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| Sparks | #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings | 00:00 |
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| zodbot | Meeting started Thu Oct 29 00:00:59 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 00:00 |
| quaid | oi | 00:00 |
| Sparks | #topic Roll Call | 00:01 |
| * Sparks | 00:01 | |
| * rudi is here | 00:01 | |
| * Sparks wonders if zodbot was asleep | 00:01 | |
| * marwalk . | 00:01 | |
| * jjmcd is here | 00:01 | |
| * danielsmw is making ramen but will be back in 2:15 | 00:02 | |
| Sparks | #chair jjmcd | 00:03 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Sparks jjmcd | 00:03 |
| * jjmcd wonders whether that is like alternate NCS | 00:03 | |
| Sparks | jjmcd: Yes | 00:03 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: I know what happened last week. | 00:03 |
| jjmcd | Bah ... I guess I'll have to pay attention | 00:04 |
| Sparks | quaid: nice of you to join us tonight! | 00:04 |
| Sparks | Okay, on with the show! | 00:05 |
| Sparks | #topic Release Announcement | 00:05 |
| Sparks | Last week we decided that the Release Announcement needed to be complete no later than 10 Nov. | 00:05 |
| Sparks | I think there is already work being done on it. | 00:06 |
| Sparks | Would anyone like to step up and take on this project? | 00:06 |
| Sparks | This would be a quick project that would be good for a new or experienced member. | 00:07 |
| * jjmcd will be putting together the rpm around that time | 00:07 | |
| Sparks | jjmcd: You're excused this time | 00:08 |
| Sparks | Well, I'll put out another plea later. | 00:08 |
| Sparks | #topic Release Notes | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | Isn't this one supposed to be mostly marketing? | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | OK, RNs | 00:09 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: How are things going? | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | Thanks to rudi, the GA POs went to L10N behind the original schedule but ahead of the current schedule | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | Also, I marked all the beats so folks don't sneak things in there | 00:10 |
| jjmcd | There were more changes than I would have liked, but it shouldn't be too bad for L10N | 00:10 |
| jjmcd | We had 4 or 5 bugs around mems size so I put in some weasel words that nobody will like | 00:11 |
| Sparks | Cool | 00:11 |
| rudi | Around 10% change | 00:11 |
| Sparks | Are we still on track for being on time? | 00:11 |
| jjmcd | yep, just waiting for L10N now | 00:11 |
| Sparks | Cool | 00:12 |
| Sparks | Did you get ownership/co-ownership of the RPM? | 00:12 |
| jjmcd | Nope, still waiting on reviews of maiden rpm | 00:12 |
| jjmcd | I'll email adam who volunteered to help off channel | 00:12 |
| Sparks | Hmmm... I don't like that you are waiting on the review of the rpm | 00:13 |
| Sparks | Do you have the attention of someone that is going to review it? | 00:13 |
| jjmcd | Not THE rpm, and rpm to get to be a packager | 00:13 |
| Sparks | Ahhh | 00:13 |
| Sparks | Okay | 00:13 |
| jjmcd | There are a handful of folks who have provided input, but idle a week so I'll ask Adam what to do next | 00:14 |
| quaid | +1 weasel words | 00:14 |
| jjmcd | Colin Powell always said you gotta piss somebody off sometimes | 00:14 |
| Sparks | I follow that rule way too often | 00:15 |
| jjmcd | rudi helped a bunch on some stuff i had forgotten how to do | 00:15 |
| jjmcd | that's a plus and a minus, plus I didn't spend a lot of time on it, minus i wasn't forced to remember how to do it | 00:15 |
| rudi | jjmcd -- you mean the git stuff? | 00:16 |
| jjmcd | No, the re-merging the po | 00:16 |
| rudi | Ah yeah. Hopefully noone will need to remember that soon :P | 00:16 |
| jjmcd | Well, I owulda screwed up the branch, too | 00:16 |
| rudi | Someone once called that stuff "stupid knowledge" -- the knowledge of workarounds and kludges :) | 00:17 |
| jjmcd | good assessment | 00:17 |
| rudi | But the upside is that I think we're getting better at working with L10N | 00:17 |
| jjmcd | Yeah, I think so | 00:17 |
| rudi | And in the F12-F13 lull, I'd like to document that | 00:18 |
| jjmcd | We still have some work to do tho | 00:18 |
| rudi | Indeed | 00:18 |
| Sparks | Okay, so do you need anything for the RNs? | 00:18 |
| jjmcd | no, i think we're good for now | 00:18 |
| Sparks | Okay. Moving on | 00:19 |
| Sparks | #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) | 00:19 |
| Sparks | #link Zikula#Module_status | 00:19 |
| * Sparks just remembers he needs to update his package on the wiki | 00:19 | |
| Sparks | Okay, that's done. | 00:20 |
