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| themayor | hey everybody | 22:02 |
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| themayor | its meeting time | 22:02 |
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| themayor | fedora marketing meeting | 22:03 |
| themayor | roll call | 22:03 |
| themayor | .fas jack | 22:03 |
| zodbot | themayor: megerdin 'Jacki' <megerdin@yahoo.com> - gregj1121 'Greg Jackson' <scoutsmail@comcast.net> - nb2000180 'IceRain' <jack_lovely@126.com> - kenjackson 'Ken Jackson' <linux@kenjackson.us> - jackey 'Jackey Cai' <jackey_cxc@yahoo.com.cn> - jacky 'jacky woo' <rocketshouston@qq.com> - sailorjacko 'sailor jacko' <jlanphear@compucollege.nf.net> - mljacks 'Mickey Jackson' <mljacks@q.com> - whiskey 'Jack Daniels' (11 more messages) | 22:03 |
| moixs | .fas moixs | 22:03 |
| themayor | whoops | 22:03 |
| zodbot | moixs: moixs <steven.moix@axianet.ch> | 22:03 |
| themayor | hmm, i dont show up there | 22:03 |
| moixs | And that's all?! :D | 22:03 |
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| themayor | i guess so | 22:04 |
| moixs | let's start then? | 22:07 |
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| themayor | yeah | 22:08 |
| themayor | okay | 22:08 |
| themayor | so im just gonna give my quick agenda for the next week | 22:08 |
| themayor | couple of things | 22:09 |
| themayor | first | 22:11 |
| themayor | i was in westford | 22:11 |
| themayor | i did some audio for podcasts | 22:11 |
| themayor | so im working on that | 22:11 |
| themayor | i also have a couple more to do now | 22:11 |
| themayor | with jesse and lennart | 22:11 |
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| themayor | theres thaty | 22:12 |
| themayor | and then theres the press kit which i promised to mo and the art team but i want us to take a look at first | 22:12 |
| themayor | but i cant send it yet, im still working on it | 22:12 |
| moixs | ok, throw it on the mailinglist asap then :) | 22:13 |
| themayor | and then finishing tightening up the rest of the features stuff | 22:13 |
| themayor | yeah i will | 22:13 |
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| moixs | stickster: while we talk about podcasts, did you contact Leo Laporte for one, as suggested by someone on the ambassador list? | 22:13 |
| * stickster is here late, sorry | 22:13 | |
| themayor | what do you mean? | 22:14 |
| themayor | like asking him to do a podcast with us? | 22:14 |
| moixs | yes | 22:14 |
| themayor | i can ask him, if we want, i know the guy | 22:14 |
| moixs | He has an open source podcast | 22:14 |
| themayor | yeah i will email him as soon as the meeting is over | 22:14 |
| moixs | look with stickster, he replied on the ambassador ML :p | 22:15 |
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| moixs | And this guy has a huge audience :) | 22:15 |
| themayor | stickster: are you down for doing it? | 22:15 |
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| * stickster looking for that email | 22:16 | |
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| stickster | I'm up for doing interviews in general, so sure! | 22:16 |
| themayor | okay i will email leo and set it up | 22:16 |
| stickster | moixs: Where is this post on the ambassadors list? I can't find it | 22:16 |
| * stickster sees WAY too much email to remember all of them | 22:17 | |
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| moixs | He does podcasts for a living, so he might be quite busy | 22:17 |
| stickster | I'm already over 2000 for today only | 22:17 |
| moixs | stickster: no idea, I just remember someone proposing this a while ago | 22:17 |
| themayor | yeah the email is getting to be a problem in general | 22:18 |
| themayor | stickster: dont worry, im quite confident we can get a slot | 22:18 |
| moixs | I just unsubscribed from some ML this week, too much, I wasn't reading them anyway | 22:19 |
| moixs | so, maybe next point :D | 22:19 |
| themayor | yeah | 22:19 |
| themayor | also | 22:19 |
| themayor | i just want to say | 22:20 |
| themayor | we should aim to have anything and everything done as much as possible, as close to complete for next week | 22:20 |
| themayor | because if anything needs to go to translation or art, etc | 22:20 |
| herlo | I'm working on the sugar desktop views | 22:21 |
