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| jsmith | #startmeeting Fedora Board IRC Meeting | 18:00 |
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| zodbot | Meeting started Fri Oct 15 18:00:49 2010 UTC. The chair is jsmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:00 |
| jsmith | #meetingname Fedora Board | 18:00 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_board' | 18:00 |
| jsmith | #topic Open Q&A with Fedora Board members | 18:01 |
| * jds2001 here | 18:01 | |
| jsmith | I guess we ought to do roll call, for the record | 18:01 |
| * ctyler waves | 18:01 | |
| jsmith | Board members who are here, please make yourselves known | 18:01 |
| * jsmith is here | 18:01 | |
| * ctyler waves again | 18:01 | |
| * jds2001 waves frantically | 18:02 | |
| jsmith | OK, I see smooge and rdieter lurking... | 18:02 |
| smooge | here | 18:02 |
| smooge | sorry | 18:02 |
| jsmith | No worries | 18:02 |
| rdieter | yo | 18:02 |
| jsmith | As a reminder, we'll use our typical protocol as listed at Board_public_IRC_meetings | 18:03 |
| jsmith | Board members are encouraged to jump right in and speak | 18:03 |
| jsmith | And with that... let's go ahead and jump into Q&A | 18:03 |
| jsmith | rdieter: Thanks for your post to the advisory board list about the CWG | 18:04 |
| rdieter | figured we didnt have enough flames or bikeshedding lately. :) | 18:04 |
| jsmith | My bike shed is still white, and still needs a door before winter time rolls around :-) | 18:04 |
| jds2001 | the bike shed shall be red! | 18:05 |
| rdieter | peuce | 18:05 |
| jsmith | Ah, we have mdomsch here as well :-) | 18:05 |
| mdomsch | late as always | 18:05 |
| jsmith | No worries | 18:05 |
| jsmith | Slow week -- no questions so far | 18:06 |
| jsmith | While we're waiting for questions, I'll let everybody know that I won't be around for Monday's meeting | 18:06 |
| * jsmith will be on a plane | 18:06 | |
| jsmith | (again) | 18:06 |
| jds2001 | oh, can you give someone the mod code then? :) | 18:06 |
| jds2001 | we all sat around like idiots last monday :) | 18:07 |
| jsmith | Sorry :-( | 18:07 |
| rdieter | 2 things to throw out as ideas to talk about: 1. f15 name, where are we? 2. (plug) User:Rdieter/Draft_Fedora_Community_Working_Group | 18:07 |
| jsmith | As for the name, we're very clearly behind schedule on that (totally my fault) | 18:07 |
| * rdieter whips jsmith with wet noodle | 18:07 | |
| jsmith | Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_15 | 18:08 |
| jsmith | The schedule is there as well -- we're accepting name nominations until the end of the day (UTC) on Tuesday the 19th. | 18:08 |
| jsmith | So not much more time to get your names in | 18:08 |
| rdieter | ok, gotcha. get the word out. | 18:10 |
| jsmith | Exactly :-) | 18:10 |
| * jds2001 votes for bacon! :D | 18:10 | |
| jsmith | I posted to the announce list, but nobody ever reads those announcements | 18:10 |
| jds2001 | it has ~10000 subscribers :) | 18:10 |
| jds2001 | 10131 to be exact :) | 18:11 |
| jsmith | Nice... | 18:12 |
| jsmith | The other thing we need to get the word out about is the elections cycle | 18:12 |
| jds2001 | so is paul still going to take care of that? | 18:12 |
| rdieter | that too, fun. | 18:12 |
| jsmith | I'll post a proposed schedule here shortly -- did anybody talk to Paul Mellors about being the wrangler? | 18:12 |
| jsmith | (It wasn't clear from our meeting on the 4th who was going to contact him) | 18:12 |
| * rdieter forgets who was tasked with that, hopes not him. | 18:12 | |
| mdomsch | I didn't. | 18:12 |
| jsmith | Any volunteers? | 18:13 |
| * jds2001 was tasked with talking to inode0 who told me that Paul Mellors was it. | 18:13 | |
| * jds2001 assumed that we didn't need to confirm with him, but we sure need to coordinate | 18:13 | |
| * jds2001 will reach out | 18:13 | |
| jsmith | I think it would be good to reach out to Paul, make sure he's still OK with being the wrangler, and coordinate a schedule | 18:14 |
| inode0 | ! | 18:14 |
| rdieter | jds2001: thanks | 18:14 |
| jsmith | inode0: Go ahead! | 18:14 |
| * jsmith would like to open nominations for Board seats on the 25th (more or less) | 18:15 | |
| inode0 | From all appearances and one report Paul is no longer active in Fedora, so I'd suggest just putting out a call for help to the community | 18:15 |
| jds2001 | ouch. | 18:15 |
| jsmith | inode0: OK, that's good to know. | 18:15 |
| * jsmith calls up the community and asks for help | 18:16 | |
| * jds2001 hears this loud voice from the sky asking for help with Fedora elections | 18:16 | |
| jsmith | I'll blog about it, and send something to announce list | 18:17 |
| * jds2001 can put something together, but it might not be timely. I'm at CPOSC this weekend... | 18:17 | |
| inode0 | if someone just sets a schedule we can ask for help with town halls and questionnaires | 18:17 |
| jds2001 | oh, if jsmith can then great :) | 18:17 |
| jsmith | inode0: I have a rough draft of a schedule... would you like to comment on it now? | 18:18 |
| inode0 | armed with specific tasks and deadlines makes it easier to commit | 18:18 |
| jsmith | Step 1) Announce elections (now) | 18:18 |
