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Attendees

  • Jesse Keating (f13)
  • James Laska (jlaska)
  • Adam Williamson (adamw)
  • Will Woods (wwoods)
  • Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking_ice)

Previous meeting follow-up

Follow-up from last meeting http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090311.log.html

  • [jlaska&adamw] mediawiki semantic* packaging
  • [adamw] - intel test day was a success, we're hoping to have an intel follow up later before f11's release, to test fixes for the issues identified at the first event
  • [jlaska] - DeviceKit test day was successful in identifying several key bugs, but the event did not have the level of participation we hoped for.

F-11-Beta - who/what/when/where/why?

  • Beta is scheduled for availability 03/24, which means it needs to begin pushing to mirrors on 03/20 (Fri)
  • A lot of concern around whether we have enough information to say that F-11-Beta is generally installable
    • f13 noted that if I don't get a golden tree in the form of tomorrow's rawhide, I think we slip.
    • f13 and jlaska expressed concern about the bugs that haven't yet been filed (due to blocker issues)
  • jlaska asked what information do you need to make a slip vs no slip recommendation?
    • f13 replied a what works, vs what doesn't work, vs what hasn't been tested
    • adamw offered assistance from the BugZappers team (iarly) in reviewing the 42 NEW bugs to identify which issues should be noted on the F11Beta blocker bug list

Upcoming QA events

Open discussion

  • viking_ice noted the new SysRq documentation page - QA/Sysrq
  • viking_ice noted there is a enhancement request open in fedora-infrastructure (see https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1245) to create/host some type of RSS aggregator for Fedora announcements.
  • viking_ice asked whether maintainers/developers should introduce themselves when replying on fedora-test-list@
    • adamw cautioned that this might be a difficult task (akin to herding cats)

Action items

  • [jlaska+adamw] mediawiki semantic update (packaging and hosting)
  • [adamw] schedule radeon test day
  • [adamw] review OPEN installer bugs and escalate appropriate issues to F11Beta blocker list
  • [jlaska] email fedora-test-list@ with call for testing of rawhide installs
    • will review test results at end of day Thursday for a slip decision
  • [jlaska] build XFCE live images and request fedorapeople hosting from jeremy
  • [jlaska] find Beta Release notes wiki page? (thanks to frields ... Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes)

Next QA meeting

No time was left to discuss a new time for next weeks meeting. We will continue with 17:00 UTC unless otherwise noted on fedora-test-list.

The next meeting will be held on 2009-03-25 17:00 UTC (1pm EDT).

