fudcon apac 2014 cfp decision
9:03 PM <alick> #startmeeting FUDCon APAC 2014 CFP decision
9:04 PM <alick> #topic CFD decision
9:04 PM <alick> I want to mention some guideline in my mind.
9:04 PM <zsun> I think zodbot is not here today
9:04 PM <zsun> okay
9:05 PM <alick> I did a rough count, find about 15 foreign, and 15 Chinese speakers.
9:05 PM <alick> #idea the number of acceptance of foreign and Chinese speakers should be more or less the same.
9:05 PM <alick> that means, 11 for each group.
9:06 PM <zsun> 11 topic each
9:06 PM — zsun wondering how to move zodbot here
9:07 PM <alick> #idea lightning talk is not counted in the total number (22)
9:07 PM <zsun> okay
9:07 PM <alick> zsun: oops, zodbot disappeared?
9:07 PM <zsun> yes
9:08 PM <alick> it disappear in #fedora-zh too
9:08 PM <zsun> so, maybe server outage
9:08 PM <alick> yeah, I think I have some client log enabled.
9:09 PM <zsun> so we can continue as well
9:10 PM <alick> ok, let's continue.
9:10 PM <alick> tonghuix: here?
9:10 PM <tonghuix> yes
9:10 PM <alick> let's check submission in row 3.
9:11 PM <alick> Nitesh Narayan Lal: Fedora Videos
9:11 PM <zsun> I vote +1 for Fedora Videos
9:12 PM <zsun> but have some consern
9:12 PM <alick> the speaker has other two submissions
9:12 PM <alick> let's check them all.
9:12 PM <zsun> okay
9:13 PM <alick> * Omega - A Universe Over IP
9:13 PM <zsun> Row8 and Row 25
9:13 PM <alick> * 25: Omega - A Universe Over IP
9:13 PM <alick> oops
9:13 PM <alick> * 25: Fedora Women
9:13 PM <zsun> Row 25 Fedora Women
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9:15 PM <alick> I'd like to vote for Fedora Women,
9:15 PM <alick> since it is one of not many topics about community growing.
9:15 PM <zsun> I read through all the info he/she provided. And I vote +1 for Fedora Videos with concerns, Omega-A Universe Over IP for -1 since it is too general and +1 for Fedora Women
9:16 PM <alick> zsun: plz share your concern
9:16 PM <alick> I intend to give Fedora Videos a 0.
9:16 PM <alick> tonghuix: how about you?
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9:17 PM <zsun> As is said, he will involve the crowd. first, will he/she speak English or Chinese?
9:17 PM <tonghuix> +1 to zsun
9:18 PM <zsun> And second, will the crowd easy to follow his action?
9:18 PM <zsun> EOF
9:19 PM <zsun> +1 only because I think it is a good way to introduce the Video project for the general since video is easy for freshman to follow
9:19 PM <alick> tonghuix: what's your vote on Fedora Videos?
9:20 PM <alick> mine will be: videos 0, Omega -1, Women +1.
9:20 PM <tonghuix> I prefer +1 to FV
9:20 PM <alick> ok, so Fedora Videos get +1
9:20 PM <zsun> Omega is -1 *2 now ,so get -1?
9:21 PM <alick> #agreed Nitesh Narayan Lal: Fedora Videos +1, Omega -1, Fedora Women +1
9:21 PM <alick> zsun: I think so.
9:22 PM <zsun> okay
9:22 PM <alick> Now let's check Ankur Sinha's four proposals.
9:22 PM <alick> * Contributing to Fedora QA in 15 minutes Workshop (training)
9:22 PM <alick> * A GPG key signing party Workshop (training)
9:22 PM <alick> * An update on Fedora.next Standard speech
9:23 PM <alick> * Packaging a ROS Groovy SCL for Fedora Hackfest
9:23 PM <tonghuix> I prefer GPG key and ROS
9:23 PM <zsun> +1 for QA, 0 for GPG Key, 0 for Fedora Next and +1 for Packaging
9:24 PM <zsun> and Alick?
9:25 PM <alick> tonghuix: what about the other two, -1 (decline) or 0 (decide later)?
9:26 PM <tonghuix> fedora QA - 0 , Fedora next - -1
9:26 PM <alick> mine: QA -1, GPG +1, Fedora.next +1, packaging +1
9:26 PM <alick> let's take the summation.
9:26 PM <zsun> so now Packaging agreed
9:27 PM <alick> and GPG key
9:27 PM <zsun> QA 0, GPG 2 Fedora.Next 0
9:28 PM <zsun> no more idea from me. Agree with the result
9:28 PM <alick> #idea we can encourage him to make the other two lightning talks.