| jsmith | Step 2) Accept nominations and questions (10/23? 10/25?) | 18:18 |
| inode0 | sure, we normally post a rough draft to f-a-b for comments before setting it in stone | 18:19 |
| rdieter | time passes so quickly, it's shocking how quickly our little fedora is growing up | 18:19 |
| jsmith | Step 3) Close questions and have candidates start answering questions (10/31) | 18:19 |
| jsmith | Step 4) Answers due from candidates (11/4) | 18:20 |
| jsmith | Step 5) Town Hall (11/10 through 11/17) | 18:20 |
| jsmith | Step 5) Vote (11/17-11/23) | 18:20 |
| * jsmith has two step 5s :-( | 18:20 | |
| jsmith | Anyhoo, that's the rough schedule | 18:21 |
| jsmith | I'll post it to advisory-board | 18:21 |
| jsmith | but if people want to make comments now, that's fine as well | 18:21 |
| inode0 | ok, looking at it on a calendar helps me | 18:21 |
| jsmith | Note that this is an even-numbered release, so we have two elected board seats up for grabs | 18:21 |
| inode0 | and half of fesco and all of famsco - so it is a big election | 18:22 |
| jsmith | inode0: Yeah, it is. | 18:25 |
| jsmith | Welcome spot_ ... | 18:26 |
| jds2001 | welcome mizmo | 18:27 |
| inode0 | given past turnout at town halls I do think we should consider possibly trying to only schedule one per election, maybe for 90 minutes instead of two | 18:27 |
| jds2001 | how do we do that in a world-friendly manner? | 18:28 |
| ctyler | l o n g m i n u t e s | 18:28 |
| inode0 | you do it in a way the people running can attend | 18:28 |
| ctyler | and the rest can read the transcript | 18:29 |
| * jds2001 still thinks that may be difficult - sya you have someone from the west coast and india running | 18:30 | |
| * jsmith prefers two meetings at different times, but is willing to defer to the person running the town hall meetings | 18:30 | |
| inode0 | it is difficult, I've done it and know it is difficult | 18:30 |
| inode0 | doing it at two different times is about 4 times as difficult as doing it once | 18:31 |
| jsmith | Yes, it is. | 18:31 |
| jsmith | OK, makes sense... I just want to try to be as inclusive as possible | 18:31 |
| jsmith | The entire world doesn't run on Eastern Daylight Time (or anything close to that) | 18:31 |
| inode0 | and often one or two candidates aren't available for both | 18:31 |
| inode0 | and that isn't really fair to them | 18:31 |
| jsmith | Yeah... that's true as well. | 18:32 |
| inode0 | sure, whoever does it can decide - I'm just offering my impression of the town halls over the past couple of years | 18:32 |
| inode0 | it is a lot of work for both organizers and candidates - 20 people show up and most of those same people show up at both | 18:33 |
| jsmith | We certainly appreciate your insight... I've never done it before, so I'm obviously less informed about how things have worked in the past | 18:33 |
| jsmith | I've shown up to a couple of Town Halls as an observer, that's all | 18:34 |
| inode0 | if it helps to know, we almost never have any trouble at all getting volunteers to moderate town halls | 18:36 |
| inode0 | that is pretty easy to do | 18:36 |
| inode0 | getting someone to handle the questionnaire bit is harder | 18:36 |
| inode0 | well, and scheduling the town halls is hard too - running them is easy | 18:39 |
| jds2001 | well, i think scheduling needs to be done after the candidates are known | 18:40 |
| jds2001 | that way time zones of the candidates can be taken into account | 18:41 |
| * ctyler is loving whenisgood.net with TZs turned on | 18:41 | |
| inode0 | correct, scheduling has to wait for candidates | 18:41 |
| inode0 | whenisgood always gets loud complaints too fwiw | 18:42 |
| inode0 | which isn't much until someone finds something better :) | 18:42 |
| jds2001 | do these same people own PS3's? | 18:42 |
| * inode0 does not know | 18:43 | |
| * jds2001 just finds it slightly hypocritical is all :) | 18:43 | |
| * inode0 seems to recall most of those coming from fesco :) | 18:45 | |
| * jds2001 doesn't recall complaining during his tenure in fesco :) | 18:46 | |
| jds2001 | anyhow, that's neither here nor there | 18:47 |
| jsmith | OK folks... twelve minutes until the top of the hour | 18:48 |
| jsmith | Any questions/comments on other topics? | 18:48 |
| * nirik has issues with the interface, but that has nothing to do with it being free/nonfree. ;) | 18:48 | |
| jds2001 | bacon is good. | 18:49 |
| * jsmith likes bacon, but understands that others have a religious/cultural dislike for it | 18:49 | |
| inode0 | I'm happy to help whoever volunteers to get their bearings | 18:49 |
| jds2001 | cool, thanks inode0! | 18:50 |
| jsmith | Awesome... thanks inode0 | 18:50 |
| jsmith | If there aren't any other questions, I move that we end the meeting a few minutes early | 18:54 |
| jsmith | #topic Last call for questions... | 18:54 |
| jsmith | Going once... | 18:55 |
| jsmith | Going twice... | 18:56 |
| jsmith | Sold to the fat-headed extra-terrestrial on the third row with the bright purple jacket and the glowing eyes! | 18:56 |
| jsmith | Thanks everyone! | 18:57 |
| jsmith | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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