| themayor | awesome | 22:21 |
| moixs | The screenshot task is almost done yes, herlo is creating some sugar ones | 22:21 |
| themayor | moixs: awesome | 22:21 |
| moixs | And i need someone with a working fingerprint reader | 22:21 |
| themayor | i dont have one | 22:21 |
| moixs | to take a screenshot about this feature | 22:21 |
| moixs | mine isn't supported :p | 22:21 |
| themayor | send a request to fedora-list and offer some free schwag or something in return | 22:21 |
| themayor | moixs: is it on a laptop? | 22:22 |
| moixs | themayor: yes, but it's too recent..no drivers for it yet | 22:22 |
| themayor | ah, what laptop | 22:22 |
| moixs | Btw, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour and you see the free spot | 22:22 |
| moixs | Lenovo x301 | 22:22 |
| themayor | nice machine | 22:22 |
| moixs | This fingerprint reader is common to al lrevent lenovo models :/ | 22:23 |
| moixs | recent | 22:23 |
| moixs | So, does someone have a fingerprint reader here? :D | 22:23 |
| herlo | moixs: I could probalby do the fingerprint reader stuff too | 22:23 |
| herlo | moixs: however, I'm not sure what's changed compared to thinkfinger | 22:23 |
| moixs | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Fingerprint | 22:24 |
| herlo | moixs: aha, was just about to ask | 22:24 |
| moixs | a screenshot with the gui open will do it | 22:24 |
| themayor | yeah a significant maount | 22:24 |
| herlo | oh, I can do that | 22:25 |
| moixs | Are you happy with the other screens? | 22:25 |
| moixs | I tried to show the important features, and "important" applications | 22:25 |
| moixs | or catchy ones | 22:26 |
| herlo | I assume you are asking themayor | 22:26 |
| moixs | everyone :) | 22:26 |
| themayor | yes its cool | 22:26 |
| ianweller | oh is this a marketing meeting? | 22:26 |
| moixs | yes :D | 22:26 |
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| * ianweller is here ;) | 22:27 | |
| themayor | lol | 22:27 |
| themayor | okay great next topic | 22:27 |
| themayor | stickster had a few questions which i think are valid and we need to address | 22:27 |
| themayor | first, related to the print and podcast interviews | 22:28 |
| themayor | i am going to post the podcasts on my blog | 22:28 |
| themayor | and put up the sources on the marketing page | 22:29 |
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| themayor | does that sound okay to everyone? | 22:29 |
| stickster | All at once? In what order? What's in them? | 22:29 |
| themayor | no one at a time | 22:29 |
| stickster | What are they about? | 22:29 |
| themayor | once a week until release | 22:29 |
| themayor | so for the most part they are about features | 22:29 |
| themayor | new stuff in fedora | 22:29 |
| themayor | and also all of them ask the question, are you proud of our achievement and what do you think the future holds | 22:30 |
| moixs | It would be great to have them all at release time, so we can link to them in the news | 22:30 |
| stickster | themayor: I want details. | 22:30 |
| themayor | yes i want them all to be out by release time | 22:30 |
| herlo | are they going on Fedora TV? | 22:30 |
| stickster | What are the subjects for each podcast? | 22:30 |
| themayor | the one with spot is about fedora in general, where we've come from, where we are going | 22:30 |
| themayor | the one with ajax is about X and the new KMS stuff and the future of displays on linuc | 22:31 |
| themayor | the one with jesse which i am about to do is about ext4 and fedora in general. what all these releases have meant, how is fedora put together, how do we get people to contribute | 22:32 |
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| stickster | Those all sound very cool. | 22:32 |
| stickster | I'm hoping to have mine re: Moksha and PackageKit done this week | 22:33 |
| themayor | awesome | 22:33 |
| themayor | and we will have them all up for distribution on the site | 22:34 |
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| themayor | okay herlo thanks for the offer on the fingerprint thing | 22:34 |
| moixs | bye bye herlo :) | 22:34 |
| themayor | otherwise, moixs whats going on with the ndn for release | 22:34 |
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| moixs | themayor: as discussed by you...3-4 weeks ago, docs is creating the release announcement, you should poke the translation people and give it to me 3-4 days before the release date. | 22:36 |
