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* previous meeting [[I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-03]]
* previous meeting [[I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-03]]
** ibus-anthy
** ibus-anthy
** buglist review
* buglist review
* ibus remote script
* xkb


Next meeting [[I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-17]]
Next meeting [[I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-17]]


bug lists: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED core] [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^ibus-.*&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED IMEs]
bug lists: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED core] [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^ibus-.*&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED IMEs] [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=imsettings,im-chooser&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED imsettings] [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^scim.*&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED scim]


== Summary==
== Summary==
* ibus-anthy still needs work current setup seems to be UI skeleton
* reassigned ibus-anthy to Jens
* talked about several bugs
* libhangul updated to 0.0.9
* new ibus build in f11 updates-testing
* some discussion on xkb and keymap branch


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===


== Log ==
== Log ==
{|
|- id="tJun 10 15:09:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | [[I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-10]]
|| [[#tJun 10 15:09:10|Jun 10 15:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ping phuang, tagoh3, dychen, paragan, pravins
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:14|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:21"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | hi
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:21|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I cooked up an agenda page...
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:27|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:39"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | Hi, juhp
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:39|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:45"
| colspan="2" | <--sflanigan has quit (Remote closed the connection)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:45|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:10:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | any particular other topics for today?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:10:46|Jun 10 15:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:12:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | perhaps we should go through the bug list today?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:12:40|Jun 10 15:12]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:12:51"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | hi
|| [[#tJun 10 15:12:51|Jun 10 15:12]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:12:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think all rawhide bugs were moved to f11
|| [[#tJun 10 15:12:57|Jun 10 15:12]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:14:27"
! style="background-color: #488888" | paragn
| style="color: #488888" | hi
|| [[#tJun 10 15:14:27|Jun 10 15:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:14:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libhangul-0.0.9-1.fc11 btw
|| [[#tJun 10 15:14:37|Jun 10 15:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:14:39"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hi juhp
|| [[#tJun 10 15:14:39|Jun 10 15:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:14:59"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, thanks
|| [[#tJun 10 15:14:59|Jun 10 15:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:20:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED
|| [[#tJun 10 15:20:14|Jun 10 15:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:20:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ah wait
|| [[#tJun 10 15:20:25|Jun 10 15:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:21:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | let's talk briefly about ibus-anthy first
|| [[#tJun 10 15:21:22|Jun 10 15:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:21:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: you said the Abe-san's latest code still not completely functional I guess?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:21:59|Jun 10 15:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:22:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | in ibus-anthy-setup I mean
|| [[#tJun 10 15:22:11|Jun 10 15:22]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:22:42"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | yep
|| [[#tJun 10 15:22:42|Jun 10 15:22]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:23:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | the setup UI looks ok but I guess maybe still needs some glue for state and gconf etc?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:23:26|Jun 10 15:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:23:32"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | well, keybindings list just contains keys for not-yet-implemented-feature
|| [[#tJun 10 15:23:32|Jun 10 15:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:23:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I didn't look at the code yet
|| [[#tJun 10 15:23:36|Jun 10 15:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:23:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 15:23:44|Jun 10 15:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:23:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | but presumably he is planning to do that
|| [[#tJun 10 15:23:57|Jun 10 15:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:24:35"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | dunno - it looked like borrowing list from scim-anthy though
|| [[#tJun 10 15:24:35|Jun 10 15:24]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:24:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 15:24:42|Jun 10 15:24]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:24:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | well hopefully anyway - guess it is a good start anyway
|| [[#tJun 10 15:24:53|Jun 10 15:24]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:25:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: do you see more important things missing from setup skeleton?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:25:15|Jun 10 15:25]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:26:09"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | not sure if it should be entered into setup but apparently we are missing dictionary stuff there
|| [[#tJun 10 15:26:09|Jun 10 15:26]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:26:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: right you mean kasumi support?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:26:32|Jun 10 15:26]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:26:38"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | since we no longer have a desktop entry for kasumi, it's really hard to do maintain anthy dictionary
|| [[#tJun 10 15:26:38|Jun 10 15:26]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:26:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | aha
|| [[#tJun 10 15:26:47|Jun 10 15:26]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:27:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I suppose we could bring back the desktop file in the meantime ;)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:27:03|Jun 10 15:27]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:27:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I dunno how commonly it is used?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:27:16|Jun 10 15:27]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:28:25"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: that's an idea - ideally better invoking that from IM side so that that would be intuitive
|| [[#tJun 10 15:28:25|Jun 10 15:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:28:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway should be hard to add a kasumi button
|| [[#tJun 10 15:28:27|Jun 10 15:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:28:41"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | shouldn't?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:28:41|Jun 10 15:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:28:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: does scim-anthy have a shortcut for it?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:28:54|Jun 10 15:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:28:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: right
|| [[#tJun 10 15:28:57|Jun 10 15:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:29:37"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: you mean keybinding? I thought it's only available from toolbar.
