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Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Meeting - 2008-04-18
| spevack | FAMSCo meeting starting shortly.... | |
| spevack | fugolini, iWolf, ping | |
| iWolf | pong | |
| fabian_a | pong | |
| fugolini | here | |
| fugolini | yes, i'm going to hold a really short meeting due to an event tomorrow | |
| fugolini | see mktg channel for more infos :P | |
| fugolini | We can start with the roll call: | |
| fugolini | FrancescoUgolini | |
| iWolf | JeffreyTadlock | |
| fabian_a | FabianAffolter | |
| spevack | Maxspevack | |
| stickster | PaulWFrields (auditing) | |
| stickster | heh, no credit for me | |
| iWolf | :) | |
| fugolini | it's a pleasure for us | |
| fugolini | First of all take a look at the agenda: | |
| fugolini | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2008-April/msg00058.html | |
| spevack | fugolini: I don't want to hijack your agenda, but it seems like the most important thing to discuss is funding requests for F9 release parties, right? | |
| * spevack sits back and lets fugolini drive the meeting :) | ||
| fugolini | it's the first issue in the agenda | |
| fugolini | No problem, tell me whenever you want what you want | |
| fugolini | so 1. Release Events status | |
| fugolini | spevack: have you something to say about this? | |
| fugolini | As all of you read | |
| spevack | well, I think we just need to go down the list of requests, and pick some budget numbers, and then let the people know | |
| spevack | and get them they money | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| fugolini | we just need to go down the list of requests > here? | |
| spevack | yep | |
| fugolini | ok, just give me the time to open my email client | |
| iWolf | We should be able to go off the Event Page. | |
| spevack | in fact, we should go off th eevent page | |
| spevack | because the message we're trying to hammer home to ambassadors is | |
| spevack | "if it's not on the events page, it doesn't exist" | |
| iWolf | So first up is the Central Ohio Release party. | |
| iWolf | Who's running that thing? :) | |
| iWolf | I don't know the amount of money, last time we spent $80 on media that we paid for out of our own pocket. | |
| iWolf | Anything in the $50 to $100 range would be helpful. | |
| spevack | Is it fair to say something like $100 or $150 for each event? | |
| iWolf | spevack: I'm all for that. | |
| spevack | give everyone the same amount, and just let them do what they think is best with it? | |
| fabian_a | +1 | |
| spevack | how many release events are there so far? /me only sees 3 | |
| * spevack pulls up the budget | ||
| iWolf | yeah, only three for N.A. right now, gregdek said he was going to drum up some release party support in S.A. too. | |
| fugolini | N.A.? | |
| iWolf | And I am hoping to announce a release party contest to draw in a few more entries - hopefully it will draw in some more. | |
| fugolini | North America? | |
| iWolf | fugolini: yep, sorry. | |
| spevack | I'm looking at our budget for the remainder of this quarter | |
| spevack | betweeen now and the end of May | |
| spevack | we've got about $7,000 USD left | |
| spevack | and aside from the release parties, there is not much left to fund | |
| spevack | Of course, the one BIG EXPENSE | |
| spevack | is the creation of CDs and DVDs | |
| spevack | I'd like to have at least $5,000 for that... because we end up sending those discs to lots of places. | |
| spevack | Of course, we will also make media out of the LinuxTag budget (which is separate) for Europe | |
| spevack | and out of next quarter's FUDCon budget (which is separate) for North America. | |
| spevack | so anyway, I think we should start by thinking -- how well can we support the various release events for about $1,000 | |
| spevack | and if we need to spend more, we will | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| spevack | What do you all think? | |
| iWolf | $1000 will get us 10 release parties, which we don't have yet. | |
| spevack | my goal is to give you guys context and options, but let you decide how to spend the money :) | |
| iWolf | So that is probably a good starting point. | |
| fugolini | tomorrow i will discuss about this issue with the other italian ambassadors | |
| iWolf | If we get more than 10, then we have a small buffer for a little additional money to help them. | |
| iWolf | For late comers we could always reduce funding to $50 and reward the early birds with the $100 amount. | |
| spevack | So there's the guy from Los Angeles (grady?) and iWolf who are probably just waiting to be told "here is your budget of $X" | |
| fugolini | two days ago i joined the emea meeting to invite people organizeing such events | |
| spevack | and then they can get started | |
| fabian_a | i think that there will not be 0 events | |
| fabian_a | sorry, 10 | |
| fabian_a | because in emea there are no parties planned so far | |
| fugolini | As i wrote in the list, each famsco member has to invite ambs | |
| fugolini | e.g. in Italy we will plan those event tomorrow | |
| fugolini | I think we need local coordination because it's really difficult to organize something from the high | |
| fugolini | Now you were talking about America | |
| spevack | fugolini: +1 -- we just want to give people the "ok" to spend a certain amount o fmoney, and know that they will be paid back :) | |
