QA/Meetings/20120305

Attendees

• adamw (88)
• kparal (21)
• j_dulaney (21)
• tflink (14)
• jskladan (10)
• brunowolff (8)
• zodbot (6)
• aalam (5)
• dgilmore (3)
• nirik (2)
• Cerlyn (1)
• pschindl (1)

Agenda

• Previous meeting follow-up
• Fedora 17 Beta prep
• Upcoming QA events
• AutoQA update
• Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

• "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, most of the big hits are covered
• "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, please test
• "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - adam didn't get to that one yet
• "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - updates have started rolling again

Fedora 17 Beta prep

• everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end

Upcoming QA events

• First Test Days due this week - i18n/l10n on 03-07, OpenStack on 03-08
• Still looking for a volunteer to run Friday's blocker review

AutoQA update

• resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week
• Depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master
• New autoqa release planned in a couple of days
• Some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer

Open floor

N/A

IRC Log

adamw	#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting	16:00
zodbot	Meeting started Mon Mar 5 16:00:06 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	16:00
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	16:00
adamw	#meetingname fedora-qa	16:00
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	16:00
adamw	#topic roll call	16:00
adamw	#chair kparal	16:00
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw kparal	16:00
adamw	morning folks, it's meeting time	16:00
adamw	who's around?	16:00
* brunowolff is here		16:01
* pschindl is here		16:01
* jskladan is lurking today		16:01
* tflink is present		16:01
adamw	#chair tflink	16:02
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink	16:02
* kparal pops up		16:02
* Cerlyn is here		16:02
* adamw whacks kparal		16:02
* nirik is lurking		16:02
adamw	sorry....years of highly-trained mole reflexes	16:02
kparal	.smash adamw	16:02
kparal	damn, it never works for me	16:02
kparal	bot, where are you?	16:02
kparal	zodbot: .fire zodbot	16:03
adamw	aha! I am unsmashable	16:03
* adamw fires zodbot		16:03
kparal	I think I'm in a blacklist	16:03
adamw	okay, let's get this crazy show on the road, kids	16:04
jskladan	kparal: you have been fired too many times, I guess :))	16:04
adamw	#topic Fedora 17 Beta prep	16:04
adamw	so, uh, if i was any better at this job i'd probably have done some!	16:04
* j_dulaney is here		16:04
adamw	oh, wait a sec	16:04
adamw	#undo	16:04
zodbot	Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x1f930f50>	16:04
adamw	#topic previous meeting follow-up	16:05
adamw	knew I was missing something.	16:05
adamw	#info "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, i think it has most of the big hits	16:05
adamw	#info "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, hope people have been testing them	16:06
adamw	#info "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - didn't get to that one yet	16:06
adamw	#info "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - I guess you got that done, bruno	16:07
adamw	BRUNO! don't quit on us, bruno!	16:08
adamw	welp, f17 updates got moving again, anyway, so it seems like it happened.	16:08
brunowolff	I am here	16:09
adamw	it's aliiiive	16:09
adamw	oh, nirik - what happened with the ec2 image? do we have one now?	16:09
brunowolff	I am multi-tasking though not well.	16:09
nirik	adamw: dunno. dgilmore was working on that.	16:09
tflink	adamw: I think that we got one but I'm not sure that it worked	16:10
adamw	brunowolff: preach it.	16:10
adamw	what the hell is with people expecting stuff to work around here?	16:10
* tflink vaguely remembers something about failures for the EC2 image but could be wrong		16:11
adamw	wah, wah, my image doesn't boot, wah, wah, the usb stick ran away with my wife, it's just whine whine whine with you people	16:11
tflink	adamw: if your wife ran away with the USB stic ... I think you have other issues to deal with :)	16:12
* j_dulaney thinks someone's about to be fired		16:12
adamw	heh	16:12
kparal	right, why don't people thank us for that?	16:12
kparal	weird	16:12
j_dulaney	Bloody VMs	16:12
adamw	ookay then	16:13
* j_dulaney continues the saga of creating VMs whilst drunk that don't work		16:13
adamw	#topic fedora 17 beta prep	16:13
adamw	j_dulaney: the problem is clearly that you're not drunk enough	16:13
* j_dulaney isn't drunk at all right now		16:13
dgilmore	adamw: no ec2 yet	16:13
adamw	ah, okay	16:13
dgilmore	adamw: i need to sit down and write some appliance-tools code	16:13
adamw	so, it looks like we're still missing the raid and upgrade tests from alpha	16:14
adamw	those are the two likely hairy areas at beta	16:14
adamw	i meant to get the raid tests done but never quite made it	16:14
* tflink did iSCSI BFT and forgot to update the matrix		16:14
tflink	still haven't done the regular iSCSI test case yet	16:14
adamw	cool, thanks	16:14
adamw	so we can try and get some of those done today, but in theory we should have a beta TC1 tomorrow	16:15
adamw	dgilmore: any idea if we're on track for that? any big compose-blocking issues you know of?	16:15
tflink	I'll probably try to wait for the TC1 image before trying the iSCSI tests again - my test machine can't boot alpha and I've been using a custom image	16:16
dgilmore	adamw: im not aware of anything	16:16
adamw	rats_install today fails at 'bootloader' so that's good, that's just the regular serial failure...it made it all the way through the ret	16:16
adamw	rest	16:16
brunowolff	We got a -1 for the pulseaudio update this morning, so that issue may not be resolved.	16:16