|| [[#tJun 10 15:29:37|Jun 10 15:29]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:29:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 15:29:42|Jun 10 15:29]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:31:09"
| colspan="2" | -->ifelix (n=felix@nat/redhat-in/x-6b260bda9a58c9e5) has joined #fedora-i18n
|| [[#tJun 10 15:31:09|Jun 10 15:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:31:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hope I did that right
|| [[#tJun 10 15:31:34|Jun 10 15:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:31:44"
| colspan="2" | *juhp updated ibus-anthy in pkgdb...
|| [[#tJun 10 15:31:44|Jun 10 15:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:31:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#tJun 10 15:31:51|Jun 10 15:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:36:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: btw you have a new ibus build in updates-testing I think?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:36:06|Jun 10 15:36]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:36:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED
|| [[#tJun 10 15:36:41|Jun 10 15:36]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:36:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah. I just built one today
|| [[#tJun 10 15:36:42|Jun 10 15:36]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:36:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | cool
|| [[#tJun 10 15:36:48|Jun 10 15:36]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:37:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | good for everyone to test that please
|| [[#tJun 10 15:37:01|Jun 10 15:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:37:32"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | But it does not include changes for resolving xkb conflict
|| [[#tJun 10 15:37:32|Jun 10 15:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:37:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sure
|| [[#tJun 10 15:37:53|Jun 10 15:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:37:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | good :)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:37:58|Jun 10 15:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:38:10"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | For xkb testing, need build from git tree keymaps branch
|| [[#tJun 10 15:38:10|Jun 10 15:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:38:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | any bugs anyone wants to raise?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:38:15|Jun 10 15:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:38:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: yep
|| [[#tJun 10 15:38:19|Jun 10 15:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:38:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: sure any xkb testing should be done in f12 :)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:38:31|Jun 10 15:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:38:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | or scratch builds of course :)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:38:41|Jun 10 15:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:39:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 486272
|| [[#tJun 10 15:39:54|Jun 10 15:39]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:39:58"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | zodbot
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: Bug 486272 need a hotmenu for focus-follows-mouse wm - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486272
|| [[#tJun 10 15:39:58|Jun 10 15:39]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:40:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: any more thoughts on this
|| [[#tJun 10 15:40:05|Jun 10 15:40]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:40:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | we have touched on it in a while
|| [[#tJun 10 15:40:15|Jun 10 15:40]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:40:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | haven't
|| [[#tJun 10 15:40:19|Jun 10 15:40]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:40:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dropping my not's today ;)
|| [[#tJun 10 15:40:30|Jun 10 15:40]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:41:22"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | I think we discussed it yesterday
|| [[#tJun 10 15:41:22|Jun 10 15:41]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:41:38"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | about the replace toolbar with sys menu
|| [[#tJun 10 15:41:38|Jun 10 15:41]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:42:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | aha
|| [[#tJun 10 15:42:15|Jun 10 15:42]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:42:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | tagoh3's comment of this bug
|| [[#tJun 10 15:42:18|Jun 10 15:42]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:42:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | well that was systray menu
|| [[#tJun 10 15:42:24|Jun 10 15:42]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:42:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | but that would work yes
|| [[#tJun 10 15:42:41|Jun 10 15:42]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:42:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hotkey to bring up menu
|| [[#tJun 10 15:42:54|Jun 10 15:42]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:43:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: so would the menus be combined in this case?
