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-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Welcome to the Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings | 11:01 | |
Sparks | Roll Call! | 11:01 |
* Sparks is here | 11:01 | |
* stickster is here | 11:01 | |
* ke4qqq is here | 11:01 | |
kirkz | is here | 11:01 |
* jjmcd too | 11:01 | |
* Sparks waits a few more minutes to allow the rest of the chickens a chance to migrate over | 11:02 | |
ke4qqq | s/migrate over/cross the road | 11:02 |
Sparks | :) | 11:02 |
Sparks | Do chickens migrate? | 11:02 |
Sparks | Would chickens migrate? | 11:02 |
jjmcd | You'll never know, they keep the couped up | 11:02 |
* stickster facepalm | 11:03 | |
* jjmcd has been grokking PIC code today, is a little weird | 11:03 | |
-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Docs Project - Documentation Schedule - http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-docs-tasks.html | 11:04 | |
Sparks | Okay... moving right along. | 11:04 |
Sparks | So I think quaid has been pinging on everyone about this schedule. | 11:04 |
Sparks | Does anyone have any problems or questions about it? | 11:04 |
* Sparks hears crickets | 11:05 | |
stickster | none here | 11:05 |
* stickster caret stuck on other window | 11:05 | |
ke4qqq | none here either | 11:05 |
Sparks | Okay. Just making sure... :) | 11:05 |
-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Docs Project - CMS Update | 11:05 | |
Sparks | Zikula has been in the test mode for about two weeks. ke4qqq and itbegins have been working out the kinks. Any updates? | 11:05 |
ke4qqq | I've been hacking on packaging and did a bit this weekend - and thanks to herlo have a much cleaner package - I've passed a few questions up to the packaging gods to see if things are allowed.... | 11:06 |
ke4qqq | we still have 8-10 modules that will need to be packaged as well | 11:06 |
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stickster | ke4qqq: Is there a test site viewable at this time, or is that yet to come? | 11:06 |
ke4qqq | and I also have the conf file that we'll need to get squared away. | 11:07 |
ke4qqq | pt15 has a test site up and fedora.zikula.org as a test site the Simon setup as well | 11:07 |
ke4qqq | still some work to do with websites for look and feel I believe | 11:07 |
* stickster sorry to be behind on this | 11:08 | |
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* ke4qqq hasn't had the time to devote to it that I want or it'd likely already be in review | 11:08 | |
Sparks | ke4qqq: Do we have an estimation on when everything being completed? | 11:08 |
* stickster notes fedora.zikula.org is about 90% fedora-looking, fwiw | 11:08 | |
ke4qqq | yes | 11:08 |
ke4qqq | Simon did a nice bit of work in mockup | 11:09 |
ke4qqq | Sparks: honestly no clue - package review will be an issue - esp since we are talking about 10+ packages | 11:09 |
ke4qqq | and while we don't need that completed to get it up and running | 11:09 |
ke4qqq | just getting it done will take a bit of time | 11:10 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: Okay. Keep us informed! | 11:10 |
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stickster | ke4qqq: fyi, http://velohacker.com/?p=3756 | 11:10 |
stickster | jeremy is volunteering to do some package review -- this seems like a good opportunity to grab him! | 11:10 |
ke4qqq | yes - and I have a few other resources who have volunteered to review for docs | 11:10 |
* Sparks wonders if he should switch reviewers/ | 11:10 | |
* stickster wonders if he just started a stampede. "Follow the gourd!" | 11:11 | |
Sparks | Anything else for the CMS? | 11:11 |
ke4qqq | nothing from me | 11:11 |
-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Docs Project - Status on Release Notes | 11:11 | |
Sparks | Okay... Those lovely Release Notes... | 11:11 |
Sparks | Where are we? | 11:11 |
* quaid is here | 11:11 | |
jjmcd | Next week at this time we should be ready to build update for f10 | 11:12 |
quaid | +10 | 11:12 |
jjmcd | Ryanlerch has made a DocBook version from the wiki for f11 test | 11:12 |
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jjmcd | I have shared some comments both on the mailing list and offline | 11:13 |