IRC Transcript

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jlaska | Let's wait a few for folks to adjust to the changed meeting time Mar 18 12:01
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jlaska | adamw: f13: wwoods (not expected today): viking_ice Mar 18 12:02
viking_ice | * Mar 18 12:02
jlaska | anyone I missed, please raise your hands :) Mar 18 12:02
jlaska | viking_ice: hello Mar 18 12:03
* | f13 Mar 18 12:03
viking_ice | greetings Mar 18 12:03
jlaska | f13: welcome Mar 18 12:03
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adamw | yo Mar 18 12:06
jlaska | heyo! Mar 18 12:06
adamw | sorry, i am involved in a vigorous and enthusiastic discussion in -devel Mar 18 12:06
adamw | ;) Mar 18 12:06
jlaska | okay, I think we have critical mass Mar 18 12:06
jlaska | no worries :) Mar 18 12:06
jlaska | my goal is to keep this under 1 hour today ... so let's git'er done Mar 18 12:07
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jlaska | the best I can discern from last weeks minutes is the semantic open it Mar 18 12:07
jlaska | em Mar 18 12:07
jlaska | [jlaska&adamw] mediawiki semantic* packaging Mar 18 12:07
* | wwoods kinda here but will be leaving in a bit Mar 18 12:07
jlaska | wwoods: welcome! Mar 18 12:08
jlaska | made some good progress on the packaging, I decided not to bug adamw with that just yet since things were going fairly well Mar 18 12:08
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jlaska | one package reviewed and build ... another inprogress Mar 18 12:08
jlaska | * mediawiki-semantic http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7968 Mar 18 12:08
jlaska | * mediawiki-semantic-forms package review bug#490171 Mar 18 12:08
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=490171 medium, medium, ---, nobody, NEW, Review Request: mediawiki-semantic-forms - An extension to MediaWiki that adds support for web-based forms Mar 18 12:08
adamw | yes, I have been dynamically and enthusiastically leaving it to jlaska Mar 18 12:08
adamw | and expect full credit for this work =) Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | stickster and tibbs|h - thanks for guidance on the licensing for mediawiki-semantic-forms Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | adamw: hey, blame goes with the credit! :D Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | as far as next steps ... Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | * next steps to setup & configure a test instance and incorporate live data Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | I sent a request out ot fedora-infrastructure to see if I could get a dump of live wiki data for testing these extensions Mar 18 12:09
jlaska | this is definitely an area I could use assistance on Mar 18 12:10
jlaska | it's not hard to set this thing up at all ... just going to be important on how we document best practices etc... Mar 18 12:10
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jlaska | if anyone is interested in helping setup and play with mediawiki + semantic ... just let me know, I could use some extra eyes here Mar 18 12:11
jlaska | that's all I coudl pick out from last week's action items ... what did I miss? Mar 18 12:11
adamw | as i mentioned to you privately - poke fcami, as he requested it in the first place :) Mar 18 12:12
adamw | i'd like to play with it for test day results, but for that it needs to be up publicly somewhere really Mar 18 12:12
jlaska | indeed ... I'd like us to get really familiar with how to use this thing Mar 18 12:12
jlaska | once it's packaged, I can ask infrastructure for hosting and we can start playing around in a demo instance Mar 18 12:13
adamw | sure, i can come on board with playing about at that point. Mar 18 12:13
jlaska | great, that will be a big help Mar 18 12:13
jlaska | the guidance we have from the laptop.org folks is make sure we outline some best practices/policy before we unleash this Mar 18 12:14
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jlaska | ACTION: let's do another check-in next week on packaging, and hopefully status on a hosted demo site Mar 18 12:14
jlaska | any other topics from last week folks would like to raise status on? Mar 18 12:14
adamw | er, let me take a look at the summary for a sec Mar 18 12:15
jlaska | ... sure Mar 18 12:15
adamw | graphics test days - intel was held and successful Mar 18 12:15
adamw | still haven't organized radeon yet Mar 18 12:15
adamw | i'll send out a poke to the devs on that Mar 18 12:15
adamw | we're hoping to have an intel follow up later before f11's release, to test fixes for the issues identified at the first event Mar 18 12:16
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jlaska | ACTION: schedule radeon test day [adamw] Mar 18 12:16
jlaska | ^---- for my grepping sanity Mar 18 12:16
jlaska | adamw: nice job on the intel test day ... seems like you were very busy Mar 18 12:17
jlaska | lots of results (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-12) and data still coming in on the mailing list Mar 18 12:17
jlaska | yesterday was also the DeviceKit test day (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-17) Mar 18 12:18
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jlaska | we didn't get quite the turn out that Intel testing gathered Mar 18 12:18