| moixs | Then I'll manage the distribution as usual | 22:36 |
| themayor | stickster: when is the release announcement supposed to be done? | 22:36 |
| stickster | themayor: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-docs-tasks.html | 22:36 |
| stickster | May 20-22 according to the schedule | 22:37 |
| moixs | only in EN or already translated? | 22:37 |
| themayor | i think only in | 22:37 |
| themayor | EN | 22:37 |
| moixs | That's damn short | 22:37 |
| stickster | That's produced by the Docs team | 22:38 |
| stickster | If we want a longer lead time, then I would say the next thing themayor should do is email the f-marketing-list and f-docs-list and ask to revise that timeline | 22:38 |
| moixs | What I worry about is the translation | 22:38 |
| stickster | You could suggest, say, the 12th of May, which gives almost two weeks for translation | 22:39 |
| themayor | yes true | 22:39 |
| themayor | are you guys up to that? | 22:39 |
| moixs | the sooner, the better | 22:39 |
| stickster | themayor: OK, so you'll email today then? | 22:40 |
| moixs | Honestly, it shouldn't take Docs too long for this, as it's mostly a revamp of the announcements already made | 22:40 |
| stickster | There is usually a "thematic" part that is probably not good material for translation because it tends to be regional in nature -- either slang or other idiomatic use | 22:40 |
| stickster | But local teams could use it as a general basis and then come up with their own meaningful language. | 22:41 |
| themayor | yes | 22:41 |
| themayor | i can send it right now | 22:41 |
| stickster | The second part of the announcement usually contains facts and is more "straight talk." That part is much easier to translate, and might not even change much from the F-10 version. | 22:41 |
| themayor | in that same vein, we should coordinate with ambassadors about saturating the web | 22:42 |
| themayor | moixs: do you want to take that on as part of the ndn portion of tasks? | 22:42 |
| moixs | sure | 22:42 |
| moixs | I'll use the ambassador list for that | 22:43 |
| themayor | okay we need to devise a plan | 22:43 |
| themayor | i suggest thisd | 22:43 |
| themayor | hmm | 22:44 |
| themayor | i had an idea but i changed it | 22:44 |
| moixs | what a good plan :D | 22:45 |
| themayor | hahahaha | 22:45 |
| themayor | okay no lets do this instead | 22:45 |
| themayor | each ndn person has their blanket responsibility for their language for the press | 22:45 |
| themayor | each person should also be responsible for following up that coverage | 22:45 |
| themayor | do we want to say that? | 22:45 |
| themayor | so like monitoring whats going on, putting it back in the wiki | 22:46 |
| moixs | It's already written and part of the job | 22:46 |
| moixs | (in theory) | 22:46 |
| themayor | well we need to make it in practice | 22:46 |
| moixs | Yes, people don't do it now, and we can use the ambassadors for that | 22:46 |
| moixs | They probably already do it "naturally" | 22:47 |
| moixs | But I'll specify that point in the mail | 22:47 |
| themayor | okay so we should coordinate with the ambassadors to follow the coverage and put it up on the wiki and let us know when something is needed | 22:47 |
| moixs | yes | 22:47 |
| themayor | and ambassadors should be responsible for doing social media as well | 22:47 |
| themayor | digg, slashdot, etc | 22:47 |
| themayor | stickster: is someone responsible for it now? | 22:48 |
| themayor | because we always end up having duplicate posts | 22:48 |
| stickster | themayor: One of the reasons that has happened in the past is that there's not been any clear plan from Marketing on who is filing posts for which sites. | 22:48 |
| moixs | NDN is *supposed* to manage that | 22:49 |
| stickster | themayor: This is the opportunity to make that happen so that we can correct the problem. ;-) | 22:49 |
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| moixs | # English: Jack, Shambo | 22:50 |
| themayor | okay so if its up to us, we can do it, i just wanted to make sure no one was already tasked with it | 22:50 |
| themayor | do we have a list of the common social media sites we usually target? i guess we can get that from ambassadors | 22:51 |
