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Last Meeting

Attendees

  • mizmo
  • stickster
  • Sparks
  • poelcat
  • ricky
  • rislam
  • abadger1999

Packaging Status

Test Instance

  • ke4qqq is working on it

Team Responsibilities

  • Docs is responsible and accountable for getting the Zikula system packaged, complete with whatever modules we need
  • Infrastructure is responsible for putting the app up, once that's done
  • Design is responsible for skinning the thing
  • Marketing (ianweller) is responsible for assessing it for use with their new content project
    • the News team is probably affected by this and should be kept informed (they're really team #5 more or less)

Next Meeting

  • Wednesday, July 22, 2009 @ 17:00 UTC/11 AM EDT

IRC Log

poelcat #startmeeting Zikula 15:00
poelcat who is the house to talk Zikula? 15:01
* Sparks is here 15:01
poelcat Sparks: hi 15:02
poelcat ke4qqq ianweller ping 15:02
poelcat who else did we need to track down? 15:02
Sparks ke4qqq ianweller rislam jds2001 rjune_wrk mizmo: Zikula Meeting 15:04
* rislam is here 15:04
* ricky is here 15:04
poelcat let's get started and hopefully ke4qqq will appeear 15:06
* poelcat looks at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Zikula_IRC_log_20090708 for followups 15:06
poelcat #topic followup https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Zikula_IRC_log_20090708 15:06
mizmo hi 15:06
poelcat Sparks: how's Tracking of other modules needs to be added to bugzilla 15:06
Sparks I think everything is on that ticket, now. 15:07
* abadger1999 rubs his eyes and joins the party 15:07
* Sparks goes to get the link 15:07
poelcat Sparks: cool 15:07
poelcat we had a few others that ke4qqq was tracking down and a few that I'm not sure who was covering them 15:08
poelcat re: puppet manifests and getting the test instance going 15:08
Sparks #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504066 15:09
buggbot Bug 504066: medium, high, ---, david, ASSIGNED, CMS for docs.fp.org 15:09
Sparks ^^^ That should be the master ticket. I see 16 blockers on that ticket of which three have been closed. 15:09
Sparks I know that my packages are in bodhi no 15:09
Sparks now 15:09
poelcat Sparks: we said last week we wanted to have all "non-sponsor-needed" modules done by today 15:10
poelcat is there an easy way to tell? 15:10
Sparks poelcat: I wouldn't know. ke4qqq should. I can do a query to see if anything is flagged as NEEDSPONSOR, though. 15:11
Sparks poelcat: Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can do that. 15:12
poelcat okay 15:13
poelcat in the meantime who can give status on puppet and the test instance? 15:13
* ricky has been wondering about the test instance as well 15:14
ricky Is there a link floating around by any chance?  :-) 15:15
poelcat ricky: I don't have one.. it was a comment made in passing last week 15:15
ricky Ah, OK 15:16
* poelcat notes this meeting seems to be dragging 15:17
abadger1999 It is running on one of the publictests. 15:17
poelcat do we have enough of the right people today or should we call the meeting? 15:17
Sparks #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=zikula&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=177841 15:18
poelcat abadger1999: do you know if there are particular things that need to be done to it to make it usable? 15:18
Sparks poelcat: Should be one package open that still needs sponsorship... zikula-module-Content 15:18
poelcat Sparks: how can we get a sponsor for it? 15:19
Sparks I think abadger1999 is working that ticket. 15:19
abadger1999 Sparks, poelcatI will sponsor when the package is ready. 15:19
Sparks .bug 492091 15:19
buggbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=492091 medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula 15:19
buggbot Bug 492091: medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula 15:19
abadger1999 poelcat: I do not know of the status of the publictest instance. 15:20
poelcat okay, so who will make the package ready? 15:20
abadger1999 It was running quite a while ago, but without everything being in packages. 15:20
Sparks Yeah, there is a publictest instance. I don't recall what it was, though. We talked about it on the Marketing Meeting yesterday 15:21
abadger1999 Looks like publictest15 15:23
quaid publictest15 15:23
Sparks Yeah, what they said 15:23
Sparks #link http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/cms/ 15:24
poelcat let's close on bug 492091... what is the next action and who owns it? 15:24
buggbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=492091 medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula 15:24
Sparks LukasHetzi owns it and abadger1999 is working it 15:25
abadger1999 So next step for that is Lukas makes a new package that uses the system installed php libraries instead of the ones bundled with the package. 15:26
poelcat how soon do we need that from Lukas and does he know we are waiting for it? 15:27
Sparks Last comment on the ticket was today 15:29
abadger1999 Yeah, I worked on a bunch of reviews last night. Lukas has been pretty responsive. 15:32
abadger1999 Don't know if he knows there's urgency in getting reviewed, though. 15:32
poelcat okay, i guess we should move on. It might help if he did 15:34
poelcat Sparks: who knows the latest status of the test instance and what the next steps are? 15:35
Sparks poelcat: I can't answer that. 15:35
poelcat who would be the next logical person to ask? 15:36
Sparks ke4qqq: or infra 15:36
* stickster_mtg shows up very late 15:39
stickster I'm sorry guys 15:39
poelcat anything else we should cover today? it seems that we aren't making a lot of progress 15:39
poelcat and are dependent on others not here 15:39
* stickster reads back to see where we are 15:39
rislam i'm confused to ask what part I should take as I am new on this team 15:41
stickster Sparks: poelcat: abadger1999: So the main thing I see right now is packaging needs, is that where we're blocked? 15:41
abadger1999 It's probably the bottleneck, though we're flowing. 15:41