jlaska | while a lot of the code for the DeviceKit feature is complete ... there are still interaction and UI quirks to iron out Mar 18 12:19
jlaska | so if folks have the time ... Live USB key + DeviceKit testing (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:DeviceKit_Test_Cases) is the way to go Mar 18 12:20
jlaska | any other topics from last week? Mar 18 12:20
jlaska | okay ... on to F-11-Beta ... Mar 18 12:21
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jlaska | wwoods provided a bullet list of discussion points ... which I'll summarize as the who/what/when/where/why's of the F-11-Beta Mar 18 12:22
jlaska | > F-11 Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule Mar 18 12:22
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jlaska | f13: do you have any updates from release engineering with respect to the Beta? Mar 18 12:23
f13 | nothing good to say. Mar 18 12:23
f13 | anaconda still not ready. Mar 18 12:23
adamw | refer to the recent vigorous and enthusiastic discussion in -devel :) Mar 18 12:23
jlaska | from a schedule perspective, do you anticipate any changes there? Mar 18 12:24
f13 | if I don't get a golden tree in the form of tomorrow's rawhide, I think we slip. Mar 18 12:24
f13 | as it is we're damn close to the wire. Mar 18 12:24
jlaska | indeed ... Beta is scheduled to hit the mirrors on 03/24 ? Mar 18 12:25
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f13 | no, that's when its supposed to GA Mar 18 12:26
f13 | to hit that date, we have to be available to mirrors the 20th or the 21st Mar 18 12:26
jlaska | so a few days prior for the mirrors? Mar 18 12:26
jlaska | so we have < 2 days to compose then test a beta candidate? Mar 18 12:26
f13 | that is correct sir. Mar 18 12:27
jlaska | the current F11Beta blocker list isn't too bad ... but I think it's the what's lurking behind door#2 that concerns you? Mar 18 12:27
f13 | once again we're to the point of "either the one we finally get to make is right, or we slip" Mar 18 12:27
jlaska | F11Beta blockers - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=476774&hide_resolved=1 Mar 18 12:27
f13 | jlaska: I think a /lot/ of the storage bugs just aren't filed and/or listed in F11Beta Mar 18 12:28
jlaska | what information do you need to make a slip vs no slip recommendation? Mar 18 12:28
f13 | a real good idea of what storage bugs exist Mar 18 12:28
f13 | a what works, vs what doesn't work, vs what hasn't been tested Mar 18 12:29
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jlaska | so that leads us to the test results wiki page created by wwoods https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results Mar 18 12:29
f13 | I'm making some pre-beta candidate images right now in phx that has today's rawhide + newer anaconda and python-pyblock Mar 18 12:29
f13 | jlaska: well the installer guys know some of this, but they aren't sharing with bugzilla. Mar 18 12:30
adamw | so basically you need us/bugzappers to be looking through anaconda storage bugs and trying to get appropriate ones on the blocker list? Mar 18 12:30
jlaska | adamw: is that possible? I'd be curious what total number of untriaged isntallation bugs we have post F11-Alpha Mar 18 12:31
f13 | adamw: yes, but again I think a lot of the known issues just aren't filed as bugs Mar 18 12:31
jlaska | I suspect we had a few test blockers that prevent us from hitting more interesting installer bugs Mar 18 12:31
adamw | jlaska: i'll see if anyone in Bugzappers would be willing to look at that Mar 18 12:31
adamw | jlaska: i can give you a number on untriaged installation bugs, btw, give me a few seconds Mar 18 12:31
jlaska | adamw: thank you Mar 18 12:32
f13 | and part of that problem has been new bugs introduced with changes to fix old bugs preventing further install testing. Mar 18 12:32
adamw | jlaska: what date did alpha come out, off the top of your head? Mar 18 12:32
jlaska | around 2009-02-01 Mar 18 12:32
jlaska | timestamp = 1233543911.73 Mar 18 12:32
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jlaska | f13: are we at the point where we have enough confidence that we can reach out for beta install testers to help flesh out https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results Mar 18 12:33
adamw | ok - there are 42 bugs in NEW status filed on any anaconda component in rawhide since 2009-02-01 Mar 18 12:33
adamw | this is the list: Mar 18 12:33
adamw | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&component=anaconda&component=anaconda-help&component=anaconda-images&component=anaconda-yum-plugins&version=rawhide&bug_status=NEW&chfieldfrom=2009-02-01&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug%20creation] Mar 18 12:33
buggbot | <http://tinyurl.com/dgtlnk> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) Mar 18 12:33
f13 | jlaska: yes, although we may have to feed them updates.img files Mar 18 12:34
adamw | NEW status means it's untriaged (and unlikely to have been touched by bugzappers or maintainers) Mar 18 12:34
f13 | jlaska: we should have had them banging away at the results page from the day of freeze Mar 18 12:34
jlaska | f13: certainly earlier the better ... not sure how much progress we would have made given some key test blockers on storage Mar 18 12:35
adamw | f13: so it would be useful to you for qa/bugzappers to go through that list and get appropriate ones onto the blocker list? if so i'll try and get that done. Mar 18 12:35
