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| herlo | josephscott: so let's go through the list of items on that page just to make sure we don't miss anythign and you can quickly give your take on each. Sound good? | 16:10 |
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| herlo | josephscott is a WordPress developer and works for automattic | 16:10 |
| herlo | josephscott: Good security record | 16:10 |
| herlo | could you speak to that over maybe the last year or so? | 16:10 |
| josephscott | Most of the security issues in regards to WP have stemmed from plugins | 16:11 |
| josephscott | core WP has been pretty good about that | 16:11 |
| josephscott | steps have been taken to help make better security easier as well | 16:12 |
| herlo | josephscott: wrt plugins, what kind of security features do you have to prevent people from doing stupid things? | 16:12 |
| herlo | Proactive, security minded developer community <-- I think this speaks to the viability of WordPress some, right? | 16:12 |
| josephscott | that's part of the beast for PHP apps, plugins run with the same abilities as everything else | 16:12 |
| herlo | right | 16:13 |
| josephscott | anyone can (and has :-) ) contact security@wordpress.org which is watched by the core WP devs | 16:13 |
| herlo | Highly responsive, especially to security issues <-- do you guys have a track record somewhere we can look at for this? | 16:14 |
| josephscott | I've found them to responsive to issues brought up | 16:14 |
| herlo | quaid: you around? | 16:14 |
| josephscott | hmmm, not sure that we have a specific spot were just the details are | 16:14 |
| herlo | L10n that doesn't break the translator workflow <-- I'm not completely clear on this one, so I'll say what I know and give you a chance to | 16:14 |
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| herlo | josephscott: so the translation practice is to take the english versions when they are near final and convert them to other languages, how | 16:16 |
| would that sort of workflow be handled in wordpress? We were discussing wordpress-mu btw at points so if that helps... | ||
| josephscott | you could look at wordpress.com for example of how that could potentially end up. Say es.wordpress.com compared to en.wordpress.com | 16:18 |
| josephscott | that's done based on the language setting of individual blogs | 16:19 |
| herlo | Output for Transifex (PO/POT) <-- I was thinking maybe a plugin that converts the document to the right format wouldn't be too hard, just time consuming, thoughts? | 16:19 |
| herlo | josephscott: ^^ | 16:19 |
| josephscott | the trend seems to be more towards having different URLs for different languages, google.com compares to google.es | 16:21 |
| herlo | Content workflow (write <=> edit => publish) | 16:21 |
| josephscott | contributor role in WP can do that | 16:22 |
| josephscott | although it depends on who would be in each group | 16:22 |
| josephscott | contributor is geared for submissions that would be reviewed/approved/edited by an editor user | 16:23 |
| herlo | Content expiration (automatic) | 16:24 |
| herlo | you mentioned this one, but wanna restate here? | 16:24 |
| josephscott | herlo: I haven't seen anyone doing that in WP, would be a good candidate for a plugin (there might already be one, don't know) | 16:25 |
| herlo | josephscott: I skipped a few features but what about this one: Be a CMS as a core function, not an add-on | 16:26 |
| ianweller | Sparks: tickets are good. i guess something like fedorahosted.org/wikiczar would be nice/interesting/whatever | 16:26 |
| ianweller | s/czar// if you wish :P | 16:26 |
| herlo | some people argued that WP is not a CMS, but I've seen more and more development toward it | 16:26 |
| ianweller | herlo: it manages content, therefore is a CMS | 16:26 |
| ianweller | herlo: :) | 16:26 |
| josephscott | that mostly depends on who you ask and what they consider a CMS to be | 16:26 |
| herlo | ianweller: no argument... | 16:27 |
| herlo | josephscott: Must not lock us in. Data should be portable to another CMS. | 16:27 |
| josephscott | we've certainly been seeing more and more sites use it as a traditional CMS instead of specifically for blogs | 16:27 |
| josephscott | WXR (the WordPress export format) is RSS + extensions | 16:28 |
| herlo | how does that work? | 16:28 |
| herlo | is it simple to export? | 16:28 |
| josephscott | Tools -> Export in wp-admin | 16:29 |
| herlo | sweet, I'm gonna try that | 16:30 |
| herlo | josephscott: so on to wanted features over required | 16:30 |
| herlo | Easy to organize content by taxonomy, structured and ad hoc | 16:30 |
| josephscott | WP supports both categories (with hierarchy) and tags | 16:31 |
| herlo | Good federation tools to make it easy to find disparate content through one UI | 16:31 |
| josephscott | not sure what they mean by that | 16:31 |
| herlo | me neither, was hoping you might have a nice quip | 16:32 |
| herlo | :) | 16:32 |
| herlo | moving on | 16:32 |
| herlo | Have support for DocBook | 16:32 |
| * herlo guesses plugin, but who knows... | 16:32 | |
| josephscott | for exporting data to docbook? importing data from docbook? | 16:34 |
| Sparks | josephscott: yes | 16:34 |
| herlo | Sparks: nice | 16:34 |
| herlo | josephscott: in both cases | 16:34 |
| josephscott | it looks like there are folks who've done it: http://therowes.net/~greg/2006/03/26/integrating-docbook-and-wordpress/ | 16:35 |
| herlo | sweet! | 16:35 |
| * herlo will review that site too | 16:35 | |
| herlo | josephscott: thanks for your time, anything else you'd like to contribute before heading out | 16:36 |
| josephscott | If it's mostly import/export then you'll probably end up writing a tool/plugin to take care of that | 16:36 |
| josephscott | pick specific processes that you can break down into simple tasks and try it out | 16:37 |
| herlo | thanksD josephscott | 16:38 |
| josephscott | np | 16:38 |
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