9:28 PM <zsun> Agreed with the idea as well:)
9:28 PM <alick> #agreed Ankur Sinha: Packaging ROS hackfest +1, GPG key workshop +1
9:29 PM <alick> #agreed Ankur Sinha: Fedora.next 0, QA 0 (might be lightning talks)
9:29 PM <alick> so next one: Aditya Patawari
9:29 PM <alick> * Building Orchestration and Configuration with Ansible at Fedora Project
9:30 PM <alick> * Running Docker on FedoraWorkshop (training)
9:30 PM <zsun> +1 for Ansible and 0 for Docker, since there are several talking about Docker/LXC
9:31 PM <alick> yeah quite several about docker/lxc/continous delivery
9:32 PM <alick> zsun: mine decision is the same with you
9:32 PM <alick> so we can state the result, I think.
9:33 PM <zsun> okay
9:33 PM <alick> #agreed Aditya Patawari: Ansible +1, Docker workshop 0.
9:33 PM <alick> Next: 李建盛
9:33 PM <alick> * Write or Translate Fedora Documents by publican and zanataWorkshop (training)
9:33 PM <alick> * oVirt deep diveStandard speech
9:34 PM <zsun> So many L10N as well
9:34 PM <tonghuix> -1 for both
9:34 PM <alick> is oVirt available on Fedora?
9:35 PM <zsun> -1 for his L10N and 0 for oVirt
9:35 PM <zsun> Yes, oVirt is based on Fedora
9:35 PM <zsun> but I still wonder whether the oVirt topic is too general?
9:36 PM <alick> as a common guideline, I think we should have at least some general topics,
9:36 PM <alick> to make it a bit diverse, and share topic with GNOME
9:36 PM <zsun> so I vote 0 since the topic itself seems okay.
9:37 PM <alick> mine: publican +1, oVirt 0
9:37 PM <alick> #agreed 李建盛 Fedora Documents -1, oVirt 0
9:38 PM — alick thinks publican topic is ok, but anyway.
9:38 PM <alick> Next: Patrick Huang
9:38 PM <alick> * Zanata - open source translation management system
9:39 PM <alick> This is from a Red Hat guy.
9:39 PM <zsun> I vote +1 for this L10N topic
9:40 PM <zsun> (I read through all the samaliar topic together, so just decide which is better from my side.)
9:40 PM <alick> zsun: can you list them here for reference?
9:40 PM <zsun> s/samaliar/similar
9:40 PM <zsun> wait a minute
9:41 PM <alick> The above publican, this one, and ?
9:42 PM <zsun> *11 Patrick Huang Zanata ; *26 Tommy He A life of Translator, *33 Robert Lijun Li *36 Tiansword, *42 Pwu
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9:43 PM <zsun> In my opinion, these topics are on the same or similar area
9:44 PM <alick> I think I prefer #33 to this one.
9:44 PM <alick> so mine will be -1.
9:44 PM <alick> what about you, tonghuix ?
9:44 PM <zsun> I agree with #33
9:45 PM <tonghuix> e....
9:45 PM <tonghuix> hard to decide
9:45 PM <alick> it is up to you now...
9:45 PM <zsun> I think we can talk about only 11 atm and vote for #11 only
9:45 PM <alick> yes
9:45 PM <alick> we for now just vote for #11.
9:45 PM <zsun> oh, sorry, I vote 0 for this not +1
9:46 PM <alick> ? plz make it clear.
9:46 PM <zsun> typo . I read the wrong line on my paper
9:46 PM <zsun> I mean , I vote 0 for #11
9:46 PM <alick> ok, tonghuix ?
9:46 PM <zsun> I printed all the title and voted last night on paper. And just now I read the wrong line
9:46 PM <tonghuix> +1 to 36
9:47 PM <alick> tonghuix: let's decide on #11 at the moment,
9:47 PM <alick> ignore other similar ones.
9:47 PM <zsun> OT, zodbot is back but still not work. I tried in #fedora-zh just now
9:48 PM — alick bot is sick.
9:48 PM <tonghuix> 0 to 11
9:48 PM <alick> ok
9:48 PM <zsun> so -1 for #11 now
9:48 PM <zsun> in total
9:48 PM <alick> #agreed Patrick Huang: Zanata 0
9:49 PM <alick> zsun: it has two 0, and one -1. it is better to be 0 in total.
9:49 PM <zsun> I understand now
9:49 PM <zsun> then #14?
9:49 PM <alick> So next: Neependra Khare
9:50 PM <alick> * Linux containers (LXC) and future of software deliverWorkshop (training)
9:50 PM <zsun> I vote 0
9:50 PM <tonghuix> -1
9:51 PM <alick> 0 for now.
9:51 PM <alick> there will be similar topic to follow.
9:52 PM <alick> #agreed Neependra Khare: LXC 0
9:52 PM <alick> Next: Tommy He
9:52 PM <alick> * A Life of Translator
9:53 PM <alick> He is a Chinese ambassador, translator.