Sparks | jjmcd: Are you available on Fedora Talk? | 11:13 |
jjmcd | I am encouraged that mass rebuild as a result of gcc didn't seem to cause mass upheval | 11:14 |
jjmcd | Sparks I think I can be in a minute | 11:14 |
Sparks | jjmcd: I'd like to get you and ryanlerch and quaid and anyone else that wants to in a conference room later this week/weekend we we can make that happen. | 11:14 |
jjmcd | Untested, but I can hear, not so sure about be heard! | 11:14 |
jjmcd | "that" being? | 11:15 |
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Sparks | Oh... | 11:15 |
* stickster glad to see he's not the only one who abuses pronouns. | 11:15 | |
Sparks | "that" being a conference call on F-Talk. (I'm loosing my mind today) | 11:15 |
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quaid | Sparks: I can do that somehow | 11:16 |
jjmcd | Prolly not such a bad plan | 11:16 |
ke4qqq | you mean you are coming unscrewed? | 11:16 |
quaid | yep, it's all loose | 11:16 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: There's a Navy term for that of which I'm pretty sure I can't use here | 11:16 |
ke4qqq | lol | 11:17 |
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Sparks | Okay, so forward motion on the Release Notes... excellent | 11:17 |
quaid | ok, yeah, I'll take another shot at trying to help the relnotes miss the known bumps. | 11:17 |
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* Sparks loves it when quaid puts himself in the crosshairs | 11:17 | |
* quaid is beginning to lose his confidence around ability to write simple, clear instructions | 11:17 | |
Sparks | Anything else? | 11:17 |
jjmcd | I think we may need to work harder to recruit beat writers | 11:18 |
jjmcd | I had some thoughts but haven't acted on them yet | 11:18 |
quaid | +1 | 11:18 |
jjmcd | Prolly need to chat w/Ryan | 11:18 |
quaid | that's always been the biggest trouble imo | 11:18 |
ke4qqq | has there been any recruitment via p.fp.o? | 11:18 |
Sparks | jjmcd: Feel free to share your thoughts | 11:18 |
Sparks | jjmcd: either here or on the list. | 11:18 |
quaid | jjmcd: alt. you all could just do stuff and try to pump up the volume. | 11:18 |
ke4qqq | there was last release but I don't recall seeing any | 11:18 |
quaid | a lot of noise v. none isn't going to be a problem, is it? | 11:19 |
jjmcd | I think we do need to push up the volume a bit | 11:19 |
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* quaid reaches for "11" | 11:19 | |
quaid | see, it's one higher than "10" | 11:19 |
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ke4qqq | how appropriate | 11:19 |
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ke4qqq | ahh spinal tap :) | 11:19 |
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Sparks | jjmcd: Well, if you want to write something up please do. We definitely need more people. | 11:21 |
Sparks | Anything else before we move on? | 11:21 |
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jjmcd | Yeah, I'm heading into report time | 11:21 |
jjmcd | But need to get on that | 11:21 |
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* jjmcd goes heads-down on paperwork ~10-15th of the month | 11:21 | |
Sparks | jjmcd: Understood | 11:22 |
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Sparks | Any update on the Installation Guide? | 11:22 |
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Sparks | I don't remember who has that project. | 11:22 |
* ke4qqq has it | 11:22 | |
* quaid whistles | 11:22 | |
quaid | yeah, him! | 11:22 |
Sparks | :) | 11:22 |
ke4qqq | Rudi volunteered to help, lcafiero is my editor, and herlo is going to write the missing network auth section | 11:22 |
ke4qqq | I'd still like more help, but am far better off than last week at this time | 11:23 |
* danielsmw_ sneaks in quietly and takes a seat. | 11:23 | |
ke4qqq | wow that sounded odd | 11:23 |
ke4qqq | far better off that this time last week | 11:23 |
* ke4qqq gives up at typing | 11:23 | |
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ke4qqq | I've also run through a couple of installs to notice changes in anaconda | 11:23 |