|| [[#tJun 10 15:43:18|Jun 10 15:43]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:43:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
|| [[#tJun 10 15:43:36|Jun 10 15:43]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:43:59"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | and the menu must be triggered by hotkey
|| [[#tJun 10 15:43:59|Jun 10 15:43]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:44:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#tJun 10 15:44:01|Jun 10 15:44]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:44:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | mouse clicking also has same problem
|| [[#tJun 10 15:44:18|Jun 10 15:44]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:44:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | agree - if we add support for toolbar actions in command menu then easier to do that part
|| [[#tJun 10 15:44:24|Jun 10 15:44]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:45:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | but first step might be to allow switching IME from hotmenu
|| [[#tJun 10 15:45:23|Jun 10 15:45]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:45:50"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | But I am afraid: If the mouse leaves the window, maybe ibus will has problem too
|| [[#tJun 10 15:45:50|Jun 10 15:45]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:48:47"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | Still thinking it is minor case. could be ignored
|| [[#tJun 10 15:48:47|Jun 10 15:48]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:54:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 491040
|| [[#tJun 10 15:54:35|Jun 10 15:54]]
|- id="tJun 10 15:54:40"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | zodbot
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: Bug 491040 candidate selection needs scrollbar and selection by mouse - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491040
|| [[#tJun 10 15:54:40|Jun 10 15:54]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:00:52"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, it is difficult to implement. All engines need changes to support it. :(
|| [[#tJun 10 16:00:52|Jun 10 16:00]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:01:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm
|| [[#tJun 10 16:01:16|Jun 10 16:01]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:01:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I see
|| [[#tJun 10 16:01:19|Jun 10 16:01]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:01:34"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | phuang: as talked you yesterday, selection by mouse will help ibus-rawcode also :)
|| [[#tJun 10 16:01:34|Jun 10 16:01]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:02:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | pravins, yeah. I will consider support it
|| [[#tJun 10 16:02:36|Jun 10 16:02]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:03:08"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | cool
|| [[#tJun 10 16:03:08|Jun 10 16:03]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:03:46"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | between i started working on .bug 501911
|| [[#tJun 10 16:03:46|Jun 10 16:03]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:03:47"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | I could add api for it. But if the engine want to support it, engine developers should add related code for it.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:03:47|Jun 10 16:03]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:04:05"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | sure
|| [[#tJun 10 16:04:05|Jun 10 16:04]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:04:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: how about PageUp/PageDown?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:04:06|Jun 10 16:04]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:04:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 501911
|| [[#tJun 10 16:04:16|Jun 10 16:04]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:04:21"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | zodbot
| style="color: #4b904b" | juhp: Bug 501911 [ibus][Indic] - ZWJ Candidate window not showing Hexadecimal values in list - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501911
|| [[#tJun 10 16:04:21|Jun 10 16:04]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:04:56"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | thanks phuang  for adding hex api in IbusLookuptabe
|| [[#tJun 10 16:04:56|Jun 10 16:04]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:05:35"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | could add pageup and pagedown buttons too
|| [[#tJun 10 16:05:35|Jun 10 16:05]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:05:45"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | s/IbusLookuptabe/IBusLookupTable
|| [[#tJun 10 16:05:45|Jun 10 16:05]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:06:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: not buttons
|| [[#tJun 10 16:06:17|Jun 10 16:06]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:06:24"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | yeah, will require that two
|| [[#tJun 10 16:06:24|Jun 10 16:06]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:06:40"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, ?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:06:40|Jun 10 16:06]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:06:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: keys :)
|| [[#tJun 10 16:06:44|Jun 10 16:06]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:06:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | same story?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:06:54|Jun 10 16:06]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:07:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | ibus always supports pagedown, pageup keys.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:07:18|Jun 10 16:07]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:07:21"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | I think
|| [[#tJun 10 16:07:21|Jun 10 16:07]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:07:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | in candidate list?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:07:34|Jun 10 16:07]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:07:45"
| colspan="2" | -->Kaio (n=Kaio@fedora/Kaio) has joined #fedora-i18n
|| [[#tJun 10 16:07:45|Jun 10 16:07]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:07:54"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | in your keyboard
|| [[#tJun 10 16:07:54|Jun 10 16:07]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:08:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: so not currently available I guess
|| [[#tJun 10 16:08:11|Jun 10 16:08]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:08:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | but no buttons on candidate window
