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Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Meeting - 2008-05-21
| fabian_a | 1. 2nd Quarter Budget (see Jeffrey mail and sheet) | |
| fabian_a | 2. Release events status (+ RE contest) | |
| fabian_a | 3. Ambassadors Project status | |
| fabian_a | 4. Rules and more (just a reminder for everyone at FAmSCo) | |
| fabian_a | 5. Wiki migration | |
| fabian_a | 6. t.b.d. | |
| iWolf | I can cover budget, if people want. | |
| fabian_a | do we want to start now? | |
| jmbuser | +1 | |
| iWolf | +1 | |
| MrTom | let's go | |
| fabian_a | ok...where is Rodrigo? | |
| fabian_a | iWolf: please start with budget | |
| iWolf | Okay.... | |
| iWolf | Max updated the spreadsheet i created earlier in the week, we come in just under the $12,000 USD. | |
| iWolf | Everyone should have the spreadsheet in the email Max sent. | |
| RodrigoPadula | i'm here! | |
| iWolf | Everything on it looks good to me, I think we (famsco) just need to approve it, or make comments/suggest changes. | |
| iWolf | Since we are missing the chair, we might want to do a mailing list vote? | |
| iWolf | Questions? Comments? | |
| iWolf | eof | |
| RodrigoPadula | ! | |
| RodrigoPadula | yesterday i talk with the LATAM group | |
| RodrigoPadula | probably we will have new events do add in this spreadsheet | |
| RodrigoPadula | but... probably... | |
| RodrigoPadula | so, we can vote now | |
| iWolf | Has everyone had a chance to look at the new spreadsheet? | |
| RodrigoPadula | eof | |
| MrTom | yes for me | |
| MrTom | i find it good, however i don't know where Max will find the money for the livecd i asked for | |
| fugolini | i'm really sorry but the train had a 2h of delay | |
| fugolini | i'm just arrived at home | |
| MrTom | no pb fugolini | |
| MrTom | we started 10 min ago | |
| iWolf | fugolini: no worries, fabian_a was just getting us started - covering budget now | |
| fugolini | ok, let me go to refresh my face | |
| iWolf | MrTom: were they going to get you some media from the LinuxTag leftovers? | |
| MrTom | I don't think so | |
| iWolf | hhmm, is this for your release party? | |
| MrTom | but i'm not sure as well that max gave the final approval about it | |
| MrTom | for the release party and for Mont de Marsant in fact | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: you can continue leading the meeting | |
| iWolf | MrTom: ah, we have $1000USD set aside for the Mont De Marsant in the spreadsheet. | |
| iWolf | Will that help? | |
| MrTom | yes, but half of it would get lost in the live cd | |
| fabian_a | fugolini: we just go through the agenda point by point...there is not much to lead | |
| MrTom | i hope, i'll wait for Max thoughts about it | |
| MrTom | because he talked about extras $500 for them, then I don't really know | |
| iWolf | MrTom: sounds good, there is a little bit extra in the budget, maybe spread it across what we have allocated for you now, coupled with leftovers from LinuTag, etc. | |
| MrTom | yes | |
| fugolini | iWolf: +1 | |
| iWolf | So, are people comfortable voting on teh most recent budget Max posted this morning? | |
| iWolf | I don't want to rush it, but I also want to clear it off the plate if people are in agreement. | |
| jmbuser | Looks good to me | |
| MrTom | as well for me | |
| fabian_a | for me too | |
| RodrigoPadula | +1 | |
| iWolf | +1 from me | |
| fugolini | +1 too | |
| iWolf | Great! So Q2 budget is approved. | |
| iWolf | That should be it on the budget agenda for this week then. | |
| iWolf | fabian_a: back to you. | |
| fabian_a | ok, point 2: release events status and contest | |
| iWolf | I guess that's me again.... :) | |
| iWolf | We've been seeing lots of event reports, sounds like there have been some good events going on and lots of coverage. | |
| iWolf | the contest ends next Tuesday. | |
| iWolf | After that, I will compile a list of report links and mail the famsco list | |
| iWolf | for discussion on who we award the laptop bag to. | |
| iWolf | eof | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fugolini | ! | |
| RodrigoPadula | i'm organizing the Brazilian Release Party to the next week, where im thinking to create the Rio de Janeiro Fedora LUG | |
| fugolini | may i? | |
| RodrigoPadula | i will use this party to recruit new colaborators and members to the local user group | |
| RodrigoPadula | eof | |
