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| mkranz | Hi folks! | |
| spevack | hi! | |
| mkranz | Anybody here for the EMEA Ambassador meeting? :) | |
| mkranz | Hi Max! | |
| * spevack waves | ||
| jmbuser | jsmith-teaching: just finished the meeting - moving to fedora-docs | |
| fcrippa | mkranz: yep ;-) | |
| jsmith-teaching | Perfect timing | |
| quaid | feel free to just grab the /topic | |
| * jsmith-teaching unlurks | ||
| quaid | since I can't get to the original on the wiki page atm | |
| zydoon | hi | |
| mkranz | Okay, does not sound like hundreds of Ambassadors ... :) | |
| * spevack tries to pull up the agenda on the wiki | ||
| tc1415 | hi all | |
| zydoon | ZiedFakhfakh | |
| mkranz | Hi, welcome all to our monthly EMEA Ambassador call. | |
| tc1415 | BenLewis | |
| Milanito | hi all | |
| jmbuser | JohnBabich | |
| spevack | Max Spevack | |
| mkranz | Matthias Kranz | |
| fcrippa | FrancescoCrippa | |
| mkranz | tc1415? | |
| mkranz | Milanito? | |
| tc1415 | BenLewis | |
| mkranz | tc1415: Ah, sorry, Ben! | |
| tc1415 | mkranz, thats ok | |
| Milanito | actually im not yet an ambassador i'm here to learn ^^ but i did ask to be one | |
| Milanito | MatthieuRondeau on the wiki | |
| mkranz | Milanito: Merci beaucoup! | |
| spevack | Milanito: welcome | |
| Milanito | ty | |
| Milanito | thanks* | |
| mkranz | Okay, then let's start with the first topic on the agenda. | |
| fcrippa | Milanito: welcome! | |
| mkranz | - News from Famsco | |
| mkranz | Anybody? | |
| spevack | If no one else from famsco is here, i can say a few words | |
| * mkranz hides since he has no clue. | ||
| AndreasR | I am here | |
| spevack | AndreasR: why don't you go ahead, and then I | |
| AndreasR | but at the moment I ve nothing to say | |
| spevack | will add on | |
| spevack | ok, I'll go then :) | |
| AndreasR | Max | |
| AndreasR | thx | |
| spevack | So I am not an "official" member of FAMSCo, but one of the things that I am spending more of my time on now < spevack> is being a "mentor" and "helper" to FAMSCo | |
| spevack | there are a few things FAMSCo is working on | |
| spevack | that will be of interest to Fedora EMEA | |
| spevack | the first is making sure that every event can have financial support | |
| spevack | Famsco will be sending an email to fedora-ambassadors-list soon | |
| spevack | but basically | |
| spevack | if you look at the Events page on the Fedora wiki | |
| glezos | Dimitris Glezos | |
| glezos | :) | |
| * jmbuser got distracted - continue Max | ||
| spevack | you will see that we break the year down into 4 quarters | |
| spevack | and we are going to plan the funding for events based on those quarters | |
| spevack | because that is how Red Hat handles its budgets | |
| spevack | For EMEA | |
| spevack | the only event left on the schedule until the end of may is linuxtag | |
| spevack | and that has a "separate" budget | |
| spevack | but for the June - August quarter, we will try to have all worldwide ambassadors update the event page by May 1 with the events that will be in June-August, and then we will be able to give funding. | |
| spevack | the email that will come out soon will have more detailed explanations | |
| spevack | any questions right now? | |
| tc1415 | ? | |
| spevack | go ahead | |
| tc1415 | I assume that that May 1st date is the deadline for having funding? | |
| tc1415 | eof | |
| spevack | Well, we want to make a deadline of "getting the list of all events" 1 month before the beginning of the quarter. | |
| spevack | So March - May is one quarter | |
| spevack | but the only event left is LinuxTag | |
| spevack | June - August is the 2nd quarter, and we want to try to know by May 1 all the events we need to fund | |
| spevack | so that there is 1 month to plan | |
| tc1415 | right, ok, just wondering | |
| spevack | similarly, the 3rd quarter will be Sep - Nov, and we will try to have an August 1 deadline | |
| spevack | ok.. good question! | |
| spevack | any other questions or comments? | |
| Milanito | ? | |
| spevack | go ahead | |
| spevack | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents in case anyone doesn't know where the events page is. | |
| Milanito | might seem silly but i was wondering how do you define event because in my school we might be organising a linux event | |
| spevack | the definition is fairly loose. | |
| spevack | in my opinion, an event is any time someone or a group of people | |
| spevack | is going to speak about Fedora, or "represent" Fedora in an official kind of way | |
| spevack | Some events are huge, like LinuxTag | |