| moixs | We should relaunch an update of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications | 22:52 |
| moixs | and add it there | 22:52 |
| themayor | moixs: do you want to send a thread to ambassadors and marketing to ask people what social media sites people usually like to target so that we can update the list? | 22:52 |
| themayor | but lay out this plan as well in the post | 22:53 |
| stickster | themayor: Beyond social media, we need a plan for filing stories with the news sites too. | 22:53 |
| themayor | not just ask them the question | 22:53 |
| stickster | OSnews, slashdot, LWN, etc. | 22:53 |
| themayor | stickster: we have one, thats the ndn | 22:53 |
| moixs | yes :D | 22:53 |
| stickster | RIght -- so these are done by nation -- who is doing the USA sites? | 22:53 |
| moixs | This publication list is who we target | 22:53 |
| themayor | me and shambo | 22:53 |
| themayor | english is on me | 22:54 |
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| moixs | I think that it would be a good idea to send a recap mail to the marketing and ambassador list about NDN, so everyone clearly knows what it is and what it isn't | 22:55 |
| moixs | I can do that tomorrow | 22:55 |
| themayor | yeah we need a general email saying this is the news and media coverage plan for f11 | 22:55 |
| themayor | we have the ndn | 22:56 |
| themayor | this is what it needs to be doing | 22:56 |
| themayor | we want ambassadors to help with X | 22:56 |
| themayor | these are the dates | 22:56 |
| moixs | exactly | 22:56 |
| stickster | moixs: That's a brilliant idea. | 22:56 |
| themayor | also mention, everyone should be blogging something this week and next about the upcoming release | 22:56 |
| moixs | okay | 22:56 |
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| moixs | So, we are clear about this point for now | 22:57 |
| moixs | anything else? picture book? | 22:57 |
| themayor | picture book, so mo says, we need to have a better way to upload pictures | 22:57 |
| moixs | yes, the whole tag thing is unclear | 22:58 |
| themayor | otherwise, the best way is after release to get 2-3 people to sit down and ask people for links to photo sets and for us to pick them out | 22:58 |
| themayor | because she said its too cumbersome to upload pictures now | 22:58 |
| themayor | ianweller: are you still here? | 23:00 |
| ianweller | hi what | 23:00 |
| themayor | do you have any thought about what i said regarding uploading pictures? | 23:00 |
| ianweller | hmm | 23:01 |
| themayor | do we want to maybe try sitting down 2-3 people and just asking people for like flickr streams and us doing the leg work? | 23:01 |
| ianweller | sure | 23:01 |
| ianweller | yeah that's one of the 'options' on the submission page. | 23:02 |
| ianweller | i.e. give us a link of pictures, we'll see what we want. | 23:02 |
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| ianweller | i'm still uploading mo's pictures because i just keep forgetting to get back to the ones i had to check on names with | 23:03 |
| themayor | yeah but i think we need to actively prod people | 23:03 |
| ianweller | yes. | 23:03 |
| ianweller | and i still need to type up the instructions for mo to do release form checks | 23:03 |
| ianweller | which is a lot less cumbersome, i think, than the actual uploading :P) | 23:04 |
| ianweller | :) * | 23:04 |
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| themayor | okay well either way, can we say that the first monday after release will be the day we go prodding people? | 23:05 |
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| moixs | They will be less stressed, that's sure :p | 23:06 |
| themayor | ianweller: ? | 23:07 |
| ianweller | hi | 23:07 |
| ianweller | um | 23:07 |
| ianweller | yes. | 23:07 |
| ianweller | most definitely. i'll be a hell of a lot less stressed then too cuz school's out then | 23:08 |
| moixs | (are we done?) | 23:09 |
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| themayor | okay great | 23:10 |
| themayor | so thats that | 23:10 |
| themayor | we have our tasks, ill send out those emails and do what i got to do now | 23:10 |
| themayor | moixs: you know what to do too right? | 23:10 |
| moixs | yep | 23:10 |
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| themayor | alright, thats a wrap folks | 23:15 |