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ke4qqq | but that's about it at the moment | 11:24 |
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Sparks | ke4qqq: Okay. Good deal. | 11:24 |
Sparks | Anyone have any questions? | 11:24 |
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quaid | ke4qqq: I'm another hand, pointable at whatever is left on the floor. | 11:24 |
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ke4qqq | quaid: I am trying to disavow knowledge of that at this point | 11:25 |
ke4qqq | as you'll likely have your hands full | 11:25 |
ke4qqq | if I get desperate I'll call for help, but I am hoping to pull new bodies to do this. | 11:25 |
-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Docs Project - Status on Security Guide | 11:26 | |
Sparks | Well, this is my project... The Brisbane team (mainly Scott) has been working on validating the documentation. I'm still waiting on a few things to be fixed in Publican before I can get the package approved but a PDF is being generated and the docs.fp.o/securityguide is being updated regularly. | 11:26 |
Sparks | Any questions? | 11:26 |
quaid | ke4qqq: actually, to be fair, you all are doing such a great job of covering all the angles. | 11:26 |
quaid | that I found myself unexpectedly light in what I thought I was going to be doing for Docs for this release | 11:26 |
quaid | so I'm keeping it *all* in reserve for emergencies and pick ups :) | 11:27 |
ke4qqq | quaid: you ought not jinx us or yourself like that :) | 11:27 |
jjmcd | Well, you gotta stay loose to watch Lance | 11:27 |
ke4qqq | Sparks: what's the package blocking on? | 11:27 |
quaid | <== lighting rod | 11:27 |
quaid | I can take the shock :) | 11:27 |
Sparks | quaid: Now go outside... spin around three times and spit! | 11:27 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: Good golly it is a list! | 11:27 |
quaid | Sparks: widdershins? | 11:27 |
ke4qqq | bz ticket #? | 11:28 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: Apparently Publican matches perfectly for RH packaging standards but not so much with Fedora packaging standards. | 11:28 |
quaid | done | 11:28 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: which is amazing because they are supposed to be the same. | 11:28 |
ke4qqq | :) | 11:28 |
Sparks | .bug 476471 | 11:28 |
buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=476471 medium, low, ---, petersen@redhat.com, ASSIGNED, Review Request: fedora-security-guide - A security guide for Linux | 11:28 |
zodbot | Sparks: Bug 476471 Review Request: fedora-security-guide - A security guide for Linux - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476471 | 11:28 |
buggbot | Bug 476471: medium, low, ---, petersen@redhat.com, ASSIGNED, Review Request: fedora-security-guide - A security guide for Linux | 11:28 |
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Sparks | Well, that was interesting | 11:29 |
quaid | heh | 11:29 |
quaid | close | 11:29 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: So I'm waiting on another version of Publican right now. | 11:29 |
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ke4qqq | k | 11:29 |
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Sparks | My problems, however, are problems that will affect EVERYONE in Fedora that plan on using Publican for Documentation that will be generating SRPMs | 11:30 |
Sparks | So I'm trying to identify the problems and have them fixed so Publican will be useable without any slight of hand or trickery. | 11:31 |
itbegins | Sorry, I'm here now - got called out just as meeting started. fwiw I have nothing to add on the CMS front. | 11:31 |
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quaid | +1*10^27 | 11:31 |
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ke4qqq | cool | 11:31 |
ke4qqq | yeah what quaid said | 11:31 |
quaid | so Publican lead developer said he'd take patches, Perl I presume. | 11:31 |
quaid | otherwise I doubt we'll see this soon enough; I reckon it's not priority to the Publican community that is !Fedora Project | 11:32 |
Sparks | quaid: He said he'd take them but didn't say what he'd do with them. | 11:32 |
