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Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Meeting - 2008-07-23
| spevack | yes, the FAMSco meeting is now | |
| * stickster backs away, trembling | ||
| cmpahar | thanks spevack | |
| stickster | "h-ha-have a good meeting..." | |
| cmpahar | i was worried about the time :P | |
| fugolini | ok, i think we can start | |
| fugolini | Roll call, please | |
| fugolini | FrancescoUgolini | |
| spevack | Max Spevack | |
| cmpahar | w8 to plug my laptop :P | |
| AndreasR | AndreasRau | |
| fabian_a | FabianAffolter | |
| cmpahar | ChristosBacharakis | |
| cmpahar | ready :) | |
| cmpahar | guys?! | |
| spevack | we're here | |
| fugolini | Ok, we can start | |
| cmpahar | allright | |
| fugolini | Meeting agenda: | |
| fugolini | 1. Budget | |
| fugolini | 2. Rules and more | |
| fugolini | 3. Mentors | |
| fugolini | 4. t.b.d. | |
| spevack | ok, budget | |
| spevack | i sent out an email earlier today | |
| spevack | as always, the most updated numbers are here: | |
| * spevack goes to find the link | ||
| spevack | Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget | |
| spevack | we're in good shape for the last 5 weeks of the quarter. we planned very well | |
| spevack | including the "buffer zone" that we left ourselves back in beginning of June in case we went a little bit over | |
| fabian_a | next point? | |
| spevack | the goal all along was $13-$15k | |
| spevack | and we are going to be in that window | |
| spevack | everything on the list is either finished, or in process of being taken care of | |
| spevack | i sent email about Fedora Infinity Day earlier today | |
| spevack | and the budget transfer to Fedora EMEA e.V. is also being worked on | |
| spevack | i also sent a reminder about the August 1 deadline for Q3 events | |
| spevack | FedoraEvents | |
| spevack | there are 17 events + FUDCon on there now | |
| spevack | and that is a lot | |
| spevack | any questions or comments? | |
| cmpahar | no | |
| fugolini | nothing to add | |
| AndreasR | nope | |
| cmpahar | not from me :) | |
| spevack | i think we're in good shape | |
| spevack | i'm not too worried this week :) | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| fugolini | Ok, anyone else? | |
| AndreasR | fine for me | |
| fugolini | Personally i hope to read more reports as possible in the planet and in the list | |
| cmpahar | i am covered :) | |
| fugolini | i know with the recent changes in the planet software someone is missing. Moreover i want to than for all the reports i read | |
| * spevack wrote a trip report to planet, but forgot to send it to the list today | ||
| fugolini | because they explain in a good way what we want | |
| spevack | i will do that | |
| fugolini | spevack: thank you:) | |
| fugolini | i think everyone is updated with planet | |
| fugolini | eof | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| cmpahar | yeah | |
| fugolini | 2. Rules and more | |
| fugolini | I have no updates for this week for such issue, i've some changes in the scheme and i hope to refine those | |
| fugolini | so that i can fastly update the Tasks List page | |
| fugolini | and can give a guideline to compile it | |
| fugolini | if you have question i'm here, if no i will skip to the next issue | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fugolini | next one | |
| fugolini | 3.Mentors | |
| fugolini | If you take a look in the list you will find a specific thread about this issue | |
| fugolini | Just to be clear: | |
| fugolini | Susmit submit a draft proposal | |
| fugolini | i paste this one here | |
| fugolini | "Let me explain, as students participate and successfully finishes (Of | |
| fugolini | course there would be review committees for the verifying progress.) | |
| fugolini | their project with Fedora we need to issue them with a certificate of | |
| fugolini | successful completion." | |
| fugolini | As he said it would be a great way to have future contributors | |
| fugolini | Maybe you can ask why Ambassadors are discussion about it | |
| fugolini | but i think that's part of our daily job | |
| fugolini | to invite people | |
| spevack | so... what exactly are we talking about here? | |
| spevack | ressurecting the Fedora Mentors program? | |
| AndreasR | thanks | |
| MrTom | sorry i'm late dudes | |
| spevack | or something only for ambassadors? | |
| fugolini | i think Susmit talking about a global initiative | |
| AndreasR | ? | |
| fugolini | i took in consideration this initivative from an Ambassador persepctive | |
| cmpahar | yeah, but he is talking about certificate, i good right | |
| fugolini | for a whole inititive i think board could be the right place | |
| fugolini | *fedora board | |
| cmpahar | *got right | |
| fugolini | I think we could work on this draft, just because it could be a good way, see Seneca college facts | |
