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Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-06-16
Agenda: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00499.html
Attendees
- adamw
- rjune_wrk
- tk009
- nirik
- arxs
- sgireesh
- comphappy_
- thomasj
- comphappy
- jlaska
Meeting Recap
- Topic: update on components and triagers page refresh (and FAS groups)
The components page is still in early development, with some design decisions yet to be finalized. comphappy will continue to update on progress. The metrics are not currently updating, this is a result of ongoing work comphappy is doing, and he aware of the issue.
- Topic: tk009 to report if he figured out how the 'important component list' was generated
Spoke with jds2001 and f13 after the meeting. f13 advised using https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal from FAD as a guide to updating the "triagers components list" rather than the method that was used previously. Will investigate and advise next week.
- Topic: update on kernel triage status
No new information at this time. adamw is awaiting responses, and will escalate if not received soon. There was discussion on this topic in the F11 retrospective meeting. We are reminded to ensure we coordinate our efforts with all interested parties.
- Topic: request from EPEL project for help with their bug day
There was general discussion and a reminder about the upcoming EPEL Team Bug Day. The event will take place in #epel on freenode. Michael Stahnke of the EPEL Project will provide further details on fedora-test-list when available.
All BugZappers are encouraged to help and support the EPEL team by participating in this event.
IRC Transcript
| rjune_wrk | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
|---|---|---|
| adamw | well, this is new. :) | 15:02 |
| tk009 | its great | 15:02 |
| tk009 | no need to log | 15:02 |
| tk009 | rjune_wrk in the eeting chair | 15:03 |
| rjune_wrk | I'm doing it today guys, please bear with me | 15:03 |
| rjune_wrk | #topic update on components and triagers page refresh (and FAS groups) | 15:03 |
| adamw | that should be arxs | 15:03 |
| rjune_wrk | arxs: update? | 15:04 |
| arxs | rjune_wrk: it's done since last week | 15:04 |
| arxs | the version that are now in the wiki is the final one | 15:04 |
| rjune_wrk | ok then. | 15:04 |
| adamw | on FAS groups | 15:04 |
| adamw | comphappy is working on having a components page as part of the triage metrics system, using the FAS group | 15:05 |
| adamw | it's not ready yet but it's In Progress | 15:05 |
| adamw | quote: "adamw: the components page is not up yet I was sorting some stuff out with kylev, there is some db trickery that I will have to think about. Also been thinking about the best way to deal with the requests to break down the triage metrics by release. I will get back to you in more detail on that wed" | 15:05 |
| * sgireesh joined a bit late.. | 15:06 | |
| rjune_wrk | comphappy_: just talking about you | 15:06 |
| adamw | hey sgireesh / comphappy_, we're walking the agenda, rjune_wrk is leading today | 15:06 |
| rjune_wrk | adamw: anything else? | 15:06 |
| adamw | unless comphappy_ wants to add anything (i explained what we talked about last night, brennan) - no | 15:07 |
| adamw | (this is on the components page in triageweb) | 15:07 |
| comphappy_ | What do you need? I am on the run | 15:07 |
| adamw | nothing needed unless you specifically wanted to mention anything :) | 15:07 |
| comphappy_ | Nope | 15:08 |
| rjune_wrk | #meetingtopic fedora bugzappers | 15:08 |
| rjune_wrk | #topic tk009 to report if he figured out how the 'important component list' was generated | 15:08 |
| tk009 | ok | 15:08 |
| rjune_wrk | Moving along, tk009? | 15:08 |
| tk009 | I have tried to squeeze jds2001 | 15:08 |
| comphappy | Unless you got any imfo on kernel | 15:08 |
| adamw | that's later | 15:09 |
| rjune_wrk | comphappy: that's coming up | 15:09 |
| tk009 | but he has not replied to e either in IRC or email | 15:09 |
| tk009 | I will be up his butt today | 15:09 |
| rjune_wrk | tk009: any other contact method? | 15:09 |
| adamw | STEAMROLLER | 15:09 |
| rjune_wrk | going up his butt might require a level of familiarity you don't have. | 15:09 |
| tk009 | my foot neds no intro | 15:10 |
| rjune_wrk | heh | 15:10 |
| rjune_wrk | ok, let's put that off till next week then, yes? | 15:10 |
| tk009 | the list | 15:10 |
| tk009 | it will be completed before next week | 15:10 |
| rjune_wrk | ok | 15:12 |
| rjune_wrk | #topic update on kernel triage status | 15:12 |
