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2009-03-17 0500 UTC on #fedora-meeting at Freenode
Agenda
Please add agenda items or propose to fedora-i18n-list ahead of the meeting.
- IBus
- F11
- I18n Bug day
- Open discussion
Log
| juhp | fedora-i18n meeting is starting here shortly | Mar 17 14:58 |
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| mharris | I always found "i18n" a funny way to abbreviate that. | Mar 17 14:59 |
| mharris | Since it is an abbreviation of the English word, and so the abbreviation isn't very international ;) | Mar 17 14:59 |
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| juhp | mharris: true | Mar 17 15:00 |
| juhp | I would not mind another name... :) | Mar 17 15:01 |
| tagoh3 | dunno who/when actually brought it up | Mar 17 15:01 |
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| mharris | Been around since the 70's or 80's no? | Mar 17 15:01 |
| mharris | that and l10n | Mar 17 15:01 |
| tagoh3 | is it so old? | Mar 17 15:02 |
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| juhp | I18N/Meetings/2009-03-17 | Mar 17 15:02 |
| mharris | "Due to their length, the terms are frequently abbreviated to the numeronyms i18n (where 18 stands for the number of letters between the i and the n in internationalization, a usage coined at DEC in the 1970s or 80s[1])" | Mar 17 15:02 |
| mharris | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I18n ;) | Mar 17 15:03 |
| juhp | oh is that what they call them cool | Mar 17 15:03 |
| tagoh3 | aha | Mar 17 15:03 |
| juhp | mharris: thanks for that - didn't know they went that far back | Mar 17 15:03 |
| juhp | learnt a new word... | Mar 17 15:04 |
| mharris | I wasn't totally sure either, just tried to remember the first time I saw i18n in usage. :) | Mar 17 15:04 |
| mharris | which word, "numeronyms"? I never heard that one before. :) | Mar 17 15:05 |
| juhp | ping paragn | Mar 17 15:05 |
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| juhp | hmm who else is missing? | Mar 17 15:06 |
| paragn | juhp, pong | Mar 17 15:06 |
| juhp | ok let's get started | Mar 17 15:06 |
| juhp | # IBus | Mar 17 15:07 |
| juhp | http://tinyurl.com/fedora-ibus-bugs | Mar 17 15:08 |
| juhp | there will be an ibus project meeting on Friday, but if there is anything we should discuss now we can | Mar 17 15:09 |
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| tagoh3 | nope from me. | Mar 17 15:12 |
| juhp | warren informed me he did a usability test with a Japanese windows user and got some helpful feedback and going to file some bugs based on that | Mar 17 15:12 |
| juhp | sorry was just going through the latest bugs | Mar 17 15:12 |
| warren | I will transcribe all the notes into text and file bugs tomorrow | Mar 17 15:12 |
| warren | 15 pages of handwritten notes | Mar 17 15:13 |
| juhp | Pravin isn't here but nearly finished ibus-sayura for Sinhala | Mar 17 15:13 |
| juhp | warren: awesome! <applause/> :) | Mar 17 15:13 |
| warren | juhp: 2 hours of user testing, Windows IME vs SCIM vs ibus | Mar 17 15:13 |
| juhp | fantastic effort! | Mar 17 15:13 |
| warren | surprisingly anthy is a lot better than I thought it was. | Mar 17 15:14 |
| warren | only ibus implemntation has problems | Mar 17 15:14 |
| warren | anyway, I really need to sleep | Mar 17 15:14 |
| juhp | we know that ibus-anthy needs some love - we need to assign the package to someone familiar with anthy/Japanese and delegate some bugs | Mar 17 15:14 |
| juhp | warren: hehe :) | Mar 17 15:15 |
| warren | (do you have Japanese engineers?) | Mar 17 15:15 |
| juhp | well there is tagoh3 and me at least | Mar 17 15:15 |
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| juhp | will try to work something out | Mar 17 15:15 |
| juhp | I think bug 488666 is the most serious bug currently for f11 | Mar 17 15:17 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=488666 medium, low, ---, phuang, ASSIGNED, candidate window cursor keybindings not intuitive | Mar 17 15:17 |
| juhp | I think it also came up in Warren's testing | Mar 17 15:18 |
| juhp | and we talked about in the last ibus meeting | Mar 17 15:18 |
| juhp | well if nothing else we can move on | Mar 17 15:18 |