| cmpahar | excuse me, but what certification he asks for.. | |
| cmpahar | to certificate, what?! | |
| fugolini | that you worked for Fedora project | |
| cmpahar | i see | |
| fugolini | as Ambassadors | |
| fugolini | that's an example | |
| cmpahar | thank you | |
| cmpahar | can we do something about that?! | |
| fugolini | I'm here because i promised to give a answer to him, i preferred to discuss with all of you about this prroposal | |
| spevack | fugolini: i have obviously missed several emails in this thread, because i am very confused right now | |
| fugolini | ok, give me few seconds to catch the thread | |
| spevack | fugolini: Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme/Draft | |
| spevack | this? | |
| spevack | this is REALLY interesting | |
| fugolini | Yes | |
| spevack | and i'm sorry i missed it before | |
| AndreasR | ? | |
| spevack | how do i say this -- i think that it is something that is bigger even than famsco | |
| fugolini | AndreasR: | |
| fugolini | in fact | |
| AndreasR | to get the right point.. | |
| spevack | because we are already doing fedora interns, and we are trying to figure out a larger strategy for interacting with schools and fedora | |
| AndreasR | who will guide this initiative.. I mean who will take care of this certification progress - first we will have to localize the staff (ressources) and the minds of our boardmembers about this. Certification or something like that is a seriouse topic | |
| AndreasR | eof | |
| fugolini | AndreasR: see Susmit draft | |
| AndreasR | will do | |
| spevack | i will look at this in more detail | |
| fugolini | spevack: you are right, i received this mail that i forwarded in the list | |
| spevack | i think we need to not get hung up on the idea of a certificate | |
| spevack | all a certificate is a letter of recommendation, or some sort of proof that a person made contributions to fedora | |
| fabian_a | spevack: +1 | |
| fugolini | i paid attention just because it could be a great propeller for Ambassadors | |
| spevack | I write many emails on behalf of fedora contributors, telling professors or possible employers about their contributions | |
| spevack | this is no different, really | |
| spevack | anyone who works in one section of Fedora | |
| spevack | and does a good job | |
| spevack | should have a simple time finding several other people who are willing to say "that person did a good job!" | |
| spevack | like someone already said | |
| fugolini | I think Susmit ask FAmSCo to be the certification | |
| fugolini | place | |
| spevack | i think susmit needs to use the example of Seneca College in creating any program. That is part of the idea behind what we are doing with seneca | |
| fugolini | but if it would be a wide initiative | |
| spevack | fugolini: i think famsco is the wrong place, but that the leadership teams of the specific subproject that a person works on would be a better place | |
| fugolini | i think Fedora Board or Connected Steering COmmittees could certificare | |
| fugolini | *certificate | |
| spevack | fugolini: exactly :) | |
| cmpahar | I think that if we start giving certifications sortly we will have to give some of them to some events like Fascom or FudCon | |
| fugolini | in fact, i think i missed the point when he talks about project collaboaration | |
| fugolini | i just focus on Ambs | |
| fugolini | but he was talking about a whole initiative | |
| fabian_a | FYI...the mentors program tried to do the same with "rave report" | |
| fabian_a | Mentors#Rave_Reviews | |
| spevack | it's two separate questions -- one is working with other organizations | |
| spevack | and the other is recognition | |
| spevack | formal recognition for a student in a class or a job -- that person will come to us and specifically ask | |
| spevack | general recognition is something that we continue to try new ways of doing, and i still think we have a hard time | |
| spevack | because in a community as big as ours, it's hard to recognize one person without making others feel left out | |
| cmpahar | i think sumit trying to tell that we flied many kilometers for an event | |
| cmpahar | and he took nothing.. (recognition for the rest of the world) | |
| fugolini | Ok any questions ? | |
| spevack | fugolini: i think for now, from FAMSCo's point of view, maybe report that Max is going to look into it, and also talk with Greg about it | |
| spevack | because we need to find a way to tie was sumit wants to do into the larger initiatives we are trying to work on | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| cmpahar | question | |
| fugolini | thank you spevack (and Greg) for this | |
| spevack | cmpahar: go ahead | |
| cmpahar | in the events, such as Fudcon Fascon, are you planning, giving a paper? | |
| cmpahar | a recognition?! | |
| cmpahar | ok, some of use do it for fun, for knowledge | |
| cmpahar | to know fedora better, to meet people | |