| spevack | some events are small, like someone going to speak at a school or university. | |
| spevack | from the perspective of framsco | |
| spevack | s/framsco/FAMSCO/ | |
| spevack | what we want to know about is events that the Ambassador requires assistance either with planning, or with materials, or with content, etc. | |
| spevack | does that answer your question? | |
| Milanito | yeah pretty much the event will be more like a presentation of linux, with fedora ubuntu etc... | |
| Milanito | so i guess it can be considered as an event | |
| spevack | That is definitely something that we would be happy to assist with | |
| Milanito | thats great then | |
| spevack | feel free to add it to the page, and then as it gets closer, we will discuss/plan for it | |
| spevack | If there are no other questions, we can move on to the next agenda item. | |
| * spevack looks at mkranz :) | ||
| * mkranz feels observed. | ||
| mkranz | Okay. | |
| * spevack looks at AndreasR instead | ||
| AndreasR | not at this point | |
| AndreasR | thx | |
| AndreasR | later | |
| mkranz | Max, anything else to add from Famsco? | |
| spevack | no, that's all from me. | |
| mkranz | Okay. | |
| mkranz | Then next point of the agenda. | |
| AndreasR | ! | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: go ahead! | |
| AndreasR | I think it is important that we get the agenda points... if it is okay I want to say something at the end | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: Yes, of course. | |
| mkranz | No problem. | |
| mkranz | I think we will be through very quickly. | |
| mkranz | Next point is: | |
| mkranz | - Report current status of Ambassadors Materials Tracker and Ambassadors Membership Verification | |
| mkranz | Anybody? | |
| * mkranz hides because he had no fingers on the agenda. | ||
| spevack | The Tracker is empty. Lots of swag is being made. As requests come in, we can fill them. | |
| zydoon | ? | |
| mkranz | zydoon: go ahead. | |
| glezos | ? | |
| zydoon | as we will organising F launch day (s install party | |
| zydoon | we gonna need some media | |
| zydoon | in Tunisia | |
| spevack | ! | |
| zydoon | would you please tell me how long will take to have them shipped, | |
| mkranz | spevack: go ahead! | |
| zydoon | so I can prepare my self, if I will burn them here | |
| zydoon | eof | |
| spevack | I think that we need to make media somewhere in EMEA that can ship to other places in EMEA. And we make media in USA for places in USA. But it is a waste of money to ship CDs across the ocean, and pay for customs. | |
| spevack | Fedora can pay the bill, but I need help from locals in Europe to find a good manufacturer and price. | |
| zydoon | indeed | |
| mkranz | ! | |
| spevack | if someone wants to work with me offline, I can explain the requirements and price range. | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| mkranz | glezos: You first, then me! | |
| mkranz | glezos: Or I would like to add something to the current thread. | |
| mkranz | spevack: I could help out probably. | |
| glezos | mkranz: oh, I was just wondering a similar thing to zydoon. I'm presenting at a medium-ish event in Athens next Friday and I was wondering if there was any possibility to have some media with such late notice. | |
| mkranz | As you may know I am working for Red Hat in Munich, Germany. | |
| mkranz | We are producing the DVDs for our local CollStuffStore. | |
| spevack | glezos: nothing i can do to help, unfortunately. we're completely out of F8 media. maybe you could offer to take people's usb keys and turn them into LiveUSB's? | |
| mkranz | And we are able to get them produced for very small money. | |
| spevack | mkranz: maybe you and i can talk offline then about options for Fedora 9 | |
| glezos | spevack: excellend idea, thanks. | |
| spevack | and LinuxTag | |
| mkranz | glezos: How many DVDs do you need? | |
| mkranz | spevack: Yep, we will do. | |
| glezos | mkranz: 100-150 I guess. | |
| * spevack makes a note to follow up | ||
| mkranz | glezos: Please send me an email to mkranz redhat com with your contact details. | |
| mkranz | glezos: When do you need them? | |
| glezos | It's a FOSS community event, ie target audience not users but contributors, so I think a strong presence would be important. But I neglected letting you guys know earlier, too much happening recently. | |
| glezos | mkranz: By Thu 20/3 | |
| mkranz | glezos: Where are you located? | |
| glezos | mkranz: stuff could be shipped to Athens, Greece | |
| mkranz | Ah, I see, in Athens, Greece. | |
| zydoon | ! | |