|| [[#tJun 10 16:08:15|Jun 10 16:08]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:08:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think PageUp and PageDown is essential for candidate list
|| [[#tJun 10 16:08:28|Jun 10 16:08]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:08:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | not working for me anyway
|| [[#tJun 10 16:08:41|Jun 10 16:08]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:00"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | key does not work?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:00|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:04"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | which engine?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:04|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | no
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:05|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | PageUp/PageDown does not seem to do anything
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:18|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | is it just me?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:21|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:40"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp: it shows in ibus-rawcode
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:40|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:09:51"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | pravins
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | but i have not implemented function for that
|| [[#tJun 10 16:09:51|Jun 10 16:09]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:29|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | perhaps it is ibus-anthy?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:34|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | If the PageUp & PageDown keys do not work. It is the problem of engine.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:36|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so IME implements that
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:46|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:52"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:52|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:10:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:10:56|Jun 10 16:10]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:11:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm so everyone IME needs to implement that?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:11:10|Jun 10 16:11]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:13:05"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
|| [[#tJun 10 16:13:05|Jun 10 16:13]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:13:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm
|| [[#tJun 10 16:13:36|Jun 10 16:13]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:13:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:13:42|Jun 10 16:13]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:13:44"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | Some engines do not send the lookup table with all candidates
|| [[#tJun 10 16:13:44|Jun 10 16:13]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:13:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sure
|| [[#tJun 10 16:13:50|Jun 10 16:13]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:14:07"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | so can not implement in ibus
|| [[#tJun 10 16:14:07|Jun 10 16:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:14:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: pinyin is only showing 5 candidates at time? :)
|| [[#tJun 10 16:14:07|Jun 10 16:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:14:30"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | no. it is configurable
|| [[#tJun 10 16:14:30|Jun 10 16:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:14:55"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | and Pinyin will only send the current page to ibus-daemon
|| [[#tJun 10 16:14:55|Jun 10 16:14]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:15:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | because performance issue
|| [[#tJun 10 16:15:01|Jun 10 16:15]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:16:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:16:27|Jun 10 16:16]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:16:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | just thought 5 is not that many but anyway
|| [[#tJun 10 16:16:40|Jun 10 16:16]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:17:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok I think we need more contributions to ibus core from the team
|| [[#tJun 10 16:17:42|Jun 10 16:17]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:18:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
|| [[#tJun 10 16:18:06|Jun 10 16:18]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:18:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | if everyone took one ibus bug and submitted a patch it would help cut down the rfe list a lot
|| [[#tJun 10 16:18:15|Jun 10 16:18]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:18:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | either that I we need to become more nasty and close some rfe wontfix
|| [[#tJun 10 16:18:42|Jun 10 16:18]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:19:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think some of the bugs are not so big work
|| [[#tJun 10 16:19:36|Jun 10 16:19]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:20:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway we over time
|| [[#tJun 10 16:20:09|Jun 10 16:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:20:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so let's close the meeting if nothing else
|| [[#tJun 10 16:20:18|Jun 10 16:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:20:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I added a comment to bz about remote use
|| [[#tJun 10 16:20:32|Jun 10 16:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:20:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | and maybe we can talk more about xkb next time
|| [[#tJun 10 16:20:42|Jun 10 16:20]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:06|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:17"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | added comment about remote use too
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:17|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: but let me ask currently xkb scan codes is either all on or off?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:20|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: thanks
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:24|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: no IME differentiation yet?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:39|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:21:56"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | no different