9:53 PM <zsun> hey, #15?
9:53 PM <alick> oh, i copyed the wrong line...
9:53 PM <zsun> Jenkins CI from Praveen Kumar
9:54 PM <alick> zsun: you are right.
9:54 PM — alick the big table is not easy to traverse...
9:54 PM <zsun> luckily I printed this on A4 paper
9:55 PM <zsun> I prefer 0 for #15
9:55 PM <alick> what's your opinion, we have accepted one about ansible.
9:55 PM <tonghuix> +1
9:56 PM <alick> mine is -1.
9:56 PM <alick> so overall it get 0.
9:56 PM <zsun> okay
9:56 PM <alick> #agreed Praveen Kumar: Jenkins CI 0
9:56 PM <alick> Next: Rui-bin Li
9:56 PM <alick> * Fedora on Loongson, or MIPS
9:57 PM <zsun> I vote +1
9:57 PM <alick> +1 from me too
9:57 PM <zsun> tonghuix your turn now
9:58 PM <alick> #agreed Rui-bin Li: Fedora on Loongson or MIPS +1
9:58 PM <zsun> okay
9:58 PM <alick> tonghuix's does not matter now...
9:58 PM <tonghuix> +1
9:58 PM <alick> tonghuix: ok
9:58 PM <zsun> :-D
9:58 PM <alick> Next: Buddhike Kurera
9:58 PM <alick> five ones to follow
9:58 PM <alick> * GSoC with FedoraStandard speech
9:59 PM <alick> * Fedora FreemediaStandard speech
9:59 PM <alick> * Python with FedoraWorkshop (training)
9:59 PM <alick> * Start a relationship with OSS projectStandard speech
9:59 PM <alick> * Python with FedoraWorkshop (training)
9:59 PM <alick> actually it should be four. There's one duplicate.
10:00 PM — alick this should be the last one (or more) to be decided tonight.
10:00 PM <zsun> +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS
10:01 PM <alick> -1 for GSoC, -1 for Freemedia, -1 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS
10:01 PM <alick> I recommend GSoc topic merged into OSS.
10:01 PM <zsun> agree with this advise
10:01 PM <alick> tonghuix: you?
10:02 PM <tonghuix> same as zsun, +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS
10:02 PM <zsun> so, OSS is +1 now
10:03 PM <alick> so the result is same with yours.
10:03 PM <alick> #agreed Buddhike Kurera: +1 for GSoC, 0 for Freemedia, 0 for Py with Fedora, +1 for OSS
10:04 PM <zsun> I think we should speed up more since we still have over a half to decide
10:04 PM <alick> en
10:05 PM <alick> what about my merging gsoc into OSS idea?
10:05 PM <zsun> agree with this advise
10:06 PM <alick> but we have two +1 now.
10:06 PM <zsun> so tonghuix how about you?
10:06 PM <zsun> merge or leave it as-is
10:07 PM <tonghuix> ok
10:07 PM <tonghuix> merge
10:07 PM <alick> I'll add the info into "note" column
10:07 PM <zsun> then all agreed with merging the two together.
10:07 PM <zsun> okay
10:07 PM <alick> So that's all for today.
10:08 PM <zsun> thanks
10:09 PM <alick> #info we voted nine +1, eleven 0, and one -1.
10:09 PM <zsun> so we all prefer 0 in voting atm:P
10:10 PM <alick> I think the figure is good so far.
10:10 PM <alick> we can only accept about half of them.
10:10 PM <alick> will end meeting today
10:10 PM <alick> #endmeeting
10:11 PM — alick although it was not really started...
10:11 PM <zsun> hope zodbot will be well soon
10:11 PM <alick> I mentioned we need to send out the notification before Mar 24.
10:12 PM <alick> at least for the ones submitted before Mar 14.
10:12 PM <zsun> well, I think maybe you marked one wrong?
10:12 PM <zsun> I just have 8 in total on my paper
10:12 PM <alick> zsun: oh?
10:12 PM <alick> plz check the table
10:13 PM <alick> zsun: there is one at #25
10:13 PM <zsun> #8 Omega -1 in IRC log but +1 in sheet
10:14 PM <zsun> I have the #25 on my paper ticked
10:14 PM <alick> oh yes, that should be a typo.
10:14 PM — zsun hard to read the log without zodbot
10:15 PM <alick> plz check if there are more wrongs.
10:16 PM <zsun> so now finished and already sync on my paper as well.
10:16 PM <zsun> I've checked
10:17 PM — zsun leaving the lab soon
10:17 PM <alick> thx very much
10:18 PM <alick> bye
10:18 PM <alick> see you tomorrow
10:18 PM <zsun> OT zodbot still not working.
10:18 PM <zsun> bye al