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| warren | my notes will have very specific examples of key bindings being wrong | Mar 17 15:18 |
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| juhp | # great | Mar 17 15:20 |
| juhp | oops | Mar 17 15:20 |
| juhp | great | Mar 17 15:20 |
| juhp | # F11 | Mar 17 15:20 |
| juhp | I think f11 beta is freezing now, but still some churn | Mar 17 15:21 |
| juhp | I think behdad pushed a new fontconfig which probably needs testing | Mar 17 15:22 |
| juhp | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=94136 | Mar 17 15:22 |
| *juhp tries it | Mar 17 15:24 | |
| juhp | that is also supposed to fix gdm lang menu breakage | Mar 17 15:24 |
| juhp | any other f11 issues or concerns to discuss? | Mar 17 15:24 |
| juhp | I think recent rawhide is installable so now is a good time to test for beta and after | Mar 17 15:25 |
| tagoh3 | aha. good to hear. let me try later.. | Mar 17 15:25 |
| juhp | though I did try today.. so can't guarantee :) | Mar 17 15:26 |
| *K410 is glad that dont need to use F11 alpha | Mar 17 15:27 | |
| juhp | let me see if I can see any target or blocker bugs | Mar 17 15:28 |
| juhp | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446452 | Mar 17 15:32 |
| buggbot | <http://tinyurl.com/ddk34l> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | Mar 17 15:32 |
| juhp | hmm not sure if hanja counts as a blocker or feature, but would be nice to have certainly | Mar 17 15:33 |
| juhp | sorry again for the pause | Mar 17 15:35 |
| juhp | updated tracker links on I18N/Bugs | Mar 17 15:35 |
| juhp | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=446451 | Mar 17 15:35 |
| buggbot | <http://tinyurl.com/ct9cnl> (at bugzilla.redhat.com) | Mar 17 15:35 |
| juhp | ok mostly ibus stuff | Mar 17 15:36 |
| *juhp feels like we are missing more bugs | Mar 17 15:37 | |
| juhp | anything else for f11? | Mar 17 15:37 |
| juhp | # I18n Bug day | Mar 17 15:38 |
| K410 | I have fixed that 490496 yesterday but all bz comments are reverted? | Mar 17 15:38 |
| juhp | bug 490496 | Mar 17 15:38 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=490496 medium, low, ---, ajax, NEW, X hangs at GDM with intel modesetting | Mar 17 15:38 |
| juhp | K410: ? | Mar 17 15:38 |
| K410 | juhp☺ http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=94234 , thats ok, pls go on | Mar 17 15:39 |
| K410 | 490396 | Mar 17 15:39 |
| juhp | K410: comments lost? | Mar 17 15:40 |
| K410 | juhp☺ ok, I am doing it again just now. | Mar 17 15:41 |
| juhp | ok | Mar 17 15:41 |
| juhp | # I18n Bug day | Mar 17 15:41 |
| juhp | I18N/Bugs | Mar 17 15:41 |
| juhp | our bug count is up a bit again and now that we are in the bugfixing period for f11 I thought it would be good to do fedora-i18n bug day to get on top of them a bit | Mar 17 15:42 |
| juhp | maybe in two weeks time - after Beta is out? | Mar 17 15:45 |
| juhp | what do people think? | Mar 17 15:46 |
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| juhp | today there are 190 i18n-team bugs open | Mar 17 15:46 |
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| tagoh3 | sounds good to me | Mar 17 15:47 |
| juhp | then I will send out a announcement later - perhaps we can coordinate something with fedora-qa too | Mar 17 15:47 |
| juhp | cool | Mar 17 15:47 |
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| juhp | # Open Discussion | Mar 17 15:49 |
| juhp | anyone brought any other topics along and come up with anything else to talk about? | Mar 17 15:50 |
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| *juhp was just looking at open reviews | Mar 17 15:50 | |
| juhp | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=Package Review&bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,MODIFIED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=fedora-i18n-bugs%40redhat.com | Mar 17 15:52 |
| juhp | now that ibus-table-cangjie is in fedora the rest of the tables should be easier to do | Mar 17 15:54 |
| juhp | well if there is nothing else... ? | Mar 17 15:54 |
| juhp | then let's close the meeting today | Mar 17 15:55 |
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| juhp | thanks to everyone who joined :) | Mar 17 15:55 |
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