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Last Meeting
Attendees
- mizmo
- stickster
- Sparks
- poelcat
- ricky
- rislam
- abadger1999
Packaging Status
- Most important part of going live on time
- Tracking bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=504066&hide_resolved=1
- Targeting 2009-07-23 for finishing packaging
Test Instance
- ke4qqq is working on it
Team Responsibilities
- Docs is responsible and accountable for getting the Zikula system packaged, complete with whatever modules we need
- Infrastructure is responsible for putting the app up, once that's done
- Design is responsible for skinning the thing
- Marketing (ianweller) is responsible for assessing it for use with their new content project
- the News team is probably affected by this and should be kept informed (they're really team #5 more or less)
Next Meeting
- Wednesday, July 22, 2009 @ 17:00 UTC/11 AM EDT
IRC Log
poelcat | #startmeeting Zikula | 15:00 |
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poelcat | who is the house to talk Zikula? | 15:01 |
* Sparks is here | 15:01 | |
poelcat | Sparks: hi | 15:02 |
poelcat | ke4qqq ianweller ping | 15:02 |
poelcat | who else did we need to track down? | 15:02 |
Sparks | ke4qqq ianweller rislam jds2001 rjune_wrk mizmo: Zikula Meeting | 15:04 |
* rislam is here | 15:04 | |
* ricky is here | 15:04 | |
poelcat | let's get started and hopefully ke4qqq will appeear | 15:06 |
* poelcat looks at Meeting:Zikula_IRC_log_20090708 for followups | 15:06 | |
poelcat | #topic followup Meeting:Zikula_IRC_log_20090708 | 15:06 |
mizmo | hi | 15:06 |
poelcat | Sparks: how's Tracking of other modules needs to be added to bugzilla | 15:06 |
Sparks | I think everything is on that ticket, now. | 15:07 |
* abadger1999 rubs his eyes and joins the party | 15:07 | |
* Sparks goes to get the link | 15:07 | |
poelcat | Sparks: cool | 15:07 |
poelcat | we had a few others that ke4qqq was tracking down and a few that I'm not sure who was covering them | 15:08 |
poelcat | re: puppet manifests and getting the test instance going | 15:08 |
Sparks | #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504066 | 15:09 |
buggbot | Bug 504066: medium, high, ---, david, ASSIGNED, CMS for docs.fp.org | 15:09 |
Sparks | ^^^ That should be the master ticket. I see 16 blockers on that ticket of which three have been closed. | 15:09 |
Sparks | I know that my packages are in bodhi no | 15:09 |
Sparks | now | 15:09 |
poelcat | Sparks: we said last week we wanted to have all "non-sponsor-needed" modules done by today | 15:10 |
poelcat | is there an easy way to tell? | 15:10 |
Sparks | poelcat: I wouldn't know. ke4qqq should. I can do a query to see if anything is flagged as NEEDSPONSOR, though. | 15:11 |
Sparks | poelcat: Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can do that. | 15:12 |
poelcat | okay | 15:13 |
poelcat | in the meantime who can give status on puppet and the test instance? | 15:13 |
* ricky has been wondering about the test instance as well | 15:14 | |
ricky | Is there a link floating around by any chance? :-) | 15:15 |
poelcat | ricky: I don't have one.. it was a comment made in passing last week | 15:15 |
ricky | Ah, OK | 15:16 |
* poelcat notes this meeting seems to be dragging | 15:17 | |
abadger1999 | It is running on one of the publictests. | 15:17 |
poelcat | do we have enough of the right people today or should we call the meeting? | 15:17 |
Sparks | #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=zikula&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=177841 | 15:18 |
poelcat | abadger1999: do you know if there are particular things that need to be done to it to make it usable? | 15:18 |
Sparks | poelcat: Should be one package open that still needs sponsorship... zikula-module-Content | 15:18 |
poelcat | Sparks: how can we get a sponsor for it? | 15:19 |
Sparks | I think abadger1999 is working that ticket. | 15:19 |
abadger1999 | Sparks, poelcatI will sponsor when the package is ready. | 15:19 |
Sparks | .bug 492091 | 15:19 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=492091 medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula | 15:19 |
buggbot | Bug 492091: medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula | 15:19 |
abadger1999 | poelcat: I do not know of the status of the publictest instance. | 15:20 |
poelcat | okay, so who will make the package ready? | 15:20 |