f13 | jlaska: we would have at least known where the bugs were and had them recorded in bugzilla. Mar 18 12:35
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jlaska | f13: possibly ... but that's what test blockers are ... we don't konw what lurks behind them Mar 18 12:35
f13 | adamw: sure, it'll give us something to review for block/noblock. Mar 18 12:35
f13 | jlaska: at this point, we don't even know what the test blockers /are/ Mar 18 12:35
jlaska | f13: but I agree knowing more at this point would arm us well for a beta recommendation Mar 18 12:35
jlaska | okay, I'll take an action item to put out a request for testing assistance Mar 18 12:36
jlaska | ACTION: [jlaska] email f-t-list with request for pre-beta test feedback in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results Mar 18 12:37
f13 | and a note somewhere that this page needs to be available at or before the freeze and we need to start getting results recorded at or before the freeze. Mar 18 12:37
jlaska | f13: can you get me a link or info on the updates.img (or if you can post directly to that wiki page)? Mar 18 12:37
f13 | I don't know if there is one being passed around yet today Mar 18 12:37
jlaska | f13: ah okay, I may have misunderstood a previous comment Mar 18 12:38
jlaska | I'm not aware of one for today either Mar 18 12:38
f13 | well, I saw mention of some but I think that's for further develoipment on storage branch not necessarily fixing critical beta bugs. Mar 18 12:38
jlaska | we still have an open issue that I don't think we have sufficient time to fill out the matrix Mar 18 12:39
jlaska | so as is usually the case, we may need ot make a decision with what info we have available Mar 18 12:39
jlaska | f13: if there are some high-level use cases related to installation that would give you a better sense for this release, we might choose to narrow the request for testing around those areas? Mar 18 12:40
jlaska | which reminds me ... anyone have the link for the Beta release notes so we can begin to drop content there? Mar 18 12:40
f13 | I don't know off hand, what is our "critical" path for beta? Mar 18 12:40
f13 | autopart using existing Linux, autopart using free space, autopart using entire disk, all of those + encryption Mar 18 12:41
f13 | various levels of custom partitioning Mar 18 12:41
f13 | clearing off existing LVM sets Mar 18 12:41
jlaska | everything from the part type screen was my initial focus for the storage test day Mar 18 12:41
jlaska | yeah you're list above is what I had in mind as well Mar 18 12:42
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jlaska | f13: okay, I'll see if we need to adjust the test results wiki accordingly and request focus on those areas Mar 18 12:42
jlaska | when should we review the results ... Friday? Mar 18 12:42
f13 | that's too late Mar 18 12:43
f13 | either thursday's rawhide (that's tomorrow) is good enough for beta, or we slip. Mar 18 12:43
jlaska | so end of day tomorrow? Mar 18 12:43
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f13 | jlaska: end of day, or first critical breakage, whichever comes first Mar 18 12:44
jlaska | sounds good ... we'll be in touch :D Mar 18 12:44
jlaska | okay ... any other comments on the Beta ? Mar 18 12:44
jlaska | adamw: do you think we can have the OPEN issues scrubbed in time for tomorrow by end of day? Mar 18 12:45
jlaska | OPEN == (NEW anaconda bugs) Mar 18 12:45
f13 | wait a sec, is this meeting an hour early today? Mar 18 12:45
jlaska | yes Mar 18 12:46
f13 | ok, no wonder my alarm didn't go off Mar 18 12:46
jlaska | f13: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00965.html Mar 18 12:46
f13 | I haven't gotten to email yet Mar 18 12:46
jlaska | no worries Mar 18 12:46
adamw | jlaska: i've sent requests to the irc chan and mailing list Mar 18 12:46
jlaska | adamw: thanks ... we'll see where we are tomorrow then Mar 18 12:46
adamw | jlaska: iarly is going to help out now, i will try and do some myself later too Mar 18 12:46
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jlaska | My google fu is failing to find a Beta release notes wiki page ... anyone know if that exists yet? Mar 18 12:47
jlaska | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Beta/ReleaseNotes is empty Mar 18 12:47
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jlaska | ... I'll find out an include in the minutes Mar 18 12:47
jlaska | ... okay rounding 3rd base </bad_sports_analogy> ... Mar 18 12:48
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jlaska | adamw has 2 test days upcoming ... Mar 18 12:48
jlaska | tomorrow > XFCE Test Day [1] Mar 18 12:48
adamw | xfce is pretty much planned except i need to finish off the test cases. i'll get that done today Mar 18 12:49
jlaska | and the following thursday > Nouveau Test Day [2] Mar 18 12:49
adamw | should've been promoted yesterday but i didn't have time, la la. Mar 18 12:49
* | nirik was finally able to make xfce live isos and test last night. Hurray. Mar 18 12:49
jlaska | adamw: you've got the mic ... Mar 18 12:49
adamw | nirik: ooh. could if we could have those available for the test day it'd be awesome Mar 18 12:49
nirik | yeah, I can see about uploading somewhere. Mar 18 12:49
viking_ice | spins ready for test day? Mar 18 12:50
