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Bug Triage Meeting :: 2008-11-18
Attendees
- poelcat
- jds2001
- John5342
- tk009
Summary
- Reviewed wording here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora10#Added_Comment_2
- Need to confirm EOL date for Fedora 8
- jds2001 to take up at FESCo meeting
- poelcat filed tickets with RHT Engineering Operations for 'rawhide rebase' and 'Fedora 8 EOL warning'
- will adjust 'rawhide rebase' query to only pick up bugs created before 2008-11-25
IRC Transcript
| jds2001 | poelcat: you about? | 07:00 |
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| -!- poelcat changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Bug Triage Meeting | 07:02 | |
| poelcat | jds2001: yes :) | 07:02 |
| poelcat | anyone else here? | 07:02 |
| John5342 | hello all. | 07:02 |
| poelcat | hey John5342 | 07:02 |
| tk009 | hello | 07:03 |
| poelcat | tk009: hi | 07:03 |
| * jds2001 has a $DAYJOB meeting at 10:30 :( | 07:04 | |
| poelcat | jds2001: okay, we'll make this quick | 07:04 |
| poelcat | any important items of business to cover? | 07:04 |
| poelcat | there didn't appear to be ANY response to your message jds2001 about the rawhide rebase | 07:05 |
| poelcat | did i miss something? | 07:05 |
| jds2001 | I don't think so. | 07:05 |
| jds2001 | of course they'll scream bloody murder when it happens, but oh well. | 07:06 |
| poelcat | any feedback on the wording here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora10#Added_Comment_2 | 07:09 |
| poelcat | we'll be applying that to all Fedora 8 bugs next Wednesday | 07:10 |
| jds2001 | looks good to me | 07:11 |
| John5342 | looks good to me too | 07:11 |
| poelcat | also any other topics to discuss today? | 07:11 |
| jds2001 | did we come to a conclusion on when F8 EOL *is*? | 07:11 |
| * poelcat is light on topics having just got back from vacation | 07:11 | |
| poelcat | jds2001: i don't think we did | 07:11 |
| poelcat | jds2001: who ultimately decides, do you know? | 07:12 |
| jds2001 | i think fesco/releng??? | 07:12 |
| * jds2001 will make sure it gets brought up at fesco tomorrow | 07:13 | |
| poelcat | jds2001: great! | 07:13 |
| poelcat | btw I filed the tickets with rht eng-ops and made sure they can run them | 07:13 |
| poelcat | shouldn't be a problem | 07:13 |
| jds2001 | cool, for a 1/5 date? | 07:14 |
| poelcat | well, i only told them about the first two so far :) | 07:14 |
| poelcat | which need to run next week | 07:14 |
| poelcat | i'm pretty sure they'll be cool w/ the last one | 07:14 |
| poelcat | jds2001: would it be possible to add a little more detail to the rawhide rebase query | 07:15 |
| poelcat | so that it is all open rawhide bugs created before a certain date/time ? | 07:15 |
| poelcat | that way it doesn't have to run at exactly a certain moment | 07:16 |
| jds2001 | yeah, that shouldnt be a problem. | 07:16 |
| poelcat | jds2001: could you do it? | 07:17 |
| jds2001 | poelcat: sorry, not a problem. | 07:18 |
| jds2001 | what are they expecting, just verbage or an actual query? | 07:18 |
| * jds2001 can do either :) | 07:19 | |
| poelcat | jds2001: a link/tinyurl to the query | 07:19 |
| jds2001 | ok | 07:19 |
| jds2001 | and the querry is for anything prior to 11/25, right? | 07:19 |
| * jds2001 wants to make sure he gets the date right :) | 07:20 | |
| poelcat | this is what gets tricky... what about bugs filed up until 10 am est on 11/25 ? | 07:20 |
| poelcat | or maybe i'm making this more complicated than it needs to be | 07:21 |
| jds2001 | yeah, if we miss a few no biggie :) | 07:21 |
| John5342 | we could eve make the date the day after on the basis that rawhide stuff then will most likely still apply to f10 but maybe that has its own issues. | 07:22 |
| jds2001 | yeah doesnt really matter i dont think | 07:24 |
| poelcat | given a choice i'd say a 11/24 cutoff is better | 07:24 |
| John5342 | besides anything from the time f10 is spun to the time it actually hits mirrors is a bit of a grey area as to which it belongs to | 07:24 |
| tk009 | altho new here I also agree 11/24 is better | 07:25 |
| jds2001 | f10 should start hitting mirrors pretty quick here. | 07:26 |
| poelcat | okay, let's do 11/24 | 07:27 |