| glezos | maybe we could take this offline, and let the meeting continue. | |
| mkranz | glezos: Pretty sure. | |
| mkranz | zydoon: go ahead! | |
| zydoon | we will holding f9 launch day 10 days after release | |
| zydoon | so if you think it's better I make the media locally, please tell me | |
| zydoon | eof | |
| mkranz | zydoon: That's a pretty tight schedule when it comes to procuding the DVDs here in Munich. | |
| zydoon | ok | |
| spevack | zydoon: if i were you | |
| zydoon | I'll do it here | |
| spevack | i would begin looking into a local producer. | |
| zydoon | ok | |
| zydoon | fine | |
| mkranz | I don't think that we are going to make it in time. | |
| spevack | because the F9 bits only are finalized 3 or 4 days before release | |
| mkranz | That's the problem. | |
| zydoon | understood | |
| spevack | it is very hard to turn around media in that kind of timeframe with any shipping | |
| zydoon | it's not a problem :) | |
| spevack | zydoon: we can help pay! please stay in touch :) | |
| zydoon | I'll handle it | |
| mkranz | Okay. | |
| zydoon | ok thanks | |
| zydoon | eof | |
| mkranz | Next point in the agenda: | |
| mkranz | - Report current status of upcoming Fedora Events in EMEA. See Fedora Events page. | |
| mkranz | Okay, anybody here who could speak about | |
| mkranz | - Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") | |
| mkranz | - FOSDEM 2008 | |
| mkranz | - Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 | |
| mkranz | - (OpenExpo 2008 Berne) | |
| mkranz | ? | |
| fcrippa | ! | |
| mkranz | I mean, in addition to the great reports we have seen on our beloved mailing list. | |
| mkranz | fcrippa: go ahead! | |
| fcrippa | I reported about "Fedora by Night" event during last Fedora EMEA Abassadors Meeting (one month ago?) | |
| fcrippa | I don't know why it's still in agenda | |
| fcrippa | by the way, you can find all information and photos here: | |
| glezos | ! | |
| mkranz | fcrippa: Do not know it, too. | |
| fcrippa | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ | |
| fcrippa | http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ | |
| * spevack remembers hearing great things about Fedora By Night and FOSDEM. | ||
| fcrippa | eof | |
| mkranz | glezos: go ahead! | |
| spevack | ! (after glezos) | |
| glezos | I found FOSDEM (once again) a *great* conference for EMEA to get together. I propose to try and somewhat advocate it as something like an annual meetup for EMEA and the L10n project. | |
| fcrippa | glezos: +1 | |
| glezos | For example, we could try and cover some expenses for making sure the EMEA folks and the (soon to be created) Fedora L10n Steering Committee could be there. | |
| glezos | (eof) | |
| mkranz | spevack: go ahead! | |
| spevack | glezos: on the subject of FOSDEM | |
| spevack | glezos: the CommunityArchitecture team | |
| (which I am now part of) has listed LinuxTag and FOSDEM as the two *major* European events. Each gets its own separate funding. We have $15,000 USD set aside for FOSDEM 2009, so your vision will be reality. | ||
| spevack | on the topic of events in general | |
| glezos | fantastic. | |
| spevack | I think the reports on ambassadors-list and Fedora Planet have been very high quality lately, and I am happy. | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| mkranz | spevack: I think we all are happy about this! | |
| jmbuser | +1 | |
| AndreasR | :) | |
| spevack | AndreasR always tells me I need to smile more :) | |
| AndreasR | right | |
| mkranz | Okay, last minor topic in this major bullet point is: | |
| mkranz | - News about LinuxTag 2008 | |
| mkranz | Anybody? | |
| spevack | well, Gerold is not here right now, but I have been paying attention and I believe that everything is on target. | |
| AndreasR | +1 | |
| spevack | We should be sure to get a big update next month, since it will be only 5 weeks before LinuxTag | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| mkranz | spevack: I will talk to Gerold about it. | |
| valent | npr. za placanje standova za konferencije | |
| AndreasR | ! | |
| mkranz | By the way, for all people who are interested: | |
| mkranz | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: go ahead! | |
| spevack | mkranz: you will be at LT? | |
| valent | sorry wrong irc window | |
| AndreasR | you are right I talked to him yesterday... they are doing well | |
| AndreasR | but I think it is better to wait...till next week | |
| mkranz | spevack: I will try to make it, yes. | |
| AndreasR | Gerold or someone else will give us an update | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| spevack | Gerold is very busy at work right now, I believe. | |
