Board Meeting

December 06 2010

Roll Call

Present

Tom Callaway
Jared Smith
Jon Stanley
Rex Dieter
Jaroslav Reznik
Stephen Smoogen
Mo Duffy

Absent

Christopher Aillon

Regards

Joerg Simon (weather in Germany)
Toshio Kuratomi (dentist)

Assigned meeting secretary: Christopher Aillon
Actual meeting secretary: Tom Callaway

Agenda

Updates Board business

Updates

New Board Members
- Welcome to Jaroslav!
- Joerg Simon absent today due to weather in Germany
- Toshio Kuratomi absent today due to dentist appointment
Updated meeting schedule at
- Cancel meeting that overlaps with FUDCon?
  - No, lets actually have it with a dial-in for folks not present
  - Also add item to FUDCon schedule
  - should setup public dial-in (maybe Fedora Talk???)
  - will be a public meeting
  - make sure meeting agenda doesn't have issues on it that we can't speak publicly about

Board Business

Advisory Board discussions
- Spins SIG
- I'd like to concentrate on discussing the SIG and spin governance

- Target Audience

Definition from 2009:

We found four defining characteristics that we believe best describe the Fedora distribution's target audience: Someone who (1) is voluntarily switching to Linux, (2) is familiar with computers, but is not necessarily a hacker or developer, (3) is likely to collaborate in some fashion when something's wrong with Fedora, and (4) wants to use Fedora for general productivity, either using desktop applications or a Web browser.

- - (spot) We have defined one! Maybe we have done a poor job of sharing it.
  - (mo) Definitely lack of information
  - (Jon) Communication problems to blame?
  - (mo) Yes. Also, many people disliked it, and then promptly ignored it. Have not done much to actually use it, besides website.
  - (Jon) who will be responsible. willing to help, but cannot carry entire burden. needs to be merged from rel-eng
  - (spot) can hear rel-eng screaming from here
  - (Mo) this is inline with bruno's idea
  - (spot) What do people want?
  - (Jon) what about design spin?
  - (Mo) barely used, discovered it didn't have network stack.
  - (Jared) is there difference between spin and packageset?
  - (Jared) This is obvious from the Robitics SIG -- they don't know whether they want a spin or a package group or both -- and they're asking us to tell them
  - (Spot) Should we ask the Spins what it is they really want? (custom art, livecd, listed on website, package group in Anaconda)
  - (Jon) will reach out to current spin owners to get answers to that question
  - (Mo) year-old list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign/Mockups/Spins.fpo#Spins_Content
  - (spot) may be possible to figure out owners by looking at commit history for kickstarts
  - (spot) Two questions regarding "default" spin? Do we want to have a default? Assuming we do, do we want that default to be the Gnome desktop?
  - (jsmith) We discussed a "Fedora Sampler" DVD on Friday. Should that be the "default" for media handed out at events?
  - (jsmith) Previous boards have already made that decision
  - (Jon) is there anyone who thinks GNOME should not be default
  - The board continues to stand behind GNOME as the default desktop experience.
  - (Mo) there may be better ways to accomplish what Spin SIGs want without actually using "spins"
  - (Mo & Jon) there are specific use-cases for live-images (see list here: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/about under "Why use a spin?")

LIST OF SPINS AND OWNERS:

KDE (Rex, Jaroslav)
LXDE (Christoph?)
XFCE (Kevin F and Christoph Wickert)
Fedora Electronics Lab
Design Spin (Pierros)
Mobility Spin (Peter Robinson)
BROffice (going away w/ LibreOffice)
Games (Bruno Wolff)
Education (Sebastian)
Security (Joerg Simon)

Any other business?
- Thanksgiving homework (3 goals from vision statement)
  - Much of this was discussed Meeting:Board_meeting_2010-11-29
  - Revisit items for vote at future meeting, and give new Board members a chance to make suggestions

Other notes

Next meeting: December 13th

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