QA/Meetings/20120521

Attendees

• tflink (98)
• adamw (27)
• j_dulaney (18)
• kparal (15)
• jskladan (13)
• brunowolff (9)
• cpuobsessed (6)
• zodbot (6)
• pschindl (5)
• mkrizek (4)
• nonamedotc (3)
• ianweller (2)
• Cerlyn (1)
• chaosinc (1)
• jsmith (1)

Agenda

• Previous meeting follow-up
• Fedora 17 Final status / planning
• Test Day report
• Upcoming QA events
• 2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results
• Pending RHBZ Upgrade
• AutoQA update
• Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

• adamw or tflink to check status of #810104 with TC5 - the EFI issues ended up being an issue with the build environment, has been fixed
• adamw to create some shared bugzilla searches for F17 final blocker/nth to replace the wiki page - we decided we would update the blocker page by hand instead

Fedora 17 Final status/planning

• rhbug:822495 still needs to be verified
• gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 needs karma in order to make it into RC3

Blocker review

• AGREED: rhbug:823189 is rejected as a blocker, does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds

Upcoming QA events

• Go/no-go scheduled for Thursday 2012-05-24

2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results

• 6 testers reported results, 13 bugs referenced

AutoQA update

• jskladan spent time to optimize resultsdb searches and they're much faster now

Action items

• tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand

IRC Log

tflink	#startmeeting fedora-qa	15:00
zodbot	Meeting started Mon May 21 15:00:50 2012 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:00
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	15:00
tflink	#meetingname fedora-qa	15:00
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	15:00
tflink	jskladan: #topic roll call	15:01
* adamw rides in with the palace guard		15:01
tflink	#chair adamw	15:01
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw tflink	15:01
tflink	adamw: wasn't sure if you were around or not	15:01
adamw	it's a vacation here but i'm showing up for the meeting	15:01
adamw	you go ahead and run it though	15:01
* jskladan switched from rock'n;roll to death metal		15:01
kparal	tflink: #topic failed	15:01
tflink	kparal: looks like it did, hrm	15:02
tflink	#topic roll call	15:02
* cpuobsessed switched from classical to progressive metal		15:02
tflink	there we go	15:02
* pschindl is here		15:02
* mkrizek is here		15:02
* kparal raises his hand shyly		15:02
* cpuobsessed is here		15:02
Cerlyn	$MEETING_GREETING	15:02
* brunowolff will be here for about 25 minutes, but then I have another meeting		15:02
* jskladan still here, but getting slayer-neck		15:02
tflink	jskladan: slayer-neck?	15:03
cpuobsessed	head banger?	15:03
tflink	yeah, that was my first though	15:03
tflink	thought	15:03
jskladan	cpuobsessed: yup :)	15:03
tflink	ok, I think we have enough people to get this party started	15:05
tflink	#topic Previous Meeting Follow-Up	15:05
jsmith	Did someone say party?	15:05
tflink	a qa party, even :)	15:05
tflink	#info adamw or tflink to check status of #810104 with TC5	15:06
adamw	tc5? oh, so old.	15:06
tflink	this ended up being an issue with a stray buildroot override that was causing problems	15:06
adamw	we've tested that since. i filed a pass for it in rc2 matrix i think.	15:06
tflink	yep	15:06
adamw	and it's closed, so that's all good.	15:07
tflink	#info the EFI issues ended up being an issue with the build environment, has been fixed	15:07
tflink	#info adamw to create some shared bugzilla searches for F17 final blocker/nth to replace the wiki page	15:07
tflink	adamw: any progress on this?	15:07
adamw	no, didn't do it yet, sorry	15:09
* tflink wonders if it would be better to just update the blocker wiki page by hand for the next week		15:09
tflink	is this still worth doing?	15:10
adamw	eh, either way.	15:10
* tflink made some queries that should get proposed/accepted blocker/nth		15:10
adamw	it's pretty much empty now anyhow.	15:10
tflink	yep, I see 1 proposed blocker, 1 proposed NTH and 9 accepted NTH	15:10
tflink	assuming that my searches are correct, anyways	15:11
tflink	#action tflink or adamw to keep blocker wiki page updated by hand	15:11
tflink	that's all I see for follow-up	15:12