quaid | Sparks: well, he may argue about implementation details, but unless he's being intentionall disingenuous ... | 11:32 |
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quaid | one thing that bothers me so far ... | 11:33 |
quaid | spot: are you around? | 11:33 |
quaid | I'd like a definitive from spot or tburke that (Fedora packaging standards) == (Red Hat packaging standards) | 11:33 |
quaid | or an explanation of the difference and exceptions. | 11:33 |
Sparks | +1 | 11:34 |
quaid | that's more from a general community member perspective, not really a Docs thing. | 11:34 |
quaid | I grok that there are exceptions, maybe many hundreds, but they shouldn't make the rule or define how tools should behave. | 11:34 |
quaid | at least, if what we see from the entire QE and RelEng departments are any indication, the two are equivalent. | 11:35 |
quaid | </soapbox> | 11:35 |
Sparks | quaid: Well, can you take the tasker to find out what the difference is between RH and F? | 11:35 |
quaid | Sparks: aye | 11:36 |
Sparks | quaid: TU | 11:36 |
Sparks | Anything else? | 11:36 |
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Sparks | Okay. This is mdious's project. He isn't awake at this time but I know he's made a lot of progress on this. | 11:37 |
Sparks | I'll see if I can get more information from him later this week. | 11:37 |
Sparks | Any questions about this one? | 11:37 |
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quaid | is he doing an FN version or does he need it versionless, cf. SEc Guide? | 11:38 |
quaid | in terms of the packaging name :) | 11:38 |
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Sparks | quaid: I don't know. I'm pretty sure he'll be in my boat. | 11:38 |
quaid | yeah, I'm unclear there. | 11:38 |
quaid | but otherwise it looks freaking great. | 11:38 |
Sparks | the packaging name issue will be there until Publican is rewritten. | 11:38 |
Sparks | Okay... Moving on... | 11:39 |
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Sparks | This is Matthew's (danielsmw) project and since he usually doesn't get into the meetings until late he sent an email to the list. Did everyone read it? | 11:39 |
Sparks | danielsmw: You here? | 11:39 |
danielsmw_ | He got here this time though. =) | 11:39 |
danielsmw_ | Yeah, I'm here. | 11:39 |
danielsmw_ | But everyone should have seen my email. | 11:39 |
danielsmw_ | quaid: still planning on doing that at SCaLE? | 11:39 |
quaid | danielsmw_: darn tootin' | 11:40 |
quaid | it's in the press release | 11:40 |
quaid | can't back down now | 11:40 |
danielsmw_ | Okay, great | 11:40 |
danielsmw_ | Well | 11:40 |
* quaid goes to read email to catch right up | 11:40 | |
danielsmw_ | A question that I put in the email that I've been thinking about | 11:40 |
Sparks | danielsmw_: I think I responded to your message with direction on KDE stuff. | 11:40 |
danielsmw_ | is editing directly in XML vs the wiki | 11:40 |
danielsmw_ | Sparks: thanks, let me check it... | 11:41 |
danielsmw_ | Ah, good idea | 11:41 |
danielsmw_ | I'll hop over to fedora-kde later on and try that | 11:41 |
quaid | danielsmw_: ok, I said some stuff on that earlier this week; did you catch that? | 11:41 |
Sparks | danielsmw_: the KDE folks seem very helpful and willing to help push "their" packages | 11:41 |
quaid | on f-docs-l | 11:41 |
danielsmw_ | quaid: Maybe? I usually read the emails but I'm not sure what you mean | 11:42 |
quaid | in summary, there is an argument that the U_G is a perfect newbie training tool; edit in wiki then help with conversion. | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | ah, right | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | yes | 11:42 |
quaid | v. any other more complex one. | 11:42 |
quaid | however | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | Yeah, and I agree with that | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | So | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | What I would ideally like to see | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | Is some hypothetical process where | 11:42 |
quaid | the other argument is that the wiki is growing as a small-article tool, so we could have people just make the leap, if you feel you can sustain the team. | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | We... made editing XML very beginner friendly? I'm not sure. | 11:42 |
