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Attendees
- adamw (73)
- tflink (22)
- jreznik (9)
- kparal (5)
- Viking-Ice (5)
- zodbot (4)
- dgilmore (2)
- jsmith (2)
- mkrizek (1)
- satellit (1)
- pschindl (1)
Agenda
- Previous meeting follow-up
- Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review
- Test case / criteria revision
- Open floor
Previous meeting follow-up
- adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production - this was done
- kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan (re kickstart), and let anaconda team know - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified
- tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo - this was done - warning added to QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing
- viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes - viking opened a bug
Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review
- TC2 was done
- There was a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we needed to get into a TC3
- Blocker list was still considerable, adamw would send out a blocker status mail later
- Agreed to hold daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog
- jreznik was trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods
Open floor
N/A
Action items
- viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes
IRC Log
| adamw | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting | 16:00 |
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| zodbot | Meeting started Mon Dec 17 16:00:24 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 16:00 |
| adamw | #meetingname fedora-qa | 16:00 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | 16:00 |
| adamw | #topic roll call | 16:00 |
| * jsmith is here | 16:00 | |
| * mkrizek is here | 16:01 | |
| * satellit listening | 16:01 | |
| * kparal around | 16:01 | |
| * tflink is here | 16:01 | |
| adamw | morning all | 16:02 |
| * jreznik is here | 16:03 | |
| adamw | #topic previous meeting follow-up | 16:05 |
| adamw | #chair kparal tflink | 16:05 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink | 16:05 |
| * pschindl is here | 16:05 | |
| adamw | "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo" | 16:05 |
| * adamw doesn't quite recall what that was in relation to, tflink? | 16:06 | |
| tflink | this was people using the siderepo on my fedorapeople account for actual upgrades, not just upgrade testing | 16:06 |
| tflink | I added a warning to the wiki page containing the url to that repo | 16:07 |
| kparal | tflink: which page? | 16:07 |
| adamw | oh right. good | 16:08 |
| tflink | kparal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing | 16:08 |
| adamw | #info "tflink to clarify use of his fedup side repo" this was done - warning added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_18_Upgrade_Testing | 16:08 |
| adamw | "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" | 16:09 |
| kparal | ah, that's the one I couldn't find today | 16:09 |
| tflink | which is horribly out of date at this point | 16:09 |
| adamw | we appear to be be short one viking this morning, but lemme check the archives | 16:09 |
| adamw | i don't see anything relating to this in the docs list archive | 16:10 |
| adamw | #info "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking-ice not present, no indication in docs list archive that this was done | 16:10 |
| adamw | let's roll the action item over for next week | 16:10 |
| adamw | #action viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes | 16:10 |
| adamw | "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production" | 16:11 |
| adamw | this is done. the pause at the start of the meeting was not IN ANY WAY AT ALL to do with me doing this. *koff* | 16:11 |
| adamw | #info "adamw to put packaging error criterion revision into production" - this is done | 16:11 |
| adamw | "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - i believe this was in relation to kickstart | 16:12 |
| kparal | yes, I replied to the test list and I'll revive the thread and notify anaconda-devel once F18 is out | 16:12 |
| adamw | coolbeans | 16:13 |
| adamw | #info "kparal to follow up on test@ discussion to explain the plan, and let anaconda team know" - kparal has this in hand, test@ was notified | 16:13 |
| adamw | #topic Fedora 18 Final status and blocker review | 16:14 |
| adamw | #info TC2 is out | 16:14 |
| adamw | #info there is a signed shim and various other changes (new anaconda included) we need to get into a TC3 today | 16:14 |
| tflink | I think that both releng and I had issues getting TC3 (ish) to build | 16:14 |
| adamw | #info blocker list is still considerable, i will send out a blocker status mail later today | 16:14 |
| adamw | yeah, i know, that's why it didn't happen yet | 16:15 |
| adamw | lorax complaining about nothing providing shim even though shim-signed does, right? | 16:15 |
| tflink | ok, I didn't end up figuring out why a smoke build didn't work but it sounded like dgilmore understood what was going on a bit better than I did | 16:15 |
| adamw | i don't know why no-one just slapped together a lorax that looked for shim-signed, but hey. | 16:15 |
| tflink | I haven't looked at it since friday night, don't remember 100% ATM | 16:15 |
| adamw | so anyway, we'll clear that up today and get rolling | 16:15 |