| fugolini | I think the situation now is not well defined, and if we consider we have 2 weeks more, we can work to sponsor the release events | |
| fugolini | just a question: Is possible to use fedora announce as a "katapult" for the Release events organization? | |
| iWolf | i hope we can get some more going, but right now was have three on the event page which letsus have 7 more at full funding of $100 per event. | |
| spevack | fugolini: absolutely | |
| iWolf | so, we have room to grow the number of events. | |
| fugolini | Ok, what now? | |
| fugolini | Can we move on with contest? | |
| spevack | wait.. | |
| iWolf | Do we want to vote on going with $100 per release event? | |
| spevack | we haven't clearly decided this issue. | |
| spevack | I want us to be able to write an email to Fedora Ambassadors list tonight that says: | |
| spevack | FAMSco is going to sponsor up to 10 Fedora 9 release parties worldwide. | |
| spevack | We already have X on the FedoraEvents page. | |
| spevack | We'd like more, and you should plan to have a budget of $100 - $150 USD for each. | |
| * spevack thinks we should vote on this | ||
| iWolf | +1 | |
| fabian_a | +1 | |
| spevack | and then, if it passes, decide an Owner who will be accountable for sending that email and helping to coordinate | |
| fugolini | +1 too | |
| spevack | +1 (though I am unofficial) :) | |
| fugolini | Before we could continue, | |
| iWolf | the CFO's vote is never unofficial :) | |
| spevack | fugolini: what were you going to say? | |
| fugolini | I wajust the time to thinl | |
| fugolini | *write | |
| fugolini | For the next meeting i will prefer to have a discussion of the issue in the list before the meeting | |
| spevack | fugolini: that is my fault... I have had a very busy week and didn't have time to write all my thoughts in advance. | |
| fugolini | because i can't follow clearly, at this time (22.00), all the discussion and i'm out of date | |
| fugolini | *it seems i'm out of date | |
| fugolini | if you consider i was awake since 5.30 | |
| spevack | fugolini: no need to apologize... | |
| fugolini | I hope you'll understand me | |
| fugolini | spevack: i wasn't talking about you | |
| spevack | fugolini: so are we all agreed on the general plan for the Release Events and budget? If so, we can move on. | |
| fugolini | i have to apologize with you | |
| fugolini | because i can't lead as i want | |
| fugolini | yes we can move on | |
| spevack | fugolini: you're doing great! | |
| iWolf | fugolini: agreed, you are doing just fine! | |
| spevack | If I may say one thing? | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| spevack | fugolini's job will be easier, once we all get used to having you guys, and not me, making more and more decisions about how to spend the budget. | |
| spevack | it's a learning process for us all | |
| spevack | but we are going in the right direction | |
| spevack | I will continue trying to do a better job at giving FAMSco a clear picture of our budget, and letting *you* tell *me* how to spend it, and not the other way around :) | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| fugolini | Ok | |
| fugolini | We can move on | |
| fugolini | 1. Fedora Event budget --> Max will send an email in the Ambs list | |
| fugolini | see above | |
| fugolini | Fedora Events contest | |
| fugolini | iWolf: | |
| spevack | who's going to communicate our decisions about Release Events? | |
| iWolf | I can send it. | |
| iWolf | I need to announce the contest as well. | |
| fugolini | perfect! | |
| fabian_a | thanks, iWolf | |
| iWolf | As for the contest, i posted to the famsco list some ideas. | |
| iWolf | did anyone have comments on those? Or should I just run with some of those ideas? | |
| iWolf | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2008-April/msg00062.html | |
| fugolini | as i wrote in the list, it's ok for me | |
| iWolf | if there aren't any questions a vote for the contest as outlined int eh email? | |
| fugolini | yep | |
| iWolf | +1 from me. :) | |
| spevack | sorry... i got dropped off the internet for a bit | |
| * spevack reads backward | ||
| spevack | oh, i didn't miss much! ;) | |
| fugolini | So, have you questions for such issue? | |
| fugolini | I think we have to continue the discussion of release events in the list | |
| fugolini | i invite each FAmSCo member to invite ambassadors to organize such events | |
| fugolini | eof | |
| iWolf | so hold off on announcing the contest then? | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| iWolf | Okay, I would like to announce early next week at the latest to give ambassadors time to plan in the event a laptop bag motivates them. | |
| fugolini | in fact! | |
| fugolini | Thank you iWolf for what you have done keeping the initiative up and working | |
| fugolini | i think we can briefly discuss about the other issues | |
| fugolini | any objections? | |
| fugolini | 3 | |
| fugolini | 2 | |
| fugolini | 1 | |
| fugolini | 2. Wiki CleanUp | |
| fugolini | I sent the annoncement last wednesday | |
| spevack | fugolini: what % done would you say we are with the wiki cleanup? | |
| fugolini | mhm... | |
| * fugolini is trying to open the wiki | ||
| fugolini | maybe 20/30% | |
| fugolini | if we consider the deleted page | |