danielsmw_ | quaid: expand on that? | 11:43 |
quaid | IMO, the stuff that 'mw-render' pulls from a properly cleaned wiki page | 11:43 |
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quaid | is great learner stuff | 11:43 |
quaid | you learn how to fit it in to Publican and start editing | 11:43 |
quaid | but I'm such a non-beginner I might be missing the complexity :) | 11:43 |
danielsmw_ | Heh | 11:43 |
quaid | danielsmw_: to expand quickly: | 11:43 |
ke4qqq | it's not 'beginner friendly' - but it's not hard - a few hours and you'll have the basics but the letters X-M-L scare people into thinking it must be akin to writing assembly | 11:43 |
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jjmcd | Even if it is very beginner friendly, a wiki seems to be less intimidating | 11:44 |
quaid | if there is enough work on the wiki to keep newbies happy there, then they can just leap to XML when ready; i.e., we don't need a full guide that carries training wheels forever | 11:44 |
danielsmw_ | quaid: okay, I get what you're saying | 11:44 |
quaid | my gut says we're not there yet, make that an F12 goal perhaps. | 11:44 |
danielsmw_ | Yeah | 11:44 |
danielsmw_ | Either way, that's not my biggest concern right now. | 11:44 |
danielsmw_ | I just want to: | 11:45 |
danielsmw_ | 1. Catch up to the release cycle, and | 11:45 |
danielsmw_ | 2. work on the user friendliness aspects that eawest and I had talked about and started a bit | 11:45 |
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danielsmw_ | So, unless anyone has any questions.... that's about it, I think. | 11:46 |
danielsmw_ | The only writers I really have right now are myself, eawest when she's around, | 11:46 |
danielsmw_ | and it looks like I may be pulling in kirk, who just joined the list. | 11:46 |
quaid | danielsmw_: can we set a priority for chapters or work before the FAD? | 11:46 |
quaid | that is ... | 11:47 |
kirkz | danielsmw: happy to do what I can | 11:47 |
Sparks | danielsmw_: Can you make sure kirk knows where all the resources and such are, please? | 11:47 |
quaid | either set a priority to chapters, or to content (all GNOME first, etc.), or to the rewrite bits | 11:47 |
danielsmw_ | Sparks: I didn't realize it, but he's right there. | 11:47 |
Sparks | danielsmw_: There ya go! | 11:47 |
danielsmw_ | kirkz: any questions? | 11:47 |
quaid | and a plan ... are we going to tackle chapters one at a time and do the full work on it, or split up and specialize. | 11:47 |
danielsmw_ | quaid: Yes, we can do that | 11:47 |
quaid | i.e., I work on restyling, others work on fact checking updates, etc. | 11:47 |
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kirkz | Not smart enough to ask yet :0 | 11:47 |
* quaid thinks specialize might work best, but we can also experiment | 11:48 | |
danielsmw_ | I'll set priorities this weekend, and then you and I can work on a process | 11:48 |
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quaid | kirkz: just keep asking questions in #fedora-docs :) | 11:48 |
* danielsmw is glad to be rid of that pesky underscore | 11:48 | |
kirkz | quaid: will do | 11:48 |
quaid | kirkz: for what it's worth, our join process still sucks a bit, so don't overly blame yourself :) | 11:48 |
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Sparks | Okay, we only have about ten minutes left and I have two more topics to discuss. Does anyone have anything else about the User Guide? | 11:49 |
kirkz | k | 11:49 |
* quaid done | 11:49 | |
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Sparks | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FDSCo_meeting_matrix | 11:49 |
Sparks | If you haven't already posted your availabilities up on the meeting matrix please do so before next Wednesday. I want to get this fixed by then so we can start incorporating more of our team into our meetings. | 11:49 |
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* Sparks thinks we should also rename everything as we don't really have a FDSCo but rather a Docs Team. | 11:50 | |
