QA/Meetings/20120206

Attendees

• adamw (88)
• kparal (26)
• tflink (25)
• brunowolff (9)
• zodbot (4)
• josef (3)
• jskladan (2)
• mkrizek (1)
• pschindl (1)

Agenda

• Previous meeting follow-up
• Upcoming QA events
• AutoQA update
• Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

• kparal to file a bug for the failure of rats #2 DVD image to boot: done
• tflink to test building a boot.iso with usrmove builds: done, issues with lorax revealed and filed

Upcoming QA events

• Feature 'freeze' is 02-07 and RC1 is scheduled for 02-16
• Plan to build TC2 with /usr moved included as soon as remaining issues with lorax are resolved
• There are instructions for handling /usr move on yum upgrades
• Blocker review 02-10

AutoQA update

• rats_install is merged into autoqa master, needs minor fixes tomorrow
• bodhi mailshots were broken due to expired/locked account, now fixed

Open floor

• remote_install: tflink is waiting for management approval of the public demo, everything is lined up ready to go

Action items

• adamw to co-ordinate with dgilmore on getting lorax updated and a new compose done

IRC Log

adamw	#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting	16:00
zodbot	Meeting started Mon Feb 6 16:00:53 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	16:00
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	16:00
adamw	#meetingname fedora-qa	16:01
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	16:01
adamw	#topic roll call	16:01
adamw	happy monday everyone	16:01
adamw	who's here for some awesome qa meeting fun times?	16:01
* mkrizek is here		16:01
* tflink is present		16:01
* kparal appears		16:02
adamw	oh no! a level 65 kparal!	16:02
* kparal looks suspiciously for a hidden meaning		16:03
adamw	your join message reminded me of an RPG for some reason	16:03
kparal	or any meaning :)	16:03
adamw	=)	16:04
kparal	I see. let's slain the latecomers!	16:04
adamw	alright then, let's get going - not a lot on the agenda this week, happily	16:04
* jskladan is in		16:04
adamw	hi josef	16:04
* pschindl is here		16:05
adamw	#topic previous meeting follow-up	16:05
adamw	"kparal to file a bug for the failure of rats #2 DVD image to boot" - that got done, during the meeting in fact	16:05
kparal	yup	16:06
adamw	#info kparal did file a bug for the rats #2 DVD boo fail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785808	16:06
josef	adamw: hey, just hanging out until the fesco meeting	16:06
josef	dont mind me :)	16:06
adamw	"tflink to test building a boot.iso with usrmove builds "	16:06
adamw	josef: uh, I meant *our* josef :)	16:06
adamw	jskladan = also a josef	16:07
adamw	so this one also got done	16:07
adamw	yay us	16:07
adamw	#info tflink was eventually able to build a functional boot.iso, exposing some required changes in the build process along the way	16:07
josef	ah haha	16:07
* tflink is currently working to build another boot.iso, will post that once its done		16:08
adamw	alright. anything else anyone wants to pick up on from last week? I don't see anything else	16:08
adamw	okey dokey	16:09
adamw	#topic upcoming QA events	16:09
adamw	so we're into the f17 alpha cycle now, TC1 is out there and under test	16:09
adamw	feature 'freeze' is tomorrow and RC1 is scheduled for 02-16	16:10
adamw	so we're going to want at least one more TC, probably two	16:10
adamw	i think it's probably a good idea to spin a TC2 ASAP now the /usr move has landed in Rawhide, so we have a post-/usr-move TC to bash on and compare to the pre-/usr-move one	16:11
adamw	anyone any thoughts there?	16:11
tflink	current version of lorax won't work with usrmove	16:11
adamw	ah, okay	16:11
adamw	so we'll need a new one before we can do another compose?	16:11
* tflink submitted a patch		16:11
tflink	yeah, the compose will fail silently, otherwise	16:12
tflink	as in it will build but won't actually work	16:12
adamw	#info current lorax does not work correctly with post-/usr-move packages, needs a patch tflink has submitted	16:12
adamw	thanks for looking into that!	16:12