|| [[#tJun 10 16:21:56|Jun 10 16:21]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:22:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I guess we need some meta data for IMEs that don't need it
|| [[#tJun 10 16:22:06|Jun 10 16:22]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:22:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:22:10|Jun 10 16:22]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:23:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: maybe a setup config we would be a start?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:23:23|Jun 10 16:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:23:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | to turn it on and off?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:23:38|Jun 10 16:23]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:24:08"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | We need a detail design for it
|| [[#tJun 10 16:24:08|Jun 10 16:24]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:25:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | right
|| [[#tJun 10 16:25:50|Jun 10 16:25]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:26:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: anything you want to mention on imsettings or other stuff?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:26:44|Jun 10 16:26]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:28:05"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | juhp, phuang: perhaps some API for the IMEs do care.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:28:05|Jun 10 16:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:28:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah
|| [[#tJun 10 16:28:24|Jun 10 16:28]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:29:31"
! style="background-color: #854685" | tagoh3
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: not particularly so far.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:29:31|Jun 10 16:29]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:29:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tJun 10 16:29:43|Jun 10 16:29]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:29:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | we can continue talking but let's end the formal meeting here :)
|| [[#tJun 10 16:29:56|Jun 10 16:29]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:30:48"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | IME could choice keyboard layout in IME describe xml file
|| [[#tJun 10 16:30:48|Jun 10 16:30]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:31:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: right
|| [[#tJun 10 16:31:11|Jun 10 16:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:31:16"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | and ibus will convert scan code to the specified keyboard layout
|| [[#tJun 10 16:31:16|Jun 10 16:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:31:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I guess m17n may be hardest
|| [[#tJun 10 16:31:23|Jun 10 16:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:31:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | since some maps may need it and not others - dunno
|| [[#tJun 10 16:31:50|Jun 10 16:31]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:32:13"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | each engines in m17n could specified different layout
|| [[#tJun 10 16:32:13|Jun 10 16:32]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:32:42"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | phuang: but dvorak user have no chance to change keyboard layout to their favour.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:32:42|Jun 10 16:32]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:32:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | changing topic but anyone see the thread on f-i-l started by ankit and gdm langlist?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:32:47|Jun 10 16:32]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:33:09"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | juhp: I did.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:33:09|Jun 10 16:33]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:33:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | but I don't know if keymap files in m17n have those information
|| [[#tJun 10 16:33:20|Jun 10 16:33]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:33:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: right
|| [[#tJun 10 16:33:26|Jun 10 16:33]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:34:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | dvorak layout works with chewing. ?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:34:20|Jun 10 16:34]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:34:51"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | juhp, I am not quite sure whether the system manager would like user to auto-add the language files.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:34:51|Jun 10 16:34]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:35:15"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | phuang: Yes, chewing support dvorak, dvorak 26 keys.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:35:15|Jun 10 16:35]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:36:10"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | phuang: So I suggest it should be in either IBus or IME's schemas.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:36:10|Jun 10 16:36]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:37:24"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | Actually, I am not clear about those use cases.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:37:24|Jun 10 16:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:37:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | dychen, Do you have detail information?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:37:42|Jun 10 16:37]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:38:01"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | phuang: How many keyboard layout are you supporting so far?
|| [[#tJun 10 16:38:01|Jun 10 16:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:38:54"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | dychen, keyboard layouts are loaded from text file. It is easy to add new one
|| [[#tJun 10 16:38:54|Jun 10 16:38]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:39:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | currently, I only has several layouts converted from qemu projects
|| [[#tJun 10 16:39:15|Jun 10 16:39]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:40:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | s/I/It/
|| [[#tJun 10 16:40:06|Jun 10 16:40]]
|- id="tJun 10 16:40:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | dychen
| style="color: #818144" | phuang: Those may be sufficient.