| fugolini | Just a thing ... | |
| fugolini | All the release events just done had great reports and, as i could see, they were sucessfully | |
| fugolini | there are others so far, and i'm sure they will be sucessfull | |
| fugolini | what i want to say, is that we need to store all the knoledge from this first expereince | |
| fugolini | to improve the next Release Events, maybe sharing with marketing project | |
| fugolini | our ideas etc. to have a more deep media cover | |
| fugolini | i think they could be another way to have a contact with people and it could became a milestone for the future | |
| fugolini | eof | |
| jmbuser | ! | |
| fugolini | i think you can talk | |
| jmbuser | My impression is that the press coverage was pretty good for this release with many positive articles | |
| fabian_a | jmbuser: sorry | |
| jmbuser | I also noticed that local events were also covered by their local newspapers | |
| jmbuser | This is great publicity | |
| jmbuser | eof | |
| fugolini | http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2295086 --> this is an example :) | |
| fugolini | i'm saying this because i see how far marketing project is going | |
| fugolini | i think it could be a helpfull hand, yes, i think people worked and are working great, without doubtr | |
| fugolini | eof | |
| fabian_a | are we done with release events status? | |
| iWolf | fabian_a: i am. | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| RodrigoPadula | yes | |
| fabian_a | ok, next point. Ambassadors Project status | |
| fugolini | ! | |
| fabian_a | fugolini, | |
| fugolini | thank you | |
| fugolini | We are near the end of the first warter and i want to ask FAmSCo | |
| fugolini | to express what they think it's necessary to improve in the community | |
| fugolini | max suggested to work on Apac | |
| fugolini | and i think he was right, but i hope you'll give me more infos | |
| RodrigoPadula | Apac ?? | |
| fugolini | what you think we and i miss | |
| fugolini | and what we could improve | |
| fugolini | RodrigoPadula: why? | |
| RodrigoPadula | what is Apac ? | |
| jmbuser | APAC = Asia Pacific | |
| RodrigoPadula | ohh sorry | |
| fugolini | sorry, i didn't understand | |
| fugolini | just all | |
| fugolini | i hope this discussion could start here and could continue in the list | |
| fugolini | eof | |
| RodrigoPadula | ! | |
| fabian_a | RodrigoPadula, | |
| RodrigoPadula | i think not only APAC.. but CARIBEAN, and many other regions where the number of ambassors is litle | |
| RodrigoPadula | for me, we need to see in the ambassadors list where we need to improve the project | |
| RodrigoPadula | for me .. the first step is recruit ambassadors in this areas | |
| RodrigoPadula | im doing it in Brazil and others countries in latin america | |
| RodrigoPadula | eof | |
| fugolini | ! | |
| fugolini | i just wrote an email asking people feedbacks, if you desire an explicit mail i could write it. just tell me | |
| fabian_a | i think that we need to work in every region because a lot of idle or inactive ambassadors in the country list doesn't reflect a big community | |
| iWolf | fabian_a: +1 | |
| RodrigoPadula | it's other problem! | |
| RodrigoPadula | one problem is: we dont have ambassadors | |
| fabian_a | IMHO, every member of famsco should work in his area and give a hand to apac | |
| fugolini | i think, meanwhile, we have to give a reason to people to work (and to recruit new ones) | |
| RodrigoPadula | other problem is : we have but they dont work! | |
| RodrigoPadula | in my opnion.. some ambassador need to be fired hehehe | |
| fugolini | no, nobody was hired | |
| fugolini | so nobody could be fired | |
| iWolf | fugolini: +1 | |
| jmbuser | +1 | |
| fabian_a | we have to give them a reason to work...as an ambassadors you are not an employee ;-) | |
| fugolini | i think we could invite people with any kind of activities | |
| fugolini | e.g. Release Party are a simple way to tell people: you can enjoy yourself spreading the Fedora voice | |
| RodrigoPadula | many people join us to see names on the list | |
| RodrigoPadula | as ambassadors | |
| RodrigoPadula | i have another vision of the Ambassadors Project | |
| fugolini | RodrigoPadula: probably you are right, but i think we have to see the other side of the glass (not the empty one) | |
| RodrigoPadula | if we have great ambassador... it's sounds good to the project | |