| fugolini | if we remove it, the percentage drop down | |
| fugolini | i think FAmSCo has to drive directly the process | |
| fugolini | I hope after this week we could arrive at 50/60% | |
| fabian_a | i can try to push the % up during the weekend | |
| spevack | my hunch: once we know the exact date of the wiki migration to mediawiki, the number will jump up as that date gets close | |
| spevack | because people will realize "i don't want to clean that page up after migration, better to do it now or delete it" | |
| iWolf | :) | |
| fugolini | the most difficult part is to realize the aim behind the page | |
| fugolini | and you have to keep trace of what you have done, to provice the necessary informations for the future updates | |
| fugolini | *provide | |
| fugolini | Finally, we have to start with the hard job | |
| fugolini | trying to invite ambassadors to help us, i know there are some people who are wiki addicted | |
| fugolini | this is the reason i want to open to everyone the process | |
| fugolini | Any questions? | |
| iWolf | fugolini: no questions from me. | |
| fugolini | 3 | |
| fugolini | 2 | |
| fugolini | 1 | |
| fugolini | 3. Local Group Status (APAC, EMEA, North/Central/South America) | |
| fugolini | This is a new section, i think we have to discuss about local situations | |
| fugolini | We started talking about release events. Actually only N.A. has some events | |
| iWolf | N.A. needs to get their meetings going again. | |
| fugolini | APAC, EMEA, S.A. haven't defined events | |
| fugolini | *release events | |
| iWolf | We've had poor attendance, so either we need to find a new time or figure out why we can't get 5 or so people to attend. | |
| spevack | On the events page, we divide the world up into 4 sections | |
| fugolini | I think it's important to know what the local community think, because that's the only way to caught their attentions | |
| spevack | I think we should also have 4 Ambassadors meetings, monthly, one for each section. | |
| spevack | like we are trying to do, but with a plan to expand | |
| fugolini | +1^10 | |
| iWolf | speaking of which, APAC has a meeting tomorrow morning (morning EDT time). | |
| spevack | Because inside of Red Hat, we have people who are "in charge" of each area on the CommunityArchitecture team. | |
| spevack | Max -- EMEA and the overall budget | |
| iWolf | I am planning on attending as they asked for a FAmSCo presence. My kids should be up by then. | |
| spevack | Jack -- NA | |
| spevack | Greg -- SA | |
| spevack | Harish -- APAC | |
| spevack | and there are lots of other people eager to participate too | |
| spevack | fabian_a is doing a great job with the EMEA meetings | |
| fugolini | +1 | |
| GeroldKa | +1 | |
| GeroldKa | :-) | |
| fabian_a | the European meeting is working well. I query that a worldwide meeting will work but we should try again | |
| fabian_a | there are too many timezones :-) | |
| spevack | i don't understand why the NA and SA meetings are combined | |
| fugolini | language? | |
| fugolini | i don't know | |
| iWolf | spevack: I think we need to break them apart again - the time zone thing is rough. | |
| spevack | they are totally separate in terms of logistics and language barriers | |
| iWolf | spevack: agreed. | |
| fabian_a | +1 | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| iWolf | the current meeting leader is in South America, once we get the release party thing settled down I can start up a thread on splitting off to a North American meeting. | |
| fugolini | if you agree i'll write a mail to Ambs m-l to invite each area | |
| spevack | iWolf: +1, and we need to get Jack in on that just to make sure that there's someone @redhat.com to help make sure that the locals on the ground all over NA get the things that they need from RH. | |
| fugolini | to have it's own meeting, | |
| iWolf | spevack: sounds good, i can touch base with him - i can even start that ground work now. | |
| fugolini | mhm | |
| fugolini | Our first goal is to keep the local communities up and invite them to share their thought and organize themselves | |
| fugolini | Do you agree with the email idea? | |
| iWolf | fugolini: i think we have the regional meetings underway now. | |
| iWolf | APAC has theirs tomorrow. | |
| iWolf | EMEA is rockin' | |
| iWolf | and we can split the South America meeting and North America meeting. | |
| iWolf | only the North America meeting needs a leader, which I can do if needed. | |
| fugolini | sorry i don't explain my thoughts well | |
| fugolini | what now? | |
| * iWolf is getting close to needing to go | ||
| * fugolini too | ||
| spevack | i think we're pretty well set until next week | |
| fugolini | i think we could adjourn the meeting | |
| spevack | rodrigo will be back | |
| spevack | we can ask him about FISL | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| spevack | and compare that to GregDek's experiences this week | |
| spevack | since he is there | |
| spevack | you should all read his blog -- http://gregdek.livejournal.com | |
| spevack | well if we are adjourning, I want to wish you all a good weekend! | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fugolini | you too | |
| iWolf | spevack: his blog has been great! | |
| fugolini | + | |
| fugolini | +1 | |
| fugolini | == meeting adjourned == | |
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