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= Meeting =
= Meeting =
Time: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=8&day=18&hour=5&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 2009-08-18 0500 UTC]
Time: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=8&day=18&hour=5&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 2009-08-18 0500 UTC]


Place: #fedora-meeting at Freenode
Place: #fedora-meeting at Freenode


Agenda:
== Agenda ==
* [[Releases/12/Schedule]]
* [[Releases/12/Schedule]]
* Bugs corner: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com new bugs]
* Bugs corner: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com new bugs]
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== Summary==
== Summary==
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-18/fedora-meeting.2009-08-18-05.02.html
*


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===


== Log ==
== Log ==
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-18/fedora-meeting.2009-08-18-05.02.log.html
{|
|- id="t05:02:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora I18n meeting
|| [[#t05:02:39|05:02]]
|- id="t05:03:55"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | tagoh3
| style="color: #42427e" | hi
|| [[#t05:03:55|05:03]]
|- id="t05:03:59"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | hi
|| [[#t05:03:59|05:03]]
|- id="t05:04:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hi tagoh3
|| [[#t05:04:00|05:04]]
|- id="t05:04:01"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | hi
|| [[#t05:04:01|05:04]]
|- id="t05:04:51"
! style="background-color: #488888" | phuang
| style="color: #488888" | hi
|| [[#t05:04:51|05:04]]
|- id="t05:04:58"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | fujiwarat
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hi
|| [[#t05:04:58|05:04]]
|- id="t05:05:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | welcome all
|| [[#t05:05:27|05:05]]
|- id="t05:05:51"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | jni
| style="color: #4b904b" | hi
|| [[#t05:05:51|05:05]]
|- id="t05:06:22"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | sflanigan
| style="color: #4d4d93" | hi
|| [[#t05:06:22|05:06]]
|- id="t05:06:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic [[I18N/Meetings/2009-08-18]]
|| [[#t05:06:33|05:06]]
|- id="t05:07:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so I believe f12alpha is frozen and coming out next week
|| [[#t05:07:47|05:07]]
|- id="t05:08:34"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | just hope glibc-2.10.90 x86 bugs will be fixed.
|| [[#t05:08:34|05:08]]
|- id="t05:08:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rc1 seems to be on alt anyway
|| [[#t05:08:43|05:08]]
|- id="t05:08:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen: hmm - is it in bz?
|| [[#t05:08:54|05:08]]
|- id="t05:09:15"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: Not yet, still looking.
|| [[#t05:09:15|05:09]]
|- id="t05:09:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | worst i18n issue I noticed is caused by google-droid-fonts afaict
|| [[#t05:09:32|05:09]]
|- id="t05:09:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | not sure yet why it is installed by default
|| [[#t05:09:45|05:09]]
|- id="t05:12:29"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | tagoh3
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp: no clue in logs?
|| [[#t05:12:29|05:12]]
|- id="t05:13:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | at least it is clearly visible in the livecd logs: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/logs/
|| [[#t05:13:01|05:13]]
|- id="t05:13:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: not really
|| [[#t05:13:09|05:13]]
|- id="t05:13:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | (at least it is bad for japanese)
|| [[#t05:13:30|05:13]]
|- id="t05:15:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | .bug 517789
|| [[#t05:15:45|05:15]]
|- id="t05:15:47"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | buggbot
| style="color: #97974f" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=517789 medium, low, ---, nicolas.mailhot, NEW, Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font
|| [[#t05:15:47|05:15]]
|- id="t05:15:48"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | buggbot
| style="color: #97974f" | Bug 517789: medium, low, ---, nicolas.mailhot, NEW, Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font
|| [[#t05:15:48|05:15]]
|- id="t05:15:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway
|| [[#t05:15:56|05:15]]
|- id="t05:17:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailcc2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com
|| [[#t05:17:20|05:17]]
|- id="t05:20:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ah while i remember should probably mention another change we made to comps yesterday making some secondary fonts for CJK optional
|| [[#t05:20:30|05:20]]
|- id="t05:21:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think it is good since it brings Fedora installs and Live closer together and reduces the core package set
|| [[#t05:21:38|05:21]]
|- id="t05:22:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | after alpha we should see new ibus-qt and imsettings in rawhide :)
|| [[#t05:22:20|05:22]]
|- id="t05:22:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | and also new m17n packages I guess
|| [[#t05:22:33|05:22]]
|- id="t05:22:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | and probably other stuff too I am forgetting - ibus-anthy
|| [[#t05:22:57|05:22]]
|- id="t05:23:33"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | yes all new after F-12
|| [[#t05:23:33|05:23]]
|- id="t05:23:51"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | Alpha released