|| [[#tJun 10 16:40:31|Jun 10 16:40]]
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Agenda

Next meeting I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-17

bug lists: core IMEs imsettings scim

Summary

  • ibus-anthy still needs work current setup seems to be UI skeleton
  • reassigned ibus-anthy to Jens
  • talked about several bugs
  • libhangul updated to 0.0.9
  • new ibus build in f11 updates-testing
  • some discussion on xkb and keymap branch

Action Items

Log

juhp I18N/InputMethods/Meetings/2009-06-10 Jun 10 15:09
juhp ping phuang, tagoh3, dychen, paragan, pravins Jun 10 15:10
phuang hi Jun 10 15:10
juhp I cooked up an agenda page... Jun 10 15:10
dychen Hi, juhp Jun 10 15:10
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juhp any particular other topics for today? Jun 10 15:10
juhp perhaps we should go through the bug list today? Jun 10 15:12
tagoh3 hi Jun 10 15:12
juhp I think all rawhide bugs were moved to f11 Jun 10 15:12
paragn hi Jun 10 15:14
juhp phuang: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libhangul-0.0.9-1.fc11 btw Jun 10 15:14
pravins hi juhp Jun 10 15:14
phuang juhp, thanks Jun 10 15:14
juhp https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED Jun 10 15:20
juhp ah wait Jun 10 15:20
juhp let's talk briefly about ibus-anthy first Jun 10 15:21
juhp tagoh3: you said the Abe-san's latest code still not completely functional I guess? Jun 10 15:21
juhp in ibus-anthy-setup I mean Jun 10 15:22
tagoh3 yep Jun 10 15:22
juhp the setup UI looks ok but I guess maybe still needs some glue for state and gconf etc? Jun 10 15:23
tagoh3 well, keybindings list just contains keys for not-yet-implemented-feature Jun 10 15:23
juhp I didn't look at the code yet Jun 10 15:23
juhp ok Jun 10 15:23
juhp but presumably he is planning to do that Jun 10 15:23
tagoh3 dunno - it looked like borrowing list from scim-anthy though Jun 10 15:24
juhp ok Jun 10 15:24
juhp well hopefully anyway - guess it is a good start anyway Jun 10 15:24
juhp tagoh3: do you see more important things missing from setup skeleton? Jun 10 15:25
tagoh3 not sure if it should be entered into setup but apparently we are missing dictionary stuff there Jun 10 15:26
juhp tagoh3: right you mean kasumi support? Jun 10 15:26
tagoh3 since we no longer have a desktop entry for kasumi, it's really hard to do maintain anthy dictionary Jun 10 15:26
juhp aha Jun 10 15:26
juhp I suppose we could bring back the desktop file in the meantime ;) Jun 10 15:27
juhp I dunno how commonly it is used? Jun 10 15:27
tagoh3 juhp: that's an idea - ideally better invoking that from IM side so that that would be intuitive Jun 10 15:28
juhp anyway should be hard to add a kasumi button Jun 10 15:28
tagoh3 shouldn't? Jun 10 15:28
juhp tagoh3: does scim-anthy have a shortcut for it? Jun 10 15:28
juhp tagoh3: right Jun 10 15:28
tagoh3 juhp: you mean keybinding? I thought it's only available from toolbar. Jun 10 15:29
juhp ok Jun 10 15:29
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juhp hope I did that right Jun 10 15:31
*juhp updated ibus-anthy in pkgdb... Jun 10 15:31
juhp okay Jun 10 15:31
juhp phuang: btw you have a new ibus build in updates-testing I think? Jun 10 15:36
juhp https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&component=ibus&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED Jun 10 15:36
phuang yeah. I just built one today Jun 10 15:36
juhp cool Jun 10 15:36
juhp good for everyone to test that please Jun 10 15:37
phuang But it does not include changes for resolving xkb conflict Jun 10 15:37
juhp sure Jun 10 15:37
juhp good :) Jun 10 15:37
phuang For xkb testing, need build from git tree keymaps branch Jun 10 15:38
juhp any bugs anyone wants to raise? Jun 10 15:38