abadger1999 | It was running quite a while ago, but without everything being in packages. | 15:20 |
Sparks | Yeah, there is a publictest instance. I don't recall what it was, though. We talked about it on the Marketing Meeting yesterday | 15:21 |
abadger1999 | Looks like publictest15 | 15:23 |
quaid | publictest15 | 15:23 |
Sparks | Yeah, what they said | 15:23 |
Sparks | #link http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/cms/ | 15:24 |
poelcat | let's close on bug 492091... what is the next action and who owns it? | 15:24 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=492091 medium, low, ---, a.badger, ASSIGNED, Review Request: zikula-module-Content - Page editing module for Zikula | 15:24 |
Sparks | LukasHetzi owns it and abadger1999 is working it | 15:25 |
abadger1999 | So next step for that is Lukas makes a new package that uses the system installed php libraries instead of the ones bundled with the package. | 15:26 |
poelcat | how soon do we need that from Lukas and does he know we are waiting for it? | 15:27 |
Sparks | Last comment on the ticket was today | 15:29 |
abadger1999 | Yeah, I worked on a bunch of reviews last night. Lukas has been pretty responsive. | 15:32 |
abadger1999 | Don't know if he knows there's urgency in getting reviewed, though. | 15:32 |
poelcat | okay, i guess we should move on. It might help if he did | 15:34 |
poelcat | Sparks: who knows the latest status of the test instance and what the next steps are? | 15:35 |
Sparks | poelcat: I can't answer that. | 15:35 |
poelcat | who would be the next logical person to ask? | 15:36 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: or infra | 15:36 |
* stickster_mtg shows up very late | 15:39 | |
stickster | I'm sorry guys | 15:39 |
poelcat | anything else we should cover today? it seems that we aren't making a lot of progress | 15:39 |
poelcat | and are dependent on others not here | 15:39 |
* stickster reads back to see where we are | 15:39 | |
rislam | i'm confused to ask what part I should take as I am new on this team | 15:41 |
stickster | Sparks: poelcat: abadger1999: So the main thing I see right now is packaging needs, is that where we're blocked? | 15:41 |
abadger1999 | It's probably the bottleneck, though we're flowing. | 15:41 |
Sparks | stickster: that is a major blocker | 15:41 |
abadger1999 | packaging needs include writing/rewriting code sometimes. | 15:42 |
* Sparks agrees with abadger1999 | 15:42 | |
abadger1999 | because of bundled libraries or licensing issues. | 15:42 |
stickster | Sparks: Who do we have working on the team who's PHP proficient (or somewhat so)? | 15:42 |
* Sparks doesn't know | 15:42 | |
* stickster has done a couple packages himself, but they tended to be pretty easy. | 15:43 | |
stickster | Sparks: Perhaps you could clarify that on the list, then? | 15:43 |
Sparks | stickster: ok | 15:43 |
stickster | We probably need to know who our go-to folks are. And if we don't have any outside the Zikula folks, we would want to know that as well. | 15:43 |
stickster | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=504066&hide_resolved=1 | 15:44 |
stickster | That's the current lineup for Zikula packaging stuff that's waiting, right? | 15:44 |
stickster | abadger1999: About thsi bug... | 15:45 |
stickster | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506517 | 15:45 |
buggbot | Bug 506517: medium, medium, ---, nb, ASSIGNED, Review Request: phpFlickr - PHP client library for Flickr | 15:45 |
stickster | That looks closeable to me, do you agree? | 15:45 |
* stickster has stepped in the weeds and backs out. | 15:45 | |
stickster | Would anybody agree that, since packaging is a bottleneck, we should traverse this short bug list to see what needs to be completed? | 15:46 |
abadger1999 | stickster: Looks to be. Let me check with yum | 15:46 |
stickster | Or am I digging too deep there? | 15:46 |
Sparks | stickster: Are we holding these tickets open until the package goes live? | 15:46 |
stickster | Sparks: I think abadger1999 just asked the same thing, differently | 15:46 |
poelcat | the only other topic we had was how to engage other groups besides documentation but i'm not sure if we have enough other people t9o discuss | 15:47 |
poelcat | so walking the bug list for the remaining time is fine | 15:47 |
stickster | poelcat: Sorry if I got off the agenda | 15:47 |