* jjmcd notes that last he looked there weren't any good times, just less sucky than other times | 11:50 | |
* danielsmw agrees | 11:50 | |
* danielsmw with sparks. | 11:50 | |
Sparks | jjmcd: danielsmw I think it is ALWAYS going to be that way. | 11:50 |
jjmcd | yep | 11:50 |
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Sparks | Well, we can compile all the data and see where it points us. | 11:51 |
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jjmcd | You would think the IRC gods would gift us with a perfect time | 11:51 |
Sparks | besides quaid, who else is PST? | 11:51 |
quaid | not many | 11:51 |
* Sparks is worried about "drive time" PST | 11:51 | |
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quaid | apparently no one loves Fedora in Cali | 11:51 |
Sparks | quaid: You do | 11:52 |
jjmcd | Well, CA is weird | 11:52 |
quaid | not many | 11:52 |
Sparks | Okay... Anything else before I bring up quaid's topic? | 11:52 |
ke4qqq | quaid doesn't have to worry about 'drive time' does he? | 11:52 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: I don't think so | 11:52 |
* ke4qqq thought he worked from home and had a never-visited office in mtn view | 11:52 | |
quaid | RHT has an office but I don't have a desk in MTV | 11:53 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: Which is why I worried about everyone other than quaid | 11:53 |
ke4qqq | ahhh ok | 11:53 |
quaid | yeah, drive time doesn't bug me, unless it's also dinner time | 11:53 |
Sparks | ke4qqq: He's always here! | 11:53 |
* quaid will fill out his stuff | 11:53 | |
Sparks | Anything else? | 11:53 |
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-!- Sparks changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Docs Project - DocsProject wiki page changes | 11:54 | |
Sparks | I think this is quaid's since I saw the message go up on f-wiki-l... | 11:54 |
Sparks | quaid: So you finally went and did it. | 11:54 |
quaid | ah, yeah | 11:54 |
quaid | Sparks: did what? | 11:54 |
Sparks | quaid: Put it all down on... ummm... paper | 11:55 |
quaid | heh | 11:55 |
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Sparks | quaid: I've been trying to control myself from doing it by hand but it seems we may have to. | 11:55 |
quaid | yeah, we're stuck on the renaming and categories | 11:55 |
quaid | or rip and replce | 11:55 |
quaid | to get our process's cleaned up | 11:55 |
quaid | I'm also tired of people (/me mumbles no names) who are pointing at crufty process content | 11:55 |
quaid | as canonical, which is our fault for leaving it there and not updating. | 11:56 |
quaid | but I cannot see how to do this right without a cleanup/rename or rip/replace. | 11:56 |
quaid | why you ask? | 11:56 |
ke4qqq | on that note has ian/G provided an update on wikibot recently? and has there been any documentation of how to handle categories in the wikirename psvs? | 11:56 |
quaid | because when we get every real process page in ... | 11:56 |
quaid | we are going to easily see duplicates and holes. | 11:56 |
quaid | ke4qqq: ian and I have been poking G, yeah, and last request to get the code in to the f'hosted/fedora-wiki project git | 11:57 |
Sparks | quaid: Okay, if ianweller can't get the bot cranked up by Friday evening let's get a process started at identifying and renaming all the pages and get them in the proper cats | 11:57 |
quaid | the .psv helps a lot there | 11:57 |
quaid | we can use it as a guide in renaming, etc. | 11:58 |
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Sparks | quaid: Well we might need to put it on the wiki and assign people sections. | 11:58 |
quaid | the hassle is how many pages there are and linking in going through 120 new redirect pages | 11:58 |
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Sparks | quaid: no doubt it will be some work but we have to do it if we are going to be the shining example that we want to be. | 11:59 |
quaid | word! | 11:59 |
Sparks | Okay... with seconds left in the hour... anyone have anything else? | 11:59 |
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Sparks | Thanks everyone for coming! | 11:59 |
Sparks | </meeting> | 12:00 |
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