| dgilmore | tflink: i know whats going on should have a fix soon | 16:16 |
| adamw | dgilmore: cool, thanks | 16:16 |
| tflink | dgilmore: awesome to hear | 16:16 |
| adamw | #info dgilmore is on top of tc3 compose problems | 16:16 |
| dgilmore | should have it this morning | 16:16 |
| adamw | we also have concerns about fedup secure/media-based upgrades, though i guess we can kick that to fesco | 16:17 |
| tflink | I have a subtopic before we move on to blocker review | 16:17 |
| adamw | ok | 16:17 |
| tflink | which is blocker/NTH review - I'm starting to wonder if we just need to have daily meetings until we get through them all since we're so close to release | 16:18 |
| tflink | ... and remove all sharp/dangerous objects from the people in those meetings | 16:18 |
| tflink | s/from/from around/ | 16:19 |
| adamw | it's a terrible idea but better than any other terrible idea i can think of. | 16:19 |
| adamw | we at least need to knock off all the proposed blockers. | 16:19 |
| tflink | I don't like it either but I don't have a better solution right now | 16:19 |
| tflink | I really don't like the idea that we're not through the list this late | 16:19 |
| adamw | btw, a chunk of stuff on the proposed nth list is related, if you didn't catch that - dledford proposed a chunk of bugs related to two updates as nth | 16:19 |
| adamw | yeah, no, i agree | 16:19 |
| adamw | anyone have a less awful idea? | 16:20 |
| tflink | I don't really understand most of them, though - I assume you're talking about the rdma bugs? | 16:20 |
| tflink | ifcfg-ib etc. | 16:21 |
| adamw | yeah. we can talk about that when we get to it anyhow, but when we do, we should take 'em as a pack | 16:21 |
| tflink | unfortunately, I'm not hearing any counter-proposals :( | 16:23 |
| adamw | nope, so bureaucracy it is. | 16:23 |
| adamw | #info there will be daily blocker/nth review meetings this week to try and get through the backlog | 16:23 |
| tflink | on the bright side, I don't think that many NTHs will provoke long discussion | 16:24 |
| adamw | if we ever get to 'em. | 16:24 |
| jreznik | for fedup, I just sent wwoods email to clarify media based upgrades... | 16:24 |
| adamw | so, any other general f18 status concerns/thoughts? | 16:24 |
| adamw | #info jreznik trying to clarify media-based upgrade status with wwoods | 16:24 |
| tflink | does being ready for release as planned count? | 16:25 |
| adamw | heh. | 16:25 |
| adamw | actually, shall we do what we did last week, and close this meeting before we do blocker review? | 16:26 |
| adamw | i just had open floor listed after this | 16:26 |
| tflink | works for me | 16:26 |
| kparal | adamw: +1 | 16:27 |
| adamw | okay then | 16:27 |
| adamw | #info we'll finish this meeting then go on to blocker review in #fedora-qa | 16:27 |
| adamw | #topic Open floor | 16:27 |
| adamw | so...any other business? | 16:27 |
| adamw | apparently not! | 16:30 |
| adamw | i know this cycle is getting wearing...still, finish line is kinda in sight | 16:30 |
| jreznik | pygobject3 | 16:30 |
| adamw | oh, for firewalld? | 16:30 |
| adamw | it's on the NTH list, right? | 16:30 |
| jreznik | no | 16:30 |
| adamw | yes | 16:31 |
| jreznik | that's why I raised it now (or I'm just blind) | 16:31 |
| adamw | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874378 | 16:31 |
| adamw | put that one on the nth-high-priority list tflink? | 16:31 |
| adamw | actually it'd be good to weed an NTH high-priority list in today's review | 16:31 |
| jreznik | ok, it's still marked as firewalld | 16:31 |
| adamw | jreznik: there are two bugs | 16:31 |
| adamw | i picked that one for nth nomination more or less at random | 16:32 |
| jreznik | adamw: yep, high prio as fesco request this to be in final | 16:32 |
| adamw | tflink: i think i already pulled in some proposed NTH fixes to TC requests, so be good to sign off on those | 16:32 |
| adamw | tflink: so, blocker review starting in -qa in a couple of minutes? | 16:32 |
| tflink | -bugzappers | 16:32 |
| Viking-Ice | Sorry was dealing with few issues @dayjob | 16:32 |
| adamw | ah | 16:32 |
| jreznik | and thanks goes to halfline, the only one who offered the help to fix it :) | 16:32 |
| adamw | Viking-Ice: what's the status of your notifying-docs-team-about-advanced-storage action item? | 16:33 |
| Viking-Ice | adamw, I open a bug against documentation which is afaik the proper procedure to do so | 16:33 |
| adamw | ah, cool | 16:34 |
| Viking-Ice | 885808 | 16:34 |
| adamw | #info on action item "viking-ice to let docs team know about advanced storage for release notes" - viking opened a bug, 885808 | 16:34 |
| adamw | i'm not gonna #undo all the way back there, but count it as done, i won't put it on next week's follow-up list | 16:34 |
| Viking-Ice | I expect the docs team to take it from there | 16:35 |
| adamw | blocker review in -bugzappers in a few minutes, everyone | 16:35 |
| * adamw sets fuse for 2 minutes | 16:35 | |
| adamw | Viking-Ice: yup, sounds right to me | 16:35 |
| * jreznik is going to take a quick snack before blocker review | 16:35 | |
| * Viking-Ice returns to work | 16:35 | |
| jsmith | jreznik: Good idea :-) | 16:36 |
| adamw | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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