| Sparks | My accessory packages, polls and advanced polls, have been pushed to stable so all that should be ready to go | 00:20 |
| Sparks | Does anyone have any updates? | 00:21 |
| Sparks | We'll need to jump on this project as soon as F12 is out the door. I'd like to have this up and running by the end of the year for docs.fp.o. | 00:22 |
| Sparks | Of course that is an arbitrary date but one that will give us something to work toward. | 00:23 |
| Sparks | Anyone have anything? | 00:23 |
| Sparks | Okay, moving on | 00:24 |
| Sparks | #topic Status on CC license rollout. | 00:24 |
| Sparks | #link License_changeover_schedule | 00:24 |
| Sparks | I completed #7 earlier today based on a conversation I had with rudi last week and my regeneration of the SG over the weekend. | 00:25 |
| jjmcd | So now we just review against our checklist? | 00:25 |
| Sparks | I'm having problems regenerating the non-English versions of the SG, however, so I'll need some help with that but I think everything is squared away. | 00:26 |
| Sparks | checklist? | 00:26 |
| jjmcd | Well, step 8 | 00:26 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: yes | 00:26 |
| Sparks | quaid: Did you get step 6 completed? | 00:26 |
| Sparks | I spoke with ianweller earlier and he said: the status of the license change is that it's half done in the staging branch and that i can't get to it today but i can maybe get to it tomorrow | 00:28 |
| Sparks | So that should knock out step 5 | 00:28 |
| Sparks | Okay, maybe quaid will be back with us later | 00:29 |
| Sparks | Anything else? | 00:30 |
| Sparks | Okay, moving on | 00:31 |
| Sparks | #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets | 00:31 |
| jjmcd | I think I got all the F12 RN tickets this week | 00:32 |
| Sparks | I haven't checked them today but if everyone will go through the tickets and make sure everything is assigned and if you have any tickets assigned please make sure the notes are up to date | 00:32 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: +1 | 00:32 |
| jjmcd | The note I put on each beat asks folks to submit a ticket for zero day changes | 00:33 |
| Sparks | cool | 00:33 |
| Sparks | Okay, anything else? | 00:33 |
| Sparks | #topic Guide needs? | 00:34 |
| Sparks | Anyone have any guides that need anything? | 00:34 |
| jjmcd | Looks like we might get some help on the ARG, we'll see | 00:35 |
| rudi | Not a need -- but a heads-up that the new F12 Deployment Guide is now on d.fp.o and Transifex... | 00:35 |
| jjmcd | goodness | 00:35 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: ARG? | 00:35 |
| Sparks | Oh | 00:35 |
| jjmcd | :-) | 00:35 |
| Sparks | rudi: Awesome | 00:35 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: I'm having git issues tonight... :( | 00:35 |
| jjmcd | Well it ain't near as frustrating as CVS | 00:36 |
| rudi | That's perspectival's awesomeness to thank | 00:36 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: CVS and SVN worked... I can't get anything OUT of git | 00:36 |
| Sparks | perspectival++ | 00:36 |
| jjmcd | Well see, less work that way | 00:37 |
| Sparks | ya | 00:37 |
| Sparks | I haven't looked at the accessibility guide lately... that needs to be touched at some point | 00:38 |
| Sparks | Anything else? | 00:39 |
| Sparks | #topic New Guides | 00:40 |
| Sparks | Any new guides? | 00:40 |
| rudi | Ah -- I see I jumped the gun. Sorry! | 00:40 |
| Sparks | rudi: No worries | 00:41 |
| jjmcd | Is stickster writing the "Guide to bars in Toronto"? | 00:41 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: Is that a new guide? Publican or wiki? | 00:41 |
| jjmcd | Well, Paul being an XML sort of guy, I assumed... | 00:41 |
| Sparks | Well, we should encourage that to be put in the repo | 00:42 |
| jjmcd | He did great in Berlin, but he may have had help from Jeroen | 00:42 |
| Sparks | :) | 00:43 |
| Sparks | Okay, any OTHER new guides? | 00:43 |
| Sparks | #topic All other business | 00:44 |
| Sparks | Okay, does anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? | 00:44 |
| marwalk | did you see the F12 beta writeup in Ars Technica? | 00:45 |
| Sparks | anything? anything at all? | 00:45 |
| Sparks | marwalk: I didn't. | 00:46 |
| Sparks | marwalk: url? | 00:46 |
| marwalk | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2009/10/ars-takes-a-first-look-under-the-hood-of-fedora-12.ars | 00:46 |
| Sparks | F11 had rough edges? | 00:47 |
| Sparks | Not as rough as F7, IMO. :) | 00:47 |
| Sparks | marwalk: Thanks for the link! | 00:48 |
| marwalk | indeed :-) | 00:48 |
| Sparks | anyone else? | 00:49 |
| Sparks | Okay, well I'm closing it down! | 00:50 |
| Sparks | Thanks everyone for coming tonight. | 00:50 |
| Sparks | #endmeeting | 00:50 |