juhp phuang: yep Jun 10 15:38
juhp phuang: sure any xkb testing should be done in f12 :) Jun 10 15:38
juhp or scratch builds of course :) Jun 10 15:38
juhp .bug 486272 Jun 10 15:39
zodbot juhp: Bug 486272 need a hotmenu for focus-follows-mouse wm - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486272 Jun 10 15:39
juhp phuang: any more thoughts on this Jun 10 15:40
juhp we have touched on it in a while Jun 10 15:40
juhp haven't Jun 10 15:40
juhp dropping my not's today ;) Jun 10 15:40
phuang I think we discussed it yesterday Jun 10 15:41
phuang about the replace toolbar with sys menu Jun 10 15:41
juhp aha Jun 10 15:42
phuang tagoh3's comment of this bug Jun 10 15:42
juhp well that was systray menu Jun 10 15:42
juhp but that would work yes Jun 10 15:42
juhp hotkey to bring up menu Jun 10 15:42
juhp phuang: so would the menus be combined in this case? Jun 10 15:43
phuang yeah Jun 10 15:43
phuang and the menu must be triggered by hotkey Jun 10 15:43
juhp okay Jun 10 15:44
phuang mouse clicking also has same problem Jun 10 15:44
juhp agree - if we add support for toolbar actions in command menu then easier to do that part Jun 10 15:44
juhp but first step might be to allow switching IME from hotmenu Jun 10 15:45
phuang But I am afraid: If the mouse leaves the window, maybe ibus will has problem too Jun 10 15:45
phuang Still thinking it is minor case. could be ignored Jun 10 15:48
juhp .bug 491040 Jun 10 15:54
zodbot juhp: Bug 491040 candidate selection needs scrollbar and selection by mouse - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491040 Jun 10 15:54
phuang juhp, it is difficult to implement. All engines need changes to support it. :( Jun 10 16:00
juhp hmm Jun 10 16:01
juhp I see Jun 10 16:01
pravins phuang: as talked you yesterday, selection by mouse will help ibus-rawcode also :) Jun 10 16:01
phuang pravins, yeah. I will consider support it Jun 10 16:02
pravins cool Jun 10 16:03
pravins between i started working on .bug 501911 Jun 10 16:03
phuang I could add api for it. But if the engine want to support it, engine developers should add related code for it. Jun 10 16:03
pravins sure Jun 10 16:04
juhp phuang: how about PageUp/PageDown? Jun 10 16:04
juhp .bug 501911 Jun 10 16:04
zodbot juhp: Bug 501911 [ibus][Indic] - ZWJ Candidate window not showing Hexadecimal values in list - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501911 Jun 10 16:04
pravins thanks phuang for adding hex api in IbusLookuptabe Jun 10 16:04
phuang could add pageup and pagedown buttons too Jun 10 16:05
pravins s/IbusLookuptabe/IBusLookupTable Jun 10 16:05
juhp phuang: not buttons Jun 10 16:06
pravins yeah, will require that two Jun 10 16:06
phuang juhp, ? Jun 10 16:06
juhp phuang: keys :) Jun 10 16:06
juhp same story? Jun 10 16:06
phuang ibus always supports pagedown, pageup keys. Jun 10 16:07
phuang I think Jun 10 16:07
juhp in candidate list? Jun 10 16:07
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phuang in your keyboard Jun 10 16:07
juhp phuang: so not currently available I guess Jun 10 16:08
phuang but no buttons on candidate window Jun 10 16:08
juhp I think PageUp and PageDown is essential for candidate list Jun 10 16:08
juhp not working for me anyway Jun 10 16:08
phuang key does not work? Jun 10 16:09
phuang which engine? Jun 10 16:09
juhp no Jun 10 16:09
juhp PageUp/PageDown does not seem to do anything Jun 10 16:09
juhp is it just me? Jun 10 16:09
pravins juhp: it shows in ibus-rawcode Jun 10 16:09
pravins but i have not implemented function for that Jun 10 16:09
juhp ok Jun 10 16:10
juhp perhaps it is ibus-anthy? Jun 10 16:10
phuang If the PageUp & PageDown keys do not work. It is the problem of engine. Jun 10 16:10
juhp so IME implements that Jun 10 16:10
phuang yeah Jun 10 16:10