* stickster was like a bull in a china shop there for a minute | 15:47 | |
stickster | So... | 15:48 |
stickster | The way I see it, there are four groups that are involved somehow | 15:48 |
stickster | Docs is responsible and accountable for getting the Zikula system packaged, complete with whatever modules we need | 15:48 |
* stickster <-- disagree with this guy when appropriate | 15:49 | |
* Sparks agrees | 15:49 | |
abadger1999 | I think phpFlickr is done -- it's in EPEL-5 testing. | 15:49 |
stickster | abadger1999: eggscellent | 15:49 |
Sparks | I think my packages are in EPEL-5 testing, too | 15:49 |
Sparks | except for the one with the licensing issued | 15:50 |
Sparks | issues | 15:50 |
abadger1999 | ke4qqq: may have that set to autoclose by bodhi when the package goes stable in F-11 but there's not much left too do. | 15:50 |
stickster | Infrastructure is responsible for putting the app up, once that's done | 15:50 |
stickster | Design is responsible for skinning the thing | 15:50 |
* Sparks has his set to autoclose when it goes stable in F-11 | 15:50 | |
stickster | (i.e. CSS work) | 15:50 |
* quaid puts the skinning knife away ... | 15:51 | |
stickster | Marketing (ianweller) is responsible for assessing it for use with their new content project | 15:51 |
stickster | On the side, the News team is probably affected by this and should be kept informed (they're really team #5 more or less) | 15:51 |
abadger1999 | regarding infra responsibility, we're planning on giving as much of that to itbegins/other people brought in by their intterest in zikula as possible. | 15:52 |
abadger1999 | I'll try to get people sponsored into additional groups or, failing that, will proxy changes into infrastructure for them. | 15:52 |
stickster | So for each of these teams, there's someone in particular who's responsible for tasks -- abadger1999 just stated what he's doing in this process. | 15:53 |
stickster | ianweller: <-- is not here apparently to talk about Marketing | 15:53 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: <-- is managing the packaging | 15:54 |
stickster | So all those people are involved on the logistics list, right? | 15:54 |
Sparks | should be | 15:54 |
poelcat | i think so too | 15:55 |
stickster | It seems to me all the groups that should be engaged, are | 15:55 |
Sparks | now if we can just get them to show up to a meeting! | 15:55 |
stickster | We can still establish next actions and set due dates for them | 15:55 |
Sparks | +1 to assigning work to people who aren't here. | 15:56 |
stickster | Sparks: Do you recall what the target date was to get the publictest instance updated with the packages being created? | 15:56 |
stickster | poelcat: I hope I'm not retreading old ground here | 15:56 |
* poelcat notes we have 4 min until the end | 15:56 | |
Sparks | I don't | 15:56 |
poelcat | stickster: nope | 15:56 |
Sparks | Before the RNs Alpha | 15:57 |
stickster | Sparks: When is that? | 15:57 |
* Sparks is looking | 15:57 | |
poelcat | 2009-08-18 | 15:57 |
stickster | Thanks :-) | 15:57 |
Sparks | I was going to say the 16th but I'm good with a couple extradays | 15:58 |
stickster | OK, so without a better idea of when modules are to be completed, and to leave us room to get problems worked out, what if we tried to have all the packaging work done by 23 July (Fri) or 26 July (Mon)? | 15:58 |
stickster | That seems eminently achievable | 15:59 |
stickster | I got easy packages done in about an hour | 15:59 |
poelcat | we had an initial target of "completion of all non-sponsor-needed modules by next Wednesday, July 15, 2009 " | 15:59 |
stickster | And the hard ones we should bubble up to the list for help. | 15:59 |
stickster | poelcat: Ah, so I'm slipping that date then? | 15:59 |
Sparks | except the 23rd is a Thursday and the 26th is a Sunday | 15:59 |
stickster | sorry, date fail :-) | 15:59 |
poelcat | well we need status from ke4qqq | 15:59 |
poelcat | so i'm not sure :) | 16:00 |
poelcat | we need to wrap up... I think QA meeting is next | 16:00 |
stickster | poelcat: Thanks for that date, I didn't realize we'd passed the deadline at this poitn. | 16:00 |
* adamw taps foot and looks at watch | 16:00 | |
stickster | OK, let's see if we can round up issues on list | 16:00 |
jlaska | hehe | 16:00 |
poelcat | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
stickster | Take it away QA! | 16:00 |
poelcat | #endmeeting | 16:00 |