tflink	on to ... F17 final planning	15:12
tflink	#topic Fedora 17 Final status/planning	15:12
tflink	things look pretty good to me at the moment	15:12
tflink	we have a couple of bugs to go through for blocker/NTH status	15:13
tflink	and one blocker that should be fixed w/ RC2 which needs verification	15:13
tflink	so ... mini blocker review time!	15:13
tflink	#topic (823189) Non - ejection of Live CD Disk	15:13
tflink	#link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823189	15:13
tflink	#info Proposed Blocker, NEW	15:13
* tflink is not a huge fan of the comment box movement in the new BZ		15:14
adamw	yeah, no.	15:14
kparal	it can be adjusted in preferences	15:14
tflink	if this had been proposed a while ago ...	15:14
brunowolff	I don't even see this as NTH.	15:14
adamw	-1/-1. not breaking anything now.	15:14
tflink	oh, it can? awesome.	15:14
pschindl	-1 blocker	15:15
kparal	-1 blocker	15:15
tflink	ok, it sounds like a pretty unanimous -1 blocker	15:15
jskladan	-1 here	15:15
tflink	I'm seeing +1/-2 NTH	15:15
tflink	any other votes on that?	15:16
mkrizek	-1 blocker	15:16
kparal	I'm +1 NTH	15:16
cpuobsessed	-1 blocker	15:16
nonamedotc	-1 here (first time here!)	15:16
* j_dulaney looks at the bug		15:16
tflink	NTH votes (already RejectedBLocker)	15:16
tflink	?	15:16
tflink	+2/-2 at the moment (on NTH)	15:16
kparal	it won't be fixed anyway in this short timeframe	15:17
adamw	would you really want to take a fix if it was?	15:17
pschindl	I'm +1 for NTH	15:17
* tflink is -1 NTH		15:17
cpuobsessed	if it's a pref thing than -1 NTH	15:17
nonamedotc	+1 for NTH	15:18
kparal	it's very late, that's true. can it break something?	15:18
tflink	adamw: no, not this late. this is nothing more than an annoyance	15:18
cpuobsessed	oh you forget the check the box that says "eject when done"	15:18
adamw	it'd be in anaconda, so it could break anything.	15:18
chaosinc	-1 blocker, -1 NTH	15:18
brunowolff	If the change is going to modify spin-kickstarts then we also would need to rebuild that.	15:18
tflink	we seem to be getting +1 NTH as fast as we're getting -1 NTH :)	15:18
tflink	+4/-4 NTH	15:18
* j_dulaney cannot find the bug in question		15:19
kparal	ok, I change my vote to -1 NTH :)	15:19
tflink	+3/-5 NTH	15:19
mkrizek	-1 NTH	15:19
kparal	j_dulaney: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823189	15:19
j_dulaney	kparal: TY	15:19
brunowolff	This is a minor annoyance for people using optical media for live images. At this point in the cycle risking breaking things for this doesn't seem worth it.	15:19
tflink	my thoughts exactly	15:19
kparal	optical media users, ugh. let them suffer! :))	15:20
j_dulaney	-1 NTH, +1 F18 feature	15:20
tflink	proposed #agreed - 823189 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - Does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds (eject by hand).	15:21
pschindl	It would be bether, if there wasn't CDs anymore.	15:21
nonamedotc	Fair point! Changing vote! -1 for NTH - allowed? :)	15:21
kparal	ack	15:21
pschindl	ack	15:21
brunowolff	I don't think it is really a new feature. I seem to remember that live images were ejected on shutdown in the past. But it has been a while since I did a test with optical media instead of a live usb.	15:21
jskladan	ack	15:21
mkrizek	ack	15:21
brunowolff	ack	15:22
tflink	#agreed - 823189 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - Does not hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and it's too late in the release cycle to be taking anaconda changes for minor issues that have workarounds (eject by hand).	15:22
tflink	the only other bug is a accepted blocker that should be fixed	15:23
tflink	the only other bug that is of concern to a blocker review, I mean	15:23
tflink	#topic Fedora 17 Final status/planning	15:24
tflink	#info bz#822495 still needs to be verified	15:25
* tflink will take care of that after the meeting unless someone else wants to do it		15:25
j_dulaney	I vote that as soon as we declare it Gold, we all get waisted.	15:25
j_dulaney	s/waisted/wasted	15:25
tflink	waisted? that sounds like a hula-hoop would be involved	15:26
j_dulaney	Maybe make it a FAD?	15:26
j_dulaney	Hula-hoops are fun!	15:26
tflink	the current plan is to submit a request for RC3 later today	15:26