Sparks stickster: that is a major blocker 15:41
abadger1999 packaging needs include writing/rewriting code sometimes. 15:42
* Sparks agrees with abadger1999 15:42
abadger1999 because of bundled libraries or licensing issues. 15:42
stickster Sparks: Who do we have working on the team who's PHP proficient (or somewhat so)? 15:42
* Sparks doesn't know 15:42
* stickster has done a couple packages himself, but they tended to be pretty easy. 15:43
stickster Sparks: Perhaps you could clarify that on the list, then? 15:43
Sparks stickster: ok 15:43
stickster We probably need to know who our go-to folks are. And if we don't have any outside the Zikula folks, we would want to know that as well. 15:43
stickster https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=504066&hide_resolved=1 15:44
stickster That's the current lineup for Zikula packaging stuff that's waiting, right? 15:44
stickster abadger1999: About thsi bug... 15:45
stickster https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506517 15:45
buggbot Bug 506517: medium, medium, ---, nb, ASSIGNED, Review Request: phpFlickr - PHP client library for Flickr 15:45
stickster That looks closeable to me, do you agree? 15:45
* stickster has stepped in the weeds and backs out. 15:45
stickster Would anybody agree that, since packaging is a bottleneck, we should traverse this short bug list to see what needs to be completed? 15:46
abadger1999 stickster: Looks to be. Let me check with yum 15:46
stickster Or am I digging too deep there? 15:46
Sparks stickster: Are we holding these tickets open until the package goes live? 15:46
stickster Sparks: I think abadger1999 just asked the same thing, differently 15:46
poelcat the only other topic we had was how to engage other groups besides documentation but i'm not sure if we have enough other people t9o discuss 15:47
poelcat so walking the bug list for the remaining time is fine 15:47
stickster poelcat: Sorry if I got off the agenda 15:47
* stickster was like a bull in a china shop there for a minute 15:47
stickster So... 15:48
stickster The way I see it, there are four groups that are involved somehow 15:48
stickster Docs is responsible and accountable for getting the Zikula system packaged, complete with whatever modules we need 15:48
* stickster <-- disagree with this guy when appropriate 15:49
* Sparks agrees 15:49
abadger1999 I think phpFlickr is done -- it's in EPEL-5 testing. 15:49
stickster abadger1999: eggscellent 15:49
Sparks I think my packages are in EPEL-5 testing, too 15:49
Sparks except for the one with the licensing issued 15:50
Sparks issues 15:50
abadger1999 ke4qqq: may have that set to autoclose by bodhi when the package goes stable in F-11 but there's not much left too do. 15:50
stickster Infrastructure is responsible for putting the app up, once that's done 15:50
stickster Design is responsible for skinning the thing 15:50
* Sparks has his set to autoclose when it goes stable in F-11 15:50
stickster (i.e. CSS work) 15:50
* quaid puts the skinning knife away ... 15:51
stickster Marketing (ianweller) is responsible for assessing it for use with their new content project 15:51
stickster On the side, the News team is probably affected by this and should be kept informed (they're really team #5 more or less) 15:51
abadger1999 regarding infra responsibility, we're planning on giving as much of that to itbegins/other people brought in by their intterest in zikula as possible. 15:52
abadger1999 I'll try to get people sponsored into additional groups or, failing that, will proxy changes into infrastructure for them. 15:52
stickster So for each of these teams, there's someone in particular who's responsible for tasks -- abadger1999 just stated what he's doing in this process. 15:53
stickster ianweller: <-- is not here apparently to talk about Marketing 15:53
Sparks ke4qqq: <-- is managing the packaging 15:54
stickster So all those people are involved on the logistics list, right? 15:54
Sparks should be 15:54
poelcat i think so too 15:55
stickster It seems to me all the groups that should be engaged, are 15:55
Sparks now if we can just get them to show up to a meeting! 15:55
stickster We can still establish next actions and set due dates for them 15:55
Sparks +1 to assigning work to people who aren't here. 15:56
stickster Sparks: Do you recall what the target date was to get the publictest instance updated with the packages being created? 15:56
stickster poelcat: I hope I'm not retreading old ground here 15:56
* poelcat notes we have 4 min until the end 15:56
Sparks I don't 15:56
poelcat stickster: nope 15:56
Sparks Before the RNs Alpha 15:57
stickster Sparks: When is that? 15:57
* Sparks is looking 15:57
poelcat 2009-08-18 15:57
stickster Thanks :-) 15:57
Sparks I was going to say the 16th but I'm good with a couple extradays 15:58
stickster OK, so without a better idea of when modules are to be completed, and to leave us room to get problems worked out, what if we tried to have all the packaging work done by 23 July (Fri) or 26 July (Mon)? 15:58
stickster That seems eminently achievable 15:59
stickster I got easy packages done in about an hour 15:59
poelcat we had an initial target of "completion of all non-sponsor-needed modules by next Wednesday, July 15, 2009 " 15:59
stickster And the hard ones we should bubble up to the list for help. 15:59
stickster poelcat: Ah, so I'm slipping that date then? 15:59
Sparks except the 23rd is a Thursday and the 26th is a Sunday 15:59
stickster sorry, date fail :-) 15:59
poelcat well we need status from ke4qqq 15:59
poelcat so i'm not sure :) 16:00
poelcat we need to wrap up... I think QA meeting is next 16:00
stickster poelcat: Thanks for that date, I didn't realize we'd passed the deadline at this poitn. 16:00
* adamw taps foot and looks at watch 16:00
stickster OK, let's see if we can round up issues on list 16:00
jlaska hehe 16:00
poelcat thanks everyone 16:00
stickster Take it away QA! 16:00
poelcat #endmeeting 16:00
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