week | 10:12 |
| f13 | (provided rawhide stayed sane) | 10:12 |
| f13 | thus far, rawhide is pretty sane | 10:12 |
| wwoods | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=480842 | 10:12 |
| buggbot | Bug 480842: high, low, ---, dwmw2@infradead.org, CLOSED RAWHIDE, F11 Rawhide kernel fails to boot on ppc - /vmlinuz: Not a valid ELF image | 10:12 |
| f13 | and we may have actually fixed ppc | 10:12 |
| wwoods | and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480667 | 10:13 |
| buggbot | Bug 480667: medium, low, ---, pjones@redhat.com, NEW, nash unable to find dm devs by uuid or label causing boot to fail | 10:13 |
| f13 | there were 2 problems with ppc, ppc64 had a bad elf image, and ppc32 had non-working squashfs-utils | 10:13 |
| f13 | jwb got the ppc64 issue squared away, and kylem fixed squashfs for us just today | 10:13 |
| f13 | I've got a test ppc32 tree that jwb and I are going to throw some machines at to see if it's working, tomorrow's rawhide shoudl be an even better test | 10:13 |
| wwoods | nice | 10:16 |
| wwoods | any progress on why ppc kernel builds take for-effing-ever? | 10:16 |
| f13 | not sure. | 10:16 |
| f13 | THere is one more bug that has a patch attached to it, and that's the bitmap fonts bug | 10:16 |
| f13 | we should probably poke ajax today and see if we can get a build out for it | 10:16 |
| jwb | wwoods, i did som | 10:17 |
| jwb | wwoods, the answer is "rpm debuginfo sucks" | 10:17 |
| jwb | the actual build time is on par with most of the other arches | 10:17 |
| notting | f13: are we rebasing or tagging? | 10:18 |
| f13 | notting: will get to that, that's the second agenda item | 10:18 |
| f13 | There is one more thing of note for alpha status. It won't be gpg signed. | 10:19 |
| f13 | gpg signing is a bit up in the air right now, we need bigger bit sigs to comply with the sha-256 mandate, and that's goign to require some buildsystem updates | 10:19 |
| warren | f13: ajax might not be back from AU | 10:19 |
| f13 | also, I'd like a chance to get sigul running so that we coudl explore reducing our gpg key set | 10:19 |
| f13 | F10 alpha wasn't gpg signed either, so there is some precidence here. | 10:20 |
| jwb | raise your hand if you care | 10:20 |
| wwoods | yeah... nope | 10:20 |
| f13 | ok, anything else on current status before we go and change that status with our next topic? | 10:21 |
| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Alpha refresh | 10:23 | |
| f13 | as I mentioned before, since we're in a good spot, we're considering refreshing the alpha tag | 10:23 |
| f13 | essentially I'd do another koji clone-tag action to bring f11-alpha up to par with dist-f11 late tonight so that Tuesday's rawhide == F11 alpha | 10:24 |
| f13 | and we'd go from there to make the bits to put on the mirrors | 10:24 |
| f13 | in theory we coudl be all wrapped up by late Wed, plenty of time for mirrors to sync | 10:24 |
| warren | then we all retest that to be sure it installs and boots? | 10:24 |
| notting | do we have fallback trees in case it goes *bang*? | 10:24 |
| warren | i'm not against this, just a lot of unknown variables | 10:24 |
| f13 | warren: yes, we'd re-test everything, which we can get through pretty quickly now | 10:25 |
| * stickster adds note to Alpha release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes#No_GPG_signatures | 10:25 | |
| f13 | notting: yes, we have a mash of the old f11-alpha tag as of last week. | 10:25 |
| dgilmore | wwoods: FWIW sparc kernel builds take longer | 10:25 |
| dgilmore | wwoods: there being build -j16 since that the max fedora will use. most of the time is in debuginfo land | 10:26 |
| f13 | notting: it may be a better idea to create f11-alpha-2 and use /that/ for the refresh | 10:27 |
| f13 | notting: giving us f11-alpha to fall back to in case somethign does go bang. | 10:27 |
| dgilmore | f13: :) sounds sane | 10:27 |
| f13 | in fact, that's what I'll do | 10:27 |
| jwb | i like that | 10:27 |
| notting | f13: i agree, although i may be being paranoid | 10:28 |
| f13 | no, I am too | 10:28 |
| wwoods | I have to admit that my testing has all been rawhide-targeted anyway, so I don't anticipate big surprises | 10:28 |
| wwoods | but, yeah, better safe than sorry | 10:28 |
| jwb | did most of the mysql deps get fixed? | 10:29 |
| f13 | Somebody could drop a poop-bomb on us today | 10:29 |
| f13 | jwb: most of it, looks like | 10:29 |
| jwb | like gcc 4.4? | 10:29 |
| wwoods | pretty sure we told the right people to hold off on gcc 4.4 until next week(ish) | 10:29 |
| jwb | aawww | 10:30 |
| jwb | no fun | 10:30 |
| f13 | heh | 10:33 |
| f13 | jwb: so, if ppc(32) actually looks good today/tomorrow, should we have a ppc alpha? | 10:33 |
| jwb | probably, but why did you specify 32? | 10:33 |
| f13 | ppc32 was the last problem we had, the squashfs | 10:34 |
| jwb | well, that was ppc* | 10:34 |
| jwb | but yeah | 10:34 |
| jwb | i'll be testing the ppc compose on a ppc64 machine, if that clarifies anything | 10:35 |
| f13 | ok | 10:37 |
| f13 | So then the plan is to create f11-alpha-2 and populate it from dist-f11, at the rawhide compose time tonight (0600 UTC). We'll try to use that as our alpha release, falling back to f11-alpha if necessary | 10:38 |
| f13 | if we fall back, we can still add the relevant ppc fixes to the tag | 10:38 |
| jwb | aye | 10:38 |
| f13 | Today I'm going to be testing the ppc item, as well as doing full x86 composes from today's rawhide to test locally | 10:39 |
| f13 | I'm also going to do a compsoe in PHX from today's rawhide to prime the mirrors and the magic stage location | 10:40 |
| f13 | Anything else on the refresh topic> | 10:41 |
| f13 | ? | 10:41 |
| warren | f13: will you fix the fedora-release package before then? | 10:41 |
| warren | f13: all the broken symlinks | 10:41 |
| f13 | warren: no, as we don't have a key yet to properly point them to | 10:42 |
| warren | oh | 10:43 |
| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora rel-eng - Open Floor | 10:45 | |
| f13 | ok, open floor for any other topics | 10:45 |
| f13 | alright lets wrap it up and get to work! Thanks all! | 10:52 |
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