adamw	brunowolff: erf. really? it's working here.	16:17
brunowolff	Well his case was boot to run level 3, so it might not be the same problem.	16:17
brunowolff	And it only was a report of the problem not being fixed, rather than worse.	16:17
adamw	yeah, seems like a bad -1.	16:17
tflink	sound works in runlevel 3?	16:17
adamw	tflink: read https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751902	16:18
brunowolff	So I plan to keeo the update as pending for stable. But we might need another update.	16:18
adamw	brunowolff: from the bug it reads like there's no regression, that bug was reported for f16	16:18
adamw	so i'd say just push the update, it's not making anything worse	16:18
adamw	and it's clearly making most things better	16:19
j_dulaney	+1	16:19
adamw	okay, so, anyway, looks like we're basically on track for tc1 tomorrow	16:20
adamw	and we'll just have to hope upgrades aren't borked too bad.	16:21
adamw	if anyone wants to do some upgrade testing today, of course, go right ahead...	16:21
adamw	#info everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end	16:22
adamw	#topic upcoming QA events	16:22
adamw	so we have tc1 tomorrow as mentioned, and of course a blocker review friday	16:22
adamw	but the big news i guess is the test day cycle kicking in finally - thursday is openstack test day	16:23
* tflink is planning to send out an email to test@ asking for a volunteer to run friday's meeting		16:23
adamw	that's 2012-03-08	16:23
adamw	oh, and wednesday is i18n/l10n test day, i see	16:23
adamw	tflink: cool, if no one steps up, i'll do it	16:23
adamw	#info still looking for a volunteer to run friday's blocker review	16:24
adamw	j_dulaney: everything looking good for the two test days? are their pages prepped and so on?	16:24
j_dulaney	adamw: Indeed	16:24
j_dulaney	adamw: I'll be dropping a blog post today about it	16:24
brunowolff	I can't commit to that since work may intervene duiring the meeting. I expect to be at the meeting though.	16:24
adamw	j_dulaney: great, also test-announce posts &c	16:26
j_dulaney	adamw: Indeed	16:27
adamw	how do we announce things in the cloud? planes with those jetstream trailer thingies? :)	16:27
adamw	anyway, yeah, those look nicely on track, of course the rest of us can blog about them and so on	16:29
adamw	anything else on upcoming events before we move on?	16:29
aalam	adamw: j_dulaney: for l10n test day, it is 2012-03-07, but for i18n test day , i need 2012-03-14	16:29
aalam	Is it possible to do	16:29
aalam	before beta	16:29
j_dulaney	aalam: I see no problem with that	16:29
j_dulaney	aalam: I'll ping you post meeting	16:29
aalam	j_dulaney: thanks	16:30
aalam	ok.	16:30
adamw	sure	16:30
adamw	alrighty, it's time for everyone's favorite all-action show...	16:31
adamw	#topic autoqa update	16:31
adamw	bring out the big hits, kparal and tflink	16:31
* jskladan *fireworks*		16:31
kparal	this weeks' star is jskladan	16:31
kparal	jskladan: bring it on!	16:31
* j_dulaney shoots fireworks at jskladan		16:31
jskladan	ok, big fat news: ResultsDB-integration is finally in master	16:32
jskladan	and we (aka kparal) hope to have it on production by the end of the week	16:32
jskladan	also, the ticket #408	16:32
kparal	so we will have a results frontend finally	16:32
jskladan	Depcheck - argument list too long	16:32
adamw	yaaay, rejoicing	16:33
jskladan	is solved & in master	16:33
adamw	#info resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week	16:33
jskladan	sooo, not only results frontend	16:33
jskladan	but also less CRASHED results :)	16:33
adamw	#info depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master	16:33
adamw	kickass	16:33
kparal	everything should be prepared for a new autoqa release	16:33
kparal	we will wait one and two more days, I'll upgrade some test clients in the meantime	16:34
kparal	and then we will go production	16:34
kparal	anything else, someone?	16:35
adamw	#info new autoqa release planned in a couple of days	16:35
tflink	some tests were removed from autoqa for now	16:35
adamw	awesome work folks, thanks for that	16:35
kparal	ah right	16:35
kparal	we removed some tests we either couldn't maintain (and they were broken) or that we decided are not worth execution ATM	16:36
tflink	I'm going to be writing a compose_tree replacement as time allows	16:36
kparal	that is anaconda_* and compose_tree tests	16:36
kparal	now every test has a maintainer defined	16:36
kparal	and I'm going to insist on that policy :-)	16:36
kparal	EOF	16:37
adamw	#info some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer	16:37
adamw	coolbeans, thanks folks	16:37
adamw	#topic open floor	16:37
adamw	so, anything else anyone's worried about?	16:37
adamw	or shall we all go eat cake?	16:39
j_dulaney	Cake?	16:40
j_dulaney	What cake?	16:40
adamw	there is always cake, my student	16:41
adamw	you must learn only to discern it	16:41
* j_dulaney looks around, notes absence of cake.		16:41
tflink	adamw: the cake is a lie	16:41
j_dulaney	LIES!	16:41
tflink	although, this explains a few things ... adamw's insistance on testing etc.	16:42
adamw	i certainly do a lot of cake testing.	16:42
j_dulaney	And why he's always firing people	16:42
tflink	j_dulaney: better than tests that commonly result in death	16:43
* j_dulaney thinks he fires folks that are too close to finding the truth		16:43
j_dulaney	tflink: Hey, y'all, watch me do *this* test!	16:43
* j_dulaney ramps over four burning airliners		16:43
adamw	that seems like a terrible waste of lift capacity.	16:44
adamw	alrighty then folks	16:45
adamw	thanks for coming	16:45
adamw	everyone get ready for some happy fun beta testing	16:45
* adamw sets fuse for one minute		16:45
* j_dulaney hides from beta testing		16:45
adamw	#endmeeting	16:46

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