| jds2001 | though i've not seen announcements yet to mirror-list..... | 07:27 |
| poelcat | i'll update our procedures to be more specific so we don't have to discuss this next time :) | 07:27 |
| poelcat | tk009: did you have any questions about bug triage, etc.? | 07:27 |
| jds2001 | sounds good :) | 07:28 |
| tk009 | yes =) | 07:28 |
| tk009 | I was going to email jds later about them | 07:28 |
| jds2001 | either here or email is fine :) | 07:29 |
| tk009 | being new I am not really sure where to start | 07:29 |
| jds2001 | though I have a $DAYJOB meeting right about now :) | 07:29 |
| tk009 | yes later later =) | 07:29 |
| John5342 | tk009: can also ask people in #fedora-qa. there is normally somebody from bugzappers there | 07:30 |
| poelcat | tk009: have you reviewed this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/GettingStarted | 07:32 |
| tk009 | yes I have | 07:32 |
| poelcat | what questions do you have about getting started? | 07:34 |
| poelcat | this is a common thing we hear, but we aren't sure why | 07:35 |
| tk009 | just not sure where to jump in really | 07:35 |
| tk009 | I've had a look at the bug lists | 07:35 |
| tk009 | but not sure on procedure | 07:36 |
| John5342 | might be an excellent time for a quick group triaging session perhaps? get a few examples in? | 07:36 |
| tk009 | I'd be up for it | 07:37 |
| poelcat | tk009: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/TakingAction #1 is where we spend most of our time | 07:37 |
| poelcat | John5342: would you like to lead? | 07:38 |
| John5342 | maybe tk009 would like to pick a bug or should i pick on at random | 07:39 |
| tk009 | ramdom would be better | 07:39 |
| tk009 | is there a specific list I should be looking at? | 07:40 |
| tk009 | like blockers | 07:40 |
| John5342 | here is a random one https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464382 | 07:41 |
| buggbot | Bug 464382: medium, medium, ---, pjones@redhat.com, NEW, doesn't work with the latest dmraid | 07:41 |
| John5342 | tk009: main ones to look at at the moment are rawhide bugs although that will soon change ofcourse | 07:42 |
| tk009 | looking at 464382 now | 07:42 |
| John5342 | and i have to say this is a really good start because i am not sure about this one myself. lol. | 07:44 |
| John5342 | good things to check first is that it is filed against the correct component | 07:44 |
| tk009 | and how is that done | 07:45 |
| tk009 | ah I see it in taking action | 07:46 |
| John5342 | the user will file it against what they think and looking at the error message it suggests python-pyblock or dmraid | 07:47 |
| John5342 | which means the user may well be right. i dont often see people file against the wrong component but if it is wrong it saves the (wrong) maintainer time and gets it to the right person quicker | 07:48 |
| John5342 | we also make sure its against the right version. rawhide in this case which seems correct | 07:49 |
| John5342 | have you got the greasemonkey scripts by the way? | 07:49 |
| tk009 | =( I didn't install them yet | 07:50 |
| tk009 | I need to | 07:50 |
| John5342 | you dont need to as such but they do simplify things standard responses. | 07:51 |
| John5342 | the scripts run in firefox. just install the greasemoneky addon and then click on the Script link. both links are on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tools | 07:55 |
| John5342 | as for the bug i think all we can say is that it is a bug and that it seams to be with the correct people. it also appears to have enough info for the maintainer to reproduce it. therefore i would personally set it as assigned | 07:56 |
| * poelcat needs to leave a little early | 07:56 | |
| poelcat | thanks everyone for coming! | 07:56 |
| poelcat | i'll be around later if there are other questions | 07:57 |
| John5342 | i think there is another meeting comeing in a sec anyway. cheers poelcat | 07:57 |
| tk009 | should we go to qa? | 07:58 |
| John5342 | tk009: people should starting the next meeting here in a min so you can find me in #fedora-qa if you want any more info ad can also ask jds2001 and any others. | 07:58 |
| John5342 | snap | 07:58 |
| tk009 | =) | 07:59 |
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