tflink	which will take the fixes that were missed for RC2, new spin-kickstarts and no extra overrides	15:27
adamw	and possibly gtk3	15:27
adamw	if people karma it	15:27
brunowolff	So far nobody has changed the f17 branch of spin kickstarts since I did a new package build on Saturday.	15:27
adamw	so, test and karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17	15:27
adamw	so, no-one touch it!	15:27
tflink	brunowolff: cool, the changes we were interested in were before saturday, anyways :)	15:28
brunowolff	If only I could enforce that.	15:28
tflink	brunowolff: 2x4 with a nail in the end usually works :-P	15:28
* j_dulaney was thinking Tommy Gun		15:29
brunowolff	I'm off to my work meeting.	15:29
j_dulaney	And a gangster with a New York accent	15:29
tflink	#info gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 needs karma in order to make it into RC3	15:29
adamw	cya bruno	15:29
tflink	brunowolff: thanks for coming!	15:29
* j_dulaney updates it to test		15:29
tflink	ok, is there anything else F17 release related that we need to cover?	15:30
* tflink takes that as a 'no'		15:31
tflink	#topic Upcoming QA events	15:31
tflink	#info no test days planned for this week	15:31
tflink	#info F17 final go/no-go scheduled for Thursday 2012-05-24	15:32
tflink	any other events of note?	15:32
* kparal just noticed gtk3-3.4.3-2.fc17 is not pending any F17 repo		15:32
adamw	no, which is why i took it out of the schedule ;)	15:33
adamw	go/no-go thursday, again.	15:33
tflink	adamw: there was no agenda as of this morning	15:33
tflink	ok, sounds like we know what's going on for the schedule	15:34
adamw	there was in the email	15:34
tflink	good point	15:34
tflink	my bad	15:34
adamw	i win!	15:34
tflink	adamw: not sure I'd take it that far :-P	15:35
tflink	anyhow, does anyone have information from the gnome boxes test day last week?	15:35
adamw	it looked pretty active for the hour or two i stopped by	15:36
adamw	there's six tester results in the matrix and lots of bugs filed	15:36
adamw	looks like quite a few of our brnoers dropped by	15:37
tflink	hrm, should have changed #topic	15:37
tflink	#topic 2012-05-17 Gnome Boxes Test Day Results	15:37
tflink	#info 6 testers reported results	15:37
tflink	#info 13 bugs referenced	15:37
* j_dulaney is returned		15:39
tflink	ok, any AutoQA news?	15:39
tflink	#topic AutoQA Update	15:39
tflink	#chair kparal	15:39
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink	15:39
* tflink doesn't think there's much to say here		15:39
kparal	there is just one, handing mic to jskladan	15:39
tflink	#chair jskladan	15:39
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw jskladan kparal tflink	15:39
jskladan	OK, I guess that the only highlight of last week is that I had some time to optimize resultsdb's search speed	15:39
jskladan	** old: http://bit.ly/KKB6ed	15:40
jskladan	** new: http://bit.ly/KBJlsE	15:40
jskladan	so it's not so painfully slow as it used to be :)	15:40
jskladan	just reasonably slow ;)	15:40
tflink	#info jskladan spent time to optimize resultsdb searches and they're much faster now	15:40
adamw	so it's mono slow not java slow? ;)	15:40
j_dulaney	lulz	15:40
kparal	python slow	15:41
jskladan	python + mysql slow, to be exact	15:41
ianweller	everything is "slow" when there's something faster	15:41
ianweller	:)	15:41
jskladan	and that's it for autoqa updates today	15:42
* jskladan handing the microphone back to tflink		15:42
* j_dulaney thought the mysql wasn't really that slow		15:42
j_dulaney	Just the Python	15:42
tflink	jskladan: cool, good to hear that there's been progress w/ the testing	15:42
* tflink assumes that there are no more AutoQA related updates		15:42
kparal	nope	15:43
tflink	then it's time for ...	15:43
tflink	#topic Open Floor	15:43
tflink	Any other topics to bring up?	15:43
j_dulaney	Where's our release party going tobe?	15:43
adamw	your nearest gutter	15:44
tflink	or nearest place to take a nap :)	15:44
j_dulaney	Might be a bad idea, I met get run over	15:45
* j_dulaney likes tflink's suggestion		15:45
tflink	OK. if there is nothing else, lets get back to wrapping up F17	15:46
* tflink sets fuse for [0,5] minutes		15:46
tflink	OK, thanks for coming everyone!	15:49
tflink	Let's get F17 out the door!	15:49
tflink	#endmeeting	15:49

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