tflink	woah, what happend to koji	16:12
adamw	makeover!	16:13
adamw	#info koji is looking sleek and sophisticated this morning	16:13
tflink	adamw: so the usrmove RPMs hit rawhide?	16:13
adamw	yup	16:13
adamw	hot tagged over on friday	16:14
adamw	s/hot/got/	16:14
tflink	isn't that going to bork any additional testing w/ TC1?	16:14
tflink	nvm, I rethought that one	16:14
adamw	well, depends what you mean by 'testing'	16:14
adamw	you'll have to follow the upgrade procedure to get a TC1 install to update now, that's about all the consequences	16:14
tflink	adamw: only from DVD, netinstall shouldn't require upgrade	16:15
adamw	so, yeah, in case you get stuck upgrading TC1 or need to help someone else, refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17	16:15
adamw	tflink: yeah, indeed, netinstall should give you a /usr-moved system now. and hopefully should work.	16:15
adamw	#info in case you get stuck upgrading TC1 or need to help someone else, refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17	16:15
brunowolff	I tried that this weekend and it worked, but there were a couple of oddities.	16:15
adamw	brunowolff: what were the oddities?	16:15
brunowolff	The files get moved over without copying their context type so a relabel is needed, but I didn't see a relabel in the instructions.	16:16
brunowolff	The other was that luks password asking was a bit different. Before switching the root, each needed device got asked about	16:17
adamw	i think one is meant to get triggered somehow as part of the instructions, i forget how precisely	16:17
brunowolff	separately and asterisks weren't echoed like normal.	16:17
brunowolff	This happened both in the initial conversion boot and when rebooting after the update.	16:18
brunowolff	I did a relabel and rebuilt the initramfs again and both issues went away.	16:18
adamw	brunowolff: ah, the 'fixfiles onboot' triggers an selinux relabel next boot.	16:18
brunowolff	The relabel could probably be avoided by copy over the selinix labels when copying the files.	16:19
adamw	probably.	16:19
adamw	maybe file a bug on dracut suggesting that? as that's where the script lives	16:19
adamw	okay, moving on!	16:21
adamw	oh, i note that the first test day slot is this week but we have no event	16:21
brunowolff	OK, I didn't see the fixfiles part since I was off the script by that point since I was already running rawhide. I would have likely noticed a restorecon.	16:21
adamw	that's fairly usual early in the cycle as people usually want t ogo later	16:22
brunowolff	And with restorecon the relabel could have been limited to a few directories and taken less time.	16:22
adamw	we don't have a j_dulaney to give us a test day update, but he seems to be on top of the tickets.	16:23
adamw	and we have the next blocker review meeting coming up friday, of course.	16:24
tflink	yay!	16:24
adamw	#action adamw to co-ordinate with dgilmore on getting lorax updated and a new compose done	16:24
adamw	fun abounds!	16:24
tflink	sounds like there's going to be a new anaconda build today, too	16:24
adamw	goody.	16:25
adamw	okay, anything else on upcoming events?	16:26
adamw	alrighty then	16:28
adamw	#topic autoqa update	16:28
adamw	#chair tflink kparal	16:28
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink	16:28
adamw	take it away, autoqa wielders	16:28
* kparal waiting for zimbra...		16:28
kparal	anyway, the biggest change from last week is that rats_install is finally merged into master	16:29
kparal	so kudos hongqing	16:29
kparal	after that we found out about that root=<foo> anaconda option that is required right now, so it will need one minor patch to get it fully working for the composes	16:29
kparal	and of course we need to have the repository branched, but that should happen tomorrow	16:30
jskladan	and probably the most visible AutoQA update: http://autoqa-stg.fedoraproject.org/resultsdb/frontend we finally have the ResultsDB frontend up'n'running since last friday (even though just collecting data from staging). Looks to be working all right so far ;) (kudos to pschindl!)	16:30