|| [[#t05:23:51|05:23]]
|- id="t05:25:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone have any bugs they want to discuss?
|| [[#t05:25:42|05:25]]
|- id="t05:25:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | unicode 5.1 compatible lohit-fonts
|| [[#t05:25:44|05:25]]
|- id="t05:25:50"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | as well :)
|| [[#t05:25:50|05:25]]
|- id="t05:27:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | cool
|| [[#t05:27:01|05:27]]
|- id="t05:27:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | 3 target bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailcc2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&amp;field0-0-0=blocked&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=473302
|| [[#t05:27:10|05:27]]
|- id="t05:27:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | no blockers right now
|| [[#t05:27:19|05:27]]
|- id="t05:29:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok I added the droid as a blocker...
|| [[#t05:29:36|05:29]]
|- id="t05:29:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | bug
|| [[#t05:29:40|05:29]]
|- id="t05:30:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | 8 package reviews open: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=Package%20Review&amp;bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailcc2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com
|| [[#t05:30:59|05:30]]
|- id="t05:31:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragan: any comments on those?
|| [[#t05:31:09|05:31]]
|- id="t05:31:51"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | will check that again
|| [[#t05:31:51|05:31]]
|- id="t05:31:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | juhp: i will take bitmap-fonts
|| [[#t05:31:54|05:31]]
|- id="t05:31:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragan: guess those fonts are still in limbo? :)
|| [[#t05:31:57|05:31]]
|- id="t05:32:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | pravins: cool
|| [[#t05:32:03|05:32]]
|- id="t05:32:19"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | actually nim-nim is on vacation till 7th sept so I have to wait for him to complete font package reviews
|| [[#t05:32:19|05:32]]
|- id="t05:32:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I can can probably do the hyphen packages quickly by next week unless someone beats me to it
|| [[#t05:32:45|05:32]]
|- id="t05:33:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | whoowns bitmap-fonts
|| [[#t05:33:07|05:33]]
|- id="t05:33:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | .whoowns bitmap-fonts
|| [[#t05:33:12|05:33]]
|- id="t05:33:30"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | juhp, thanks
|| [[#t05:33:30|05:33]]
|- id="t05:34:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragan: looks like it needs work though at least going by the comments
|| [[#t05:34:37|05:34]]
|- id="t05:36:39"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | paragan
| style="color: #9b519b" | yes
|| [[#t05:36:39|05:36]]
|- id="t05:37:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen: returning to your glibc probably good to file a new bug if it is reproducible and unfiled
|| [[#t05:37:57|05:37]]
|- id="t05:38:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragan: ah yeah (nim)
|| [[#t05:38:41|05:38]]
|- id="t05:38:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | well maybe that is enough for today
|| [[#t05:38:53|05:38]]
|- id="t05:39:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone have anything else to bring up?
|| [[#t05:39:08|05:39]]
|- id="t05:39:29"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: will do. Still investigate and try to narrow down.
|| [[#t05:39:29|05:39]]
|- id="t05:39:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen: is it easy to reproduce?
|| [[#t05:39:57|05:39]]
|- id="t05:40:44"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: I can reproduce it with gob2 and ibus-chewing, but it is not very concise.
|| [[#t05:40:44|05:40]]
|- id="t05:40:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | next meeting is in two weeks
|| [[#t05:40:45|05:40]]
|- id="t05:40:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm
|| [[#t05:40:52|05:40]]
|- id="t05:41:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | perhaps it is not glibc?
|| [[#t05:41:17|05:41]]
|- id="t05:41:51"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: I just replace glibc with older version and it works like normal.
|| [[#t05:41:51|05:41]]
|- id="t05:42:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's end the meeting in a minute or so unless someone has another topic
|| [[#t05:42:07|05:42]]
|- id="t05:42:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen: aha
|| [[#t05:42:12|05:42]]
|- id="t05:42:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#t05:42:14|05:42]]
|- id="t05:42:17"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: Any glibc testing suite?
|| [[#t05:42:17|05:42]]
|- id="t05:42:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dunno - maybe check the spec file? :)
|| [[#t05:42:43|05:42]]
|- id="t05:43:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen: anyway if there a problem better to alert the glibc team early :)
|| [[#t05:43:11|05:43]]
|- id="t05:43:43"
! style="background-color: #854685" | dychen
| style="color: #854685" | juhp: sure.
|| [[#t05:43:43|05:43]]
|- id="t05:44:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok thanks everyone - we can continue off discussions in #fedora-i18n
|| [[#t05:44:13|05:44]]
|- id="t05:44:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | etc
|| [[#t05:44:20|05:44]]
|- id="t05:44:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t05:44:32|05:44]]
|}
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Time: 2009-08-18 0500 UTC