adamw | nouveau is mostly ready too, still need to have the rendercheck packaging done (i'll bug ben about that), but we could go ahead without it. a live CD would be really great for that also. Mar 18 12:50
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jlaska | adamw: we can do the livecd for nouveau, I can build images and request hosting from jeremy (who has more quota) Mar 18 12:50
viking_ice | rule of thumb hw test == we need to hva livecd Mar 18 12:50
viking_ice | ready Mar 18 12:50
jlaska | viking_ice: agreed, the live images have been *very* handy for those test days Mar 18 12:50
adamw | nirik: jeremy has gigantic quota, we've just been sticking live CDs in his space for now. we could remove older ones after a while and update the link on the test day pages to point to the nwer ones. Mar 18 12:51
viking_ice | there were atleast 2 on the intel test day Mar 18 12:51
viking_ice | that needed live ( willing to test not willing to break box ) Mar 18 12:51
nirik | adamw: cool. If someone could make some and stick them up there that would be great. Mar 18 12:51
jlaska | nirik: you need someone to build the images for XFCE? Mar 18 12:52
nirik | I did make some minor ks changes last night. Requested them for the beta... so if you could, spin them from git head Mar 18 12:52
nirik | jlaska: well, I can build them here, but not sure how long upload will take. ;) If someone is closer net wise and has good upload that might be faster. Mar 18 12:52
f13 | I need to drop off so that I can get ready for my next meeting. Mar 18 12:53
adamw | jlaska: if you could help me out there it'd be awesome, i still haven't got used to the generator and i'm looking to have a busy rest of today with the xfce test cases and installer triaging stuff. plus i've got a haircut this afternoon :) Mar 18 12:53
jlaska | nirik: if you can send me which spin-kickstarts/ file are you using I can ask if jeremy can post them for us? Mar 18 12:53
jlaska | f13: roger, see you soon Mar 18 12:53
jlaska | adamw: you do need a haircut! Mar 18 12:53
jlaska | :) Mar 18 12:53
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adamw | jlaska: hmm, when you saw me i'd had one quite recently :P Mar 18 12:53
jlaska | jk ;) Mar 18 12:53
nirik | jlaska: sure, basically the xfce one from git head of spins-kickstarts. Mar 18 12:54
jlaska | okay Mar 18 12:54
jlaska | I'll talk to jeremy and se if we can have something posted for tomorrow Mar 18 12:54
jlaska | unless anyone else wants to grab that one? Mar 18 12:54
nirik | http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob;f=fedora-livecd-xfce.ks;h=b97e245b94843596c1026d265a181e30e0dfe784;hb=9ec863778654f5462ab33300181ec1a9348d58ef Mar 18 12:54
nirik | man, thats ugly. Mar 18 12:54
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jlaska | nirik: no worries, I have the link Mar 18 12:54
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jlaska | okay folks ... I need to cut out shortly, and we're approaching out 1hr limit Mar 18 12:55
--- | jlaska has changed the topic to: Fedora QA meeting | Open Discussion Mar 18 12:55
jlaska | are there any topics folks would like to discuss before we close out? Mar 18 12:56
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nirik | just FYI, I should be around for Xfce tomorrow, but I am on MDT, so will not be in until 9am (11am EDT). Mar 18 12:57
jlaska | nirik: okay, thanks for update Mar 18 12:57
viking_ice | wp instance for announcements stuck in infrastructure Mar 18 12:58
jlaska | viking_ice: do you have a link to the ticket? Mar 18 12:58
viking_ice | 12456 Mar 18 12:59
viking_ice | 1245 Mar 18 12:59
viking_ice | it's 1245 Mar 18 12:59
viking_ice | perhaps maintainers/developers should introduce them self as such when reply on the test list Mar 18 12:59
jlaska | https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1245 Mar 18 13:00
viking_ice | yup Mar 18 13:00
adamw | viking_ice: that'd be nice but probably unlikely to be possible :\ trying to get maintainers to do anything like that is like herding cats... Mar 18 13:00
viking_ice | sandeen: has been getting hard time getting testers to do what they need to do for him to diagnose the problem Mar 18 13:01
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viking_ice | Well hey smug me maintain you do this ok and file a report with output Mar 18 13:01
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jlaska | viking_ice: hrmm, interesting idea ... I'm going to put this down as a discussion point Mar 18 13:02
viking_ice | well a whole sysrq wiki page got written Mar 18 13:02
jlaska | yeah that was good stuff! Mar 18 13:02
viking_ice | jlaska: there is also an rfe that wont get work on until the webpage is setup Mar 18 13:02
viking_ice | for a notifier-applet in gnome Mar 18 13:03
jlaska | viking_ice: can you post the link for the minutes? Mar 18 13:03
viking_ice | which link ? Mar 18 13:03
jlaska | SysRq Mar 18 13:03
jlaska | I've got to drop off folks, thanks for the meeting Mar 18 13:03
jlaska | minutes to follow on the list, let's continue discussion in #fedora-qa and on fedora-test-list@redhat.com Mar 18 13:03
viking_ice | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Sysrq Mar 18 13:04
jlaska | viking_ice: thanks! Mar 18 13:04
viking_ice | well christo moved it there Mar 18 13:04
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