| AndreasR | yes | |
| mkranz | spevack: But as you know, it is the most important quarter in the history of ... | |
| mkranz | Okay. | |
| mkranz | Next point. | |
| spevack | mkranz: LOL | |
| mkranz | - Status of the NPO | |
| mkranz | We have seen the reports about FOSDEM and the "side note" of the NPO :) | |
| mkranz | Anybody here wants to add something to it? | |
| spevack | I don't think any of the Board Members of the NPO are here right now..... | |
| spevack | Gerold, Jeroen, and Robert | |
| mkranz | I would propose that Gerold should give an update/introduction about this next month as well! | |
| AndreasR | ! | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: go ahead! | |
| fcrippa | spevack: ...and Fabian ;-) | |
| AndreasR | I will talk tomorrow with gerold...he will be informed | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: Great! Thanks a lot. | |
| mkranz | Last point on our agenda: Open floor! | |
| mkranz | Anybody wants to speak about anything? | |
| spevack | i have one | |
| mkranz | Let's gather some points. | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: You wanted to add something? | |
| AndreasR | jep | |
| AndreasR | is it the time | |
| * spevack will go after andreas | ||
| AndreasR | As a famsco member I wanted to add a small (maybe mid size) comment - | |
| AndreasR | As you know currently famsco got some tasks for what they (we) are ... EventBudget... helping with events...etc... you can read it on the wiki... | |
| AndreasR | but everything will not work if we will not get information from you... | |
| AndreasR | so as Francesco did it in the past I want to do it again - | |
| AndreasR | We need you to do this job - Information is the key.. and you are the source - | |
| AndreasR | so please if there is a problem or anything else we can be helpfull please don't be (don't know that term)... let us know - please send us mails - send us informations - reports... everything we can work with | |
| AndreasR | Max something to add .... | |
| rsc | mkranz: sorry, I'm very late. Status of NPO is, that we'll be on monday at the register court to get e.V. and we can really start hopefully soon. | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| mkranz | AndreasR: +1 | |
| jmbuser | As a fellow member of FAmSco, a big +1 | |
| jmbuser | eof | |
| mkranz | rsc: Thanks for the update. | |
| spevack | +1 to Andreas also | |
| mkranz | Okay, spevack go ahead! | |
| spevack | I just wanted to add quickly -- some of you already have seen on my blog (http://spevack.livejournal.com) but Red Hat will be sending me to Europe in May to take a leadership role in community building and fedora through the EMEA region. Very exciting for all of us, and gives me a chance to work much closer with folks like mkranz and all our Fedora Ambassadors | |
| spevack | My job will be to lead Fedora/Red Hat community efforts throughout EMEA. | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| Milanito | ! | |
| mkranz | Milanito: go ahead! | |
| * mkranz feels sorry for being unresponsive. | ||
| Milanito | ok since I'm not yet an ambassador, it a message for the future, but I try to get involved in the community, actually working with the french trad team, and we are gathereing some people from the french forum in paris | |
| valent | ? | |
| Milanito | and I'd be very happy to meet and share information with people based in europe | |
| mkranz | Milanito: You probably know that there is a quite active Ambassador community in France?! | |
| Milanito | yeah I know I"ve also made contact with them | |
| mkranz | valent: You will be the next, just hang on for a second. | |
| Milanito | but since I'm here why not say so too ^^ | |
| valent | where will these EMEA meetings take place? Which countries? In Croatia for example I just statred to be ambassador.... | |
| valent | sorry | |
| mkranz | Milanito: You're welcome of course! | |
| mkranz | I just wanted to make sure that you know about it :) | |
| Milanito | for example there will be next friday a meeting about fedora with some guy of the french forums | |
| #fedora-meeting: < Milanito> eof | 21:49 | |
| #fedora-meeting: < mkranz> valent: What do you mean with "EMEA meetings"? | 21:49 | |
| valent | where will these EMEA meetings take place? Which countries? In Croatia for example I just statred to be ambassador.... | |
| valent | and there isn't really some community but I'm willing to travel somewhere to a fedora emea meeting in a country not too far from croatia. | |