| fugolini | cmpahar: ? | |
| spevack | cmpahar: we could. personally i cannot answer yes or no to that. if we want to or need to, we can | |
| cmpahar | because, here in greece | |
| cmpahar | every student search for a paper for his/her bio | |
| cmpahar | :P | |
| cmpahar | and maybe in future events someone will come and ask for that paper | |
| cmpahar | (sorry for the bad english, i am nervous) | |
| fugolini | naturally you will receive a paper, but the institution where you are studing/workin could accept or reject it | |
| cmpahar | no for the institution, for a job reply | |
| fugolini | it's the same | |
| cmpahar | i think i am done :) | |
| cmpahar | spevack, answered me.. :) | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fugolini | Other topics to discuss? | |
| spevack | not from me | |
| fabian_a | NPO and ambassadors, perhaps? | |
| cmpahar | NPO? | |
| fugolini | ok | |
| fugolini | No profit organization | |
| fugolini | fabian_a: you have the voice :) | |
| AndreasR | non | |
| fabian_a | i just hope that we don't run into legal problems | |
| fugolini | as i underlined in the CLA it specified both a individual and an organization | |
| fugolini | as contributor | |
| fabian_a | https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/lankanet | |
| fabian_a | have no full name | |
| fabian_a | no phone number | |
| fugolini | I think those datas are necessary | |
| fugolini | maybe a new feature for Account system? | |
| fabian_a | i'm not talking about the cla...it's about the ambassador group | |
| fugolini | yes | |
| kital | ! | |
| fugolini | i didn't see that he hasn't the nuber | |
| fugolini | kital: | |
| kital | is a Limited a NPO i think not Lankanet (GTE) Ltd | |
| spevack | fabian_a: if you want to get the simplest answer as quickly as possible, just ask tom callaway :) | |
| fabian_a | spevack: ok | |
| fugolini | i tell this in the list | |
| fugolini | have you read it? | |
| spevack | i did | |
| fugolini | ops | |
| spevack | there was confusions about whether or not an organization can sign the CLA | |
| fugolini | i'm talking with fabian_a | |
| spevack | I think it is ok, but tom will know for sure ;) | |
| fugolini | absolutely | |
| fabian_a | we can spot here and i will ask spot | |
| fugolini | i give my "out of the line" opinion | |
| fabian_a | first stop then spot :-P | |
| fabian_a | eof | |
| cmpahar | how about the 4th topic? | |
| fugolini | it means to be decided/defined | |
| fugolini | it's just to have the space to discuss about more things here | |
| * cmpahar feels stupid now :P | ||
| fugolini | generally it's used in official meetings where there are specific rules about the agenda | |
| fugolini | Any other questions/objection? | |
| fugolini | I want to thank NA community for their wiki page | |
| fugolini | about their open issues etc. | |
| fugolini | and thank with all the initivative i'm reading in the list from all around the world | |
| fugolini | as I said i invite all FAmSCo members to be a helpfull hand in their local area | |
| fugolini | But today Ambassadors status meter is green | |
| fugolini | i don't see big problems or impossible ostacle | |
| fugolini | Now, if you have question or if you haven't i will adjourn the meeting | |
| spevack | fugolini: i think that by th eend of the year, we need to have a goal that NA, EMEA, LATAM, and India all have strong regional leadership and support structures in place. and i think we are well on the way to that. | |
| fugolini | absolutely | |
| spevack | and whenever a topic comes before Ambassadors or FAMSCo for discussion | |
| spevack | we must always think "what is the best solution to push authority and accountability towards the edges?" | |
| spevack | in other words, towards the local support structures, with assistance from FAMSCo and Red Hat Community Architecture when needed. | |
| spevack | I think we are doing a good job, and we must always keep the large end goal in mind. | |
| spevack | this is why it was important to me to give rodrigo official blessing to take charge in south america | |
| spevack | even if not all of famsco agreed 100% with every one of his ideas | |
| spevack | having a local leader is more important than each decision that leader makes, as long as *most* decisions are correct. | |
| spevack | just an example... | |
| spevack | EOF | |
| fugolini | You are right | |
| spevack | alright, i am done preaching :) | |
| fugolini | and what make me happy is to see great people around the world who are taking care of their local communities | |
| spevack | famsco, IMHO, is doing a great job | |
| fugolini | and Max too | |
| fugolini | :) | |
| cmpahar | tru ;) | |
| cmpahar | *true ;) | |
| fugolini | Max is part of FAmSCo | |
| fugolini | but as Community architect | |
| spevack | i'm just here to help! | |
| fugolini | Any question? | |
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