juhp ok Jun 10 16:10
juhp hmm so everyone IME needs to implement that? Jun 10 16:11
phuang yeah Jun 10 16:13
juhp hmm Jun 10 16:13
juhp ok Jun 10 16:13
phuang Some engines do not send the lookup table with all candidates Jun 10 16:13
juhp sure Jun 10 16:13
phuang so can not implement in ibus Jun 10 16:14
juhp phuang: pinyin is only showing 5 candidates at time? :) Jun 10 16:14
phuang no. it is configurable Jun 10 16:14
phuang and Pinyin will only send the current page to ibus-daemon Jun 10 16:14
phuang because performance issue Jun 10 16:15
juhp ok Jun 10 16:16
juhp just thought 5 is not that many but anyway Jun 10 16:16
juhp ok I think we need more contributions to ibus core from the team Jun 10 16:17
phuang yeah Jun 10 16:18
juhp if everyone took one ibus bug and submitted a patch it would help cut down the rfe list a lot Jun 10 16:18
juhp either that I we need to become more nasty and close some rfe wontfix Jun 10 16:18
juhp I think some of the bugs are not so big work Jun 10 16:19
juhp anyway we over time Jun 10 16:20
juhp so let's close the meeting if nothing else Jun 10 16:20
juhp I added a comment to bz about remote use Jun 10 16:20
juhp and maybe we can talk more about xkb next time Jun 10 16:20
phuang ok Jun 10 16:21
phuang added comment about remote use too Jun 10 16:21
juhp phuang: but let me ask currently xkb scan codes is either all on or off? Jun 10 16:21
juhp phuang: thanks Jun 10 16:21
juhp phuang: no IME differentiation yet? Jun 10 16:21
phuang no different Jun 10 16:21
juhp I guess we need some meta data for IMEs that don't need it Jun 10 16:22
juhp ok Jun 10 16:22
juhp phuang: maybe a setup config we would be a start? Jun 10 16:23
juhp to turn it on and off? Jun 10 16:23
phuang We need a detail design for it Jun 10 16:24
juhp right Jun 10 16:25
juhp tagoh3: anything you want to mention on imsettings or other stuff? Jun 10 16:26
dychen juhp, phuang: perhaps some API for the IMEs do care. Jun 10 16:28
juhp yeah Jun 10 16:28
tagoh3 juhp: not particularly so far. Jun 10 16:29
juhp ok Jun 10 16:29
juhp we can continue talking but let's end the formal meeting here :) Jun 10 16:29
phuang IME could choice keyboard layout in IME describe xml file Jun 10 16:30
juhp phuang: right Jun 10 16:31
phuang and ibus will convert scan code to the specified keyboard layout Jun 10 16:31
juhp I guess m17n may be hardest Jun 10 16:31
juhp since some maps may need it and not others - dunno Jun 10 16:31
phuang each engines in m17n could specified different layout Jun 10 16:32
dychen phuang: but dvorak user have no chance to change keyboard layout to their favour. Jun 10 16:32
juhp changing topic but anyone see the thread on f-i-l started by ankit and gdm langlist? Jun 10 16:32
dychen juhp: I did. Jun 10 16:33
phuang but I don't know if keymap files in m17n have those information Jun 10 16:33
juhp phuang: right Jun 10 16:33
phuang dvorak layout works with chewing. ? Jun 10 16:34
dychen juhp, I am not quite sure whether the system manager would like user to auto-add the language files. Jun 10 16:34
dychen phuang: Yes, chewing support dvorak, dvorak 26 keys. Jun 10 16:35
dychen phuang: So I suggest it should be in either IBus or IME's schemas. Jun 10 16:36
phuang Actually, I am not clear about those use cases. Jun 10 16:37
phuang dychen, Do you have detail information? Jun 10 16:37
dychen phuang: How many keyboard layout are you supporting so far? Jun 10 16:38
phuang dychen, keyboard layouts are loaded from text file. It is easy to add new one Jun 10 16:38
phuang currently, I only has several layouts converted from qemu projects Jun 10 16:39
phuang s/I/It/ Jun 10 16:40
dychen phuang: Those may be sufficient. Jun 10 16:40

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