| rjune_wrk | adamw sent out an email to the guys involved, I've not seen anything back, to knowledge neither has adamw or tk009, yes? | 15:12 |
| adamw | yeah, we are waiting on cebbert | 15:12 |
| adamw | if he doesn't reply relatively soon jlaska will escalate | 15:12 |
| tk009 | nothing here but I am behind | 15:13 |
| tk009 | I have 280 emails to read | 15:13 |
| adamw | just one thing to add - at the retrospective meeting that's going on right now, jon stanley mentioned he's interested in improved kernel qa | 15:13 |
| adamw | so he may be willing to help us out here | 15:13 |
| jlaska | adamw: I think it was j-rod who mentioned that | 15:13 |
| rjune_wrk | enlighten me, who's he? | 15:13 |
| adamw | oh yes | 15:13 |
| adamw | jarod wilson, rather | 15:13 |
| adamw | he has no people page | 15:14 |
| adamw | bad j-rod | 15:15 |
| rjune_wrk | Anything else? | 15:15 |
| adamw | his site is http://wilsonet.com/ | 15:15 |
| rjune_wrk | oops, sorry | 15:15 |
| adamw | he does kernel stuff | 15:15 |
| adamw | irc nick is j-rod | 15:16 |
| adamw | i'll try and bring him in on this thing | 15:16 |
| adamw | alright, i think that's it for that topic :) | 15:16 |
| rjune_wrk | ok then | 15:16 |
| rjune_wrk | #topic request from EPEL project for help with their bug day | 15:16 |
| adamw | so, this is a pretty simple one - we were contacted by michael stahnke, who's involved with EPEL, for help with a test day they have coming up | 15:17 |
| adamw | he also mailed the list (topic "EPEL Bug Day"), and gave a wiki link - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Bug_Day_July_2009 | 15:17 |
| adamw | date is july 11th | 15:18 |
| tk009 | how does this work? | 15:18 |
| rjune_wrk | what does he want help with? | 15:18 |
| adamw | for anyone who's unaware, EPEL is a project to provide unofficial extra packages (mainly based on fedora packages) for RHEL | 15:18 |
| tk009 | can we change redhat bugs? | 15:18 |
| nirik | no, just epel bugs. ;) | 15:18 |
| adamw | they're not red hat bugs (epel is a separate project), and yeah, we can. | 15:19 |
| tk009 | =) | 15:19 |
| adamw | yes, those are good questions and the ones I asked him too :) | 15:19 |
| nirik | look at your bugzilla front page, and you will see there are 140 "Fedora EPEL" bugs... those are the ones we want to run though. | 15:19 |
| adamw | he's promised to provide us more information closer to the time. | 15:19 |
| * nirik is also happy to provide more info on it. | 15:19 | |
| adamw | i think in principle we're happy to help, in practice we need info on what needs doing and then anyone who's around on the day can certainly show up at that event to help out. | 15:20 |
| adamw | anyone disagree/really enthusiastic/have suggestions? | 15:20 |
| rjune_wrk | How many bugs that get fixed in fedora are still broken in epel? don't they basically rebuild extras? | 15:20 |
| sgireesh | is there a difference in the process flow in EPEL? | 15:21 |
| arxs | for triage of EPEL bugs, is a installed RHEL needed? | 15:21 |
| thomasj | Will that event happen in #fedora-bugzappers? | 15:21 |
| adamw | "Where: Primary activity will take place on bugzilla and in IRC channel #epel on freenode. " | 15:22 |
| nirik | rjune_wrk: usually maintainers are the same, so any fixes go into epel too. | 15:22 |
| nirik | rhel shouldn't be needed. You could get by with a centos box, or in some cases neither. | 15:22 |
| arxs | nirik: thanks for pointing that out | 15:22 |
| nirik | mostly the idea would be to triage these bugs and see what they are, ping for progress, see if any are easyfix, that kind of thing. | 15:23 |
| nirik | since there are only (ha) 140 of them, we might be able to get though looking at them all at least. | 15:23 |
| * thomasj should just read the link, thanks anyways adamw | 15:24 | |
| adamw | what about sgireesh's process question? | 15:24 |
| adamw | does epel follow the rhel bug flow? fedora bug flow? something different? :) | 15:24 |
| nirik | ah, yes. Good question. I don't think so... epel should follow the fedora bug flow. | 15:24 |
| sgireesh | ok | 15:25 |
| adamw | fedora bug flow is of course https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow | 15:25 |
| nirik | with some minor differences I guess... | 15:25 |
| nirik | there is no rawhide. | 15:25 |
| * nirik nods. Yes, epel should follow that same process. | 15:25 | |
| rjune_wrk | that it for this topic? | 15:27 |
| adamw | think so | 15:28 |
| rjune_wrk | Thank you all for coming | 15:29 |
| rjune_wrk | #endmeeting | 15:29 |
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