kparal	and yes, resultsdb being the second biggest change :)	16:30
adamw	#info rats_install is merged into autoqa master, needs minor fixes tomorrow	16:31
adamw	#info resultsdb is now up and running at http://autoqa-stg.fedoraproject.org/resultsdb/frontend	16:31
adamw	thanks petr and hongqing!	16:31
kparal	we also learned that we were not sending Bodhi emails for some time due to expired/locked account. that is now also fixed	16:31
adamw	so what's the status of rats_install exactly (assuming the fixes tomorrow)?	16:31
adamw	is it actually at the point now where we can truly have it running entirely automated install tests?	16:32
adamw	#info bodhi mailshots were broken due to expired/locked account, now fixed	16:32
kparal	I need to verify that, because I still don't have the branched repo. I need to check the watchers etc. but basically it should be well prepared	16:32
kparal	I also need to get two bare-metal machines and add them to our staging server so that we can test it our properly	16:33
kparal	I still haven't considered where I will take these machines from	16:33
adamw	whatever you do, just don't get caught	16:33
tflink	kparal: you could take them from production	16:33
kparal	tflink: yes, that is what I will probably try	16:34
tflink	ie lock 2 bare metal hosts in production, add them to staging and hope it doesn't explode	16:34
* tflink wonders if autotest will be confused with 2 controllers		16:34
kparal	adamw: does this sentence make you an accomplice?	16:34
adamw	kparal: not as long as irc is an insecure protocol it doesn't	16:35
kparal	:)	16:35
adamw	tflink: you're testing! you're testing!	16:35
adamw	okay, sounds like good stuff, congratulations	16:36
kparal	tflink: I'll ask lmr, as long as they are locked at one controller, it shouldn't be a problem I guess	16:36
tflink	kparal: otherwise, I don't think it's too much of a problem to reinstall those hosts but jlaska would know more	16:37
kparal	I'll work on that	16:37
adamw	cool. anything else for autoqa?	16:38
kparal	that's it	16:39
adamw	okelydokely	16:40
adamw	#topic open floor	16:41
adamw	okay, any other business anyone?	16:41
kparal	I just want to ask what the current status of remote_installation is	16:42
* tflink is waiting for management approval of the demo		16:43
tflink	everything is set up and ready to go otherwise	16:43
adamw	on which topic, has anyone heard from benl lately?	16:43
kparal	great	16:43
adamw	i'm waiting for a reply from him too	16:43
tflink	he said something about traveling until tuesday, but I'm not sure	16:43
kparal	I can harass him in person if you want	16:44
kparal	he can't escape, he's at the same building, if not traveling	16:44
tflink	he doesn't seem to be on IRC right now	16:44
adamw	yeah, hasn't been for a while when i've looked	16:45
* tflink is wondering if he should re-setup for F17 alpha instead of F16 for remote_install, though		16:45
adamw	tflink: that seems reasonable, given that it's what we want to test :)	16:46
tflink	adamw: my only argument against it is that the demo is for remote_install, not for testing fedora	16:46
tflink	but that isn't a very strong argument	16:46
tflink	either way, I'm waiting for the OK before I do much more	16:46
adamw	okay	16:47
adamw	kparal: if you could look out for ben it'd be appreciated	16:47
adamw	or anyone who might know where he's gotten to	16:48
kparal	adamw: I'll ask around tomorrow	16:48
adamw	oh, hey, he modified my 1x1 slot for tomorrow.	16:48
adamw	so he's aliiiiiive anyway, wherever he is.	16:48
adamw	#info remote_install status: mostly ready to go into public testing, tflink waiting for go-ahead from benl	16:50
adamw	alright, i guess that's about it	16:52
adamw	oh, we also need to fill out tc1 testing, of course	16:52
adamw	looks like robatino and hongqing have knocked out quite a bit of it so far	16:52
adamw	alrighty then, meeting's over, time for heavy drinking everyone! thanks for coming	16:54
adamw	#endmeeting	16:54

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