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juhp #startmeeting Fedora I18n meeting 05:02
tagoh3 hi 05:03
pravins hi 05:03
juhp hi tagoh3 05:04
dychen hi 05:04
phuang hi 05:04
fujiwarat hi 05:04
juhp welcome all 05:05
jni hi 05:05
sflanigan hi 05:06
juhp #topic I18N/Meetings/2009-08-18 05:06
juhp so I believe f12alpha is frozen and coming out next week 05:07
dychen just hope glibc-2.10.90 x86 bugs will be fixed. 05:08
juhp rc1 seems to be on alt anyway 05:08
juhp dychen: hmm - is it in bz? 05:08
dychen juhp: Not yet, still looking. 05:09
juhp worst i18n issue I noticed is caused by google-droid-fonts afaict 05:09
juhp not sure yet why it is installed by default 05:09
tagoh3 juhp: no clue in logs? 05:12
juhp at least it is clearly visible in the livecd logs: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/logs/ 05:13
juhp tagoh3: not really 05:13
juhp (at least it is bad for japanese) 05:13
juhp .bug 517789 05:15
buggbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=517789 medium, low, ---, nicolas.mailhot, NEW, Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font 05:15
buggbot Bug 517789: medium, low, ---, nicolas.mailhot, NEW, Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font 05:15
juhp anyway 05:15
juhp https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com 05:17
juhp ah while i remember should probably mention another change we made to comps yesterday making some secondary fonts for CJK optional 05:20
juhp I think it is good since it brings Fedora installs and Live closer together and reduces the core package set 05:21
juhp after alpha we should see new ibus-qt and imsettings in rawhide :) 05:22
juhp and also new m17n packages I guess 05:22
juhp and probably other stuff too I am forgetting - ibus-anthy 05:22
paragan yes all new after F-12 05:23
paragan Alpha released 05:23
juhp anyone have any bugs they want to discuss? 05:25
pravins unicode 5.1 compatible lohit-fonts 05:25
pravins as well :) 05:25
juhp cool 05:27
juhp 3 target bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=473302 05:27
juhp no blockers right now 05:27
juhp ok I added the droid as a blocker... 05:29
juhp bug 05:29
juhp 8 package reviews open: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=Package%20Review&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com 05:30
juhp paragan: any comments on those? 05:31
paragan will check that again 05:31
pravins juhp: i will take bitmap-fonts 05:31
juhp paragan: guess those fonts are still in limbo? :) 05:31
juhp pravins: cool 05:32
paragan actually nim-nim is on vacation till 7th sept so I have to wait for him to complete font package reviews 05:32
juhp I can can probably do the hyphen packages quickly by next week unless someone beats me to it 05:32
juhp whoowns bitmap-fonts 05:33
juhp .whoowns bitmap-fonts 05:33
paragan juhp, thanks 05:33
juhp paragan: looks like it needs work though at least going by the comments 05:34
paragan yes 05:36
juhp dychen: returning to your glibc probably good to file a new bug if it is reproducible and unfiled 05:37
juhp paragan: ah yeah (nim) 05:38
juhp well maybe that is enough for today 05:38
juhp anyone have anything else to bring up? 05:39
dychen juhp: will do. Still investigate and try to narrow down. 05:39
juhp dychen: is it easy to reproduce? 05:39
dychen juhp: I can reproduce it with gob2 and ibus-chewing, but it is not very concise. 05:40
juhp next meeting is in two weeks 05:40
juhp hmm 05:40
juhp perhaps it is not glibc? 05:41
dychen juhp: I just replace glibc with older version and it works like normal. 05:41
juhp ok let's end the meeting in a minute or so unless someone has another topic 05:42
juhp dychen: aha 05:42
juhp ok 05:42
dychen juhp: Any glibc testing suite? 05:42
juhp dunno - maybe check the spec file? :) 05:42
juhp dychen: anyway if there a problem better to alert the glibc team early :) 05:43
dychen juhp: sure. 05:43
juhp ok thanks everyone - we can continue off discussions in #fedora-i18n 05:44
juhp etc 05:44
juhp #endmeeting 05:44

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