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<h1>IRC Log - FDSCo - 2008-02-27</h1>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40"><meeting></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Welcome to the Fedora Docs Meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Roll Call</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">John Babich</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">Bart Couvreur</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Dimitris Glezos</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">stickster, quaid, BobJensen: ping</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">quaid gave his apology earlier - he's not feeling well...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">stickster may join us later...he has a meeting</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">BobJensen's taking care of family business...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: ping</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">OK, please see the agenda at <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Item #1: Any update on one-page summary?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">JonRob asked about it on the marketing-list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">will be a part of the markteting meeting this week, afaik</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">couf: I can't find the reference, but I'll take your word on it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">ow, hang on</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e"><a href="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-February/msg00433.html">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-February/msg00433.html</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">couf: thanks</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">I'm in favor of letting marketing do the first write-ups and we go in after to do some wordsmithing etc</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Any other comments on item #1?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Hey I am Here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: welcome</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">OK, how about item #2 - update on active content - Release notes?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Ties in with beta freeze, I would imagine</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">So, moving on...DUG / AG / SMG</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">IG: I have no updates this week, I have been learning emacs and vi trying to find an editor before I start digging in</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: OK</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">same here: no updates</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">DUG: No update - I'm ready to attempt Publican to do some DocBook conversion, after some editing</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">OK, crypto?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">Last I heard on crypto, Sparks was still working on it in the wiki</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: I'm happy to help with DocBook conversion on DUG, fwiw</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: Thanks, as long as I can take part in it, because I need to improve my skills at DocBook</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: Absolutely!  I'll just play the role as mentor, answering questions as you get stuck</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: Thanks</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Moving on - ConsoleKit/PolicyKit inclusion beat</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">To do this week, BobJensen needs to get an email out for Beats content</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I saw some blogging on it </td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Yeah I am going to start blogging this week</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: excellent</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Set Chair/Leader - should we tackle this now or wait on it?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">vice chair</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: Before we jump to that, can we mention SMG?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jsmith: yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith:  +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I'm still waiting on feedback on the SMG transition from Wiki to CVS</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">(technically, it should be in good shape... it could use some wordsmithing in a few places, but the docbook should be pretty solid)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I was hoping to get some of the more experienced members of the team to make sure I haven't totally screwed up</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: I can review it for typos, style, etc. if you like</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: OK, that would be great.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I'll try to get quaid or stickster to review the DocBook</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">That's all I had ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: Are you familiar with the CVS procedures?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: Yes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: good</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: I've already done the conversion to DocBook and checked the changes into CVS</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: (in the yum-management-guide module)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: good++</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">What I'm not super-familiar with is the tool chain</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">(and nuances of various DocBook tags and how you guys use them)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">But yes, I'm very familiar with CVS and DocBook in general</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Leadership?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: I'm not an expert, but I'm a little familiar with the tags  - po files are another story</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: Since you mentioned it...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Do we have enough here for quorum?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Let's see - roll call time again</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">John babich</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">couf glezos jmbuser BobJensen jsmith</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">Jared Smith</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">that should be 5 enough for a confirmation</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Bob Jensen</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">did we lose glezos and couf</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">glezos: ping</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">EvilBob: I'm here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">couf: ping</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1 for converting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">pong, wifi dropped a bit</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">It looks like a quorum...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I would like to motion for a vote confirming jmbuser as our new Vice Chair/Future leader</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I second the motion</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">All those in favor of John Babich leading the prject in the future please respond with a +1</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">(abstains)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">um</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">what does "in the future" mean? :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">glezos: 6 onths as vice chair, learning the ropes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">glezos: then a 1 year term as chair</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">glezos: the last 6 months training the next chair</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">EvilBob: maybe we might want to have quaid and stickster around for such a vote?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I think it should clear that assumes continued involvement and re-election</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">glezos: they are in agreement</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">FWIW, I think it's great to have jmbuser for VC :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">If I really screw up, you can kick me out :-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1 then</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jsmith: do you care to vote?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">Obviously, since I seconded the motion</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">+1</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">we have the required 4 + votes to confirm</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser: Congrats</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">jmbuser: I'm sure you'll do well, the work you've done so far is fantastic</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">congrats jmbuser</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Thanks - I really appreciate the confidence you guys have in me - I hope to continue to live up to it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">It's always a team effort</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">EvilBob</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I have to bug out at this point, Mom is getting annoyed</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">Thanks EvilBob</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EvilBob: see you later, thanks</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Referring back to the agenda,  any more thoughts on Publican?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I'm still happy to show people how to get started, but I'm still just scratching the surface</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">I've done three or four different docs in it now</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">and even figured out how to get PDFs out of it (mostly)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">glezos</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">jmbuser: good job</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">glezos: thanks</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jsmith: I saw you were quoted in the Red Hat Magazine article...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">jsmith</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">jmbuser: Yeah... stickster has been dropping my name again, like I'm some sort of rock star</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">glezos: How about Publican - Does it fit in well with Transiifex?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">s / Transiifex / Transifex /</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">If nothing else, any other business before we close?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">couf</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">not from me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">OK, the countdown begins...</td></tr>
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