| valent | I mean emea meetings with max | |
| spevack | valent: i will be traveling to many events throughout emea | |
| valent | eof | |
| spevack | valent: one of the goals that we have with our increased funding for events | |
| spevack | is specifically in order to help Ambassadors with travel costs from time to time | |
| spevack | so that people who are spread in different countries | |
| spevack | all have a chance to meet face to face | |
| valent | ? | |
| spevack | go ahead | |
| valent | That is clear to me... but you still don't know where exactly | |
| valent | that is why I wanted to know. | |
| valent | eof | |
| spevack | well, LinuxTag in Berlin is the next really big event that many Fedora people will be at. | |
| spevack | beyond that, I have to look at the list.... | |
| spevack | one of the things that we will discuss | |
| spevack | as a community | |
| valent | ok, I'll be reading your blog and stocking you :) | |
| spevack | once I am settled in Europe | |
| mkranz | spevack: By the way. Do you already know where exactly in Europe you want to settle? :) | |
| spevack | is having one or two "Fedora Ambassador Days" where we gather people together. Maybe one in Western Europe (using LinuxTag) and something else in Eastern Europe. | |
| mkranz | Not that Europe is really big but ... | |
| mkranz | ;) | |
| spevack | mkranz: all the conversations I have had with HR have focused on my "home base" being the Netherlands. | |
| spevack | but i will do a good bit of travel to various places... compared to getting around the US I am not too worried :) | |
| spevack | any other questions for me? | |
| valent | nope | |
| GeroldKa | hi all | |
| mkranz | spevack: Ah, great. Bring some Regenstiefel then. | |
| spevack | valent: we'll stay in touch. we know where to find each other ;) | |
| spevack | hi GeroldKa! | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: Great to see you. | |
| GeroldKa | sorry for beeing late :-( | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: No prob at all. | |
| fcrippa | GeroldKa: jusy in time | |
| spevack | well, unless GeroldKa wants to give a quick update about LinuxTag, I think we are almost done? | |
| GeroldKa | was with a accident (Volleyball) at the hospital | |
| GeroldKa | but not me :-) | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: Lucky you! | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: I wonder, if you would like to give a brief status of the preparation of LinuxTag? | |
| mkranz | Just a quick one? | |
| mkranz | And then we are through for tonight. | |
| GeroldKa | well ... | |
| GeroldKa | I asked the team for an update but I don't receive any responds till now | |
| GeroldKa | we have a reserved booth ... | |
| GeroldKa | we have a lot of things planed | |
| GeroldKa | we have a confirmed and reserved room contingent in Berlin | |
| GeroldKa | and we have a lot of VIPs at Linuxtag | |
| GeroldKa | that's all at the moment :-( | |
| spevack | AndreasR: tell Gerold to smile! | |
| GeroldKa | unfortunatly I'm waiting for trouble shooting contest, also confirmation of FUDCon | |
| AndreasR | sir , yes , sir | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: No prob at all. | |
| AndreasR | Gerold smile | |
| GeroldKa | :-) | |
| AndreasR | max.. | |
| mkranz | That's a big smile, indeed. | |
| mkranz | Okay. | |
| GeroldKa | one "leader" to rule them all ........ | |
| GeroldKa | *g* | |
| mkranz | I'd like to finish then with the official part of the meeting. | |
| mkranz | And then we might have some virtual beer together. | |
| mkranz | ;) | |
| mkranz | Anything to add by anyone? | |
| * spevack will buy people real beer in Berlin | ||
| mkranz | 5 | |
| mkranz | 4 | |
| mkranz | 3 | |
| valent | +1 | |
| GeroldKa | ! | |
| mkranz | Shit. | |
| spevack | thank you everyone -- please email me with anything you need | |
| mkranz | GeroldKa: go ahead! | |
| GeroldKa | I take that point Max, and I'll remember you .... | |
| mkranz | Ah, okay. | |
| GeroldKa | day by day :-P | |
| mkranz | 2 | |
| GeroldKa | eof | |
| mkranz | 1 | |
| * mkranz is ringing the bell. | ||
| mkranz | See you next time then. | |
| spevack | mkranz: thanks for leading the meeting | |
| jmbuser | :-D | |
| AndreasR | have a good night or whatever | |
| AndreasR | will need coffee | |
| zydoon | good night everyone and thank you | |
| mkranz | spevack: You're welcome! | |
| mkranz | Thank you all for attending this call tonight. I wish you a pleasant night - Gute Nacht! See/read you next month. | |
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