| RodrigoPadula | but names in the list.. not sounds goog | |
| RodrigoPadula | good | |
| fugolini | but we have great ambassadors, and i can tell you the names, (you see them in the list, in the planet, in the real life meeting etc) | |
| RodrigoPadula | yes | |
| fugolini | RodrigoPadula: this is a cons of a community made by volunteers | |
| RodrigoPadula | i thinks it's 10% of all ambassadors | |
| RodrigoPadula | for you what is a volunteer ? | |
| fugolini | not in the military sense | |
| RodrigoPadula | we have some ghosts on the ambassadors list | |
| Southern_Gentlem | ! | |
| fugolini | but if you close the door, people whould be scared | |
| fugolini | Southern_Gentlem: | |
| fugolini | osp sorry fabian_a | |
| fugolini | i forget | |
| Southern_Gentlem | RodrigoPadula, people volunteer to give their time, sometimes people need to be guided to the next tasks, or they get bored | |
| RodrigoPadula | no... i'm not talking to close the door | |
| Southern_Gentlem | and there has been talk of clearing out the ambassadors list before and it ticked alot of the good ambassador off eof | |
| fabian_a | we have some ghosts but we are maybe able to bring this ghosts back to live | |
| fabian_a | Southern_Gentlem: +1 | |
| RodrigoPadula | here in brazil we have many volunteers, when this volunteer is working frequently i invite this to the project | |
| Southern_Gentlem | ! | |
| fabian_a | if the e-mail addresses still are valid ;-) | |
| fabian_a | Southern_Gentlem, | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: +1 :) | |
| RodrigoPadula | the problem is... the local project not is the first contact in your contries | |
| Southern_Gentlem | RodrigoPadula, please use meeting protocol | |
| RodrigoPadula | sorry! | |
| RodrigoPadula | eof | |
| Southern_Gentlem | i am Fedora ambassador for this area did i have a release party for f9 no because my college is on Summer break, this fall i will be involved with my local lug to have a release party for f10 eof | |
| RodrigoPadula | ! | |
| fabian_a | RodrigoPadula, | |
| RodrigoPadula | in brazil... we are the interface between the Fedora Project and the community | |
| RodrigoPadula | so, we recruit collaborators | |
| RodrigoPadula | and guide this ambassadors to contribute with the projects | |
| RodrigoPadula | when a collaborator work constantly | |
| RodrigoPadula | i invite this to the ambassadors project | |
| RodrigoPadula | so, in the ambassadors list we have only active ambassors | |
| RodrigoPadula | 90% | |
| RodrigoPadula | the local project need to copy this model! | |
| Southern_Gentlem | ! | |
| RodrigoPadula | to drive and guide the local community | |
| RodrigoPadula | to work and represent the fedora locally | |
| RodrigoPadula | eof | |
| fugolini | the problem is that, here, we haven't sign any contract or any kind of obligation with fedora project, because fedora project is not an association nor a company. It's a group of people that give freely without any duty their time | |
| fabian_a | Southern_Gentlem, | |
| RodrigoPadula | i agree.. but the local projects need to guide your local members! | |
| Southern_Gentlem | RodrigoPadula, i understand what you are staying, but are you saying because i am not living and breathing Fedora every minute of every day i am not an active ambassadar? | |
| Southern_Gentlem | i for one have a lot of college students who are getting interested in helping with fedora,, but the majority do not have the spare time | |
| Southern_Gentlem | eof | |
| fugolini | Southern_Gentlem: yep :) | |
| fugolini | RodrigoPadula: have you a proposal to make now or in the next day (trought the list) | |
| fugolini | ? | |
| RodrigoPadula | yes | |
| fugolini | now? | |
| RodrigoPadula | on the list | |
| RodrigoPadula | later | |
| * iWolf is running out of time | ||
| fugolini | perfect, i think it could improve the discussion | |
| fugolini | iWolf: i agree with you (i have to eat, cleat etc.) :) | |
| Southern_Gentlem | laters | |
| fabian_a | i suggest to skip the last points | |
| jmbuser | +1 | |
| iWolf | +1 | |
| RodrigoPadula | +1 | |
| MrTom | yes | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fabian_a | anything else for today? | |
| iWolf | not from me. | |
| RodrigoPadula | not | |
| fabian_a | meeting has been adjourned... | |
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